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Title: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on February 27, 2009, 03:21:40 PM

HINDEMITH- 2 sonatas
STRAVINSKY- elegie

BERIO- Sequenza
XENAKIS- Embellie
LIGETI- Sonata
SCIARRINO
RADULESCU

...Cortese, knox, Imai...
what am i missing?
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Maciek on February 27, 2009, 03:54:47 PM
several of the Bacewicz solo violin pieces (2nd Sonata, 4 Caprices, Polish Capriccio) have been transcribed for the viola by Stefan Kamasa

Penderecki - Cadenza (1984)

Reger - Suite
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: J on February 27, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
ENGLISH

   Brittten - Elegy
   Rubbra - Meditations on a Byzantine Hymn
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on February 27, 2009, 04:42:10 PM
BLOCH- sonata (unfinished)1958?

PLUS...did i say 2 suites for hindemith? i meant 4.  i had samual rhodes? (from julliard s.q.?) in a very tight recording on helicon. i found these pieces overpowering (maybe the recording), and i couldn't find too much of the friendlier hindemith in these works.  they are very viirtuoso, and pretty gnarly, meaty, making few concessions...i guess they would be considered THE masterpieces of the solo rep. since there is no corresponding Bach piece. at the time perhaps i was not ready to really plumb these big pieces, but i would like to check them out again later. i just seem to recall liking the solo violin and especially the cello sonatas better, though those pieces generally seem lighter and more tuneful (though the cello sn. is very dramatic).
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Brian on February 27, 2009, 08:38:02 PM
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Great music. The sixteen etudes are absolutely superb - not just from a technical standpoint but in conveying a wide variety of emotional colors. Highly recommended!
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: CRCulver on February 27, 2009, 11:54:42 PM
Quote from: snyprrr on February 27, 2009, 03:21:40 PM
I'm sure there's more with garth knox and nombuko imai (sic?). what am i missing?

There's Norgard's sonata for solo viola "The Secret Melody", written for Nobuko Imai and available on a BIS recording.

If you like other solo viola works with a spectral bent, Murail's "C'est un jardin secret" and Grisey's "Prologue" from Les Espaces Acoustiques are good listening.
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: sul G on February 28, 2009, 12:57:54 AM
Quote from: CRCulver on February 27, 2009, 11:54:42 PM
There's Norgard's sonata for solo viola "The Secret Melody", written for Nobuko Imai and available on a BIS recording.

If you like other solo viola works with a spectral bent, Murail's "C'est un jardin secret" and Grisey's "Prologue" from Les Espaces Acoustiques are good listening.


And in this spectral line, this disc is a must - it's about as far as these things can go, utterly amazing stuff. Fahndrich scarcely plays an 'ordinary' note on this discs; it's all harmonics, ponticelli etc. etc., but spun into dazzling repeating waves of sound that hang there like a line of glistening spiders webs.

(http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/00/5/9/403.jpg)

PM me, though, and I may be able to help on this one....
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on February 28, 2009, 02:41:39 PM
of all the solo string stuff here, the viola seems to have the most hidden treasures, especially all the cool spectral stuff. that last post cd sounds really interesting.

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET A COPY OF THE GARTH KNOX/disques montaigne RECITAL w/ligeti, kurtag, dillon, dusapin,sciarrinO??????
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Sean on February 28, 2009, 05:51:23 PM
Solo viola-

Brett Dean- Intimate decisions
Maderna- Viola
C.Matthews- Fanfare for Tony
H.Wood- Farewell piece
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on April 16, 2009, 11:36:52 PM
well,well,well

The Garth Knox recital "fell from the sky",haha...I had been waiting a long time, and yet I wasn't quite prepared.

It starts with Ligeti's Sonata, the first mvmt?'s plagent melody played solely on the viola's lowest string.  I don't think I'd ever really listened to the sound of a viola until then...just the sound is really something. The whole sonata is very satisfying, though you find yourself constantly asking yourself how many people are playing!

The Kurtag is, of course, typical, so...I love it too!

Dillon and Dusapin seem standard for any "arditti" album, so, here they are...I guess I'm glad they're there, and I can't think of who'd I'd replace them with, but sooometimes I get the feeling the "ardittis" can make ANYTHING sound good.  But ,the Dillon has a bit more substance; the Dusapin is a very early work...

Now, on to what I had been waiting for. Ever since I first heard Sciarrino's 20min solo violin extravaganza, I've been hooked. I have almost all his music for strings+, and finally another piece! Of course, there are no real surprises. You know what you're going to get. But, yea, I just couldn't stop listening.  Three pieces of liquid electricity...the production of special effects as High Art. I was reminded of the Italian pedigree of Paganini. When it comes to strings and mixed ensembles, Sciarrino is "my man"...I don't care what anyone says, this is just the most blazing, cool stuff! So there!

