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The Music Room => General Classical Music Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:16:46 AM

Poll
Question: Can Dave teach himself this intrument?
Option 1: Yes, it's easy votes: 4
Option 2: No, you need a teacher. votes: 0
Option 3: The recorder?! votes: 2
Title: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:16:46 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:20:24 AM
When I was about 5 I went along to my school's recorder club, to be told by the teacher that I should go away because I wasn't musical. I have hated the instrument ever since! So I can't vote....
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:21:30 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:20:24 AM
When I was about 5 I went along to my school's recorder club, to be told by the teacher that I should go away because I wasn't musical. I have hated the instrument ever since! So I can't vote....

But I'm not asking whether you like the instrument or not. :)
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:27:07 AM
OK, then you can see my vote now!  ;D 100% of us are shocked at the very notion!

(I'm not serious of course - I hope you know that.)
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:28:25 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:27:07 AM
OK, then you can see my vote now!  ;D 100% of us are shocked at the very notion!

(I'm not serious of course - I hope you know that.)

Well, it has to be better than the harmonica.  ;D
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:38:27 AM
Very true... though both find their way into Ligeti, Kagel et al, so neither can be that bad!

Of course, the recorder is really a fine instrument with a great heritage and a rewarding repertoire; well played it's a thing of beauty. And though it's easy to play to a basic level (hence it's being regarded as some kind of sub-instrument/instrument for children) it's very hard to play well, so I hear. I imagine the breath control/tone control is quite a discipline, something along the lines of learning the ney or shakuhachi, and like them, probably good for body and spirit. So, give it go - why not!
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:45:17 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:38:27 AM
Very true... though both find their way into Ligeti, Kagel et al, so neither can be that bad!

Of course, the recorder is really a fine instrument with a great heritage and a rewarding repertoire; well played it's a thing of beauty. And though it's easy to play to a basic level (hence it's being regarded as some kind of sub-instrument/instrument for children) it's very hard to play well, so I hear. I imagine the breath control/tone control is quite a discipline, something along the lines of learning the ney or shakuhachi, and like them, probably good for body and spirit. So, give it go - why not!

How much do they cost? I mean, for a decent one.
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:46:53 AM
Ah, now you'd have to ask someone who actually knows what they're talking about.... ;)

I have a catalogue somewhere, mind you...
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:49:16 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:46:53 AM
Ah, now you'd have to ask someone who actually knows what they're talking about.... ;)

I have a catalogue somewhere, mind you...

You've done enough for me today. I'll figure it out. :)
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: sul G on February 19, 2009, 05:49:56 AM
Yes, these guys send me their catalogue since I bought a knee harp from them. As you'll see from the front page, their prices vary wildly, but you'll be able to get an idea of the different factors that come into consideration from looking around here, I imagine.

http://www.earlymusicshop.com/
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 05:51:57 AM
They're cheap. Good!
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: sul G on February 19, 2009, 06:06:21 AM
Well, there's the odd very cheap one there, but mostly they cluster around £200-£500. The most expensive I can see is £2000.
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 19, 2009, 06:13:01 AM
Quote from: sul G on February 19, 2009, 06:06:21 AM
Well, there's the odd very cheap one there, but mostly they cluster around £200-£500. The most expensive I can see is £2000.

Maybe I'll do crosswords instead.
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: SonicMan46 on February 20, 2009, 07:21:33 AM
Dave - my wife plays a bunch of instruments, including the recorder; she has been doing so for decades (used to have a recorder group at the Unitarian Fellowship she attends) - probably owns 3 or 4 of different sizes (yes, they come in 'families' like those older instruments did - e.g. viols); her recorders were not that expensive, some are made of wood & others of plastic, so not a big investment.

Check out Lark in the Morning (http://larkinthemorning.com/search.asp?t=ss&sb=0&ss=recorders&x=0&y=0) for selections & prices.  Now, not an easy instrument to learn - will take some practice, plus the recorder sounds best w/ other instruments or in groups. 

Assume that you already have some recorder music, but one the the great players over the decades has been Michala Petri; a recent acquisition is shown below w/ her doing the Mozart Flute Quartets on a variety of different recorders - quite enjoyable (and highly recommended recently in Fanfare)

BTW - I've been 'eyeing' this small clarinet (below, right) for a while and from the same place - hmmm!  Dave

(http://giradman.smugmug.com/photos/418117561_o7Ga6-S.jpg)  (http://larkinthemorning.com/images/350/win162.jpg)
Title: Re: Playing the recorder
Post by: Dr. Dread on February 20, 2009, 07:26:31 AM
Quote from: SonicMan on February 20, 2009, 07:21:33 AM
Dave - my wife plays a bunch of instruments, including the recorder; she has been doing so for decades (used to have a recorder group at the Unitarian Fellowship she attends) - probably owns 3 or 4 of different sizes (yes, they come in 'families' like those older instruments did - e.g. viols); her recorders were not that expensive, some are made of wood & others of plastic, so not a big investment.

Check out Lark in the Morning (http://larkinthemorning.com/search.asp?t=ss&sb=0&ss=recorders&x=0&y=0) for selections & prices.  Now, not an easy instrument to learn - will take some practice, plus the recorder sounds best w/ other instruments or in groups. 

Assume that you already have some recorder music, but one the the great players over the decades has been Michala Petri; a recent acquisition is shown below w/ her doing the Mozart Flute Quartets on a variety of different recorders - quite enjoyable (and highly recommended recently in Fanfare)

BTW - I've been 'eyeing' this small clarinet (below, right) for a while and from the same place - hmmm!  Dave

(http://giradman.smugmug.com/photos/418117561_o7Ga6-S.jpg)  (http://larkinthemorning.com/images/350/win162.jpg)


Thanks for all the useful information.

I played trumpet in junior high school, so this should be a snap, right? :)

I own a Purcell recorder recording (har) and it drives me nuts. Maybe I'll like your selection better.