I have fell head over heels for the music of Henk Badings...but there's nothing much out there! Can anyone point me to some Badings somewhere?
I have the 2,7,12 album, and his Cello Cencerto...and love it all. :-*
Quote from: John on March 20, 2010, 10:13:05 PM
I have fell head over heels for the music of Henk Badings...but there's nothing much out there! Can anyone point me to some Badings somewhere?
I have the 2,7,12 album, and his Cello Cencerto...and love it all. :-*
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Henk+Badings
Anthology Of Dutch Electronic Tape Music: Volume 1 (1955-1966) can be found on many file sharing sites.
Thank you Franco. :D
My main concern is he wrote 15 symphonies. 2,3,7,12 are available. None of the rest are. :'(
Albany Records released some wind music of Badings:
Flute Concerto # 2 Albany 435
Concerto for Bassoon, Contrabasson and Wind Orchestra Albany 628
Both recordings feature the De Paul University Wind Ensemble
I hope CPO will continue with the Symphonies and not stop at the wonderful recording of 2, 7 and 12
Do you mean the second cello concerto?
Oops. Yes. Cello Concerto II. :-[
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This interesting disc has Badings Harpconcerto. An older recording with Bading's sister Vera ( for many years soloharpist of the Concertgebouw) existed on Olympia but is OOP.
It is a lovely work. The second movement is scored for harp and percussion only.
There must be more inspired works inhis huge output....maybe CPO manages to record all the symphonies...?
His reputation is "tarnished" by his attitude during WW2 ( he continued working)
Even so, a composer with an often original & strong voice.
See the list of his works :
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henk_Badings
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I have managed to acquire all the symphonies except 1, 4 and 14. Mainly they came from friends who recorded them off the radio or web. I just realized that since 4 is an unlucky number in Indonesia - there are no 4, 14, 24, etc. floors in their high-rises - where he was born I wonder if there he wrote a 4 and 14? Anyway the symphonies - especially the later ones - are all well worth having and getting to know.
Although I have a number of his electronic pieces, I have never been a real fan of them.
Thanks for starting a thread on this interesting Dutch composer...I had not listen to any of his music in quite some time.
I have Bading's "flute+harp" and "flute+organ" pieces on two 'various' cds. Both pieces are highlights on their respective recitals, having the requisite amount of modernity to contrast with the more traditional pieces. Other highlights include Persichetti (fl+hrp) and Martin (fl+org).
I think it is Bading's SQ No.4 (1966) which I saw on some publisher's website (the microtonal one). Apparently, this is some kind of microtonal masterpiece. If I had the druthers, I would hire a group and an engineer and go for it. Why are there not more (rich) people around here with those kinds of ideas?
This one is to be released late July:
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Concerto for Piano and Electronic Sounds (1967)
I've not been able to find any info on this work, or any sign of a CD issue.
a rare one apparently
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I quote this from the Rudolf Escher thread:
QuoteAnd, BTW, Badings isn't that well served by cpo. There were two discs of symphonies, and then the series stopped, last release were between 2 and 3 years ago if I'm to trust my impressions. What a crying shame.
Does anyone know what happened here, or perhaps there was never a plan to record more?
By the way, I didn't see it mentioned yet: there's also been a nice release on a label called Polymnie, already a few years ago also:
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All the Badings symphonies can be downloaded from The Art-Music Forum :)
Quote from: Dundonnell on November 15, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
All the Badings symphonies can be downloaded from The Art-Music Forum :)
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Quote from: Dundonnell on November 15, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
All the Badings symphonies can be downloaded from The Art-Music Forum :)
Even though I don't like downloads, in this case my curiosity might win out :). Thanks!
Since there's no biographical information on this thread about Badings thought I would supply some:
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Henk Badings was born in Java when it was still a Dutch colony; he later acknowledged the influence of Indonesian music heard in childhood as the source for his adult interest in microtonal scales. Both of Badings' parents died when he was young, and Badings' guardian activity discouraged his aspiration to become a composer. When Badings finally matriculated, it was to the Delft University of Technology to become a mining engineer. By the time Badings began to study privately with Willem Pijper, Pijper was astonished to discover that Badings already had learned the requisite tools for composing and merely needed instruction in orchestration; Badings' Symphony No. 1 (1930) was premiered while he was still a student and it would prove the first in a cycle of 11 symphonies.
