Title: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Does and Avatar affect your perception of the poster? I think it surely does.
The only avatar I have previously used on this site is the one attached, which is Pasquale Amato's portrayal of Scarpia. For a while I have not used it and have had no avatar, and I put it back recently. I must say that people seem to interpret my posts as more hostile when I have the Amato-Scarpia avatar visible, presumably transferring their perception of the picture to my posts. This is not good, so I have replaced it with a painting I like by Walkowitz. I may replace it with something simpler, which looks better at reduced size.
I also think my impression of fellow posters is colored by the avatars chosen. I generally get a positive impression from avatars that contain interesting cultural references, like a bit of architecture, a painting. Knight, Marc and Drasko make a stimulating impression. Composer portraits (especially pompous looking ones) are stuffy and off-putting. On the far negative extreme, Greg's succession of submissive child-woman Manga pictures made it very difficult to take anything he posted here seriously, and the latest one (the cackling animated gif) put me over the edge. He is now the first and only person ever put on my ignore list here, just to suppress that avatar.
The only avatar I have previously used on this site is the one attached, which is Pasquale Amato's portrayal of Scarpia. For a while I have not used it and have had no avatar, and I put it back recently. I must say that people seem to interpret my posts as more hostile when I have the Amato-Scarpia avatar visible, presumably transferring their perception of the picture to my posts. This is not good, so I have replaced it with a painting I like by Walkowitz. I may replace it with something simpler, which looks better at reduced size.
I also think my impression of fellow posters is colored by the avatars chosen. I generally get a positive impression from avatars that contain interesting cultural references, like a bit of architecture, a painting. Knight, Marc and Drasko make a stimulating impression. Composer portraits (especially pompous looking ones) are stuffy and off-putting. On the far negative extreme, Greg's succession of submissive child-woman Manga pictures made it very difficult to take anything he posted here seriously, and the latest one (the cackling animated gif) put me over the edge. He is now the first and only person ever put on my ignore list here, just to suppress that avatar.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 09:38:01 AM
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 09:38:01 AM
I don't remember avatars ever colored my impression of a poster. But the signature line quote have. I particular remember a couple that quoted another poster's supposedly negative or "brainless" post. That is like perpetuating a fight whenever he posted. I did not like that at all.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Verena on June 08, 2010, 09:42:32 AM
Post by: Verena on June 08, 2010, 09:42:32 AM
That's a really interesting question. In my case, it seems to me that I am indeed influenced by avatars as long as they picture human beings - or perhaps animals which I connect to in some way. As far as Greg's or your current avatar are concerned, the avatar does not affect my perception of the posts at all - probably since they don't picture human beings. I actually more or less ignore them and focus on the posts themselves.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Franco on June 08, 2010, 09:48:26 AM
Post by: Franco on June 08, 2010, 09:48:26 AM
I have my forum preferences set to not display avatars, and for the most part haven't used one myself.
The text of a post is all I'm interested in.
The text of a post is all I'm interested in.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 09:54:46 AM
I think - as you observe above, Scarpia - it is inevitable that one is subconsciously affected by every stimulus accompanying another stimulus; and that certainly holds for avatars and posts. More so when it becomes a consistent association.
Likewise, as Paul points out, with the signatures. Or even, say, the bolding of Paul's name I just did, which might associate me with Karl Henning and his opinions, even if my use of it is an independently-justified adoption (i.e. I'm not also adopting his views).
For better or for worse, this is part of the communication game. As is the fact that a certain association can mean different things to different people: again, using my own example, I'm sure there have been at least a few people to have found the Karajan quote in my signature off-putting, as a token of posturing, expressing my approval of a certain attitude, or aesthetic that they dislike.
So, yes, avatars matter, almost certainly even for those who claim they don't! Unless they turn them off, like Franco.
Whether they matter more than other things in one's estimation of a poster, though, is obviously a different matter.
Likewise, as Paul points out, with the signatures. Or even, say, the bolding of Paul's name I just did, which might associate me with Karl Henning and his opinions, even if my use of it is an independently-justified adoption (i.e. I'm not also adopting his views).
For better or for worse, this is part of the communication game. As is the fact that a certain association can mean different things to different people: again, using my own example, I'm sure there have been at least a few people to have found the Karajan quote in my signature off-putting, as a token of posturing, expressing my approval of a certain attitude, or aesthetic that they dislike.
So, yes, avatars matter, almost certainly even for those who claim they don't! Unless they turn them off, like Franco.
Whether they matter more than other things in one's estimation of a poster, though, is obviously a different matter.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Verena on June 08, 2010, 11:33:46 AM
Post by: Verena on June 08, 2010, 11:33:46 AM
QuoteI think - as you observe above, Scarpia - it is inevitable that one is subconsciously affected by every stimulus accompanying another stimulus..
I don't believe so. I think we necessarily have to be selective in order to survive - and even the question whether one is subconsciously affected by a stimulus depends on whether you have been sensitivized to this stimulus before. But this is just my intuition, based hopefully on some shreds of half-knowledge that I cannot piece together any more at the moment.
But the important question is really whether a stimulus - even if you are subconsciously affected by it - affects your perception of the overall "phenomenon" (in this case, the poster). And this question can be answered in the negative, I think. It has been shown that people sometimes do not even recognize what one would consider the most egregiously noticeable/memorable stimuli. For instance, in a study by Simons and Chabris (1999) "... participants counted basketball passes by players wearing white shirts and ignored passes made by players wearing black. Under these conditions, approximately 50% of observers failed to notice when a person in a gorilla suit entered the display, stopped and faced the camera, thumped its chest, and exited on the far side of the display."
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Inattentional_blindness
So obviously here is a case where a very strong stimulus has not affected people's perception of the scene, because they did not attend to it - whether they somehow subconsciouly noticed something is not really crucial to answering the original poster's question.
However, I also feel that it is likely that one is indeed affected by avatars in many (or possibly all) cases, but this is probably not something that can be taken for granted. As I said I feel that non-animate avatars - especially ones I cannot make head or tail of - do not really affect my perception of posters. I might be wrong, of course. So for me this is rather an open question for which I'd be curious to know the answer.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 12:20:04 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: Verena on June 08, 2010, 11:33:46 AM
I don't believe so. I think we necessarily have to be selective in order to survive - and even the question whether one is subconsciously affected by a stimulus depends on whether you have been sensitivized to this stimulus before. But this is just my intuition, based hopefully on some shreds of half-knowledge that I cannot piece together any more at the moment.
But the important question is really whether a stimulus - even if you are subconsciously affected by it - affects your perception of the overall "phenomenon" (in this case, the poster). And this question can be answered in the negative, I think. It has been shown that people sometimes do not even recognize what one would consider the most egregiously noticeable/memorable stimuli. For instance, in a study by Simons and Chabris (1999) "... participants counted basketball passes by players wearing white shirts and ignored passes made by players wearing black. Under these conditions, approximately 50% of observers failed to notice when a person in a gorilla suit entered the display, stopped and faced the camera, thumped its chest, and exited on the far side of the display."
http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Inattentional_blindness
So obviously here is a case where a very strong stimulus has not affected people's perception of the scene, because they did not attend to it - whether they somehow subconsciouly noticed something is not really crucial to answering the original poster's question.
However, I also feel that it is likely that one is indeed affected by avatars in many (or possibly all) cases, but this is probably not something that can be taken for granted. As I said I feel that non-animate avatars - especially ones I cannot make head or tail of - do not really affect my perception of posters. I might be wrong, of course. So for me this is rather an open question for which I'd be curious to know the answer.
With your permission, I'd like to try and answer that without being 'that annoying guy who lectures everyone'. Hopefully I'll succeed. :)
(And that's definitely not a given!)
The Simons and Chabris study you quote above is a study of attention. The question here is not whether our attention is diverted to a poster's avatar - which, you are correct, might not at all be the case - but whether the avatar influences our attitude towards them.
I am sadly not nearly the super-genius kind of student, who can instantly quote infinite series of studies on any and every area of their field. But it has certainly been found, repeatedly, that when it comes to forming our attitudes, subconscious stimuli (things we don't pay attention to) can often be as important, if not more important that what we consciously realise we know, have observed, or care about.
It's just one of those 'strange' facts about the way our brains process information. :D
If you wish to discuss this more in-depth, I would be happy to do so - but I'm not quite sure Scarpia would welcome psycho-jargon here.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Todd on June 08, 2010, 12:20:59 PM
Post by: Todd on June 08, 2010, 12:20:59 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Nope.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:30:23 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:30:23 PM
Quote from: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 12:20:04 PMIf you wish to discuss this more in-depth, I would be happy to do so - but I'm not quite sure Scarpia would welcome psycho-jargon here.
No particular objection to psych-jargon, although less jargon is normally preferred.
Interesting that some refuse to consider the possibility that they are affected by these things. That does not mean that they are not affected by them, in fact. If there is someone out there writing their dissertation on internet discussion boards, they could obviously to a study by making identical posts with different "avatars" and see if the reaction is different.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:30:23 PM
If there is someone out there writing their dissertation on internet discussion boards, they could obviously to a study by making identical posts with different "avatars" and see if the reaction is different.
I should do that study. To begin with, I should change my avatar from Kimi to Confucius and see if people take me more seriously.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:37:13 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:37:13 PM
Quote from: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
I should do that study. To begin with, I should change my avatar from Kimi to Confucius and see if people take me more seriously.
Mozart is a really, really bad composer. (http://www.sbarnabas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sacredheart.jpg)
--------------------
Ok, let's see what happens. 8)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Josquin des Prez on June 08, 2010, 12:44:59 PM
Post by: Josquin des Prez on June 08, 2010, 12:44:59 PM
I chose this Avatar to show off my interest in Renaissance music, of which until very recently i was the premier authority in this forum, before my brain melted into gelatinous goo.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Josquin des Prez on June 08, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
Post by: Josquin des Prez on June 08, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
Quote from: springrite on June 08, 2010, 09:38:01 AM
I don't remember avatars ever colored my impression of a poster.
What about Grieg?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:49:56 PM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on June 08, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
What about Grieg?
I don't even remember his avatars. I do remember some of his posts, though.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Verena on June 08, 2010, 12:54:42 PM
Post by: Verena on June 08, 2010, 12:54:42 PM
QuoteThe Simons and Chabris study you quote above is a study of attention. The question here is not whether our attention is diverted to a poster's avatar - which, you are correct, might not at all be the case - but whether the avatar influences our attitude towards them.
I am sadly not nearly the super-genius kind of student, who can instantly quote infinite series of studies on any and every area of their field. But it has certainly been found, repeatedly, that when it comes to forming our attitudes, subconscious stimuli (things we don't pay attention to) can often be as important, if not more important that what we consciously realise we know, have observed, or care about.
It's just one of those 'strange' facts about the way our brains process information.
I see. I think I get your point. And my position is actually not that much different, but I may have phrased my "argument" in a very infelicitous way. I just wanted to point out that it is not necessarily always the case that one's avatar subconsciously (or consciously) influences one's attitudes - even though it is certainly (at least) very often the case (it dawns on me slowly but surely that this is not a very substantial point to make ..) :-[
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Todd on June 08, 2010, 01:03:44 PM
Post by: Todd on June 08, 2010, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:30:23 PM
Interesting that some refuse to consider the possibility that they are affected by these things. That does not mean that they are not affected by them, in fact.
Some people are not affected because they separate superfluous things like posts from even more superfluous things like avatars. That's the category I place myself in.
Take Sean. Many of his avatars have been innocuous enough (I can't remember them all), but his posts ranged from innocuous comments to horrid slop. My impression of him, to the extent I truly have formed one, has been formed based on his posts.
What about forums that don't have avatars? In such cases, my impressions of the posters are also based solely on the posts.
And what about users who regularly change avatars? How does one establish an impression of a moving target? Once again, posts only.
I must also note that the impressions I form are of online personae rather than the posters themselves. I don't know anyone I interact with on forums and so cannot conclude what they are really like. I still distinguish between the virtual and the real.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Szykneij on June 08, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Post by: Szykneij on June 08, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
The avatar definitely affects my initial perception of the poster because the user has purposely selected that avatar as a visual representation of him or herself on the forum. It generally catches my eye before the user name, so if the avatar is juvenile, hostile, interesting, inspirational, or whatever, I tend to (at least subconsciously) regard the poster in that light unless the post itself changes that perception.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: bhodges on June 08, 2010, 01:41:40 PM
Post by: bhodges on June 08, 2010, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Szykniej on June 08, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
The avatar definitely affects my initial perception of the poster because the user has purposely selected that avatar as a visual representation of him or herself on the forum. It generally catches my eye before the user name, so if the avatar is juvenile, hostile, interesting, inspirational, or whatever, I tend to (at least subconsciously) regard the poster in that light unless the post itself changes that perception.
Very clearly put, Tony! As a visually-oriented type, I am much the same way, and figure that the poster has chosen an image for a reason (sometimes with unintended, or unsuccessful, side effects). It's the online equivalent of including an illustration with a story.
