Do you know the recordings from the 1930s -- some Chopin and a Liszt sonata?
Charms the birds from the trees, he does.
I'm curious about what people think of his final Kinderszenen -- the one from the Hamburg concert.
I prefer the first recording. And do you know his pianolla recordings between 1925 and 32? ;)
No -- I don't know the piano rolls. What are they like?
Is there an earlier Liszt sonata than my 1932 record? Or are you talking about Kinderszenen? (I know there's one from 1949 but I haven't heard it)
Don't know any Liszt's son.before 1932. About Kreisleriana, I mean the one he recorded on RCA. About his piano rolls it sounds "mechanic", but with his fantastic technique. Short pieces from his usual repertory, 3 of his own war horses, but a very rare Liszt-Busoni phantasy on Mozart's Figaro, that's his only published recording of that piece. And I believe he didn't recorded after his "Walz" or his "moment exotique" ;D
Quote from: Mandryka on July 14, 2009, 08:33:11 AM
Do you know the recordings from the 1930s -- some Chopin and a Liszt sonata?
Charms the birds from the trees, he does.
Is that the APR CD?
There is this lovely Pearl floating around, George:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/216FBKEE39L._SL500_AA130_.jpg)
Horowitz-Solo Recordings 1928-36
However, the oyster shell it comes in is not cheap. :-\
Quote from: Bogey on July 14, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
There is this lovely Pearl floating around, George:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/216FBKEE39L._SL500_AA130_.jpg)
Horowitz-Solo Recordings 1928-36
However, the oyster shell it comes in is not cheap. :-\
I wonder how much overlaps with the 2 CD APR set I have? Mine says complete 1930-1936, so I would bet a great deal overlaps.
At under $18 new, it's a bargain. (http://www.amazon.com/Vladimir-Horowitz-complete-recordings-1930-1936/dp/B000MEYHDU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1247601959&sr=1-1)
Quote from: George on July 14, 2009, 11:19:49 AM
Is that the APR CD?
It's not the APR disc, but the recordings are the same as far as I can see.
Mine is on a Cedar Sound label I'm afraid -- I suspect you have a better transfer.
I noticed just now that the reviewer of the APR on amazon.com says that the Liszt sonata has never been surpassed.
May well be true.
I wonder if people can pinpoint the good Horowitz Liszt from his later recordings -- that would help me explore his art a bit more.
Quote from: DFO on July 14, 2009, 10:27:08 AM
Don't know any Liszt's son.before 1932. About Kreisleriana, I mean the one he recorded on RCA. About his piano rolls it sounds "mechanic", but with his fantastic technique. Short pieces from his usual repertory, 3 of his own war horses, but a very rare Liszt-Busoni phantasy on Mozart's Figaro, that's his only published recording of that piece. And I believe he didn't recorded after his "Walz" or his "moment exotique" ;D
I was talking about Kinderszenen not Kreisleriana. Is that a typo or did we cross wires?
I just played again the Hamburg Kinderszenen.
If there's an RCA Kinderszenen which is preferable then I want it NOW bacause the Hamburg one struck me as astounding.
Quote from: Mandryka on July 14, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
Is there an earlier Liszt sonata than my 1932 record?
No, that's one and the same November 1932 HMV recording. It's available on who knows how many labels: EMI, Philips (Great Pianists), Pearl, APR, Naxos, and possibly ever Italian pirat ever existed.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41qJnyckblL._SS400_.jpg)
Haven't heard the Pearl, but these are immaculate transfers.
Q
Quote from: George on July 14, 2009, 12:05:37 PM
I wonder how much overlaps with the 2 CD APR set I have? Mine says complete 1930-1936, so I would bet a great deal overlaps.