When Badings graduated from Delft in 1931, he initially turned to geology and engineering, the trades for which he studied, but the desire to compose proved too strong. The 1930s and early 1940s were years in which Badings' commissions began to increase steadily, and from 1935, he began to teach as well. Badings accepted the position of head at the Royal Conservatory of the Hague from the Nazi-controlled Dutch government in 1942, replacing of the sitting director, who was Jewish; although this did not make Badings a "Nazi collaborator" in the conventional sense, this decision would have fatal ramifications concerning Badings' later career. At war's end, Badings' involvement with the Nazis was reviewed by a military tribunal and he was censured for two years, but in 1947, Badings was permitted to pursue his career as composer and teacher, much as before. Badings' Symphony No. 3 (1943) was one of the most popular European orchestral works in the postwar period and it opened many doors for him.
Always interested in the possibilities of electronic music, Badings established an electronic music studio in Eindhoven in cooperation with the Philips Corporation in 1956. He also took a strong interest in the form of radio opera, and between 1954 and 1960 produced six operas, three of them for radio, beginning with Oreste (1954); this work won the Prix d'Italia and was broadcast on the BBC. By 1960, Badings was essentially the best-known Dutch composer in the world, accepting and fulfilling commissions from the U.K. and in the United States, where he enjoyed a long relationship with the American Wind Orchestra led by Robert Boudreau. In the late '60s, however, renewed interest in Badings' ties to the Nazis surfaced, and new allegations suggested that Badings' complicity during the occupation was greater than he had acknowledged to the tribunal. It hardly affected Badings outside of Holland, where his music continued to be heard and where he held a teaching position at the Hochschüle für Musik in Stuttgart, not to mention honorary citizenship in the United States. However, the allegations permanently devastated his reputation in Holland: Badings' music was banned from Dutch radio and his music disappeared from the concert halls. Still permitted to teach, Badings' students highly valued his insights; among them was composer Ton de Leeuw. However, the longterm result of his eclipse is that Badings' name, even at the time of his centenary in 2007, remains practically unknown in Holland, even though it appears on practically all short lists of great Dutch composers.
Badings composed more than 1,000 works and wrote for practically every instrumental combination available to him. Among his electronic works, his Capriccio for solo violin and two soundtracks (1959) was a particularly significant milestone in electro-acoustic music. Badings also devised his own 31-note system of microtones based on experiences gathered from hearing music in Indonesia. Badings' music never shied away from advanced techniques, but he had an innate sense of formal development, a preference for luxuriant textures, and a taste for exoticism; his music is highly appealing, yet doesn't sound dated. Badings was an autodidact who was able to function at the highest levels of academic teaching, in itself a relatively rare situation.
[Article taken from All Music Guide]
bump... Andriessen and Badings...
Resurrecting old threads that only seem to matter to curious people (like me). ;D
Lately I've been discovering this composer (who is new to me) through his symphonies, chiefly from the CPO releases. Moreover, I've been able to download nearly all the symphonies that are don't have any commercial recording from another classical music forum (except No. 6 whose sound quality is godawful). Hopefully CPO will continue this series because it really deserves it.
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Anyone who enjoys Hindemith, Honegger or composers who managed strong accents or rhythms in their styles could like him. In spite of his style became very modernist as his works progressed, his idiom is pretty approachable overall, and these symphonies prove it. The orchestration is another remarkable feature in which Badings stands out. Even there are some cinematic passages in some of his first symphonies that draw the attention as well.
So far, the most fascinating symphony for me has been the No. 12 Symphonische Klangfiguren. A very singular work full of arresting ideas, mystery and coruscating orchestration, all in 18 minutes of stunning music.
Symphonies 4-5 great work well played!
Hmm, interesting...will have to explore. Love Hindemith and Honegger so if he's anything like that, will enjoy.
