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Title: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on August 31, 2010, 10:29:31 AM
Looking for recommendations. I appreciate these transcriptions more and more, though I don't care for Liszt's other transcriptions.
Other Schubert transcription recommendations are also welcome.  :)

If I were asked, I'd probably recommend Sofronitsky, but there surely must be others who are great in this repertoire?
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Drasko on August 31, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
Lazar Berman
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on August 31, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
QuoteLazar Berman

Thanks very much, Drasko! Do you have this recording in mind?
http://www.amazon.com/Sonata-Flat-Major-960-Schubert/dp/B00000221R/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1283285033&sr=8-6

Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Drasko on August 31, 2010, 12:11:03 PM
Haven't heard that, I have this one

http://www.amazon.com/Die-Junge-Nonne-Fantasia-Minor/dp/B00000JHMR
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on August 31, 2010, 12:14:46 PM
QuoteHaven't heard that, I have this one

Thanks very much! Has found its way into my shopping basket..
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Mandryka on August 31, 2010, 10:30:34 PM
Simon Pedroni's CD sounds interesting -- maybe this thread will prompt me to buy it. You can download some samples of three Schubert Liszt songs here:

http://www.simonepedroni.com/site_english/audio.htm


There's a recording of them by Bolet.  It's shallow of course -- just lovely glittering surfaces, with no dramatic or thematic contrasts. But it is ravishing, at least in the more relaxed and lyrical numbers, and it is a valuable antedote to VVS.
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on September 01, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
QuoteSimon Pedroni's CD sounds interesting -- maybe this thread will prompt me to buy it. You can download some samples of three Schubert Liszt songs here:

http://www.simonepedroni.com/site_english/audio.htm


Thanks very much! These samples sound VERY promising. I'll buy probably buy this..  though I'd prefer to buy it through a more familiar site, such as amazon. Unfortunately, I haven't found Pedroni there.
... Bought ...  ;D
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on September 01, 2010, 01:07:21 AM
QuoteThere's a recording of them by Bolet.  It's shallow of course -- just lovely glittering surfaces, with no dramatic or thematic contrasts. But it is ravishing, at least in the more relaxed and lyrical numbers, and it is a valuable antedote to VVS.

Yes, I'm familiar with that recording. Completely agree with your characterisation of the CD
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Holden on September 01, 2010, 01:21:16 AM
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it only has four but they are absolutely superb - nothing shallow about these. The Songs Without Words are also excellent.
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on September 01, 2010, 01:43:13 AM
Quoteit only has four but they are absolutely superb - nothing shallow about these. The Songs Without Words are also excellent.

Thanks very much, Holden! I actually ordered this recording a couple of days ago; now I'm even more looking forward to listening to it ..
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 01, 2010, 01:52:35 AM
This disc is worth buying just for the "Gretchen am Spinnrade"

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From the Gramophone review:

"For Liszt, Schubert was always "the most poetic of composers" and Lilya Zilberstein pays eloquent tribute to this deeply cherished view when she commences her recital with Liszt's arrangement of Schubert's Gretchen am Spinnrade. Her tempo here is daringly slow (7'23" as opposed to the youthful Evgeni Kissin's 3'25" on his DG disc). Some will find her performance drags unmercifully while others will argue that Liszt's dissonance and syncopation tell in an arresting and authentic way and that the climax—here allowed to stretch into infinity—has a truly Lisztian expansiveness and rhetoric."

Full review here (http://www.gramophone.net/Issue/Page/September%201992/131/825970/LISZT.+Gretchen+am+Spinnrade+(Schubert)%2C+S558)

Sarge
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Verena on September 01, 2010, 02:43:28 AM
Quote
From the Gramophone review:

"For Liszt, Schubert was always "the most poetic of composers" and Lilya Zilberstein pays eloquent tribute to this deeply cherished view when she commences her recital with Liszt's arrangement of Schubert's Gretchen am Spinnrade. Her tempo here is daringly slow (7'23" as opposed to the youthful Evgeni Kissin's 3'25" on his DG disc). Some will find her performance drags unmercifully while others will argue that Liszt's dissonance and syncopation tell in an arresting and authentic way and that the climax—here allowed to stretch into infinity—has a truly Lisztian expansiveness and rhetoric."


Thanks a lot Sarge! I had been eyeing this CD before (because of the Schubert-Liszt); I'll probably buy that track as a download, since the D 850 is not one of my favorite Schubert sonatas

BTW: Many thanks for recommending the Grimaud-Sanderling Brahms Concerto 1. It's wonderful!
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: George on September 01, 2010, 05:07:26 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on August 31, 2010, 10:30:34 PM
There's a recording of them by Bolet.  It's shallow of course -- just lovely glittering surfaces, with no dramatic or thematic contrasts. But it is ravishing, at least in the more relaxed and lyrical numbers, and it is a valuable antedote to VVS.

I have a Bolet CD with the Liszt virtuoso piano paraphrases on Ensayo. Only two are Schubert, though. Are these completely different works than the ones Verena is asking about?
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: Mandryka on September 01, 2010, 10:02:52 PM
Quote from: George on September 01, 2010, 05:07:26 PM
I have a Bolet CD with the Liszt virtuoso piano paraphrases on Ensayo. Only two are Schubert, though. Are these completely different works than the ones Verena is asking about?

I don;t know about "completely" different. This is the one we were talking about:

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=56490
Title: Re: Great Schubert-Liszt transcriptions
Post by: George on September 02, 2010, 03:14:28 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on September 01, 2010, 10:02:52 PM
I don;t know about "completely" different. This is the one we were talking about:

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=56490

Yeah, mine is completely different, recorded earlier and only including "Die Forelle" and "Serenade."