--Bruce
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: DavidW on June 08, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
Post by: DavidW on June 08, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
I am influenced by avatars Scarpia, but I think in the opposite way that you are. I view paintings and photographs as impersonal, I think that you might as well not have an avatar if you go with that route. In the middle are the composer portraits (like I have) which tells you something about the poster: they really like that composer! It's highly appropriate. And then avatars like Sarge has or Greg are personal because it tells you something about them, they are probably the best.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: drogulus on June 08, 2010, 02:17:04 PM
Post by: drogulus on June 08, 2010, 02:17:04 PM
If an avatar has an effect it must be a small one. If you wanted to have a big effect you'd have to make it offensive in some way. I can't think of a single example.
I got tired of changing avatars (it was fun for awhile) so I decided to settle on one that represented some aspect of my interests.
An obvious avatar choice is a favorite composer or performer. I don't want to be associated with any individual artist. Using an old picture of me playing a guitar seems like a fairly neutral and perhaps interesting method of alluding to my own interests without giving an impression of monomania. I let my posts do that, or not. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: vandermolen on June 08, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
Post by: vandermolen on June 08, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
M forever's shark was memorable!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
Quote from: DavidW on June 08, 2010, 01:56:13 PM
I am influenced by avatars Scarpia, but I think in the opposite way that you are. I view paintings and photographs as impersonal, I think that you might as well not have an avatar if you go with that route. In the middle are the composer portraits (like I have) which tells you something about the poster: they really like that composer! It's highly appropriate. And then avatars like Sarge has or Greg are personal because it tells you something about them, they are probably the best.
I find the "cultural reference" avatar to be the most evocative of the character of the person who chose it. For instance, I notice knight usually has an architectural detail of a graceful public building. This suggests to me a respect for cultural traditions, and for things of beauty and grandeur. Bhodges has an odd piece of avant-guard furniture. There is a taste for elegance, but a bit more iconoclastic than knight. These avatars give me the illusion, at least, of having some additional insight into the posters persona. Having a generic picture of Mozart, or whatever, strikes me as unimaginative, redundant, and somewhat presumptious, as though the poster claims a preeminant claim to that composer on the board. Anyway, just my impression.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:35:16 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:35:16 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on June 08, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
M forever's shark was memorable!
Yes, I recall. I think I changed mine to this
(http://www.webalice.it/edmtromb/blog/jaws0.jpg)
with the tag l line "I think you are going to need a bigger boat."
The one time M. improved of me, briefly.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 02:51:49 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
I find the "cultural reference" avatar to be the most evocative of the character of the person who chose it. For instance, I notice knight usually has an architectural detail of a graceful public building. This suggests to me a respect for cultural traditions, and for things of beauty and grandeur. Bhodges has an odd piece of avant-guard furniture. There is a taste for elegance, but a bit more iconoclastic than knight. These avatars give me the illusion, at least, of having some additional insight into the posters persona. Having a generic picture of Mozart, or whatever, strikes me as unimaginative, redundant, and somewhat presumptious, as though the poster claims a preeminant claim to that composer on the board. Anyway, just my impression.
Out of curiosity: what if a composer picture is also artistically interesting? Say, one of those Brahms pictures (you know which ones I mean). Or that Moussorgsky where he looks - realistically - like a drunkard. What if one where to use that?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Quote from: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 02:51:49 PM
Out of curiosity: what if a composer picture is also artistically interesting? Say, one of those Brahms pictures (you know which ones I mean). Or that Moussorgsky where he looks - realistically - like a drunkard. What if one where to use that?
It is the formal portraits which imply reverence that strike me as tiresome. Your avatar, with the caricatures of Mahler, for instance is in another category. Now Antoine Marchand confuses me. The formal portraits of people that, I have no idea who they are.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
Now Antoine Marchand confuses me. The formal portraits of people that, I have no idea who they are.
Actually, if Antoine is reading this: I would also appreciate a caption. In general, I am not bothered by formal portraits, though I do see your point about their being formulaic. But as a rule, I do prefer to know who they are!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
Quote from: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 03:15:58 PM
Actually, if Antoine is reading this: I would also appreciate a caption. In general, I am not bothered by formal portraits, though I do see your point about their being formulaic. But as a rule, I do prefer to know who they are!
Yesterday, during a conversation with Premont and other people (included Scarpia) that was probably the distant origin of this thread:
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 07, 2010, 08:36:12 AM
... I frequently change my avatar: Roberto Bolaño, Jorge Luis Borges, G.K. Chesterton and currently George Santayana. I suppose it would be a kind of homage, if my posts had some value. :D Surprinsingly, I have never choosen a composer or a musician, probably because my favorites are taken: Bach, Haydn (well, Gurn IS that avatar), Brahms (Q and, lately, Brahmsian), etc. Sometimes I have considered Leonhardt, but then I thought that that avatar was yours. ;)
:)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
Yesterday, during a conversation with Premont and other people (included Scarpia) that was probably the distant origin of this thread:
:)
Yes, I recall there was mention of Santayana. I have no distinct idea of who he was (I will have to google him, I guess).
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 03:51:14 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 03:51:14 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
Yesterday, during a conversation with Premont and other people (included Scarpia) that was probably the distant origin of this thread:
:)
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
Quote from: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 03:51:14 PM
Thank you. :)
The truth is that, in general, I have no problems with any kind of avatar. Personally, I think the choice of an avatar as a kind of game that I usually use to recall some people that I admire. Do I like formal portraits? I would say yes. In fact, I have noticed that interesting people often produce pictures that might be interesting even for those who do not know who is that person:
(http://claudiovergara.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/jorge-luis-borges.jpg)
Jorge Luis Borges, the blind bard
Jorge Luis Borges, the blind bard
(http://rposdata.com/pd/images/stories/roberto-bolano.jpg)
Roberto Bolaño, L'enfant terrible
Roberto Bolaño, L'enfant terrible
(http://www.pmaria.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/chesterton.jpg)
G.K. Chesterton, the polemicist
G.K. Chesterton, the polemicist
... and George Santayana, the philosopher who looks like a banker (well, he was professor at Harvard :)).
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 08, 2010, 04:40:25 PM
Post by: greg on June 08, 2010, 04:40:25 PM
You know what's funny is how on this forum, you get so many composer avatars, and on an anime forum, you get nearly 90% anime avatars... :D
and for some reason I have anime avatars on here and for the anime forum I just joined (though i don't post often- kinda hard to get into it) I have a music-related avatar. Why?! :-\
(maybe it's just from my strong distaste for being part of large crowds?)
But to me, avatars don't really affect my impression of a poster that much. Sydney Grew and Rod Corkin can be pretty bizarre no matter what avatars they have. Rob Newman didn't even have an avatar (did he?) and.... :'(
I'm thinking about changing my avatar to Muhammed.
and for some reason I have anime avatars on here and for the anime forum I just joined (though i don't post often- kinda hard to get into it) I have a music-related avatar. Why?! :-\
(maybe it's just from my strong distaste for being part of large crowds?)
But to me, avatars don't really affect my impression of a poster that much. Sydney Grew and Rod Corkin can be pretty bizarre no matter what avatars they have. Rob Newman didn't even have an avatar (did he?) and.... :'(
I'm thinking about changing my avatar to Muhammed.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: KevinP on June 08, 2010, 04:44:48 PM
Post by: KevinP on June 08, 2010, 04:44:48 PM
Yes, and when people change their avatar, they shouldn't assume everyone will notice that they are the same person. I usually only notice names if I'm replying to them or if I think the words I'm reading sound like something someone would say. For example, I'm often reading a post and say, 'This sounds like something Bogey would say' and only then do I look at the name.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Sydney Grew on June 08, 2010, 04:55:44 PM
Post by: Sydney Grew on June 08, 2010, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 04:13:58 PM… and George Santayana, the philosopher who looks like a banker (well, he was professor at Harvard ).Let it not be forgotten that he was also, as has been the case with nearly all truly great men, a homo-sexualist.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: jowcol on June 08, 2010, 04:57:36 PM
Post by: jowcol on June 08, 2010, 04:57:36 PM
Not sure if you all know the story, but my Avatar is a photo of me on a very special day-- Dec 26, 2004, when we were visiting Thailand. (My son is next to me) We were inland and pretty much out of touch, and this picture was probably taken about 5 hours after the Tsunami hit. It wasn't until we were heading back that evening that my nephew-in-law started picking up all of these frantic calls on his cell phone trying to see if we were okay.
Another friend of my wife's panicked, and so we were listed amount the missing on the CNN website for a couple of days, which required a lot of emails just to let pretty much everyone I knew that I was not dead. That didn't stop Fox news from dispatching a camera crew to my neighborhood to interview my neighbors about our grisly deaths.
I must admit I'm tempted to use the Repin portrait of Mussorgsky, but I don't seem able to replace this one. Yet.
Another friend of my wife's panicked, and so we were listed amount the missing on the CNN website for a couple of days, which required a lot of emails just to let pretty much everyone I knew that I was not dead. That didn't stop Fox news from dispatching a camera crew to my neighborhood to interview my neighbors about our grisly deaths.
I must admit I'm tempted to use the Repin portrait of Mussorgsky, but I don't seem able to replace this one. Yet.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 08, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Post by: greg on June 08, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: Sydney Grew on June 08, 2010, 04:55:44 PMYes, that is such an important fact. We're glad you reminded us.
Let it not be forgotten that he was also, as has been the case with nearly all truly great men, a homo-sexualist.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 05:03:54 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 05:03:54 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 04:13:58 PM(http://claudiovergara.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/jorge-luis-borges.jpg)
Jorge Luis Borges, the blind bard(http://rposdata.com/pd/images/stories/roberto-bolano.jpg)
Roberto Bolaño, L'enfant terrible(http://www.pmaria.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/chesterton.jpg)
G.K. Chesterton, the polemicist
Well, of those three, the first and the third I know nothing of, unfortunately. The middle one, Bolaño, wrote what I would describe as the worst book I ever read.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Franco on June 08, 2010, 05:11:17 PM
Post by: Franco on June 08, 2010, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
Yes, I recall there was mention of Santayana. I have no distinct idea of who he was (I will have to google him, I guess).
Santayana, I think, is who said, "Those who cannot learn from the past are doomed to repeat it." But beyond that, I don't know much about him either - other than he is a good guitar player.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Keemun on June 08, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
Post by: Keemun on June 08, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
My perception of a poster is often affected by their avatar, even more so when the poster is not well known to me. Scowling, sour-faced composers (or writers, artists, etc.) give me the impression of a poster who is likely complaining about something or looking for an argument. Scarpia's former avatar is a perfect example. And then there are those posters who have evocative avatars for the sake of garnering attention. One that comes to mind (I have momentarily forgotten the poster's name) is the avatar showing the backside of a naked man on a bed about to shoot what looked to be a dildo-tipped arrow. (I used AdBlock Plus to block that image from appearing in my browser, but it did nothing for the image already burned into my mind.) Posters without avatars seem more difficult to relate to because they give no non-textual clue as to their personality.
I have no idea what my avatar conveys to people. Perhaps that I am a tea-loving dork? So be it. 8)
I have no idea what my avatar conveys to people. Perhaps that I am a tea-loving dork? So be it. 8)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: Keemun on June 08, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
One that comes to mind (I have momentarily forgotten the poster's name) is the avatar showing the backside of a naked man on a bed about to shoot what looked to be a dildo-tipped arrow. (I used AdBlock Plus to block that image from appearing in my browser, but it did nothing for the image already burned into my mind.)
That's the fellow who wants to return to the womb. I think the avatar is the least of his problems. :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Keemun on June 08, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
Post by: Keemun on June 08, 2010, 05:36:52 PM
Quote from: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
That's the fellow who wants to return to the womb. I think the avatar is the least of his problems. :D
That's the one. ;)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 08, 2010, 05:43:57 PM
Post by: Bogey on June 08, 2010, 05:43:57 PM
Well then, I will reconsider before switching to this one:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2989132936_0dfce387e3.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2989132936_0dfce387e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 05:48:47 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 05:48:47 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 05:03:54 PM
Well, of those three, the first and the third I know nothing of, unfortunately. The middle one, Bolaño, wrote what I would describe as the worst book I ever read.
I can live with that, Scarpia :), but sorry if I have some observations about the logical aspects of your reply:
First, I was talking about people (in this case writers) that I admire. It's not necessary that you also admire (or know) them.
(Second) But the fact is that I was precisely saying that sometimes it is not necessary to know the people in a picture to enjoy that picture or appreciate some aspects about it (well, I suppose that's the meaning of the art of the photography).
Third, Chesterton and Borges are two of the most important writers of the twentieth century. Therefore, if you do not know them, I easily deduce that you are not interested in literature at all, which –for sure- is a legitimate choice.
Fourth, Roberto Bolaño (dead rather young) is the author of one the best novels written in Spanish during the twentieth century: Los detectives salvajes, quite unfortunately titled in English The Savage Detectives. Personally, I don't know bad texts written by Bolaño, but it is clear that not all readers enjoy the same things and bad translations are a fact. Well, my own atrocious English is a fact. :D
8)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 08, 2010, 05:56:55 PM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 08, 2010, 05:56:55 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 05:48:47 PM
I can live with that, Scarpia :), but sorry if I have some observations about the logical aspects of your reply:
First, I was talking about people (in this case writers) that I admire. It's not necessary that you also admire (or know) them.
