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Choose up to 3  0:)

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 19, 2009, 07:14:23 AM
Choose up to 3  0:)

You're an animal, Ray!  0:)

Pick 3.... why, I oughtta... :P

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 19, 2009, 07:35:14 AM
You're an animal, Ray!  0:)

Pick 3.... why, I oughtta... :P

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Well, it wouldn't be fun if you could pick all 10, now would it?  :P ;)

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 19, 2009, 07:37:04 AM
Well, it wouldn't be fun if you could pick all 10, now would it?  :P ;)

Umm, well, I always have before. :)

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Is there a complete box of these?

Quote from: HM Dave on August 19, 2009, 07:39:22 AM
Is there a complete box of these?

Probably many of them. Most groups just played the Last 10. I'll let someone else get into making rec's. I just rec music (particularly these!). :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 19, 2009, 07:38:29 AM
Umm, well, I always have before. :)

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Me too  :)  Does anyone actually pay attention to the early quartets (1 to 13)?  They are never talked about, it would seem.

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 19, 2009, 07:41:04 AM
Me too  :)  Does anyone actually pay attention to the early quartets (1 to 13)?  They are never talked about, it would seem.

I like several of them, starting with the one in d minor. I only have one complete set (Talich on Calliope), but I like it quite a lot. Even I, who doesn't discriminate against early compositions, will freely admit that in the 10 years between the 2 d minor quartets Mozart learned a thing or two... :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 19, 2009, 07:44:45 AM
. . . Even I, who don't discriminate against early compositions, will freely admit that in the 10 years between the 2 d minor quartets Mozart learned a thing or two... :)

Also sprach Gurn!  0:) :)

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 19, 2009, 07:38:29 AM
Umm, well, I always have before. :)

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Yes, I have no heart for removing any of those 10, either!

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 19, 2009, 07:44:45 AM
I like several of them, starting with the one in d minor. I only have one complete set (Talich on Calliope), but I like it quite a lot. Even I, who doesn't discriminate against early compositions, will freely admit that in the 10 years between the 2 d minor quartets Mozart learned a thing or two... :)

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You know I think I used to have that set... hmm...

Well even though I the Dissonant and Hunt quartets got me into the whole thing (and I especially like the dissonant quartet), and I have a special warm place in my heart for KV 499, I think the last three are tops for me. :)

Back in the day when Naxos was the young upstart company, I fetched a Mozart String Quartets Vol. 1 disc or some such.  I'm pretty sure I listened to it.  Once.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 19, 2009, 08:20:50 AM
Back in the day when Naxos was the young upstart company, I fetched a Mozart String Quartets Vol. 1 disc or some such.  I'm pretty sure I listened to it.  Once.

That was my intro as well with Dissonant and Hunt Quartet, um I think I had the earlier Naxos Q, they replaced them with the Eder Q recordings.  I can't remember the name of the ensemble I had, just know that it wasn't the Eder Q.

I choose the usual suspects: D minor, Hunt and Dissonance. I'm boring  ;D

Sarge

d minor (of course), KV428 and Dissonance.

Quote from: HM Dave on August 19, 2009, 07:39:22 AM
Is there a complete box of these?

Yup. Mosaïques, and then there is the complete set by Hagen. I find both necessary.

Quote from: Valentino on August 19, 2009, 08:34:47 AM
d minor (of course), KV428 and Dissonance.Yup. Mosaïques, and then there is the complete set by Hagen. I find both necessary.

And Talich, and the Italians (!! they are really good with Mozart).

1) G Major: This is one powzy-wowzy SQ! All those dribbling chromatics and such. Whoever wrote this, it's quite an eyeopener for 1782. This one is a bit special for me; it just seems to have it all.

2) d minor: of course, it's in the minor. What are you going to say?

3) Eb Major: This has my favorite slow mvmt. Also, the opening unisons peg this one.

4)Bb #1 (The Hunt):  ???

5)A Major: very intricate. Still have a hard time IDing.

6)C Major (Dissonance): probably "The One."

7)D Major (Hoffmeister): one of my favs early on. Put next to K387.

8)D Major:  ???

9)Bb Major:  ???