The Berio Sequenza rounds out the program...I think they got the idea of the propeller plane on the cover from the sound of this piece. Though not my favorite Sequenza (which one IS? ::)), you KNOW there's going to be one on every modern recital FOR EVER!! So, learn to love it! Of course Knox burns this one to the ground also.

I love the Arditti, but Knox takes the cake. Most of this cd sounds like duets and trios...and the tone of the viola, so apparent when naked, just takes you over.  I can see how I've overlooked and taken for granted it's place in the quartet.  Listening to those low notes really did something for me. At first I was disturbed that I wasn't hearing those violin high notes, but as I began to hear what the sound of the instrument was saying, I began to see the viola as a creature...the low string quite in the human range. There is really something there in the sound. And a special shout out to the Ligeti piece...with him, every note has its historical value. I REALLY want to go on about this cd!!! It's like I'm doing the peepee dance, haha :o.

This cd was the last on my "golden era" Arditti list, and it does cap quite an acheivement. Knox is just...I can't...I'm exhausted from gushing!

I hear he has a cd of spectral works (Scelsi (Mando?), Radulescu (Das Andere)...) that I can't find, and now there is an ecm cd of viola d'amoure and cello duets (I THINK most of it's "normal" music).

It was a good day in viola land.
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: sound67 on April 17, 2009, 11:08:05 AM
Miklós Rózsa, "Introduction and Allegro" for Solo Viola
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Joe Barron on April 20, 2009, 06:31:37 AM
Elliott Carter, Figment IV, solo viola

Available on  Happy Birthday Elliott Carter: New Chamber Works (http://www.amazon.com/Happy-Birthday-Elliott-Carter-Chamber/dp/B001LAGDRM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1240238417&sr=1-1) from the Swiss Chamber Soloists.
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: karlhenning on April 24, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
Henning, Sonatina sopra « Veni, Emmanuel »
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on March 05, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
Is there a Viola Thread on GMG? I'm only beginning to appreciate its tone, and place. Will dig out the Ligeti.
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: PaulSC on March 05, 2011, 09:25:15 PM
There's a solo suite by Jolivet, one of his late works. And there's George Benjamin's marvelous Viola, Viola for two violas (which sounds like Viola, Viola, Viola, Viola for four violas -- very rich textures).
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Lethevich on March 05, 2011, 09:47:00 PM
HINDEMITH! :3 He wrote some very searching music for the instrument, both solo and accompanied. Weinberg wrote several solo viola sonatas although I have yet to hear any of them.

Rebecca Clarke wrote some fine late-tonal pieces (influenced by impressionism and various other schools) for the instrument, often in combination with one or two other instruments. Fortunately much of her music has been recorded - it's really neat stuff.
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Grazioso on March 06, 2011, 10:26:02 AM
Viola transcriptions of Bach's cello suites have been recorded.

Bax:

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If you're open to orchestral works:

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Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on March 07, 2011, 07:30:25 AM
Any recommends on the Hindemith Sonatas (solo)? I had Samuel Rhodes, but the recording was very dry. I've heard the Kashkashian, but don't remember impressions.
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: karlhenning on March 07, 2011, 08:16:41 AM
Well, and you're now missing the Henning Sonata (completed)
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Chaszz on March 07, 2011, 12:07:19 PM
Max Bruch's late Concerto for Viola and Clarinet, which I regularly recommend on this forum. Underappreciated and should stand alongside or perhaps above the two or three other works for which he is remembered. 
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: bwv 1080 on March 07, 2011, 01:56:28 PM
Shostakovich's Viola Sonata - his last and most devastating work
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: snyprrr on April 15, 2014, 08:24:24 AM
Not much going on in Violaland...

Checking out the Penderecki, Schnittke, and Martinu Concertos...
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: torut on April 18, 2014, 10:54:02 PM
Quote from: Lethevich on March 05, 2011, 09:47:00 PM
Weinberg wrote several solo viola sonatas although I have yet to hear any of them.
I'm very interested in this, but has not heard it yet.

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Mieczysław Weinberg (1919–1996)
Sonata for Clarinet and Piano, op. 28 (1945) ~ Version for Viola and Piano
Sonata for Viola Solo No. 1, op. 107 (1971)
Sonata for Viola Solo No. 2, op. 123 (1978)
Sonata for Viola Solo No. 3, op. 135 (1982)
Sonata for Viola Solo No. 4, op. 136 (1983)

Fyodor Druzhinin (1932–2007)
Sonata for Viola Solo (1959)
Title: Re: The Bless'd Viola
Post by: Philo on April 18, 2014, 11:28:15 PM
The great Liza Lim answers this beck and call with Amulet for Solo Viola:

http://www.australianmusiccentre.com.au/product/after-the-fire