(Second) But the fact is that I was precisely saying that sometimes it is not necessary to know the people in a picture to enjoy that picture or appreciate some aspects about it (well, I suppose that's the meaning of the art of the photography).
Third, Chesterton and Borges are two of the most important writers of the twentieth century. Therefore, if you do not know them, I easily deduce that you are not interested in literature at all, which –for sure- is a legitimate choice.
Fourth, Roberto Bolaño (dead rather young) is the author of one the best novels written in Spanish during the twentieth century: Los detectives salvajes, quite unfortunately titled in English The Savage Detectives. Personally, I don't know bad texts written by Bolaño, but it is clear that not all readers enjoy the same things and bad translations are a fact. Well, my own atrocious English is a fact. :D
8)
I didn't know any of those men by picture, but all of them by reputation or their works. I always did find them interesting, as you say, that is the art side of photography.
To the original question; I find it to be incomprehensible that people could NOT be influenced by an avatar, even if it was not the intent of the poster to influence someone else, just to please himself. I have only used 2 in the last 6 years, and I suppose that I actually do seem to represent something about me (in this case my taste in music and my enjoyment of a pun). But I never thought about that going in, I only put something that I liked. I see no reason to change; I'm not likely to become a Wagner fan and need some representation of Little Dickie... :D
8)
PS - Keemun, I thought yours was a tire on the beach. I didn't think that represented you at all... ;)
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 08, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Post by: greg on June 08, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 05:48:47 PMAnd I didn't even know until now that you are a non-native English speaker... :D
Well, my own atrocious English is a fact. :D
Quote from: Renfield on June 08, 2010, 05:27:13 PMI wonder if he ever got that Group Sex in London. :-\
That's the fellow who wants to return to the womb. I think the avatar is the least of his problems. :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 08, 2010, 05:59:35 PM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 08, 2010, 05:59:35 PM
Quote from: Greg on June 08, 2010, 05:57:53 PM
I wonder if he ever got that Group Sex in London. :-\
You don't suppose that he would want that cup of coffee with Dmitri, do you? :-\
;D
8)
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 08, 2010, 05:48:47 PMFourth, Roberto Bolaño (dead rather young) is the author of one the best novels written in Spanish during the twentieth century: Los detectives salvajes, quite unfortunately titled in English The Savage Detectives. Personally, I don't know bad texts written by Bolaño, but it is clear that not all readers enjoy the same things and bad translations are a fact. Well, my own atrocious English is a fact. :D
I read his novel 2666 (or maybe it was another number). It was composed of a series of stores, once of which consisted of many hundreds of pages with little more than graphic descriptions of mutilated female bodies discovered in some Mexican border town. I was persuaded to keep reading because I thought there would be a point somewhere. I never found it. There were parts of the book that I felt had merit, but the summed experience was strongly negative for me, and a large amount of time spent on something I ultimately felt was worthless. I won't be reading anything else by this author.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: kishnevi on June 08, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Post by: kishnevi on June 08, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 09:23:53 AM
Composer portraits (especially pompous looking ones) are stuffy and off-putting.
Speaking as someone who uses a composer portrait for his avatar--I use it because I think a music themed avatar is optimal on a forum devoted to music; because the supply of music them icons I have at the moment is fairly limited; because Mahler is--not precisely my favorite composer--but the composer with whom I most personally identify. Us neurotic Jews have to stick up for each other :) And also because, while there is no family relationship between us, beyond the fact that all Jews are related to each other if you go back far enough in time, Mahler, as caught in this photo, bears a vague resemblence to myself.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: kishnevi on June 08, 2010, 07:51:32 PM
Speaking as someone who uses a composer portrait for his avatar--I use it because I think a music themed avatar is optimal on a forum devoted to music; because the supply of music them icons I have at the moment is fairly limited; because Mahler is--not precisely my favorite composer--but the composer with whom I most personally identify. Us neurotic Jews have to stick up for each other :) And also because, while there is no family relationship between us, beyond the fact that all Jews are related to each other if you go back far enough in time, Mahler, as caught in this photo, bears a vague resemblence to myself.
I'm not saying you shouldn't use it. I'm just commenting on the impression it makes on me, essentially a lack of imagination--just what you're describing. When I see your icon, I have on impression "this person is obsessed with Maher to the exclusion of all else."
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 10:18:59 PM
Post by: springrite on June 08, 2010, 10:18:59 PM
It is natural, conciously or subconciously, to form opinions or biases based on very little meaningful information, avatars included. I always feel that if I am affected in such a way, be it an avatar or a username, it says more about me than about the other person.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 03:57:31 AM
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 03:57:31 AM
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=24944;type=avatar)
Usually I used a Bogart one, but after finding this Schroeder and having George crop it to size I have not changed. Probably my longest standing one and I have no plans of changing in the future. With him holding a Brahms' album, my love for vinyl, what he is saying (with which I concur), and my sheer enjoyment of the Peanuts cartoon strip, this one was a perfect fit for me. The only reason I have kept "Bogey" is to curtail confusion with a name change.
Usually I used a Bogart one, but after finding this Schroeder and having George crop it to size I have not changed. Probably my longest standing one and I have no plans of changing in the future. With him holding a Brahms' album, my love for vinyl, what he is saying (with which I concur), and my sheer enjoyment of the Peanuts cartoon strip, this one was a perfect fit for me. The only reason I have kept "Bogey" is to curtail confusion with a name change.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 04:05:13 AM
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 04:05:13 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on June 08, 2010, 12:44:59 PM
. . . of which until very recently i was the premier authority in this forum . . . .
Such a tediously overrated virtue, humility, n'est-ce pas?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Keemun on June 09, 2010, 05:52:11 AM
Post by: Keemun on June 09, 2010, 05:52:11 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 08, 2010, 05:56:55 PM
PS - Keemun, I thought yours was a tire on the beach. I didn't think that represented you at all... ;)
"It's a cup of Keemun tea, of course." ;)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 05:56:34 AM
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 05:56:34 AM
Can't be bad!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 07:09:07 AM
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 07:09:07 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
I find the "cultural reference" avatar to be the most evocative of the character of the person who chose it. For instance, I notice knight usually has an architectural detail of a graceful public building. This suggests to me a respect for cultural traditions, and for things of beauty and grandeur. Bhodges has an odd piece of avant-guard furniture. There is a taste for elegance, but a bit more iconoclastic than knight. These avatars give me the illusion, at least, of having some additional insight into the posters persona. Having a generic picture of Mozart, or whatever, strikes me as unimaginative, redundant, and somewhat presumptious, as though the poster claims a preeminant claim to that composer on the board. Anyway, just my impression.
While I don't mind photos of composers (personally, I'd be hard-pressed to pick just one), I like avatars that are more obliquely related to classical music, or that show a little bit of another avocation. I assume that my being on a classical music board speaks to a love of that product, so I want to show just a little bit of something else in which I'm interested.
--Bruce
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 07:28:51 AM
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 07:28:51 AM
Quote from: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 07:09:07 AM
While I don't mind photos of composers (personally, I'd be hard-pressed to pick just one), I like avatars that are more obliquely related to classical music, or that show a little bit of another avocation. I assume that my being on a classical music board speaks to a love of that product, so I want to show just a little bit of something else in which I'm interested.
--Bruce
I am not a fan of modern art, Bruce, but due to your well chosen avatars I have come to appreciate some of the work out there.
Many memorable:
There was one with radio tubes.
Another with cubes.
And I enjoyed the recent house one.
I do not recall their names, but enjoyed them. Keep them coming, Bruce. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 07:41:17 AM
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 07:41:17 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 07:28:51 AM
I am not a fan of modern art, Bruce, but due to your well chosen avatars I have come to appreciate some of the work out there.
Many memorable:
There was one with radio tubes.
Another with cubes.
And I enjoyed the recent house one.
I do not recall their names, but enjoyed them. Keep them coming, Bruce. :)
Thanks, Bill! I'm just a very visually-oriented guy in general. Love some of the opera posters designed by Polish artists floating around, although many of them don't look so good when reduced to a postage-stamp size.
And I'll repeat some of those you mentioned! That tube lamp was one of the most interesting products I've seen in awhile (and at $225, not super-expensive, either). PS, here's the website of the designer, Nik Willmore:
http://www.e-dot.com/
--Bruce
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: DavidW on June 09, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
Post by: DavidW on June 09, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
Quote from: Keemun on June 08, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
And then there are those posters who have evocative avatars for the sake of garnering attention.
I always liked the "my features whilst listening to" avatars though. ;D Anyway it looks the bottomline is that nearly all of us are not so superficial that we judge someone by their avatar, but we all have different preferences for what is a good avatar. Can we all agree on that? :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 07:59:52 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: DavidW on June 09, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
I always liked the "my features whilst listening to" avatars though. ;D Anyway it looks the bottomline is that nearly all of us are not so superficial that we judge someone by their avatar, but we all have different preferences for what is a good avatar. Can we all agree on that? :)
Yes, he announced he would be listening to Schoenberg next, and never came back. :(
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 08:01:19 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 08:01:19 AM
Quote from: DavidW on June 09, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
....we all have different preferences for what is a good avatar.
The only good avatar is a permanent avatar...excepting, of course, John's various listening faces ;D and Bruce's art collection 8)
MN Dave is a special case: his avatar is the constantly changing avatar. A breed unto himself.
Sarge
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 08:05:33 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 08:05:33 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 07:59:52 AM
Yes, he announced he would be listening to Schoenberg next, and never came back. :(
I've been worried about John. He hasn't been around much lately. We were discussing the Rott concert last month and he never checked in. I thought that odd since he's such a Rott fan. Hope all is well. He did mention a trip to the continent. Maybe he's traveling.
Sarge
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 08:08:44 AM
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 08:08:44 AM
I liked John's listening faces, too--many were quite hilarious. But Schoenberg seems to have shut down that process? :o ;D
Hope he comes back, too. Seems like a nice chap.
--Bruce
Hope he comes back, too. Seems like a nice chap.
--Bruce
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 08:37:42 AM
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 07:41:17 AM
Thanks, Bill! I'm just a very visually-oriented guy in general. Love some of the opera posters designed by Polish artists floating around, although many of them don't look so good when reduced to a postage-stamp size.
And I'll repeat some of those you mentioned! That tube lamp was one of the most interesting products I've seen in awhile (and at $225, not super-expensive, either). PS, here's the website of the designer, Nik Willmore:
http://www.e-dot.com/
--Bruce
This is a beauty:
(http://www.e-dot.com/LampImages/TubeLamp6DSharpNoLogo.jpg)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 08:40:49 AM
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 08:40:49 AM
Sorry to digress from the topic...but...
Yes, that's the lamp! Very much evokes old tube amplifiers...
--Bruce
Yes, that's the lamp! Very much evokes old tube amplifiers...
--Bruce
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 08:41:56 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 08:41:56 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 08:37:42 AM
This is a beauty:
(http://www.e-dot.com/LampImages/TubeLamp6DSharpNoLogo.jpg)
Interesting, there was an article in the NY times about the trend of using old fashioned light bulbs in fancy restaurants and clubs, despite the fact that they are much less efficient than conventional incandescent bulbs, never-mind fluorescent lamps.
Pretty, though.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:08:08 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:08:08 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 08:01:19 AM
MN Dave is a special case: his avatar is the constantly changing avatar. A breed unto himself.
I'm visually oriented, I guess, and get bored with my avatars rather quickly. Having said that, I've kept this Mesopotamian kittykat for quite a while now, maybe because I haven't been posting here so much.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 09:18:11 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 09:18:11 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:08:08 AM
...maybe because I haven't been posting here so much.
We've noticed :'(
Sarge
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 09:18:11 AM
We've noticed :'(
Sarge
You may be the only person upset by this news, Sarge. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brian on June 09, 2010, 09:21:55 AM
Post by: Brian on June 09, 2010, 09:21:55 AM
When my roommate used to read GMG constantly, after I alerted him of its existence, he knew users by their avatars, to the point where he didn't even know their names. We occasionally would have conversations about some recent thread and the arguments people had been making, and our discussion would be in terms of "what the lumberjack guy said" or "the Haydn guy," with the exceptions of users whose names matched their avatars, like "Sarge" and "Bogey." It was very interesting for me that my roommate was such a visual associator of identity with picture, where I had always just considered the avatar to be a garnish, a little aesthetic touch to make the post look nicer, like parsley or something. Very cool how different people react to avatars. 8)
And I've missed Dave, too, although I haven't been posting up to my usual rate either.
And I've missed Dave, too, although I haven't been posting up to my usual rate either.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 09, 2010, 09:22:41 AM
Post by: springrite on June 09, 2010, 09:22:41 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
You may be the only person upset by this news, Sarge. ;D
Others more upset have stopped posting as well, which is why we haven't heard from them.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:23:40 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:23:40 AM
Quote from: springrite on June 09, 2010, 09:22:41 AM
Others more upset have stopped posting as well, which is why we haven't heard from them.
Gee, I hope no one's offed themselves. >:D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 09, 2010, 09:24:34 AM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 09, 2010, 09:24:34 AM
Sometimes I get confused between Que and myself. :D
The shark avatar suited M Forever perfectly.
Unfortunately, I have fallen victim to having a false perception of a poster, based on their avatar.