At under $18 new, it's a bargain. (http://www.amazon.com/Vladimir-Horowitz-complete-recordings-1930-1936/dp/B000MEYHDU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1247601959&sr=1-1)
Here is the Pearl set, I believe:
Vladimir Horowitz Variations on a Theme from Bizet's "Carmen", for piano 9:08
Frédéric Chopin Mazurka for piano No. 21 in C sharp minor, Op. 30/4, CT. 71 3:36
Carl Tausig Capriccio for piano in E 2:34
Claude Debussy Children's Corner, suite for piano (or orchestra), L. 113 (Serenade for the Doll) 3:03
Ernst von Dohnányi Concert Etude (Capriccio) for piano in F minor, Op. 28/6 2:11
Franz Liszt Valse oubliée, for piano No. 1, S. 215/1 (LW A311/1) 2:15
Franz Liszt Andante, etude for piano in E flat major (Grand Paganini Étude No. 2), S. 141/2 (LW A173/2) 3:07
Vladimir Horowitz Moment Exotique (Danse Excentrique), for piano 2:22
Sergey Rachmaninov Prelude for piano No.6 in G minor, Op. 23/5 3:14
Francis Poulenc Pastourelle, ballet movement (for collab. work, L'éventail de Jeanne), FP 45 (No 8 Pastourelle) 2:11
Francis Poulenc Trois pièces, for piano, FP 48 (No 2 Toccata) 1:51
Franz Joseph Haydn Keyboard Sonata in E flat major, H. 16/52 14:31
Sergey Rachmaninov Transcription of Rimsky-Korsakov's "Flight of the Bumblebee" from "The Tale of the Tsar Saltan" for piano, TN iii/9 1:09
Igor Stravinsky Petrushka, movements (3) for piano (Russian Dance) 2:15
Franz Liszt Piano Sonata in B minor, S. 178 (LW A179) 26:24
Robert Schumann Presto Appassionato for piano in G minor (rejected finale for Op. 22), WoO 5/2 5:30
Franz Liszt Funérailles, for piano (Harmonies poétiques No. 7), S.173/7 (LW A158/7) 9:08
Frédéric Chopin Mazurka for piano No. 7 in F minor, Op. 7/3, CT. 58 2:21
Frédéric Chopin Etude for piano No. 8 in F major, Op. 10/8, CT. 21 2:20
Frédéric Chopin Mazurka for piano No. 27 in E minor, Op. 41/2, CT. 77 1:55
Ludwig van Beethoven Variations (32) on an original theme for piano in C minor, WoO 80 9:26
Johann Sebastian Bach Nun freut euch, lieben Christen gmein (I), chorale prelude for organ, BWV 734 (BC K125) 1:58
Claude Debussy Études (12) for piano in 2 books, L. 136 (Etude XI pour les Arpèges Composés) 3:31
Robert Schumann Arabeske for piano in C major, Op. 18 6:13
Robert Schumann Toccata for piano in C major, Op. 7 4:42
Frédéric Chopin Etude for piano No. 15 in F major, Op. 25/3, CT 28. 1:30
Frédéric Chopin Mazurka for piano No. 32 in C sharp minor, Op. 50/3, CT. 82 4:12
Frédéric Chopin Etude for piano No. 4 in C sharp minor, Op. 10/4, CT. 17 2:01
Frédéric Chopin Etude for piano No. 5 in G flat major, Op. 10/5, CT. 18 1:33
Domenico Scarlatti Sonata for keyboard in B minor, K. 87 (L. 33) 4:17
Domenico Scarlatti Sonata for keyboard in G major, K. 125 (L. 487) 2:05
Frédéric Chopin Scherzo for piano No. 4 in E major, Op. 54, CT. 200 8:43
http://www.amazon.com/Horowitz-Solo-Recordings-1928-36-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B000000WRU
Here is yours?:
1. Sonata for Piano in B minor, S 178 by Franz Liszt
Performer: Vladimir Horowitz (Piano)
Period: Romantic
Written: 1852-1853; Weimar, Germany
2. Toccata for Piano in D minor, Op. 11 by Sergei Prokofiev
Performer: Vladimir Horowitz (Piano)
Period: 20th Century
Written: 1912; Russia
3. Sonata for Piano no 2 in B flat minor, B 128/Op. 35 "Funeral March": 1st movement by Frédéric Chopin
Performer: Vladimir Horowitz (Piano)
Period: Romantic
Written: 1837-1839; Paris, France
Naw....has to be more on yours as well George. Just cannot find the listing.
