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Title: Music without chords
Post by: arkiv on February 08, 2009, 06:42:18 AM
Let´s provide some recommendations of links of world and classical music without chords -set of three or more different notes that sound simultaneously-.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Dax on February 08, 2009, 06:47:15 AM
How much Gregorian chant do you want?
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: arkiv on February 08, 2009, 06:50:19 AM
Quote from: Dax on February 08, 2009, 06:47:15 AM
How much Gregorian chant do you want?
Welcome to gregorian chant, it is very interesting while studying or painting the house...
;)

Jim McGillivray - bagpipe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22obRTqXeTY

"Rock" (Richard Kashanski)
Trent Shuey - timpani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2ObigqMV1U
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: aquablob on February 08, 2009, 08:46:34 AM
Bach 2-part Inventions?
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: sul G on February 08, 2009, 03:51:07 PM
How's about some classical Japanese shakuhachi music? Wonderful and intense stuff.I recommend Katsuya Yokoyama on Ocora.

Quote from: aquariuswb on February 08, 2009, 08:46:34 AM
Bach 2-part Inventions?

'fraid not...   :)

Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: aquablob on February 08, 2009, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: sul G on February 08, 2009, 03:51:07 PM
'fraid not...   :)

Yeah, but you could totally get away with just playing a dyad at the end there... :D

Actually, that F really wants to resolve down to an E.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: bwv 1080 on February 08, 2009, 07:35:18 PM
 There is India

http://www.youtube.com/v/VF-2s2m7KfI
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: arkiv on February 08, 2009, 09:27:51 PM
Ganesh Kumar - kanjira

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPPBoei6oCs

check the speed at 3:14
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: imperfection on February 08, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: epicous on February 08, 2009, 06:42:18 AM
Let´s provide some recommendations of links of world and classical music without chords -set of three or more different notes that sound simultaneously-.

Actually, 2 notes qualify as a chord.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: aquablob on February 09, 2009, 04:54:47 AM
Quote from: imperfection on February 08, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
Actually, 2 notes qualify as a chord.

Depends on one's definition; some (the OP, most relevantly) would not consider a dyad a chord!
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Ten thumbs on February 10, 2009, 05:58:35 AM
If you really want some fun, try Fanny Mendelssohn's Toccata in C min (einstimmig) of 1824. The alternation of right and left hand is quite fiendish.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: sul G on February 10, 2009, 06:51:41 AM
Of course, from the centre of the classical canon there are the famous Chopin examples - last movement of the B flat minor sonata, and the E flat minor Prelude. These are in octaves throughout - I suppose that counts.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: aquablob on February 10, 2009, 07:58:41 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 10, 2009, 06:51:41 AM
Of course, from the centre of the classical canon there are the famous Chopin examples - last movement of the B flat minor sonata, and the E flat minor Prelude. These are in octaves throughout - I suppose that counts.

Yes, and they are wonderful!
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Cato on February 10, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
One of the greatest and most expressive melodies ever composed is not accompanied with chords of any kind:


(http://home.sprintmail.com/~ejb/Taps.gif)



http://www.tapsbugler.com/24NotesExcerpt/Page1.html
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 11:56:51 AM
Cato's example raises a point which (perhaps) someone has already remarked on.  The tune is not accompanied by chords, but it outlines a major triad (chord by implication).

Maybe we want someting more on the lines of my Studies in Impermanence  8)

(That transcription is a bit funky-looking, Cato: apart from all the grace-notage, it looks misoriented on the staff, outlining a D Minor triad . . . which isn't the bugle-call I know . . . .)
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: aquablob on February 10, 2009, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 11:56:51 AM

(That transcription is a bit funky-looking, Cato: apart from all the grace-notage, it looks misoriented on the staff, outlining a D Minor triad . . . which isn't the bugle-call I know . . . .)

For a transposed instrument, perhaps?
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
Quote from: aquariuswb on February 10, 2009, 12:06:40 PM
For a transposed instrument, perhaps?

Well, but without accidentals (the F# in particular) it's still a minor triad, which just isn't right.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: aquariuswb on February 08, 2009, 05:15:20 PM
Yeah, but you could totally get away with just playing a dyad at the end there... :D

Actually, that F really wants to resolve down to an E.

Yes, for (even though the texture is two melodic lines) there are implied harmonies.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Cato on February 10, 2009, 12:47:30 PM
I did not look at the Taps music carefully enough!  Yes, the original according to the website I posted should end on C.


Let's try this!
(http://www.tapsbugler.com/24NotesExcerptphotos/15.-24Notes.jpg)



Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
Much better! Emmet Bondurant's 'arrangement' is Dodgy in the Extreme.
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Cato on February 10, 2009, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
Much better! Emmet Bondurant's 'arrangement' is Dodgy in the Extreme.

Must be a Yale man!   :o

I did wonder quickly about those grace(less) notes, but was in too much of a hurry: tutoring on-line!
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: aquablob on February 10, 2009, 01:03:15 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on February 10, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
Yes, for (even though the texture is two melodic lines) there are implied harmonies.

No doubt; this is not a particularly "inventive" (pun intended) example of such subtleties, but Bach's music is just full of them, isn't it?
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: arkiv on February 10, 2009, 05:56:39 PM
Los Muñequitos de Matanzas, from Cuba, performing a rumba:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGXmu-o-cr8
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Dax on February 15, 2009, 01:44:22 AM
Quote from: Cato on February 10, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
One of the greatest and most expressive melodies ever composed is not accompanied with chords of any kind:
(http://home.sprintmail.com/~ejb/Taps.gif)
http://www.tapsbugler.com/24NotesExcerpt/Page1.html

The pibroch version?
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: karlhenning on February 15, 2009, 08:22:35 AM
Quote from: Dax on February 15, 2009, 01:44:22 AM
The pibroch version?

Had it not been for Jethro Tull, that were the first time I saw the word  8)
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: toledobass on February 15, 2009, 08:38:15 AM
how's 'bout kechak? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HL5P6wlQPU)

Allan
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: Dax on February 15, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
There are drones to be sure, but it's worth checking out Lycergos Angelopoulos (Byzantine Chant)

http://www.fireangel.biz/v-Choir+Byzantion+with+Lycurgos+Angelopoulos+Jaroslaw-8wNcZf6
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: arkiv on February 28, 2009, 06:01:29 PM
Mexican jarocho

http://www.youtube.com/v/2QM7SJhzmPE
Title: Re: Music without chords
Post by: arkiv on March 01, 2009, 06:06:22 AM
Armenian clarinet traditional music

http://www.youtube.com/v/BT1-CfHWZTY