Todd is a memorable example (not you Keemun), when he had the Gene Wilder avatar, struck me as cocky and arrogant, but I obviously do not perceive him that way anymore, and not just because he switched his avatar. :D
I find James avatar of Bach with sunglasses also exudes a certain degree of cockiness, but that's just me.
The shark avatar suited M Forever perfectly.
Unfortunately, I have fallen victim to having a false perception of a poster, based on their avatar.
Todd is a memorable example (not you Keemun), when he had the Gene Wilder avatar, struck me as cocky and arrogant, but I obviously do not perceive him that way anymore, and not just because he switched his avatar. :D
I find James avatar of Bach with sunglasses also exudes a certain degree of cockiness, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 09:39:12 AM
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 09, 2010, 09:24:34 AM
I find James avatar of Bach with sunglasses also exudes a certain degree of cockiness, but that's just me.
No. that's James. ;D
Sarge
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 09:41:31 AM
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
You may be the only person upset by this news, Sarge. ;D
Lies.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 09, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
Post by: Renfield on June 09, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 09, 2010, 09:39:12 AM
No. that's James. ;D
Sarge
Quoted for truth. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 09:23:40 AM
Gee, I hope no one's offed themselves. >:D
I miss the ol' zombie head you had many moons ago.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 10:45:44 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
I miss the ol' zombie head you had many moons ago.
This one?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 09, 2010, 11:19:32 AM
Post by: greg on June 09, 2010, 11:19:32 AM
(http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/superherog.jpg)
"Hello, inferiors!"
"Hello, inferiors!"
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: sospiro on June 09, 2010, 11:34:55 AM
Post by: sospiro on June 09, 2010, 11:34:55 AM
It certainly affects my perception and I once made a basic error. On another site, an avatar depicting a young modern-day woman made me assume the poster was female. But the poster was male.
This person confuses me. Is Kimi springrite's child? Is springrite male or female? I can't relate to a person whose sex I don't know.
This is the only Kimi I know.
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9924/kimiraikkonen1.th.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/kimiraikkonen1.jpg/)
I know this makes me seem shallow but if the avatar is a composer I don't like, I will pre-judge the content of the post & may not even read it.
What a fabulous story! You should keep that avatar!
The first time I went to Barcelona (1995) I came upon the Palau de la Música Catalana by accident & I fell in love with it. I thought it was like something from a fairytale. I try to attend a concert whenever I visit the city.
Quote from: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
I should do that study. To begin with, I should change my avatar from Kimi to Confucius and see if people take me more seriously.
This person confuses me. Is Kimi springrite's child? Is springrite male or female? I can't relate to a person whose sex I don't know.
This is the only Kimi I know.
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9924/kimiraikkonen1.th.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/kimiraikkonen1.jpg/)
I know this makes me seem shallow but if the avatar is a composer I don't like, I will pre-judge the content of the post & may not even read it.
Quote from: jowcol on June 08, 2010, 04:57:36 PM
Not sure if you all know the story, but my Avatar is a photo of me on a very special day-- Dec 26, 2004, when we were visiting Thailand. (My son is next to me) We were inland and pretty much out of touch, and this picture was probably taken about 5 hours after the Tsunami hit. It wasn't until we were heading back that evening that my nephew-in-law started picking up all of these frantic calls on his cell phone trying to see if we were okay.
Another friend of my wife's panicked, and so we were listed amount the missing on the CNN website for a couple of days, which required a lot of emails just to let pretty much everyone I knew that I was not dead. That didn't stop Fox news from dispatching a camera crew to my neighborhood to interview my neighbors about our grisly deaths.
I must admit I'm tempted to use the Repin portrait of Mussorgsky, but I don't seem able to replace this one. Yet.
What a fabulous story! You should keep that avatar!
The first time I went to Barcelona (1995) I came upon the Palau de la Música Catalana by accident & I fell in love with it. I thought it was like something from a fairytale. I try to attend a concert whenever I visit the city.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 12:08:36 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 12:08:36 PM
Quote from: sospiro on June 09, 2010, 11:34:55 AM
This person confuses me. Is Kimi springrite's child? Is springrite male or female? I can't relate to a person whose sex I don't know.
Hi, Annie. Kimi's story is beautiful and full of emotion. You can read about Kimi here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7521.0.html
Maybe it would be interesting to tell the origin of our nicknames (mine is almost a joke); although it should already exist a thread about that. For example, every time when I see name "sospiro", it produces a refreshing effect on me, probably stressed for your signature, which being a diminutive sounds kind, homey.
BTW, I recall Jens, for example, is against the nicknames or, at least, he consider them like a practice of the web hard to understand.
:)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Opus106 on June 09, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Post by: Opus106 on June 09, 2010, 12:11:34 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 12:08:36 PM
Maybe it would be interesting to tell the origin of our nicknames (mine is almost a joke); although it should already exist a thread about that. For example, every time when I see name "sospiro", it produces a refreshing effect on me, probably stressed for your signature, which being a diminutive sounds kind, homey.
BTW, I recall Jens, for example, is against the nicknames or, at least, he consider them like a practice of the web hard to understand.
:)
Does the nickname affect your perception of the poster? in 3... 2... 1...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:00:13 PM
Post by: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 02:35:16 PM
Yes, I recall. I think I changed mine to this
(http://www.webalice.it/edmtromb/blog/jaws0.jpg)
with the tag l line "I think you are going to need a bigger boat."
The one time M. improved of me, briefly.
V funny :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 02:07:23 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 02:07:23 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:00:13 PM
V funny :D
Too bad M forever couldn't restrain himself from going over the line of simple human decency. He had a lot of interesting things to say about music.
Anyway, I'm already getting tired of my Hopper painting Avatar. Too pretty and inocuous. Maybe I should spice it up a bit by switching to one of the indecent Hopper paintings, with boobs and all! :P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
Post by: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
OK, I've changed my Avatar. Quiz question (no prizes) who is it?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Opus106 on June 09, 2010, 02:12:13 PM
Post by: Opus106 on June 09, 2010, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
OK, I've changed my Avatar. Quiz question (no prizes) who is it?
Can I cheat?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
OK, I've changed my Avatar. Quiz question (no prizes) who is it?
Rimsky-Korsakov?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 10:45:44 AM
This one?
Looks close, but something is a bit off.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 02:26:14 PM
Post by: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: Bogey on June 09, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
Looks close, but something is a bit off.
So many zombies have come and gone in my life.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 02:34:12 PM
Post by: bhodges on June 09, 2010, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 09, 2010, 02:26:14 PM
So many zombies have come and gone in my life.
"Today's Signature Suggestion" ;D
--Bruce
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
Quote from: springrite on June 08, 2010, 12:32:13 PM
I should do that study. To begin with, I should change my avatar from Kimi to Confucius and see if people take me more seriously.
Oh, Kimi would just like to see someone try . . . .
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 03:02:21 PM
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: Sydney Grew on June 08, 2010, 04:55:44 PM
Let it not be forgotten that he was also, as has been the case with nearly all truly great men, a homo-sexualist.
What arrant nonsense.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Keemun on June 09, 2010, 03:34:40 PM
Post by: Keemun on June 09, 2010, 03:34:40 PM
Quote from: DavidW on June 09, 2010, 07:49:51 AM
I always liked the "my features whilst listening to" avatars though. ;D Anyway it looks the bottomline is that nearly all of us are not so superficial that we judge someone by their avatar, but we all have different preferences for what is a good avatar. Can we all agree on that? :)
I definitely liked John's avatars, and I can agree with you about different preferences for what is a good avatar. But I don't think it is superficial to judge people by their avatars. An avatar is what we use to represent ourselves to others. We all judge people to some extent by their appearance, behavior and beliefs. An avatar is no different. For some reason it is acceptable to exercise "good judgment" but it is bad to be "judgmental." The distinction itself is subjective, and therefore judgmental. :-\ I do think, however, that it can be bad to take negative actions based on one's judgments.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Lethevich on June 09, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
Post by: Lethevich on June 09, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on June 09, 2010, 02:09:01 PMBantock :) Rimsky was a good guess, the two do look alike.
OK, I've changed my Avatar. Quiz question (no prizes) who is it?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: hornteacher on June 09, 2010, 05:31:37 PM
Post by: hornteacher on June 09, 2010, 05:31:37 PM
Sheesh, five pages in one day on this thread. Apparently I need to log on more often. The logic behind my avatar is simple:
1) I love how she plays
2) I've met her and she is a genuinely nice person
3) I think she's cute
What that says about me I don't know (other than I like talented, sweet, cute people).
1) I love how she plays
2) I've met her and she is a genuinely nice person
3) I think she's cute
What that says about me I don't know (other than I like talented, sweet, cute people).
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 05:42:38 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 05:42:38 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 09, 2010, 05:31:37 PM
What that says about me I don't know (other than I like talented, sweet, cute people).
That's true about your avatar; but your signature could make you a candidate for a restraining order. :P ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 05:42:38 PM
That's true about your avatar; but your signature could make you a candidate for a restraining order. :P ;D
The impression I get from the avatar and caption, in a word, creepy. :P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: kishnevi on June 09, 2010, 06:59:31 PM
Post by: kishnevi on June 09, 2010, 06:59:31 PM
Okay, changed my avatar to a non musical option. Anyone recognize it? Familiarity with British TV shows might be helpful.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
Post by: karlhenning on June 09, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Lethe on June 09, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
Bantock :) Rimsky was a good guess, the two do look alike.
I love your av, Sara! Makes me smile at the thought of Him Who Inspired It ; )
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 10, 2010, 12:28:44 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 10, 2010, 12:28:44 AM
I do look for clues about who I am dealing with. Especially if they seem to be causing trouble. I also like to be clear whether I am addressing a male or a female. (Yes I do know it has to be one or other.) On-line identity is fluid and slippery....remember Pink Harp/Eric and his male and female personas.
So, on occasion the avatar can tell me something; though equally, it can lead me up the garden path. Some posters I have thought to be much older than they are by combining the avatar and what turns out to be a young fogey writing style.
As I have a poor memory for names, often I can at once clue into the poster by the avatar....until they change them. Names are also sometimes revealing, but as with all else, of only tidal reliability.
My own avatars were usually my own photos; I enjoy taking photos of buildings. 'Michel', the banned one not to be confused with 'M', used to PM me along the lines of...Not more of your f***ing photos of buildings! But recently the site has been refusing to accept Photobucket, so I just pick them from the Net.
Springrite opined the habit some have of quoting posters to their possible disadvantage: that is not, for me, about extending a fight. Usually I am simply quoting a little gem I encountered while trying to cover the ground. I am only quoting something they posted and that is 'permanently' on the site.
Turning to names chosen: my own was basically an accident, as this was the first internet site I joined, I thought that I was feeding in a password and that my on-line name would be Mike, but I decided just to leave it. So, you can't conclude much from my name here, but it has proved useful to in effect have two, as I use the 'K' one when moderating.
I also enjoy Bruce's gallery and I have missed MNDave, so get posting lad.
Mike
So, on occasion the avatar can tell me something; though equally, it can lead me up the garden path. Some posters I have thought to be much older than they are by combining the avatar and what turns out to be a young fogey writing style.
As I have a poor memory for names, often I can at once clue into the poster by the avatar....until they change them. Names are also sometimes revealing, but as with all else, of only tidal reliability.
My own avatars were usually my own photos; I enjoy taking photos of buildings. 'Michel', the banned one not to be confused with 'M', used to PM me along the lines of...Not more of your f***ing photos of buildings! But recently the site has been refusing to accept Photobucket, so I just pick them from the Net.
Springrite opined the habit some have of quoting posters to their possible disadvantage: that is not, for me, about extending a fight. Usually I am simply quoting a little gem I encountered while trying to cover the ground. I am only quoting something they posted and that is 'permanently' on the site.
Turning to names chosen: my own was basically an accident, as this was the first internet site I joined, I thought that I was feeding in a password and that my on-line name would be Mike, but I decided just to leave it. So, you can't conclude much from my name here, but it has proved useful to in effect have two, as I use the 'K' one when moderating.
I also enjoy Bruce's gallery and I have missed MNDave, so get posting lad.
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 10, 2010, 04:06:24 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 10, 2010, 04:06:24 AM
Quote from: knight on June 10, 2010, 12:28:44 AM
I also enjoy Bruce's gallery and I have missed MNDave, so get posting lad.
Yes, sir. $:)
Mike, you do know you can change your avatar by uploading a file from your computer? No Photobucket necessary.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 10, 2010, 04:14:07 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 10, 2010, 04:14:07 AM
Dave, yes, I have tried that several times without success.
Mike
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Opus106 on June 10, 2010, 04:35:26 AM
Post by: Opus106 on June 10, 2010, 04:35:26 AM
Quote from: knight on June 10, 2010, 04:14:07 AM
Dave, yes, I have tried that several times without success.
Mike
Even after cropping it down to size (which I think is 100x100 or something close to that)? I would love to see your photos do the rounds in the avatar space. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 10, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 10, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
I've decided to change my avatar from a composer to my next favorite pastime, chess.
My moniker, 'Brahmsian', says what I like already, I do not need a photo of Brahms on top of that to emphasize.
Or a photo of Mussorgsky, for that matter. :D
My moniker, 'Brahmsian', says what I like already, I do not need a photo of Brahms on top of that to emphasize.