10)F Major: from the opening unisons, this one has that mature, autumnal style that I like so much, almost reminding me of late Brahms (you know).



ok, so instead of "picking" three, I will "delete" three: both Bbs and the D Major... so there! If anyone can tell me what sets these three apart, I'm all ears. Mozart's style is so...so..."homogenous"? that it's hard for me to tell which one I'm in sometimes. At least with the d minor, I know I'm in a minor SQ... but I just can't recall the little D Major or the Bbs, and I haaave been listening to them lately. I don't usually have that problem with Haydn.

BTW, since I neglected to log it earlier, I chose K 464, 465 and 589.... :)

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Come on, cast your votes!  The Hoffmeister needs more love!  >:(

I can't vote. I don't know one from the other. La-dee-dah...

Quote from: MN Dave on August 19, 2009, 10:03:01 AM
I can't vote. I don't know one from the other. La-dee-dah...

That's never stopped you before. ;D

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Just like the Beethoven Sonatas, if all else fails and you can't decide........just go for the nicknamed ones!  ;D

 ;D

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 19, 2009, 10:17:23 AM
That's never stopped you before. ;D

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Busted!

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 19, 2009, 12:04:44 PM
Busted!

I'll have you know that I NEVER vote unless I semiknow what I'm talking about!

15, 17, 19, done.

Mozart's string quintets > his string quartets (qualitatively). Though, k387 is sublime!

Quote from: -abe- on August 20, 2009, 02:36:42 AM
Mozart's string quintets > his string quartets (qualitatively). Though, k387 is sublime!

horserace thinking.

Mozart's quintets are stunning. So are his quartets.

I voted for KV 387, 428 and 575. That's my choice today. ;D

I'm the only one who's voted for K.499  :'(

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 20, 2009, 04:31:04 AM
I'm the only one who's voted for K.499  :'(

Well, it's your own fault. Limiting it to 3... :D

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 20, 2009, 04:33:45 AM
Well, it's your own fault. Limiting it to 3... :D

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I've created a monster!  8)

What's this obsession with listing/poll topics here? One or two is an amusing divertimento, but every other topic...  ::)

Quote from: Rod Corkin on August 20, 2009, 06:27:42 AM
What's this obsession with listing/poll topics? One or two is an amusing divertimento, but every other topic...  ::)

Your eyes are going to stick like that.

Oh, and nobody likes you here.  ;D

Quote from: MN Dave on August 20, 2009, 06:29:43 AM
Your eyes are going to stick like that.

Oh, and nobody likes you here.  ;D

Everybody likes old Rodders!  ;D

Quote from: Rod Corkin on August 20, 2009, 06:27:42 AM
What's this obsession with listing/poll topics here? One or two is an amusing divertimento, but every other topic...  ::)

Divertimenti aren't included here, sorry.

What is your problem Rod, if you don't like the poll/topic, no one is forcing you to participate in any of them?  Several actually do like to participate in them, cause it's fun.  It is only for interest and curiosity's sake.

I took 387, 428 and 590. lately I have been listening a lot to the last three, the Prussian Quartets.

However I think it's fair to say these are all amazing works, from 387 through 590. I have been listening to these quartets for thirty years now, and the remain inexhaustible.

The ones that are, perhaps, not as brimful with ideas as the other ones, 458 and 499, as still indispensible, and I cen remember having a distinct fondness for these two works.

Quote from: Rod Corkin on August 20, 2009, 06:27:42 AM
What's this obsession with listing/poll topics here? One or two is an amusing divertimento, but every other topic...  ::)

I think of this type of thread as a conversation starter. Maybe it seems a bit useless at first, but some fine discussion can develop around the central concept.

Quote from: MN Dave on August 20, 2009, 06:59:59 AM
I think of this type of thread as a conversation starter. Maybe it seems a bit useless at first, but some fine discussion can develop around the central concept.

Good point, Dave.

Well, one has to read between the lines sometimes. This thread isn't really about picking 3; it's about a love for Mozart's string quartets.

Dave, you are the man.