HERE (http://www.aprrecordings.co.uk/apr2/showentry.php?id=120) is the APR:
CD 1
CHOPIN Étude in C sharp minor Op 10 No 4; Étude in G flat major 'Black key' Op 10 No 5; Étude in F major Op 10 No 8; Étude in F major Op 25 No 3; Mazurka in F minor Op 7 No 3; Mazurka in E minor Op 41 No 2; Mazurka in C sharp minor Op 50 No 3; Scherzo No 4 in E major Op 54; Sonata No 2 in B flat minor Op 35 First movement; LISZT Funérailles Harmonies poétiques et réligieuses, S173 No 7; Sonata in B minor S178
CD 2
D SCARLATTI Sonata in B minor Kk87; Sonata in G major Kk125; BACH–BUSONI Nun freut euch, lieben Christen gmein BWV734; HAYDN Sonata in E flat major Hob XVI/52; BEETHOVEN 32 Variations on an original theme in C minor WoO80; SCHUMANN Presto passionato in G minor; Arabeske in C major Op 18; Traumes Wirren (Fantasiestücke), Op 12 No 7; Toccata in C major Op 7; DEBUSSY Étude XI: Pour les arpèges composés; POULENC Pastourelle; Toccata (Trois pièces pour piano, No 2); RIMSKY-KORSAKOV/RACHMANINOV The Flight of the Bumble-bee; STRAVINSKY Danse Russe (Petrushka); RACHMANINOV Prelude in G minor Op 23 No 5; PROKOFIEV Toccata in C major Op 11
Thanks Bill, looks like this is what's included in the Pearl but not in the APR set:
Quote from: Bogey on July 14, 2009, 06:02:26 PM
Here is the Pearl set, I believe:
Vladimir Horowitz Variations on a Theme from Bizet's "Carmen", for piano 9:08
Frédéric Chopin Mazurka for piano No. 21 in C sharp minor, Op. 30/4, CT. 71 3:36
Carl Tausig Capriccio for piano in E 2:34
Claude Debussy Children's Corner, suite for piano (or orchestra), L. 113 (Serenade for the Doll) 3:03
Ernst von Dohnányi Concert Etude (Capriccio) for piano in F minor, Op. 28/6 2:11
Franz Liszt Valse oubliée, for piano No. 1, S. 215/1 (LW A311/1) 2:15
Franz Liszt Andante, etude for piano in E flat major (Grand Paganini Étude No. 2), S. 141/2 (LW A173/2) 3:07
Vladimir Horowitz Moment Exotique (Danse Excentrique), for piano 2:22
Not exactly a whole lot, about 28 minutes of music. Given the great transfers and the hefty Pearl price, it looks like the APR is a no-brainer. Plus the APR has stuff that isn't on the Pearl, so completists need both anyway.
Got the same thing, I believe. I believe this is what is left on the Pearl set not on the APR....crop off others if I missed them, Gentlemen.
Vladimir Horowitz Variations on a Theme from Bizet's "Carmen", for piano 9:08
Frédéric Chopin Mazurka for piano No. 21 in C sharp minor, Op. 30/4, CT. 71 3:36
Carl Tausig Capriccio for piano in E 2:34
Claude Debussy Children's Corner, suite for piano (or orchestra), L. 113 (Serenade for the Doll) 3:03
Ernst von Dohnányi Concert Etude (Capriccio) for piano in F minor, Op. 28/6 2:11
Franz Liszt Valse oubliée, for piano No. 1, S. 215/1 (LW A311/1) 2:15
Franz Liszt Andante, etude for piano in E flat major (Grand Paganini Étude No. 2), S. 141/2 (LW A173/2) 3:07
Vladimir Horowitz Moment Exotique (Danse Excentrique), for piano 2:22
Hmmmm....these are on the APR, but not the Pearl?
Chopin Sonata No 2 in B flat minor Op 35 First movement;
PROKOFIEV Toccata in C major Op 11
Quote from: George on July 14, 2009, 06:17:21 PMPlus the APR has stuff that isn't on the Pearl, so completists need both anyway.
Looks like the APR is the way to go unless the Pearl can be had in a used bin.
Quote from: George on July 14, 2009, 06:17:21 PM
Thanks Bill, looks like this is what's included in the Pearl but not in the APR set:
Horowitz made recordings in the US during 1928 -1930. I guess (some of) those are included on the Pearl disc.
Q
Quote from: Que on July 14, 2009, 06:25:54 PM
Horowitz made recordings in the US during 1928 -1930. I guess (some of) those are included on the Pearl disc.
Q
Ah! Nice insight.
Quote from: Bogey on July 14, 2009, 06:22:29 PM
Got the same thing, I believe.
