http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8133964.stm
Quote from: The Unrepentant Pelleastrian on July 03, 2009, 06:51:22 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8133964.stm
Don't fool yourself. Odds are you will see her more than ever now, since she isn't duty-bound to Alaska any longer. Any wisdom on her part will have her attending some sort of current affairs seminars during the next year or two... :)
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She just wants to be startin' somethin' . . . .
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 03, 2009, 07:04:11 PM
Don't fool yourself. Odds are you will see her more than ever now, since she isn't duty-bound to Alaska any longer. Any wisdom on her part will have her attending some sort of current affairs seminars during the next year or two... :)
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L'Archibudelli / Immerseel - Bia 455-1 Op 70 #1 Trio #4 in D for Piano & Strings 1st mvmt - Allegro vivace e con brio
Perhaps...
Anyhow, watching her speak today was too much..... And I thought Mark Sanford hit a new low of cringe-worthiness :-[
Let her run in 12, she has no shot against the emperor anyways.
Quote from: The Unrepentant Pelleastrian on July 03, 2009, 06:51:22 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8133964.stm
What is it that's wrong with her. Is she a nightmare? Why doesn't anyone like her? She seems presentable enough. ???
Quote from: John on July 03, 2009, 07:19:48 PM
What is it that's wrong with her. Is she a nightmare? Why doesn't anyone like her? She seems presentable enough. ???
The media presented her as an airhead, destroying any chance McCain had of winning.
Quote from: Mozart on July 03, 2009, 07:21:28 PM
The media presented her as an airhead, destroying any chance McCain had of winning.
Um, the media did no such thing. They didn't have to do anything; all she did was speak.
That was enough.
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Pretty, too bad her head was a tad empty.
Quote from: John on July 03, 2009, 07:19:48 PM
What is it that's wrong with her. Is she a nightmare? Why doesn't anyone like her? She seems presentable enough. ???
A few problems.
1. She doesn't know anything about foreign affairs and little about national domestic ones.
- The McCain campaign coached her strenuously on major campaign topics but she still did not demonstrate an understanding of them.
- She considered being next to Russia a qualification for foreign policy expertise.
2. She is a generally ignorant person.
- When asked to name a newspaper she reads, she could not give a single one. Her answer: "All of 'em! Any of 'em!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y
- She appears to believe that gay people can be "cured" of their homosexuality.
- She believes God told America to invade Iraq.
3. She has had numerous ethical charges leveled against her.
- When an Alaska police officer cut off a romantic relationship with Palin's sister, Palin demanded the officer be fired. When the head of state police refused to fire the officer, saying there was no good reason to do so, she fired the head of state police.
- After being nominated Vice President, Palin spent $150,000 on clothes for herself and her family, including $4,902 at a single store for clothing for her husband. The money was provided by the Republican Party - and, since the Republican campaign was publicly funded, this means it was provided by taxpayers.
- "Palin formed the grandiosely named Alaska Fund Trust, to defray a reported half million dollars in legal expenses arising from a slew of formal ethics complaints against her in her home state—prompting yet another formal complaint, that the fund itself constitutes an ethical breach." - Vanity Fair magazine
- Currently rumors are swirling that Palin received free construction materials for her house from a company which she endorsed in TV ads - and which she gave several million dollars in official government contracts.
- Palin used private e-mail accounts to conduct state business, thus avoiding a law which says that official e-mails have to be made public on request.
4. She has shown poor judgment as a leader.
- As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin asked a librarian if it would be practical to start censoring books.
- As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin spent several million dollars on the town's largest construction project ever - an athletics center. The building, designed to encourage healthy levels of exercise, was placed far enough away from the city that it was only accessible by car.
- "As governor, she hired several old high-school, hometown, or political friends with minimal qualifications for important state jobs. One friend, a former mid-level manager for Alaska Airlines, headed the department that reviewed candidates for state boards and commissions; another became director of the state Division of Agriculture, citing a childhood love of cows as one qualification." - Vanity Fair magazine
JdP, I'm really surprised you said that. It was almost kind. Are you getting soft??? ;DDid your nephew get on the computer while you were away? I'm concerned. :(
Picking Palin was a calculated move to garauntee Obama the WH. McCain knows who he works for.
ring...ring...
"Hello?"
"John, we need you to do something for us."
For crying out loud, they're ALL Manchurian Candidates! $:)
Quote from: Brian on July 03, 2009, 09:44:02 PM
- When an Alaska police officer cut off a romantic relationship with Palin's sister, Palin demanded the officer be fired. When the head of state police refused to fire the officer, saying there was no good reason to do so, she fired the head of state police.
Don't know about the others, but I do know that this situation wasn't nearly this straightforward.
Quote from: Brian on July 03, 2009, 09:44:02 PM
- Currently rumors are swirling that Palin received free construction materials for her house from a company which she endorsed in TV ads - and which she gave several million dollars in official government contracts.