Or a photo of Mussorgsky, for that matter. :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: sospiro on June 10, 2010, 10:36:32 AM
Post by: sospiro on June 10, 2010, 10:36:32 AM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 12:08:36 PM
Hi, Annie. Kimi's story is beautiful and full of emotion. You can read about Kimi here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7521.0.html
Thank you Antoine Marchand. I have just read Paul's wonderful story. I hope little Kimi is doing OK now.
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 09, 2010, 12:08:36 PMMaybe it would be interesting to tell the origin of our nicknames (mine is almost a joke); although it should already exist a thread about that. For example, every time when I see name "sospiro", it produces a refreshing effect on me, probably stressed for your signature, which being a diminutive sounds kind, homey.
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6671/blusho.gif) That is so nice. Thank you!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: vandermolen on June 10, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
Post by: vandermolen on June 10, 2010, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: Lethe on June 09, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
Bantock :) Rimsky was a good guess, the two do look alike.
Spot on :D Yes, Sir Granville and Rimsky did look alike.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: vandermolen on June 10, 2010, 02:47:20 PM
Post by: vandermolen on June 10, 2010, 02:47:20 PM
But now I have a new Avatar again - one of my favourite composers. Who is it? (no cheating).
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 10, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
Post by: Bogey on June 10, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 10, 2010, 09:33:43 AM
I've decided to change my avatar from a composer to my next favorite pastime, chess.
Nice!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: jowcol on June 10, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
Post by: jowcol on June 10, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on June 10, 2010, 02:47:20 PM
But now I have a new Avatar again - one of my favourite composers. Who is it? (no cheating).
Someone with the unfortunate initials B.S.?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brian on June 10, 2010, 04:59:05 PM
Post by: Brian on June 10, 2010, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: jowcol on June 10, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
Someone with the unfortunate initials B.S.?
Man, I was just reading old conversations among the BSE's this afternoon, during a search of the forum archives. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: hornteacher on June 10, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
Post by: hornteacher on June 10, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
The impression I get from the avatar and caption, in a word, creepy. :P
Really? Don't mean to come across that way. I'm just a big fan.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 10, 2010, 08:02:06 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 10, 2010, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 10, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
Really? Don't mean to come across that way. I'm just a big fan.
"Will you marry me Hilary Hahn" I.e., the most important thing for us to know about you is that you want to have sex with Hilary Hahn. Too much information.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 08:09:58 PM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 10, 2010, 08:02:06 PM
"Will you marry me Hilary Hahn" I.e., the most important thing for us to know about you is that you want to have sex with Hilary Hahn. Too much information.
?
I don't read it that way. Just puppy love, or something...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 10, 2010, 08:24:16 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 10, 2010, 08:24:16 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 08:09:58 PM
?
I don't read it that way. Just puppy love, or something...
Oh, hornteacher is 13 years old, doesn't know what marriage is, hasn't learned about the birds and the bees yet? Then I retract my remarks.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 10, 2010, 08:24:16 PM
Oh, hornteacher is 13 years old, doesn't know what marriage is, hasn't learned about the birds and the bees yet? Then I retract my remarks.
He's not saying ***k me, Hillary. Just wistfully casting his gaze in her direction. Sheesh, already...where's the romantic in you?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 10, 2010, 08:44:53 PM
Post by: springrite on June 10, 2010, 08:44:53 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 08:31:50 PM
He's not saying ***k me, Hillary. Just wistfully casting his gaze in her direction. Sheesh, already...where's the romantic in you?
All well and good, though one has to admit it becomes less cute coming from someone who has already graduated from highschool. ;)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 10, 2010, 09:06:22 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 10, 2010, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 10, 2010, 06:51:50 PMThat's what I figured. Surprised that anyone would have thought otherwise, ... not that it matters.
I'm just a big fan.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 10, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
Quote from: springrite on June 10, 2010, 08:44:53 PM
All well and good, though one has to admit it becomes less cute coming from someone who has already graduated from highschool. ;)
I guess he never grew up. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Luke on June 10, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
Post by: Luke on June 10, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
I have it on good authority (but in all seriousness I probably can't reveal my source) that HH's managers have had to prepare a special thick protocol covering, essentially, 'what to do when Hilary's fans get too keen' :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 10, 2010, 11:14:29 PM
Post by: knight66 on June 10, 2010, 11:14:29 PM
Are you referring to her personal appearances or to her products? 8)
Mike
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: jlaurson on June 11, 2010, 01:35:01 AM
Post by: jlaurson on June 11, 2010, 01:35:01 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 09, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
The impression I get from the avatar and caption, in a word, creepy. :P
I'm with you there... I always do wonder.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: vandermolen on June 11, 2010, 03:03:48 AM
Post by: vandermolen on June 11, 2010, 03:03:48 AM
Quote from: jowcol on June 10, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
Someone with the unfortunate initials B.S.?
Absolutely right :D :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
Post by: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
Sheesh, I had no idea people took it as seriously as that. Do we really want to live in a world where one can't playfully acknowledge the beauty of another person without it being lustful? For the record, I do not want to be physically intimate with Miss Hahn and have been happily married for 15 years to a beautiful loving wife. I'm disappointed that in today's world I apparently must declare that upfront.
Consider my signature deleted.
Consider my signature deleted.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 11, 2010, 05:21:26 AM
Post by: greg on June 11, 2010, 05:21:26 AM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 04:04:48 AMI'm with you on this one.
Sheesh, I had no idea people took it as seriously as that. Do we really want to live in a world where one can't playfully acknowledge the beauty of another person without it being lustful? For the record, I do not want to be physically intimate with Miss Hahn and have been happily married for 15 years to a beautiful loving wife. I'm disappointed that in today's world I apparently must declare that upfront.
Consider my signature deleted.
Kinda sad that a playful "will you marry me?" has to be interpreted like that.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 11, 2010, 06:27:41 AM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 11, 2010, 06:27:41 AM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
Sheesh, I had no idea people took it as seriously as that. Do we really want to live in a world where one can't playfully acknowledge the beauty of another person without it being lustful? For the record, I do not want to be physically intimate with Miss Hahn and have been happily married for 15 years to a beautiful loving wife. I'm disappointed that in today's world I apparently must declare that upfront.
Consider my signature deleted.
I must confess that I feel a bit guilty in this issue about your signature. But I need to clarify that my comment was intended to be a joke –clearly marked like that- not any kind of serious implication about your image as a member of this forum. On the contrary, honestly, I always considered your signature as a game, a sort of tender declaration of platonic love, almost adolescent. Sorry if a bad joke finished transformed into something else. :(
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 06:31:00 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 06:31:00 AM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 11, 2010, 06:27:41 AM
I must confess that I feel a bit guilty in this issue about your signature. But I need to clarify that my comment was intended to be a joke –clearly marked like that- not any kind of serious implication about your image as a member of this forum. On the contrary, honestly, I always considered your signature as a game, a sort of tender declaration of platonic love, almost adolescent. Sorry if a bad joke finished transformed into something else. :(
I also realize the signature was something of a joke. But that didn't entirely negate the involuntary impression. The other thing about signatures, you type them in once, but they appear thousands and thousands of times. Something which appears cute the first time you read it might not be cute after 17,431 repetitions.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2010, 06:55:57 AM
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2010, 06:55:57 AM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
Sheesh, I had no idea people took it as seriously as that. Do we really want to live in a world where one can't playfully acknowledge the beauty of another person without it being lustful? For the record, I do not want to be physically intimate with Miss Hahn and have been happily married for 15 years to a beautiful loving wife. I'm disappointed that in today's world I apparently must declare that upfront.
I'm with you on this one; I'm as single as they come but for me the point of celebrity crushes isn't to jump in bed with them, it's to admire their beauty and their work. I'm very disappointed that your signature is gone.
On the other hand, I DID have a problem with your signature. It should have read "Will you marry me, Hilary Hahn?" :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Franco on June 11, 2010, 07:51:48 AM
Post by: Franco on June 11, 2010, 07:51:48 AM
I also have my forum preferences set to not display signatures as well as avatars. I did not know that these choices have spared me so much distraction from the basic reason why I come here: to read and discuss classical music. I also have chosen to not take advantage of these forum features.
It may make the forum a bit less personal, but then again, it streamlines the content so that you will interact with the person based on what they write about music and not become inadvertently influenced by the small picture or phrase you have to see every time they post.
Just my two cents.
It may make the forum a bit less personal, but then again, it streamlines the content so that you will interact with the person based on what they write about music and not become inadvertently influenced by the small picture or phrase you have to see every time they post.
Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:50:42 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:50:42 AM
Quote from: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 04:04:48 AM
Sheesh, I had no idea people took it as seriously as that. Do we really want to live in a world where one can't playfully acknowledge the beauty of another person without it being lustful? For the record, I do not want to be physically intimate with Miss Hahn and have been happily married for 15 years to a beautiful loving wife. I'm disappointed that in today's world I apparently must declare that upfront.
Consider my signature deleted.
Don't sweat it too much, ht. I'm waiting NOW for the inevitable fallout from such rigorous overreacting: Sarge and Harry will be left out in the cold as their constant oogling at every pretty face on this board comes in for the strictest of censure.
Unless of course there's a certain double-standard on this board. But couldn't be.....nah... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 08:55:30 AM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 08:55:30 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:50:42 AM
Don't sweat it too much, ht. I'm waiting NOW for the inevitable fallout from such rigorous overreacting: Sarge and Harry will be left out in the cold as their constant oogling at every pretty face on this board comes in for the strictest of censure.
Unless of course there's a certain double-standard on this board. But couldn't be.....nah... ;D ;D
Though I had no problem whatsoever with hornteacher's signature, I'd like to point out that the comments about it were in the context of its permanence. Sarge and Harry do not oogle at pretty faces with every post they make. So no, this does not qualify as a double standard.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:57:07 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:57:07 AM
Quote from: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 08:55:30 AM
Though I had no problem whatsoever with hornteacher's signature, I'd like to point out that the comments about it were in the context of its permanence. Sarge and Harry do not oogle at pretty faces with every post they make. So no, this does not qualify as a double standard.
It was a JOKE, Renfield.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 11, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
Post by: springrite on June 11, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
Double over-reaction? Hummm... :-\
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:58:31 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:58:31 AM
Quote from: springrite on June 11, 2010, 08:57:19 AM
Double over-reaction? Hummm... :-\
;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:50:42 AM
Don't sweat it too much, ht. I'm waiting NOW for the inevitable fallout from such rigorous overreacting: Sarge and Harry will be left out in the cold as their constant oogling at every pretty face on this board comes in for the strictest of censure.
Unless of course there's a certain double-standard on this board. But couldn't be.....nah... ;D ;D
Well, I noticed the Sarge's most recent comment in that category involved what he described as the cutest employee in the Bundespost. It didn't strike me as awkward at all, and if here was a marriage proposal involved it was not offered on the board. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:27:53 AM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:27:53 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:57:07 AM
It was a JOKE, Renfield.
This unit does not have a sense of humour when logic protocols are engaged. Abort, Retry, Fail?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 09:29:53 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
...and if here was a marriage proposal involved it was not offered on the board. ;D
Not when Mrs. Rock might be reading! ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:27:53 AM
This unit does not have a sense of humour when logic protocols are engaged. Abort, Retry, Fail?
Hey, I have nothing at all against Sarge and Harry. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 09:44:37 AM
Hey, I have nothing at all against Sarge and Harry. :)
Fair enough!
All I'm saying is, when I spot something inconsistent, I often point it out for its own sake, without commenting on its semantic implications.
An occupational hazard, you might say. Some can't ignore screaming anime girls, I can't ignore inconsistencies. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 09:55:43 AM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 09:55:43 AM
I think everyone is being totally unfair, and over-reacting to hornyteacher's 'Hilary Hahn' admiration.
I mean, just because he has her avatar, and at times hides behind the dryer in her laundry room to snag the odd pair of underwear, does not automatically make one a stalker! Geez!!
:P
I mean, just because he has her avatar, and at times hides behind the dryer in her laundry room to snag the odd pair of underwear, does not automatically make one a stalker! Geez!!
:P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:56:56 AM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 09:56:56 AM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 09:55:43 AM
I think everyone is being totally unfair, and over-reacting to hornyteacher's 'Hilary Hahn' admiration.
I mean, just because he has her avatar, and at times hides behind the dryer in her laundry room to snag the odd pair of underwear, does not automatically make one a stalker! Geez!!
:P
I think one of your chess pieces fell over as a result of that post. :P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:04:25 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:04:25 AM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 09:55:43 AM
I think everyone is being totally unfair, and over-reacting to hornyteacher's 'Hilary Hahn' admiration.
I mean, just because he has her avatar, and at times hides behind the dryer in her laundry room to snag the odd pair of underwear, does not automatically make one a stalker! Geez!!
:P
Does anyone feel this guy knows too much about stalking behaviour? :o
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:06:17 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: knight on June 11, 2010, 11:04:25 AM
Does anyone feel this guy knows too much about stalking behaviour? :o
Mike
Not really. No experienced stalker would bother with underwear that's already been through the dryer. :P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 11, 2010, 11:09:04 AM
Post by: springrite on June 11, 2010, 11:09:04 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:06:17 AM
Not really. No experienced stalker would bother with underwear that's already been through the dryer. :P
Besides, who hides behind the dryer, unless it is the dead of winter.