Yep. :)
Quote
Hmmmm....these are on the APR, but not the Pearl?
Chopin Sonata No 2 in B flat minor Op 35 First movement;
PROKOFIEV Toccata in C major Op 11
Correct. Also not in the Pearl set is Schumann: Traumes Wirren Op. 12 No. 2. So that leaves three works in the APR that are not in the Pearl:
1. Chopin Sonata 2 First Movement - 7:05
2. Prokofiev Toccata Op. 11 - 3:32
3. Schumann Traumes Wirren Op. 12, No. 2 - 2:20
About 13 minutes of music.
Quote from: Que on July 14, 2009, 05:42:38 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41qJnyckblL._SS400_.jpg)
Haven't heard the Pearl, but these are immaculate transfers.
Q
Just noticed that the Berkshire Record Outlet in the states has this new for only $7
There's more to Horowitz than the early recordings.
This contains a superb Kreisleriana and some nice Rachmaninov.
During his twenties Horowitz was merely brilliant and in his old age he lost his touch, I think. In between (1940's, 50's, 60's and 70's), he is unsurpassable, I'd say.
Quote from: Anglican Scholar on August 03, 2009, 09:46:03 PM
During his twenties Horowitz was merely brilliant and in his old age he lost his touch, I think. In between (1940's, 50's, 60's and 70's), he is unappeasable, I'd say.
I think it's much more complicated than that.
First off there are lots of recordings from the 20s through 70s which are ultimately disappointing -- studio attempts at Kreislariana and Kinderszenen and most of his Chopin and .. I could go on.
And second there are some recordings from the 80s -- like that Leningrad one I mentioned, and the final Hamburg concert-- which are excellent, real treasures.
And third some of the very early stuff -- like the Liszt B mnor -- is more than merely brilliant. I think it's one of the best performances of that particular sonata on record -- deep and coherent.
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Outstanding even by Horowitz's high standards, June 30, 2009
By Hank Drake (from amazon)
Sony has dipped into the archives at Yale University for this first ever release of performances by Vladimir Horowitz at the height of his powers.
Horowitz was well known for his transcriptions of such works as Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsodies and Sousa's Stars and Stripes Forever. But he faced criticism when he altered significant portions of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition - which was and remains far better known in Ravel's transcription for orchestra. Truth be told, Mussorgsky's original version is one of the most poorly written pieces - in terms of writing for the instrument, not musical ideas - in the piano repertoire. Before Horowitz, few pianists even bothered playing it at all. Those that did often made alterations, such as Moiseiwitsch in 1945. But it took someone with the guts and imagination of Horowitz to undertake a wholesale rewriting of the piece - which angered a lot of purists. In fact, Horowitz's changes are far more subtle than the firecracker like passageworks he afforded in his other arrangements.
Previous to this release, there were two issued recordings of Horowitz playing his arrangement of Pictures. The studio recording, from 1947, and a live Carnegie Hall performance, from 1951. Most reviewers have tended to prefer the 1951 recording, which has some incendiary passagework in The Hut on Fowl's Legs. I've been partial to the 1947 performance, which comes across as more of a single piece, rather than sectionalized. (Unfortunately, the 1947 recording has suffered from particularly poor remastering in BMG's Gold Seal Horowitz reissue.) The performance released here, from April 2, 1948, is more along the lines of the 1947 recording - although Horowitz, no doubt under the "battle-conditions" of live performance, does push tempo and articulation to extremes at times. Each Picture leads as part of the whole to the inevitable climax of the Great Gate of Kiev (appropriately, Kiev is the town where Horowitz grew up).
The 1949 recording of Liszt's Sonata in B Minor is another matter entirely - this performance is like nothing you've ever heard. Neither the cheetah like sprint of Horowitz's famed 1932 recording nor the labored grandiloquence of his 1977 remake can compare with this overwhelmingly incendiary performance. There will no doubt be controversy here, as Horowitz cuts 22 bars from the central Recitativo section of the work - but this performance must be heard.
The sound has been excellently restored by Jon Samuels. A few quibbles: At under 60 minutes, this disc is not well filled - and with the huge cache of unreleased material in Sony/BMG's vaults, there is no excuse. There was room for Horowitz's versions of Liszt's St Francis Walking on the Water and Balakirev's Islamey, also recorded at these concerts. And this CD, like many of Sony's new releases, is packaged in cheap paperboard - so handle with care.