A new source has confirmed this story. In fact, the following words have been used:
"a federal indictment is pending authorization." Palin hired Spenard Builders Supply to bring in raw materials and equipment for the construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex - a $13 million dollar job. In return, SBS built Palin a new house free of charge. The lakeside house is valued at over $550,000.
Incidentally, the design of the Wasilla Sports Complex was entrusted to an architect whose father just happened to be head of the local Republican Party.
Again, this is still a rumor. But the chances that it was made up by a vindictive blogger seem to be shrinking.
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on July 03, 2009, 09:56:48 PM
Don't know about the others, but I do know that this situation wasn't nearly this straightforward.
The cop was a slimeball, but had already been disciplined for his other skullduggery. I can't remember what his relationship with Palin's sister was.
Quote from: Brian on July 03, 2009, 09:44:02 PM
A few problems.
1. She doesn't know anything about foreign affairs and little about national domestic ones.
- The McCain campaign coached her strenuously on major campaign topics but she still did not demonstrate an understanding of them.
- She considered being next to Russia a qualification for foreign policy expertise.
2. She is a generally ignorant person.
- When asked to name a newspaper she reads, she could not give a single one. Her answer: "All of 'em! Any of 'em!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y
- She appears to believe that gay people can be "cured" of their homosexuality.
- She believes God told America to invade Iraq.
3. She has had numerous ethical charges leveled against her.
- When an Alaska police officer cut off a romantic relationship with Palin's sister, Palin demanded the officer be fired. When the head of state police refused to fire the officer, saying there was no good reason to do so, she fired the head of state police.
- After being nominated Vice President, Palin spent $150,000 on clothes for herself and her family, including $4,902 at a single store for clothing for her husband. The money was provided by the Republican Party - and, since the Republican campaign was publicly funded, this means it was provided by taxpayers.
- "Palin formed the grandiosely named Alaska Fund Trust, to defray a reported half million dollars in legal expenses arising from a slew of formal ethics complaints against her in her home state—prompting yet another formal complaint, that the fund itself constitutes an ethical breach." - Vanity Fair magazine
- Currently rumors are swirling that Palin received free construction materials for her house from a company which she endorsed in TV ads - and which she gave several million dollars in official government contracts.
- Palin used private e-mail accounts to conduct state business, thus avoiding a law which says that official e-mails have to be made public on request.
4. She has shown poor judgment as a leader.
- As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin asked a librarian if it would be practical to start censoring books.
- As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin spent several million dollars on the town's largest construction project ever - an athletics center. The building, designed to encourage healthy levels of exercise, was placed far enough away from the city that it was only accessible by car.
- "As governor, she hired several old high-school, hometown, or political friends with minimal qualifications for important state jobs. One friend, a former mid-level manager for Alaska Airlines, headed the department that reviewed candidates for state boards and commissions; another became director of the state Division of Agriculture, citing a childhood love of cows as one qualification." - Vanity Fair magazine
"A few problems..." lol A few too many to menion sounds like. So now I know who the lovely woman is and what she's all about, all I can say is I'm glad McCain didn't win if he CHOSE such a gocky bird to be his second. (Didn't trust the guy anyway, the USA and the World got the right man in the end). Sara is shapely and very nice to look at, all woman (albeit 100% niave and clearly stupid). However, as a result of this, I would have other ambitions for her which may or may not relate to pillows and matresses, NOT International Politics.
Quote from: John on July 04, 2009, 01:26:06 AM
Sara is shapely and very nice to look at, all woman (albeit 100% niave and clearly stupid). However, as a result of this, I would have other ambitions for her which may or may not relate to pillows and matresses, NOT International Politics.
I bet you felt very smart writing this neanderthal nonsense.
Quote from: Herman on July 04, 2009, 03:32:26 AM
I bet you felt very smart writing this neanderthal nonsense.
Too many softies in here.
I watched her statement yesterday and it's hard not to feel sorry for her. She seems to be having a nervous breakdown, and it shows the monumental negligence of the McCain campaign. This is a person that is obviously spiraling down into chaos. She can't perform the job she has, and all she can do now is go on a speaking tour to raise money from a shrinking pool of admirers. Believe it or not Republicans are not entirely faith-based and they can see what's in front of them, and they know higher office is not in Palin's future. It's either Fox News or talk radio, and right now I'm not even sure of Fox News.
I was amused how on the news they described her farewell addressed as long, rambling and confused. But on the other hand I agree with Ernie, she's clearly having a breakdown, it would be a tragic sight except out of office she has the potential of earning and wasting even more money! I don't know why people are even speculating that it's to prepare to run for president. You don't show your loyalty to your people by quitting your duty serving them. It seems obvious to me that she's bowing out of the political arena.