I wonder if Dissonant and Hunt are so popular simply because they have names that serve as anchors, so much more personal than a #.  That's why I buck the trend my talking about the kv 499. :D

Quote from: DavidW on August 20, 2009, 08:19:05 AM
I wonder if Dissonant and Hunt are so popular simply because they have names that serve as anchors, so much more personal than a #.  That's why I buck the trend my talking about the kv 499. :D

Yet no love for the Hoffmeister to Ray's dismay. This love for the named works extends beyond Mozart's quartets to Beethoven's sonatas, Mahler's symphonies, Chopin's stuff, et cetera.

As for why I enjoy K.499 so much, is it's somewhat more simplistic approach.  It just seems to flow so beautifully from beginning to end.

And, as far as minuet movements (Menuetto?) go, is probably one of the best ones I've heard in all the classical era.  (While normally I catch a few "zzzz" and swallow a few flies during many a classical minuetto)  ;D

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 20, 2009, 06:47:24 AM
Divertimenti aren't included here, sorry.

.....slinks away...... :'(

Quote from: Herman on August 20, 2009, 06:57:14 AM
However I think it's fair to say these are all amazing works, from 387 through 590. I have been listening to these quartets for thirty years now, and the remain inexhaustible.

Hear, hear.

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 20, 2009, 06:47:24 AM
Divertimenti aren't included here, sorry.

What is your problem Rod, if you don't like the poll/topic, no one is forcing you to participate in any of them?  Several actually do like to participate in them, cause it's fun.  It is only for interest and curiosity's sake.

Just a personal observation CN. I recall long ago being chastised heavily by the great and good here when I dared to pit Bach and Handel against each other in a 'musical showdown', but I guess it would be seen as a fun conversation starter now? How times change...  ;D

Quote from: DavidW on August 20, 2009, 08:19:05 AM
I wonder if Dissonant and Hunt are so popular simply because they have names that serve as anchors, so much more personal than a #.

On the same lines as Pick three Beethoven piano sonatas?-- Moonlight, Appassionata & Pathétique!

Quote from: Rod Corkin on August 21, 2009, 01:47:18 AM
Just a personal observation CN. I recall long ago being chastised heavily by the great and good here when I dared to pit Bach and Handel against each other in a 'musical showdown', but I guess it would be seen as a fun conversation starter now?

No, that remains dunderheaded.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 21, 2009, 03:48:52 AM
On the same lines as Pick three Beethoven piano sonatas?-- Moonlight, Appassionata & Pathétique!

the Disso Quartet obviously has the added attraction of having the anecdote attached to it that some of the folks first exposed to this piece flipped their lid because Mozart didn't follow the rules. This would make it the Sacre of the classical string quartet literature. People always love those stories. Of course the G major 387 is the real innovative quartet in the six Haydn quartets.

The opening of the Dissonant quartet is still my favorite opening of any quartet!  8)

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 21, 2009, 04:34:49 AM
The opening of the Dissonant quartet is still my favorite opening of any quartet!  8)

I think LvB Op 59 #1 for me. :)  Or perhaps DSCH #8.

Quote from: DavidW on August 21, 2009, 04:37:46 AM
I think LvB Op 59 #1 for me. :)  Or perhaps DSCH #8.

Sounds like another Top 10 thread idea to me David.  Just for Rod!  ;D

Great Idea. I hereby nominate Schubert D887, LvB op.95 and Haydn "Quinten".

You all suck for not picking the hoffmeister

Quote from: Mozart on August 21, 2009, 11:18:18 AM
You all suck for not picking the hoffmeister

Thanks for being my new best friend!  ;D

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 21, 2009, 11:24:47 AM
Thanks for being my new best friend!  ;D

Which other 2 did you pick? I choose 15 and 16  :)

Quote from: Mozart on August 21, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
Which other 2 did you pick? I choose 15 and 16  :)

18 & 19.

Are you still friends?

Quote from: MN Dave on August 21, 2009, 06:32:36 PM
Are you still friends?

Well, I think those differences are "reconcilable"  ;D  I'm just happy someone else out there likes the Hoffmeister.  :D

Well, I cannot vote for a piece I haven't heard yet.

I'm not Dave  ;D

I would never, ever do that.   :-*

True; I did but jest.