I have the first 2 CPO discs (symph 4-5, 3, 10, 14) and a different version of symph no 2. A very fine composer indeed.
Glad to see more curious members have enjoyed this composer. A very 'cerebral' composer not devoid of stirring appealing ideas either.
For future connoisseurs it will also be a fruitful and promising discovery!
I think Johann Nepomuk David (1895-1977) may also appeal to fans of Badings and Andriessen. There have been 2 discs of his symphonies on CPO so far:
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TD: Listened to the Badings disc with Symphonies 3, 10 & 14. Did not enjoy this one very much.
New release (opera?)
https://www.operapassion.com/cd1945600.html
Quote from: Roy Bland on November 30, 2019, 06:58:27 PM
New release (opera?)
https://www.operapassion.com/cd1945600.html
It's a 1954 recording from
Orestes, but no idea about that piece.
Quote from: SymphonicAddict on November 16, 2019, 02:39:28 PM
Glad to see more curious members have enjoyed this composer. A very 'cerebral' composer not devoid of stirring appealing ideas either.
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His Octet is played beautifully by the famous Vienna Octet. Badings is special and this work is the proof. A magical moment with a new theme, I think the final movement - but need to check, which completely takes the listener by surprise with its beauty and lifts the work from very good to great.
Quote from: Irons on December 03, 2019, 11:24:35 PM
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His Octet is played beautifully by the famous Vienna Octet. Badings is special and this work is the proof. A magical moment with a new theme, I think the final movement - but need to check, which completely takes the listener by surprise with its beauty and lifts the work from very good to great.
Enticing to say the least. Thanks for mentioning it, but seems that there is no any recording on CD.
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on December 04, 2019, 12:19:00 PM
Enticing to say the least. Thanks for mentioning it, but seems that there is no any recording on CD.
Really! That is poor from Decca - or whoever is in control of the back catalogue these days - Badings is not a household name but The Vienna Octet are. Nothing for it, you will have to invest in a turntable. ;)
I have it.
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Quote from: Ratliff on December 05, 2019, 04:14:40 PM
I have it.
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We have the Aussies to thank for that, then.
Thanks for bringing it to light.
Quote from: Irons on December 06, 2019, 12:04:09 AM
We have the Aussies to thank for that, then.
Thanks for bringing it to light.
+1
He saved me a lot of money. ;D
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The Symphony No. 9 for strings is an incredible work and a worthy addition to the canon. A piece full of rhythm and striking sonorities. I wish it were longer (lasting 18 min. long).
I saw a Henk Badings CD at a bookstore the other day, it was Vol. 15 of a survey of his complete works on the Bridge label. I was impressed that Badings had written enough music to fill at least 15 discs.
Anyway, I'm curious now. Where to start? Should I go back and get that CD?
Quote from: vers la flamme on May 23, 2022, 03:15:29 AM
I saw a Henk Badings CD at a bookstore the other day, it was Vol. 15 of a survey of his complete works on the Bridge label. I was impressed that Badings had written enough music to fill at least 15 discs.
Anyway, I'm curious now. Where to start? Should I go back and get that CD?
IMHO was CPO that should record entire orchestral works and they haven't done it.
Quote from: vers la flamme on May 23, 2022, 03:15:29 AM
I saw a Henk Badings CD at a bookstore the other day, it was Vol. 15 of a survey of his complete works on the Bridge label. I was impressed that Badings had written enough music to fill at least 15 discs.
Anyway, I'm curious now. Where to start? Should I go back and get that CD?
Are you sure it's the Bridge label? I can't find any site that has any of these CDs for sale. Also, Bridge Records' own website doesn't mention anything about this series either.
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 23, 2022, 06:43:24 AM
Are you sure it's the Bridge label? I can't find any site that has any of these CDs for sale. Also, Bridge Records' own website doesn't mention anything about this series either.
Could have sworn it was, but apparently not. I'll go back and figure it out one of these days, because now I'm curious too.
Edit: I figured it out. It was not Henk Badings at all, but Poul Ruders. Not sure how I mixed them up.
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I listened to six or seven parts on YT of that Maria release, but that's not my cup of tea. His instrumental work is much better IMO.