The idea that Ms Palin is having a breakdown is silly. She very clearly loves the limelight, doesn't get enough of it in Alaska, and is leaving office for two reasons. First, she'll cash in her conservative celebrity as a paid speaker and presumably talking head on some television blab fest. (She's too photogenic to be relegated to the radio.) Second, she'll campaign for a variety of candidates next year, and will be owed a lot of favors by various politicians. She may even think she has a shot at national office, at which time she would cash in those political favors. She can't get elected, but look at the parade of non-entities who delude themselves into thinking they do. She'll fizzle out in the early stages of the 2012 election if she opts to run. I wish her well in making a lot of money; if she has a modicum of sense, she'll stay out of elective politics in the future.
Quote from: Todd on July 04, 2009, 09:07:03 AMif she has a modicum of sense,
That's a big if.
A breakdown would surely require some degree of introspection? I don't think she's capable of that :P
Ha ha. Yeah, I know, no mercy in the arena for the opponent and all that, but she's in trouble. The liberals just want a target and the conservatives just want to deny the problem (in public), so she won't get help from anyone. I hope she just gets away for awhile and calms down a bit.
Quote from: Todd on July 04, 2009, 09:07:03 AM
The idea that Ms Palin is having a breakdown is silly.
Really? Funny, I thought she seemed pretty far out of it. Is she faking? Why would she do that? She just quit her job as governor on the spur of the moment, apparently without consulting anyone. IOW, she cracked.
Quote from: The Unrepentant Pelleastrian on July 03, 2009, 07:16:08 PMAnd I thought Mark Sanford hit a new low of cringe-worthiness
That's only because you haven't read the transcript of Bill O'Reilly's sexual harassment phone call. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris16.html) (WARNING: Not safe for work, or really for any kind of human consumption. I take no responsibility should you choose to click the link. If you have any standards of taste or do not wish to expose yourself to human nature at its worst, most primitive, and most vulgar, please do not click.)
Has anyone ever discovered why Palin changed colleges 6 (I think) times?
Well beauty and brains, it doesn't go often together, what a pity really, I think that would be lethal in a woman, at least for me. ;D
Quote from: drogulus on July 04, 2009, 02:37:00 PMReally? Funny, I thought she seemed pretty far out of it. Is she faking? Why would she do that? She just quit her job as governor on the spur of the moment, apparently without consulting anyone. IOW, she cracked.
So you know Palin and how she arrived at her decision? Her speech seemed about as well prepared and delivered as some of the others I saw her give, so I'm not sure what can be concluded from it's delivery. It's certainly not evidence that she "cracked." The idea that delicate Ms Palin had a breakdown certainly seems as silly as ever.
I saw what everyone else saw. Or, that is, I watched what everyone else watched. And what I saw was pretty clear. Why was she hyperventilating? Yes, she's pretty scattered at her best but this was really bad. And I don't think born-again politicians that you don't like (that I don't like, I should say) are immune to this kind of trouble. I don't know how much plainer it could be.
Quote from: drogulus on July 05, 2009, 08:17:21 AMI don't know how much plainer it could be.
Generally speaking, politicians are a somewhat calculating bunch. They often make rather self-interested decisions. I'm pretty sure Ms Palin did the same and then delivered one of her rather embarrasing speeches to explain, or obfuscate, it. If she really leaves public life, then I might buy the idea that she had a breakdown. If, instead, she starts in on the speaking and talking head circuit in the next 3-6 months to rake in money and publicity outside The Last Frontier, then I have very serious doubts that she had a breakdown. Besides, I do believe she has a multi-million dollar book she needs to work on while her name is still in the news.
I don't think there is any "breakdown" happening here. Palin knows what she's up to, and it will be interesting to follow whatever path she takes. Regardless, there's no way I'll ever vote for her; ignorance in a President isn't what the country needs.
Quote from: Richard CohenNaming Palin to the GOP ticket — a top-down choice by McCain — was the most reckless decision any national politician has made in the longest time, and while it certainly says something about McCain, it says even more about his party. It has lost its mind.
Recall, after all, that Palin was not McCain's first choice. That was either Joe Lieberman or Tom Ridge. Both were rejected by the party establishment because of their appalling moderation on social issues over which the president has little direct authority anyway — abortion, above all — and in Lieberman's case because he had been a Democrat. In desperation, McCain turned to Palin.
Was there a scream of protest? No. Did the Republican Party demand to know of McCain what the hell he had done? Again, no. Was it okay with the GOP if the person a heartbeat away from the presidency was — pardon me, but it's true — a ditz with no national experience whatsoever? You betcha. The party had cracked up, accepting a nullity because she was antiabortion over a seasoned senator and former governor because they were not. Ideology won. The nation lost.
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Have you read this?: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
Quote from: O Mensch on July 21, 2009, 09:34:55 AM
Have you read this?: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908
Mmm.
QuoteThe difficulties began immediately, with the McCain team's delivery of the bad news that the pregnancy of Palin's daughter Bristol, which was already common knowledge in Alaska and had been revealed to the McCain team at the last minute, could not be kept secret until after the Republican convention.