I've been looking for this CD with little success thus far and would be much obliged if perhaps some of the members who peruse well stocked used CD shops give me shout in case of spotting it anywhere, thanks in advance.
Horowitz in Recital
November 24, 1968
Stradivarius: STR 10038
Robert Schumann
1-8. Kreisleriana, Op.16
Sergei Rachmaninoff
9. Prelude in G-sharp minor, Op.32 No.12
10. Moment Musical in B minor, Op.16 No.3
Sergei Rachmaninoff/Vladimir Horowitz
11-13. Sonata No.2 in B-flat minor, Op.36
Frederic Chopin
14. Barcarolle in F-sharp major, Op.60
Sergei Rachmaninoff
15. Etude-Tableau in C major, Op.33 No.2
16. Etude-Tableau in E-flat minor, Op.33 No.5
17. Etude-Tableau in D major, Op.39 No.9
Frederic Chopin
18. Scherzo No.1 in B minor, Op.20
Quote from: George on September 03, 2009, 09:37:37 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oOmeTfYBL._SS500_.jpg)
Without me looking, buddy, does this cross over with the Pearl set that we have on our shelves?
Quote from: Bogey on January 30, 2010, 06:26:56 AM
Without me looking, buddy, does this cross over with the Pearl set that we have on our shelves?
I don't think so, as ours are all studio recordings.
Quote from: Drasko on January 23, 2010, 11:19:28 AM
I've been looking for this CD with little success thus far and would be much obliged if perhaps some of the members who peruse well stocked used CD shops give me shout in case of spotting it anywhere, thanks in advance.
Horowitz in Recital
November 24, 1968
Stradivarius: STR 10038
Robert Schumann
1-8. Kreisleriana, Op.16
Sergei Rachmaninoff
9. Prelude in G-sharp minor, Op.32 No.12
10. Moment Musical in B minor, Op.16 No.3
Sergei Rachmaninoff/Vladimir Horowitz
11-13. Sonata No.2 in B-flat minor, Op.36
Frederic Chopin
14. Barcarolle in F-sharp major, Op.60
Sergei Rachmaninoff
15. Etude-Tableau in C major, Op.33 No.2
16. Etude-Tableau in E-flat minor, Op.33 No.5
17. Etude-Tableau in D major, Op.39 No.9
Frederic Chopin
18. Scherzo No.1 in B minor, Op.20
I am all over this like fleas on a prairie dog, Miloš!
Quote from: George on January 30, 2010, 06:28:00 AM
I don't think so, as ours are all studio recordings.
Thanks. I hate those paperboard covers, but oh well.
Quote from: Bogey on January 30, 2010, 06:30:28 AM
Thanks. I hate those paperboard covers, but oh well.
Warning: If the sound quality was "excellenty restored" I would hate to have heard them before restoration. Scratchiness runs riot in some places. On this CD, the Mussorgsky is ruined in some places for me because of the scratches; and so is the Haydn on the Haydn/Beethoven entry--but not the Beethoven, which is worth the price of the CD by itself. I'm debating whether to get the middle CD of the series because of the sound issues (it contains, by the way, Islamey).
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Q2267SY5L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
This is the 1947 studio performance that really sounds great on ASV Living Era, you will be surprised how good the sound quality is...........
Very cheap at Amazon USA plus has many valuable extras, check the sound samples there
Quote from: Drasko on January 23, 2010, 11:19:28 AM
I've been looking for this CD with little success thus far and would be much obliged if perhaps some of the members who peruse well stocked used CD shops give me shout in case of spotting it anywhere, thanks in advance.
Horowitz in Recital
November 24, 1968
Stradivarius: STR 10038
Robert Schumann
1-8. Kreisleriana, Op.16
Sergei Rachmaninoff
9. Prelude in G-sharp minor, Op.32 No.12
10. Moment Musical in B minor, Op.16 No.3
Sergei Rachmaninoff/Vladimir Horowitz
11-13. Sonata No.2 in B-flat minor, Op.36
Frederic Chopin
14. Barcarolle in F-sharp major, Op.60
Sergei Rachmaninoff
15. Etude-Tableau in C major, Op.33 No.2
16. Etude-Tableau in E-flat minor, Op.33 No.5
17. Etude-Tableau in D major, Op.39 No.9
Frederic Chopin
18. Scherzo No.1 in B minor, Op.20
Did you find it? I'm looking for it now!