Wait... better say no more...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: sospiro on June 11, 2010, 11:11:30 AM
Post by: sospiro on June 11, 2010, 11:11:30 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:06:17 AM
Not really. No experienced stalker would bother with underwear that's already been through the dryer. :P
Eeeuuwwww!!!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Opus106 on June 11, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
Post by: Opus106 on June 11, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
Avatar or no avatar, the last few posts leave deep impressions of some posters in the reader's mind.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
Good point, they are more likely to buy the freshly discarded range which is vacuum packed to retain, well.... you know.
(I saw it on CSI, honest.)
Mike
(I saw it on CSI, honest.)
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:26:44 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: knight on June 11, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
Good point, they are more likely to buy the freshly discarded range which is vacuum packed to retain, well.... you know.
(I saw it on CSI, honest.)
Mike
Someone told me that in Japan you can buy used woman's undergarments from vending machines.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
I hope the same machine does not dispense chocolate bars.
The only vending machine I use is for coffee, an eccentric machine. Someone has scratched an X where you have to hit the machine hard immediately after selecting, otherwise, you don't get a cup and the coffee goes drainwards.
Mike
The only vending machine I use is for coffee, an eccentric machine. Someone has scratched an X where you have to hit the machine hard immediately after selecting, otherwise, you don't get a cup and the coffee goes drainwards.
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 11, 2010, 11:30:39 AM
Post by: springrite on June 11, 2010, 11:30:39 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 11:26:44 AM
Someone told me that in Japan you can buy used woman's undergarments from vending machines.
There will soon be places where it can be used as currency.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:33:09 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:33:09 AM
Has the Euro sunk so very much? Mind you, I read today that Japan is in a similar financial danger as is Greece. Second hand scanties would I suppose serve as well as coins or banknotes, back to the old bartering system.
Mike
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 11:50:06 AM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: knight on June 11, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
I hope the same machine does not dispense chocolate bars.
Yup, otherwise the 'smell test' will be required. :P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 11:50:06 AM
Yup, otherwise the 'smell test' will be required. :P
This reminds me....didn't someone on the board have a 'smelling' fetish?? ???
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:51:56 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:51:56 AM
I think that Queen is trying to move across the board, I can sense her quivering in sheer stress.
Mike
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:52:29 AM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
This reminds me....didn't someone on the board have a 'smelling' fetish?? ???
Yes, but I am not sure we should go into it right the noo.
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 12:15:50 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 12:15:50 PM
This thread has gone downhill, hasn't it?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
OK Sisyphus, to you falls the task of rolling it back up hill.
Mike
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: knight on June 11, 2010, 12:26:46 PM
OK Sisyphus, to you falls the task of rolling it back up hill.
Mike
I think I'd rank below Sisyphus if I actually chose that destiny.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Well, he did not and I have just thrust it upon you. So you did not choose it...now, are you going to set to?
Mike
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 01:00:17 PM
Post by: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 01:00:17 PM
Quote from: knight on June 11, 2010, 12:51:38 PM
Well, he did not and I have just thrust it upon you. So you did not choose it...now, are you going to set to?
Mike
Nice try, but I will at the very least need to seduce my niece and steal my brother's throne before that works.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 01:43:46 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 01:43:46 PM
I'm sure hornteacher will be delighted at the wonderful set of associations flowed from his avowed infatuation with Hillary Hahn. I hope he'll be inspired to restore his wonderfully evocative signature line so as not to curtail our lurid flights of fancy pertaining to Miss Hahn. :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 01:56:45 PM
Post by: knight66 on June 11, 2010, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: Renfield on June 11, 2010, 01:00:17 PM
Nice try, but I will at the very least need to seduce my niece and steal my brother's throne before that works.
Oh, so that will be next week then. I guess we will have to wait.
Mike
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 06:53:33 PM
Post by: hornteacher on June 11, 2010, 06:53:33 PM
Hey, its all good gang. I enjoy hanging out with everyone here too much to be bothered by a little debate. I'll stop short of suggesting a group hug though.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 11, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
Post by: greg on June 11, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
She's reading the forum, and we don't even know it...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
Post by: Brian on June 11, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
Quote from: Greg on June 11, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
She's reading the forum, and we don't even know it...
Actually, over dinner tonight I remembered the "fake" account I created to irritate Rob Newman, named Alfred E. Neuman, and contemplated changing his username to Hilary Hahn and posting something here. But that would have been mean. :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Brian on June 11, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
Actually, over dinner tonight I remembered the "fake" account I created to irritate Rob Newman, named Alfred E. Neuman, and contemplated changing his username to Hilary Hahn and posting something here. But that would have been mean. :D
I think if Hilary Hahn was reading this site the "cease and desist" letter would already have been sent some time ago. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:25:43 PM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:25:43 PM
QuoteSorry, Hilary Hahn, I'm already married
Brilliant! ;D
But you'd better check with Brian about that punctuation. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 11, 2010, 08:31:48 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 11, 2010, 08:25:43 PM
Brilliant! ;D
But you'd better check with Brian about that punctuation. ;D
Punctuation seems fine, and I didn't see any reason to change "Violin Goddess." That's true enough.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 12, 2010, 04:27:13 AM
Post by: greg on June 12, 2010, 04:27:13 AM
Quote from: Brian on June 11, 2010, 08:04:11 PMThat would have been a good idea... :D
Actually, over dinner tonight I remembered the "fake" account I created to irritate Rob Newman, named Alfred E. Neuman, and contemplated changing his username to Hilary Hahn and posting something here. But that would have been mean. :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: George on June 12, 2010, 07:17:58 AM
Post by: George on June 12, 2010, 07:17:58 AM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 11, 2010, 09:55:43 AM
I think everyone is being totally unfair, and over-reacting to hornyteacher's 'Hilary Hahn' admiration.
I mean, just because he has her avatar, and at times hides behind the dryer in her laundry room to snag the odd pair of underwear, does not automatically make one a stalker! Geez!!
:P
;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:31:47 AM
Post by: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:31:47 AM
Hilary Han tells me she's really enjoying this site and this thread in particular. I know it is not the same violinist, but she's open to marriage proposals.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 12, 2010, 10:36:54 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 12, 2010, 10:36:54 AM
Quote from: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:31:47 AM
Hilary Han tells me she's really enjoying this site and this thread in particular. I know it is not the same violinist, but she's open to marriage proposals.
Photos please! ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
Post by: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
She looks something like this:
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: George on June 12, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Post by: George on June 12, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
She looks something like this:
Of wood, but not inducing wood. ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 12, 2010, 11:57:36 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 12, 2010, 11:57:36 AM
Quote from: George on June 12, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Of wood, but not inducing wood. ;D
Speak for yourself. :-[
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: jlaurson on June 12, 2010, 12:14:13 PM
Post by: jlaurson on June 12, 2010, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: springrite on June 12, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
She looks something like this:
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16420.0;attach=25695;image)
I love you, Daphne. (http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/10/ich-liebe-dich-daphne.html)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: George on June 12, 2010, 12:15:40 PM
Post by: George on June 12, 2010, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 12, 2010, 11:57:36 AM
Speak for yourself. :-[
I guess if I were a bridge, I'd wanna hit that.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
Post by: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 08, 2010, 12:37:13 PMWorks for me and it is nice to have such an authority figure confirming! ;)
Mozart is a really, really bad composer. (http://www.sbarnabas.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sacredheart.jpg)
--------------------
Ok, let's see what happens. 8)
Although personally I think Mozart is a very good composer, just too boring for my tastes. :(
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 12, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 12, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 04:25:58 PM
...... I think Mozart is a very good composer .....
Quote from: TeresaI firmly believe that it is GOOD musical judgement to be honest about the talent of composers (especially those of us who have studied musical composition) and to tell the truth about overrated composers. Mozart is one such composer who has illegitimate undeserved status! Mozart is a bad composer and his influence after his death held music down for over a century. Classical music would have been much better if he was never born IMHO.
Quote from: Teresa.... out of thousands of composers I've heard, I have not heard a single composer that is worst than Mozart. Telemann comes close, but IMHO Mozart is the very bottom of the barrel.
At this rate, he'll soon be your favorite. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cheesy.gif)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:25:33 PM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: Dan on June 12, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
At this rate, he'll soon be your favorite. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cheesy.gif)
ROFL! :D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
Post by: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: Dan on June 12, 2010, 06:17:28 PMDan I see I need some clarification as I really don't like Mozart, that is why he is boring to me.
At this rate, he'll soon be your favorite. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cheesy.gif)
Technically he is a very good composer. Musically IMHO his is a very bad composer and IMHO he is still the worst. He uses repeats and repetition too much for my tastes and his melodies are sickening sweet. I do not like him any better than when I wrote the previous posts. So not to worry he will never be one of my favorites.
For good or bad Mozart has influenced many of my favorite classical composers.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:49:08 PM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:49:08 PM
Quote from: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
Dan I see I need some clarification as I really don't like Mozart, that is why he is boring to me.
Technically he is a very good composer, musically IMHO his is a very bad composer and IMHO he is still the worst. I do not like him any better than when I wrote the previous posts. So not to worry he will never be one of my favorites.
Teresa,
What makes you say he is the 'worst' composer, and 'boring'? What are some of the works that you have listened to of Mozart?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: kishnevi on June 12, 2010, 06:51:32 PM
Post by: kishnevi on June 12, 2010, 06:51:32 PM
Quote from: Teresa on June 12, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
Dan I see I need some clarification as I really don't like Mozart, that is why he is boring to me.
Technically he is a very good composer, musically IMHO his is a very bad composer and IMHO he is still the worst. I do not like him any better than when I wrote the previous posts. So not to worry he will never be one of my favorites.
Your clarification is a bit confusing. Could you expand on what you mean by "musically he is a very bad composer"? Don't understand what you mean by "musically". Everything I can think of--inventiveness and flow of melody, use of harmonic structure and organization of his compositions, etc.--under that rubric makes him out to be a superior composer. Are you using the term to signify something else, and if so, what is it? Or do you mean those things, and simply hold a (very) minority opinion on his talents?
(Cross posting with Brahmsian, but Teresa's comment cries out for amplification.)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
Teresa/Kishnevi,
I've bumped up the 'Mozart' thread, so we don't need to derail this one any longer. :)
I've bumped up the 'Mozart' thread, so we don't need to derail this one any longer. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:00:37 PM
Post by: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:00:37 PM
But seriously...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:00:37 PM
But seriously...
Dave, your avatar is freaking me out! ??? ???
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:10:44 PM
Post by: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 07:08:02 PM
Dave, your avatar is freaking me out! ??? ???
Good? ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
Post by: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:10:44 PM
Good? ;D
Is that Rob Newman? ;D
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:13:03 PM
Post by: MN Dave on June 12, 2010, 07:13:03 PM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
Is that Rob Newman? ;D
Bruce Campbell
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 13, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Post by: WI Dan on June 13, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Quote from: James on June 12, 2010, 07:24:41 PMYou should get out from under granny's wig when you talk like that, Jimmy. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/wink.gif)
Ya about sums it up ... music for sissies imo.
Quote from: TeresaI hate the Art of the Fugue, the Brandenburg Concertos, the Harpsichord Concertos, the Cantatas, the Orchestral Suites and just about everything else Bach composed.At least she didn't infer that Bach fans are sissies.
Thanks, Teresa!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 13, 2010, 02:21:33 AM
Post by: WI Dan on June 13, 2010, 02:21:33 AM
Regarding the O.P.'s question:
I've thought about this a little, and can say that an avatar, by itself, rarely has any meaningful effect on my perception of the poster. Only the poster's words can accomplish that, unless the avatar is clearly intended to be annoying or disrespectful to others.
Avatars are sort of like hats, to me. They can be fun to look at, and to play around with, ... but hats are waaaay more useful.
I've thought about this a little, and can say that an avatar, by itself, rarely has any meaningful effect on my perception of the poster. Only the poster's words can accomplish that, unless the avatar is clearly intended to be annoying or disrespectful to others.
Avatars are sort of like hats, to me. They can be fun to look at, and to play around with, ... but hats are waaaay more useful.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Florestan on June 13, 2010, 08:05:01 AM
Post by: Florestan on June 13, 2010, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: jowcol on June 10, 2010, 04:20:51 PMUnfortunate? On the contrary, he's such a Jolly fellow. :)
Someone with the unfortunate initials B.S.?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 13, 2010, 08:08:23 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 13, 2010, 08:08:23 AM
Quote from: James on June 12, 2010, 07:24:41 PM
Ya about sums it up ... music for sissies imo.
Oh dear, Mozart deniers spring up. I didn't think a thread this silly to begin with could "degenerate" but it did. ::)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 13, 2010, 08:22:43 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 13, 2010, 08:22:43 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 13, 2010, 08:08:23 AM
Oh dear, Mozart deniers spring up. I didn't think a thread this silly to begin with could "degenerate" but it did. ::)
I've learned a lot on this forum in 7+ years, not least that no matter how banal or inoffensive a thread may be, it can always slip ever more deeply into the hell that is 'off-topic' banality. :)
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Brian on June 14, 2010, 06:26:09 AM
Post by: Brian on June 14, 2010, 06:26:09 AM
Quote from: Dan on June 13, 2010, 02:21:33 AM
Avatars are sort of like hats, to me. They can be fun to look at, and to play around with, ... but hats are waaaay more useful.