Quote from: Mandryka on August 24, 2011, 09:32:24 AM
Did you find it? I'm looking for it now!
No, never even got a glimpse of it. And I'd love to, supposedly Rachmaninov 2nd sonata is volcanic, and Horowitz managed even to break a piano string while playing it. If you find it let me know, and vice versa of course.
Quote from: Mandryka on August 24, 2011, 09:32:24 AM
Did you find it? I'm looking for it now!
If Drasko can't find it, it can't be found. But I will keep and eye out, nonetheless.
Quote from: Drasko on August 24, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
No, never even got a glimpse of it. And I'd love to, supposedly Rachmaninov 2nd sonata is volcanic, and Horowitz managed even to break a piano string while playing it.
His live 1981 at Carnegie (on RCA) is pretty vocanic. Have you heard that one?
Quote from: Drasko on August 24, 2011, 01:33:43 PM
No, never even got a glimpse of it. And I'd love to, supposedly Rachmaninov 2nd sonata is volcanic, and Horowitz managed even to break a piano string while playing it. If you find it let me know, and vice versa of course.
I have heard the Kreisleriana and Chopin scherzo are very good .
Quote from: George on August 24, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
His live 1981 at Carnegie (on RCA) is pretty vocanic. Have you heard that one?
Don't know really. I'm not that versed in Horowitz discography. I have two of his Rachmaninov 2nd Sonatas, one dated as 05.1980 on one of Great Pianists volumes, and another from 15.12.1968 on 'Horowitz plays Rachmaninoff' CBS disc. Of those two I prefer the 60s one.
Quote from: Mandryka on August 24, 2011, 09:23:35 PM
I have heard the Kreisleriana and Chopin scherzo are very good .
From that concert? His Kreisleriana is one of my very top choices (with Brand, and before Cortot, Neuhaus and Schuch), but the one I have is from 1969. I run hot and cold with his Chopin, mostly cold, but his b minor Scherzo I do really like, some odd choices in trio notwithstanding, but the one I have is from early 50s or something like that.
Quote from: Drasko on August 25, 2011, 01:22:58 AM
Don't know really. I'm not that versed in Horowitz discography. I have two of his Rachmaninov 2nd Sonatas, one dated as 05.1980 on one of Great Pianists volumes, and another from 15.12.1968 on 'Horowitz plays Rachmaninoff' CBS disc. Of those two I prefer the 60s one.
Ok, the 5/1980 is the one I meant. The 1981 was a typo.
Anyone have this CD?
(http://www.classicstoday.com/images/coverpics/876_coverpic.jpg)
http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=876
http://www.discogs.com/Tchaikovsky--Vladimir-Horowitz--NBC-Symphony-Orchestra--Arturo-Toscanini-Symphony-No-6-Path%C3%A9tique-P/release/1058546
http://www.flyinginkpot.com/1999/06/inkpot79-classical-music-reviews-tchaikovsky-symphony-no-6-piano-concerto-horowitznbcsotoscanini-naxos-toscanini-concert-edition/
It's the 19th April, 1941 Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto that I am looking for. :-[
QuoteIt's the 19th April, 1941 Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto that I am looking for.
I have it, but on another label (The International Music Company, Germany, 2CD 1999 20.3166). Don´t know about the naxos transfer, but the sound is good and a lot "softer" than the very well-known RCA 25/4 1943. The phrasing is often different from that one, often more elegant, faster (fastest ever ?), yet less brutal, and I prefer it to the RCA. The orchestra has problems keeping up, but overall it´s fine.
Definitely recommended.
But my main favourite is probably the Horowitz/Szell 4/5 1952.
Quote from: George on September 06, 2011, 03:32:12 AM
Anyone have this CD?
(http://www.classicstoday.com/images/coverpics/876_coverpic.jpg)
It's the 19th April, 1941 Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto that I am looking for. :-[
I have it. It's awesome. My favorite recording of the concerto, prefer it to both studio 41 and live war bonds concert '43. The Pathetique is also very good (in dim sound though). Are you looking for a CD to buy? If so, here:
http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Piano-Concerto-Number-1/dp/B0000269IR
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tchaikovsky-Symphony-Concerto-Piano-Orchestra/dp/B0000269IR
Or if you want just the concerto I could rip and upload it, just let me know.