I wish this was true for me, but I always look very silly in hats. Something about my face, maybe. So avatars are more useful here.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Cato on June 14, 2010, 07:41:29 AM
Post by: Cato on June 14, 2010, 07:41:29 AM
I just changed mine: the earlier one was a bust of Cato the Younger, but I felt it was time to change to something more fun!
Uncle Scrooge McDuck! He does have honesty and integrity in common with Cato! 0:)
Uncle Scrooge McDuck! He does have honesty and integrity in common with Cato! 0:)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 14, 2010, 01:37:04 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 14, 2010, 01:37:04 PM
Quote from: Brian on June 14, 2010, 06:26:09 AM
I wish this was true for me, but I always look very silly in hats. Something about my face, maybe.
Doubt it. Probably just a matter of finding the right hat for you.
(http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/images/AubreyHat.jpg)
Ya can't please everyone, but ... .. damn.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 14, 2010, 01:38:19 PM
Post by: MN Dave on June 14, 2010, 01:38:19 PM
Lookin' good, Dan!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 14, 2010, 01:42:05 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 14, 2010, 01:42:05 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 14, 2010, 01:38:19 PM(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/grin.gif)
Lookin' good, Dan!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: greg on June 14, 2010, 07:14:29 PM
Post by: greg on June 14, 2010, 07:14:29 PM
liking Cato's avatar...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: George on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Post by: George on June 14, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Greg on June 14, 2010, 07:14:29 PM
liking Cato's avatar...
Me 2.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Octo_Russ on June 15, 2010, 03:03:50 AM
Post by: Octo_Russ on June 15, 2010, 03:03:50 AM
Quoteand the latest one (the cackling animated gif) put me over the edge. He is now the first and only person ever put on my ignore list here, just to suppress that avatar.
Holy crap!, i take it this is me! [snigger, snigger].
Seriously avatars are just a bit of fun, something you can hide behind, it's the real person behind the mask that we all need to get to know, does anyone else have an aversion to my avatar?.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 15, 2010, 03:54:51 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 15, 2010, 03:54:51 AM
Quote from: Octo_Russ on June 15, 2010, 03:03:50 AM
Holy crap!, i take it this is me! [snigger, snigger].
No, not you. It was Greg's cackling avatar that pushed me over the edge.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bogey on June 15, 2010, 10:43:56 AM
Post by: Bogey on June 15, 2010, 10:43:56 AM
Quote from: Octo_Russ on June 15, 2010, 03:03:50 AM
Holy crap!, i take it this is me! [snigger, snigger].
Seriously avatars are just a bit of fun, something you can hide behind, it's the real person behind the mask that we all need to get to know, does anyone else have an aversion to my avatar?.
Nope. Love it. I have used these two in the past:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rxQwwY_8tc-k5M:http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Cartoons/Wacky-Races/Ant-Hill-Mob.gif)
(http://www.dan-dare.org/dan%20frd/CreepyCoupeAni.gif)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 15, 2010, 06:24:45 PM
Post by: Teresa on June 15, 2010, 06:24:45 PM
Quote from: Brahmsian on June 12, 2010, 06:54:34 PMBrahmsian I wish you had bumped us somewhere else, as they really love Mozart over there and don't take kindly to dissenters. :o
Teresa/Kishnevi,
I've bumped up the 'Mozart' thread, so we don't need to derail this one any longer. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Philoctetes on June 15, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
Post by: Philoctetes on June 15, 2010, 07:21:08 PM
I'll be perfectly honest; I don't even look at them.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 16, 2010, 04:51:50 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 16, 2010, 04:51:50 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 15, 2010, 06:24:45 PM
Brahmsian I wish you had bumped us somewhere else, as they really love Mozart over there and don't take kindly to dissenters. :o
Is "dissent" what they're calling trolling nowadays? I know that we used to call people who intentionally behaved totally obnoxiously on threads where their opinion differed from the people who lived there to be trolls. I guess I'll have to try and keep up with all these terminology changes. :)
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: karlhenning on June 16, 2010, 05:02:37 AM
Post by: karlhenning on June 16, 2010, 05:02:37 AM
"Gawd, I hates me Mozart" simply isn't value added to a thread about the master's music. Say it once, and be content.
Even better is MN Dave's point: If I hated Mozart, I wouldn't go near a thread whose subject is Mozart.
Even better is MN Dave's point: If I hated Mozart, I wouldn't go near a thread whose subject is Mozart.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: jowcol on June 16, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Post by: jowcol on June 16, 2010, 12:35:48 PM
Mozart's ability to create Avatar's is way overrated, in my book. And he never made them in 3D. :P
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 16, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
Post by: Teresa on June 16, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 16, 2010, 04:51:50 AMNo new language as I was NOT trolling :o but bumped there by Brahmsian who moved our discussion about Mozart being a poor composer from here to the Mozart Thread. I never wanted to ever post on the Mozart Thread (lack of interest) and I followed so I could answer the questions posted to me and that is the only reason I followed. Once there I DEFENDED my god given right to consider Mozart the worst composer in the history of mankind!
Is "dissent" what they're calling trolling nowadays? I know that we used to call people who intentionally behaved totally obnoxiously on threads where their opinion differed from the people who lived there to be trolls. I guess I'll have to try and keep up with all these terminology changes. :)
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I have no idea whatsoever why Mozart-lovers are so touchy? :( As I don't care how many people hate my favorite composers. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: DavidW on June 16, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
Post by: DavidW on June 16, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
Oh that's happened to me before Teresa, that is having my posts moved to a thread that I had no interest in posting on. It sucks. :-\
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 04:45:44 AM
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 04:45:44 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 16, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
I have no idea whatsoever why Mozart-lovers are so touchy? :( As I don't care how many people hate my favorite composers. :)
You have no idea whatsoever? Does that mean you can't even imagine a reason, like for example that a Mozart thread is populated largely by people who love Mozart immoderately?
Mozart lovers don't seem particularly touchy to me. When I posted mildly critical (and highly qualified) remarks about Bruckner some of the replies could be considered "touchy". Of course I didn't mention that Bruckner was the worst composer in the Universe, in fact the worst composer that is logically possible, not only because it doesn't make any sense to say such things, but also because nothing good can come from making such a preposterous claim outside the bounds of a discussion of the meaning of aesthetic propositions treated as facts, a super dumb idea whatever your opinion is.
I'm thinking about changing my avatar:
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6691/clipboard01aps.jpg)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 05:23:05 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 05:23:05 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 16, 2010, 01:30:38 PMI have no idea whatsoever why Mozart-lovers are so touchy? :( As I don't care how many people hate my favorite composers. :)
Please refrain from discussing your idiotic notions about Mozart on this thread, which is dedicated to the little pictures that appear next to our names, which is a much more substantial topic of discussion.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 05:30:38 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 05:30:38 AM
Quote from: DavidW on June 16, 2010, 02:22:04 PM
Oh that's happened to me before Teresa, that is having my posts moved to a thread that I had no interest in posting on. It sucks. :-\
Thanks, Mr. Sympathy. ::) I'm sure it wasn't done for no reason. But if you think about it a minute, you will realize that Brahmsian can't move anyone's posts, not even his own. Actually, even a mod has to use a workaround for it. And it doesn't excuse boorish behavior no matter the cause. :)
Quote from: Teresa on June 16, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
No new language as I was NOT trolling :o but bumped there by Brahmsian who moved our discussion about Mozart being a poor composer from here to the Mozart Thread. I never wanted to ever post on the Mozart Thread (lack of interest) and I followed so I could answer the questions posted to me and that is the only reason I followed. Once there I DEFENDED my god given right to consider Mozart the worst composer in the history of mankind!
I have no idea whatsoever why Mozart-lovers are so touchy? :( As I don't care how many people hate my favorite composers. :)
I beg to differ, you were trolling your ass off. Making intentionally over the top remarks and then using a passive/aggressive "who me?" reply when confronted about it, and never stopping until you were made to stop by the moderator is the definition of trolling. You should look it up.
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 05:33:29 AM
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 05:33:29 AM
You can always start a thread like "Idiotic notions about Mozart" or "I touched a clown, now I'm going to jail!". (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:00:04 AM
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:00:04 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 05:30:38 AMFYI I never troll as I do not believe in it, I read the definition and the Posting Guidelines for the GMG Forum. I am repeating this as it is of extreme importance I was bumped there by Brahmsian who thought our discussion was more appropriate there than here. It turns out it was not.
I beg to differ, you were trolling your ass off. Making intentionally over the top remarks and then using a passive/aggressive "who me?" reply when confronted about it, and never stopping until you were made to stop by the moderator is the definition of trolling. You should look it up.
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By the same token I do not believe in lying but stating the complete honest truth when asked about my opinion, which is what I pride myself I doing 100% of the time. I am curious what remarks were over the top? As to my personal low opinion of Mozart, it is shared by many famous composers, musicians and writers. A few of which I quoted. Finally I had no intention whatsoever of ever posting on the Mozart thread, but it was the only way to answer questions posted here about my opinions of Mozart I honestly answered in reference to this post by Scarpia http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111) I was responding to.
A lot of thought and sincere effort goes into all of my writing, either for PFO, my four blogs, my two forums or my book. I do not write anything anywhere on the internet frivolous. My goal is to grow the awareness of Classical music and high resolution audio. Perhaps it might help you understand if you read one of my articles on the subject of growing the awareness of classical music?
The Basic Power Orchestral Repertoire or Classical music for folks who don't like Classical music (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue35/classical_music.htm)
Classical Music for music lovers who don't think they like Classical Music (http://sacdlives.blogspot.com/2009/02/classical-music-for-music-lovers-who.html)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:06:06 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:06:06 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:00:04 AM
FYI I never troll as I do not believe in it, I read the definition and the Posting Guidelines for the GMG Forum. I am repeating this as it is of extreme importance I was bumped there by Brahmsian who thought our discussion was more appropriate there than here. It turns out it was not.
By the same token I do not believe in lying but stating the complete honest truth when asked about my opinion, which is what I pride myself I doing 100% of the time. I am curious what remarks were over the top? As to my personal low opinion of Mozart, it is shared by many famous composers, musicians and writers. A few of which I quoted. Finally I had no intention whatsoever of ever posting on the Mozart thread, but it was the only way to answer question posted here about my opinions of Mozart I honestly answered in reference to this post by Scarpia http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111) I was responding to.
A lot of thought and sincere effort goes into all of my writing, either for PFO, my four blogs, my two forums or my book. I do not write anything anywhere on the internet frivolous. My goal is to grow the awareness of Classical music and high resolution audio. Perhaps it might help you understand if you read one of my articles on the subject of growing the awareness of classical music?
The Basic Power Orchestral Repertoire or Classical music for folks who don't like Classical music (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue35/classical_music.htm)
Classical Music for music lovers who don't think they like Classical Music (http://sacdlives.blogspot.com/2009/02/classical-music-for-music-lovers-who.html)
If you are going to continue to pursue this idiocy, please start your own thread, and do not fill other threads in the forum with this trash. This thread is about avatars.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:10:04 AM
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:10:04 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 05:23:05 AMI was just responding, it was you who brought up the subject see your post http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111)
Please refrain from discussing your idiotic notions about Mozart on this thread, which is dedicated to the little pictures that appear next to our names, which is a much more substantial topic of discussion.
I would never have touched the subject of my own accord, however you opened the door. BTW I have never called any of your notions idiotic and I take high offense at you calling my well thought out and long-term formed opinions of Mozart idiotic. I am totally serious and never purposely make idiotic statements about anything! :o
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:11:14 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:11:14 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:10:04 AM
I was just responding, it was you who brought up the subject see your post http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111)
I would never have touched the subject of my own accord, however you opened the door. BTW I have never called any of your notions idiotic and I take high offense at you calling my well thought out and long-term formed opinions of Mozart. I am totally serious and never make purposely make idiotic statements about anything! :o
Please do not post on this thread if you have nothing to say about avatars.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:16:27 AM
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:11:14 AMThen do not bring up other subjects, you are the one who started this discussion with your post. http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111) You cannot claim innocence now, that is the proof positive.
Please do not post on this thread if you have nothing to say about avatars.
BTW I have discussed nothing except the ramifications of your post and avatars in this thread. I even went to the Mozart thread when requested. What more can I do?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Philoctetes on June 17, 2010, 08:29:39 AM
Post by: Philoctetes on June 17, 2010, 08:29:39 AM
Quote from: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 05:33:29 AM
You can always start a thread like "Idiotic notions about Mozart" or "I touched a clown, now I'm going to jail!". (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Follow this advice, and restrict your 'thoughts' of less repute, into their own thread, as I have done, and as I imagine nearly every other has done and does do.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Bulldog on June 17, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Post by: Bulldog on June 17, 2010, 08:30:46 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:16:27 AM
BTW I have discussed nothing except the ramifications of your post and aviators in this thread. I even went to the Mozart thread when requested. What more can I do?
Stop craving and looking for attention.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:32:37 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:32:37 AM
Quote from: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:16:27 AM
Then do not bring up other subjects, you are the one who started this discussion with your post. http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,16420.msg418111.html#msg418111) You cannot claim innocence now, that is the prove positive.
Terese, Scarpia's post was a JOKE!! Not intended to be taken seriously. And it dealt DIRECTLY with the point of this thread, which is, the power of persuasion and the effects AVATARS have on opinion.
QuoteWhat more can I do?
It's pretty obvious what you can do...drop it already....
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:34:14 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:34:14 AM
Jeez. Drop it everyone, already. ::)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:39:37 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:39:37 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:34:14 AM
Jeez. Drop it everyone, already. ::)
What is it you think we're trying to do? ::)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:41:33 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:39:37 AM
What is it you think we're trying to do? ::)
Who's "we"?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:43:14 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:41:33 AM
Who's "we"?
The "everyone" you were referring to in your post.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Philoctetes on June 17, 2010, 08:44:06 AM
Post by: Philoctetes on June 17, 2010, 08:44:06 AM
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:44:50 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 08:44:50 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 08:43:14 AM
The "everyone" you were referring to in your post.
We posted at the same time.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:48:23 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:48:23 AM
Then we're agreed. If the next post is not about Avatars, I will lock the thread for the time being. (I suspect everything we have to say about Avatars has been said anyway.)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Todd on June 17, 2010, 08:54:07 AM
Post by: Todd on June 17, 2010, 08:54:07 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:48:23 AM
Then we're agreed. If the next post is not about Avatars, I will lock the thread for the time being.
I like avatars. Please do not lock the thread.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:56:12 AM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:56:12 AM
Quote from: Todd on June 17, 2010, 08:54:07 AM
I like avatars. Please do not lock the thread.
The judges have ruled that your post was about Avatars. The thread is still open.
By the way, what happened to your old Avatar of the guy sitting in the brown funnel?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 17, 2010, 08:58:58 AM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 17, 2010, 08:58:58 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:56:12 AM
The judges have ruled that your post was about Avatars. The thread is still open.
Todd won for a second. I had written this post:
"Do you know the joke about the two guys that wanted to go to Paris?"
;)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Todd on June 17, 2010, 09:07:15 AM
Post by: Todd on June 17, 2010, 09:07:15 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 08:56:12 AM
By the way, what happened to your old Avatar of the guy sitting in the brown funnel?
All this talk of avatars made me think that I needed a new one. The old one was one of the (many) trippy scenes from the movie The Fountain, but since I fancy Paths of Glory, it seemed like a good change.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on June 17, 2010, 09:20:56 AM
Quote from: Todd on June 17, 2010, 09:07:15 AM
All this talk of avatars made me think that I needed a new one....since I fancy Paths of Glory, it seemed like a good change.
Great
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 09:39:08 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: Todd on June 17, 2010, 09:07:15 AM
All this talk of avatars made me think that I needed a new one. The old one was one of the (many) trippy scenes from the movie The Fountain, but since I fancy Paths of Glory, it seemed like a good change.
I'm disappointed in a way though. We've been co-posting for 8 years, and that was only your second avatar. I could spot it and identify your presence easily. Now I have to start over again. Which, BTW, is why I've only change mine once. Except for Mn Dave, I have most avatars memorized for instant recognition. :)
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 09:51:52 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 09:51:52 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 09:39:08 AM
Except for Mn Dave, I have most avatars memorized for instant recognition. :)
Since I enjoy helping the elderly, I will stick with this avatar so that I will be easily remembered.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 10:33:59 AM
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 10:33:59 AM
(http://nirahlee.com/iswwr/evidence/hughes_howard_320x240.jpg)
Look, an Aviator avatar!
[He looks a bit.....ominous, don't he?]
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 10:56:19 AM
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 10:56:19 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 09:51:52 AM
Since I enjoy helping the elderly, I will stick with this avatar so that I will be easily remembered.
That IS a beauty, Dave, and easily remembered. It puts me in mind of the diary entry by Spohr concerning Beethoven conducting. I'll dig it up and post on the Beethoven thread, it'll make you laugh; really! :D
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 11:03:13 AM
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 17, 2010, 10:56:19 AM
That IS a beauty, Dave, and easily remembered. It puts me in mind of the diary entry by Spohr concerning Beethoven conducting. I'll dig it up and post on the Beethoven thread, it'll make you laugh; really! :D
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Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: kishnevi on June 17, 2010, 12:57:30 PM
Post by: kishnevi on June 17, 2010, 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 08:00:04 AM
A lot of thought and sincere effort goes into all of my writing, either for PFO, my four blogs, my two forums or my book. I do not write anything anywhere on the internet frivolous. My goal is to grow the awareness of Classical music and high resolution audio. Perhaps it might help you understand if you read one of my articles on the subject of growing the awareness of classical music?
The Basic Power Orchestral Repertoire or Classical music for folks who don't like Classical music (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue35/classical_music.htm)
Classical Music for music lovers who don't think they like Classical Music (http://sacdlives.blogspot.com/2009/02/classical-music-for-music-lovers-who.html)
Teresa--
Interesting articles, although my approach would be different than yours. You're looking for a bridge to make it easier for people to like classical music; I'd be looking (if I were looking) for something to make them appreciate what makes classical music different and yet so good. But I know plenty of people like you who discovered classical music because of ELP, etc. (Actually, my road was the reverse: I got interested in ELP because of their links to classical music. I was fortunate to usher at an ELP concert in college, and heard them warming up: I fairly sure the pianist (was he E, L, or P? can't remember now) played one of the Transcendental Etudes as a warm up. And it was well played.)
Thread relevance 1: I've yanked the picture from your article as the basis of a possible future avatar.
Thread relevance 2: May I ask who/what your avatar is? I've seen it, but can not remember any of the details.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 02:35:07 PM
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 02:35:07 PM
My avatar is partly Canadian. The amp behind me (the visible one (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/grin.gif)) is a Traynor, which is Canada's version of a Fender or Marshall (Marshall was the British version of a Fender originally, though it evolved away from that).
(http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/instruments-guitar-bass-amps/129443d1248340829-whats-late-60s-amp-bassmaster-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: Soapy Molloy on June 17, 2010, 10:10:30 AMOops! :-[ Thanks for catching the error, I meant to type avatars not aviators. :) I am sorry I don't have a favorite.
Now I'm interested. Who's your favourite? ...
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
Post by: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
Quote from: kishnevi on June 17, 2010, 12:57:30 PM
Teresa--
Interesting articles, although my approach would be different than yours. You're looking for a bridge to make it easier for people to like classical music; I'd be looking (if I were looking) for something to make them appreciate what makes classical music different and yet so good. But I know plenty of people like you who discovered classical music because of ELP, etc. (Actually, my road was the reverse: I got interested in ELP because of their links to classical music. I was fortunate to usher at an ELP concert in college, and heard them warming up: I fairly sure the pianist (was he E, L, or P? can't remember now) played one of the Transcendental Etudes as a warm up. And it was well played.)
Thread relevance 1: I've yanked the picture from your article as the basis of a possible future avatar.
Thread relevance 2: May I ask who/what your avatar is? I've seen it, but can not remember any of the details.
:) Thanks kishnevi, I'm glad you enjoyed the articles. Keith Emerson is the pianist of ELP and he wrote Piano Concerto No. 1 in 1977 which was on ELP's Works Volume One and recently recorded by Naxos with Jeffrey Biegel (Piano) Leonard Slatkin and the BBC Concert Orchestra, soon to be released.
I selected my avatar from the one's available here, I picked one that looked close to me, I am somewhat overweight, have curly hair and wear it back with a slight part in the middle, her hair is a little longer than mine and I have some gray.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 17, 2010, 03:40:31 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 17, 2010, 03:40:31 PM
Hey, look! It's Charles Ives!
This could be permanent, ... too soon to say, but the hat and bow tie make me feel all grown up. Perhaps my behavior will improve. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cheesy.gif) Expect a new signature line from Emerson or Thoreau in the near future, to complete the new look.
This could be permanent, ... too soon to say, but the hat and bow tie make me feel all grown up. Perhaps my behavior will improve. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cheesy.gif) Expect a new signature line from Emerson or Thoreau in the near future, to complete the new look.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
Quote from: Dan on June 17, 2010, 03:40:31 PM
Hey, look! It's Charles Ives!
This could be permanent, ... too soon to say, but the hat and bow tie make me feel all grown up. Perhaps my behavior will improve. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cheesy.gif) Expect a new signature line from Emerson or Thoreau in the near future, to complete the new look.
Emerson or Thoreau, so pompous. Perhaps something more lighthearted would be apropos.
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: mamascarlatti on June 17, 2010, 03:50:11 PM
Post by: mamascarlatti on June 17, 2010, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: Teresa on June 17, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
I selected my avatar from the one's available here, I picked one that looked close to me, I am somewhat overweight, have curly hair and wear it back with a slight part in the middle, her hair is a little longer than mine and I have some gray.
Teresa's avatar
LOUISE - ELISABETH VIGÉE LE BRUN
Portrait Of Hyacinthe Gabrielle Roland, Countess Of Mornington
http://www.europeanpaintings.com/item.php?id=67 (http://www.europeanpaintings.com/item.php?id=67)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 17, 2010, 03:51:24 PM
Post by: Antoine Marchand on June 17, 2010, 03:51:24 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
Emerson or Thoreau, so pompous.
You have a true arsenal of strong opinions! :D ;)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on June 17, 2010, 03:51:24 PM
You have a true arsenal of strong opinions! :D ;)
I enjoy reading Thoreau (Emerson not so much) but I can't see that the profound thoughts of Thoreau are appropriate to this sort of forum. Something more irreverent, like a quote from a Quentin Tarantino Movie, perhaps. :)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 17, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 17, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 03:42:42 PMYou've become quite the hall monitor, lately, Scarpia.
Emerson or Thoreau, so pompous. Perhaps something more lighthearted would be apropos.
How about a little tolerance, here, buddy?
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 04:09:38 PM
Post by: MN Dave on June 17, 2010, 04:09:38 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
I enjoy reading Thoreau (Emerson not so much) but I can't see that the profound thoughts of Thoreau are appropriate to this sort of forum. Something more irreverent, like a quote from a Quentin Tarantino Movie, perhaps. :)
Or from the man himself...
"I was kind of excited about going to jail the first time and I learnt some great dialogue."
"Violence is one of the most fun things to watch."
"This CGI bullshit is the death knell of cinema. If I'd wanted all that computer game bullshit, I'd have stuck my d*** in a Nintendo."
"I hope to give you at least 15 more years of movies. I'm not going to be this old guy that keeps cranking them out. My plan is to have a theater by that time in some small town and I will be the manager – this crazy old movie guy."
"I guess I'll have to marry Elvis Presley to get even." (When asked about Guy Ritchie marrying Madonna)
"Movies are my religion and God is my patron. I'm lucky enough to be in the position where I don't make movies to pay for my pool. When I make a movie, I want it to be everything to me; like I would die for it."
"I steal from every movie ever made."
"Sure, Kill Bill's a violent movie. But it's a Tarantino movie. You don't go to see Metallica and ask the f*****s to turn the music down."
"Dogs got personality. Personality goes a long way."
"What if a kid goes to school after seeing Kill Bill and starts slicing up other kids? You know, I'll take that chance! Violent films don't turn children into violent people. They may turn them into violent filmmakers but that's another matter altogether."
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 04:25:56 PM
Post by: drogulus on June 17, 2010, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: mamascarlatti on June 17, 2010, 03:50:11 PM
Teresa's avatar
LOUISE - ELISABETH VIGÉE LE BRUN
Portrait Of Hyacinthe Gabrielle Roland, Countess Of Mornington
http://www.europeanpaintings.com/item.php?id=67 (http://www.europeanpaintings.com/item.php?id=67)
ELISABETH VIGÉE LE BRUN
Self Portrait from 1782
(http://cyrano.blog.lemonde.fr/files/2007/12/lebr012.1198027492.jpg)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Szykneij on June 17, 2010, 04:45:04 PM
Post by: Szykneij on June 17, 2010, 04:45:04 PM
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: WI Dan on June 17, 2010, 05:11:20 PM
Post by: WI Dan on June 17, 2010, 05:11:20 PM
Quote from: SzykniejDon't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel PaigeI love that one, too. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/SoLoSMiLeYS1/cool.gif)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 05:35:42 PM
Post by: Scarpia on June 17, 2010, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: Dan on June 17, 2010, 04:09:10 PM
You've become quite the hall monitor, lately, Scarpia.
How about a little tolerance, here, buddy?
Just a suggestion. 8)
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: mc ukrneal on July 10, 2010, 05:13:04 AM
Post by: mc ukrneal on July 10, 2010, 05:13:04 AM
Just added a new avatar - just wanted to see if I am now perceived differently? I'll probably play around, but may go back to no avatar. Or may stick with this. Or get a new one. Such decisiveness!
Title: Re: Does an Avatar affect your perception of the poster?
Post by: MN Dave on July 10, 2010, 05:13:42 AM
Post by: MN Dave on July 10, 2010, 05:13:42 AM
ME LIKE!