Quote from: Drasko on September 06, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
I have it. It's awesome. My favorite recording of the concerto, prefer it to both studio 41 and live war bonds concert '43. The Pathetique is also very good (in dim sound though). Are you looking for a CD to buy? If so, here:
http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Piano-Concerto-Number-1/dp/B0000269IR
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tchaikovsky-Symphony-Concerto-Piano-Orchestra/dp/B0000269IR
Or if you want just the concerto I could rip and upload it, just let me know.
Thanks, I just grabbed a used copy. :)
Quote from: Drasko on September 06, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
I have it. It's awesome. My favorite recording of the concerto...
Who did this Naxos transfer?
Quote from: George on September 06, 2011, 09:23:56 AM
Who did this Naxos transfer?
Don't really know. Test pressings and master tapes came from Richard Caniell archive (I think for complete Toscanini Concert Edition series did), but who has done the transfers and/or remastering for Naxos CD release don't know.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SKJWMX6BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
Listening to Horowitz's Scarlatti, on Volume Two of Sony's reissue of the Complete Columbia Masterworks Recordings of Vladimir Horowitz. This is new to me, I've been exploring Scarlatti on the piano and this recording is a wonderful experience! 8)
Could fans of the pianist please estimate when his peak years were?
Looks like he had a long recording career, recording from 1928 to 1989.
I am going to say 1929-1936.
Quote from: George on July 19, 2015, 07:52:48 AM
Thanks!
Depends on what you mean by peak. Just listening to his Scarlatti and Schumann from the 60s/early 70s he appeared to be on fine form during this time. The two CDs I'm talking about are wonderful performances by a pianist who had really come to terms with this music. Other recordings from this period tend to confirm for me that this was Horowitz at one of his best times.
Quote from: Holden on July 19, 2015, 11:48:59 AM
Depends on what you mean by peak.
I guess I just mean does he have a point where the quality clearly drops off?
QuoteJust listening to his Scarlatti and Schumann from the 60s/early 70s he appeared to be on fine form during this time. The two CDs I'm talking about are wonderful performances by a pianist who had really come to terms with this music. Other recordings from this period tend to confirm for me that this was Horowitz at one of his best times.
Thanks!
Some seem to think that the '40s were when he was at his peak. I've heard very little of his from this period but he still had all his technical chops at that stage. He was still technically excellent in the 50s/60s but maybe a bit of the bravura had vanished.
Here is an excellent article on his playing.
http://www.classical.net/music/recs/reviews/r/rca62644a.php
Quote from: Holden on July 19, 2015, 02:03:05 PM
Some seem to think that the '40s were when he was at his peak. I've heard very little of his from this period but he still had all his technical chops at that stage. He was still technically excellent in the 50s/60s but maybe a bit of the bravura had vanished.
Here is an excellent article on his playing.
http://www.classical.net/music/recs/reviews/r/rca62644a.php
Thanks for all that, Holden!
After watching this DVD (which (strangely) uses a lot of footage from the Last Romantic DVD) I wanted to hear more, so I am listening to the APR 2CD set for the first time in a long time. I'm only 5 tracks in, but Horowitz seems very well behaved on this set.
(https://d1iiivw74516uk.cloudfront.net/eyJidWNrZXQiOiJwcmVzdG8tY292ZXItaW1hZ2VzIiwia2V5IjoiNzk1MjQ2Ny4xLmpwZyIsImVkaXRzIjp7InJlc2l6ZSI6eyJ3aWR0aCI6OTAwfSwianBlZyI6eyJxdWFsaXR5Ijo2NX0sInRvRm9ybWF0IjoianBlZyJ9LCJ0aW1lc3RhbXAiOjE1Njk5MzM2MDh9)
I picked up a used copy of this a while back for about the price of a sandwich, but I haven't really devoted any time to it yet. Any particular recommendations amongst his Chopin?
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Quote from: j winter on July 07, 2023, 11:34:19 AMI picked up a used copy of this a while back for about the price of a sandwich, but I haven't really devoted any time to it yet. Any particular recommendations amongst his Chopin?
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The Mazurkas.