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Title: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: MN Dave on October 15, 2010, 08:35:08 AM
1. Louis Armstrong
  2. Duke Ellington
  3. Miles Davis
  4. Charlie Parker
  5. John Coltrane
  6. Dizzy Gillespie
  7. Billie Holiday
  8. Thelonious Monk
  9. Charles Mingus
10. Count Basie
11. Lester Young
12. Ella Fitzgerald
13. Coleman Hawkins
14. Sonny Rollins
15. Sidney Bechet
16. Art Blakey
17. Ornette Coleman
18. Bill Evans
19. Art Tatum
20. Benny Goodman
21. Clifford Brown
22. Stan Getz
23. Jelly Roll Morton
24. Sarah Vaughan
25. Herbie Hancock
26. Bud Powell
27. Wayne Shorter
28. Fletcher Henderson
29. Django Reinhardt
30. Horace Silver
31. Dave Brubeck
32. Rahsaan Roland Kirk
33. Cecil Taylor
34. King Oliver
35. Sun Ra
36. Gil Evans
37. Lionel Hampton
38. Art Pepper
39. Eric Dolphy
40. Oscar Peterson
41. Charlie Christian
42. Ben Webster
43. Fats Waller
44. Earl Hines
45. Woody Herman
46. Wes Montgomery
47. J. J. Johnson
48. John McLaughlin
49. Artie Shaw
50. Lee Morgan
51. David Murray
52. Chick Corea
53. Modern Jazz Quartet
54. Max Roach
55. Anthony Braxton
56. Bix Beiderbecke
57. Cannonball Adderley
58. Dexter Gordon
59. Keith Jarrett
60. Lee Konitz
61. Stan Kenton
62. Chet Baker
63. Roy Eldridge
64. Joe Henderson
65. McCoy Tyner
66. Gerry Mulligan
67. Benny Carter
68. Teddy Wilson
69. Lennie Tristano
70. Freddie Hubbard
71. Jimmy Smith
72. Mary Lou Williams
73. George Russell
74. Fats Navarro
75. Albert Ayler
76. Bennie Moten
77. Jimmie Lunceford
78. Wynton Marsalis
79. Charlie Haden
80. Erroll Garner
81. Billy Strayhorn
82. Meade Lux Lewis
83. Pat Metheny
84. Jack Teagarden
85. Johnny Hodges
86. Chick Webb
87. Jimmy Giuffre
88. Jaco Pastorius
89. Hank Mobley
90. Elvin Jones
91. Evan Parker
92. Paul Chambers
93. Ron Carter
94. Philly Joe Jones
95. Carla Bley
96. Bennie Golson
97. James Carter
98. Donald Byrd
99. Johnny Dodds
100. Glenn Miller (http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_jazz/best_jazzartists.html)
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 15, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
I am so not a Chet Baker fan.

There: I said it. And I'm glad, I tell you!
; )

Pangs me just a little to see Dolphy so far down that list, though I cannot really argue the point. He died too young.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: MN Dave on October 15, 2010, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
I am so not a Chet Baker fan.

There: I said it. And I'm glad, I tell you!
; )

Pangs me just a little to see Dolphy so far down that list, though I cannot really argue the point. He died too young.

Glenn Miller hasn't fallen off. Shall we push him?
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 15, 2010, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on October 15, 2010, 08:41:13 AM
Glenn Miller hasn't fallen off. Shall we push him?

I like your thinking!

The top ten are pretty strong, though honestly I wonder if Billy Holiday isn't up quite there as a feminist spike.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: MN Dave on October 15, 2010, 09:02:25 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 08:44:20 AM

I like your thinking!

The top ten are pretty strong, though honestly I wonder if Billy Holiday isn't up quite there as a feminist spike.

No, she's the ultimate jazz singer...so they say.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 15, 2010, 09:14:34 AM
I need to revisit the DeVeaux/Giddins tome Jazz . . . .
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: MN Dave on October 15, 2010, 09:17:45 AM
Myself, I like Ella and Sarah.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 15, 2010, 09:20:41 AM
Can't not like Ella. I even like that she blew the words to "Mack the Knife."
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
Ella's the top singer for me. I heard her cover of "Over the Rainbow" on the radio once and I actually cried.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
I am so not a Chet Baker fan.

Clearly you need to watch this movie.

(http://www.viewandreview.com/BandVisit.jpg)

It will make you like Chet Baker, for a moment, at least. Also, as an added incentive, the scene from which the below still is taken is one of the funniest, sweetest moments from any new movie I've seen in the last few years. Once you see these three characters sitting on a bench, prepare yourself for a rare moment of movie magic.

(http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/6198/BandsVisit.jpg)
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 15, 2010, 09:32:23 AM
Lennie Tristano 17 places below Chick Corea? And John McLaughlin isn't even a real Jazz artist, more like technical masturbation. This list is useless.  >:D
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2010, 09:34:57 AM
Ella Fitzgerald sings "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7VprPX8kg)
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 15, 2010, 09:39:50 AM
Quote from: Brian on October 15, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
Clearly you need to watch this movie.

(http://www.viewandreview.com/BandVisit.jpg)

It will make you like Chet Baker, for a moment, at least. Also, as an added incentive, the scene from which the below still is taken is one of the funniest, sweetest moments from any new movie I've seen in the last few years. Once you see these three characters sitting on a bench, prepare yourself for a rare moment of movie magic.

(http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/6198/BandsVisit.jpg)

I have seen the trailer for it, and thanks for reminding me! I do want to watch that one. My non-enthusiasm for Chet Baker notwithstanding ; )
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 15, 2010, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: Brian on October 15, 2010, 09:34:57 AM
Ella Fitzgerald sings "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7VprPX8kg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxotcFALP8k

Ella imitating Armstrong. I think i heard it all now.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Brian on October 15, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 09:39:50 AM
I have seen the trailer for it, and thanks for reminding me! I do want to watch that one. My non-enthusiasm for Chet Baker notwithstanding ; )

I just found my favorite scene (pictured in that post) on YouTube and watched it again. Gosh!  ;D A 3:00 uninterrupted take with unmoving camera - I hadn't remembered that. At some point this year, I'll convince somebody with a television to have a movie night party dedicated to this.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 15, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
Quote from: Brian on October 15, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
I just found my favorite scene (pictured in that post) on YouTube and watched it again.

Link us, dude! ; )
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: bhodges on October 15, 2010, 10:03:35 AM
May I interject: those with no interest in this topic, please go elsewhere for entertainment.

Thank you.  Now back to discussing jazz.  0:)

--Bruce
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 15, 2010, 10:07:42 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
I am so not a Chet Baker fan.

There: I said it. And I'm glad, I tell you!
; )

I don't know much about him but he was pretty good in Playboy

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
Pangs me just a little to see Dolphy so far down that list, though I cannot really argue the point. He died too young.

I would still switch places with Wayne Shorter.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Szykneij on October 15, 2010, 05:18:07 PM
Can you list Brubeck and not list Desmond?
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Andante on October 15, 2010, 08:11:53 PM
How about Esbjorn Svensson a Swedish Pianist, sadly no longer with us his trio (Dan Berglund double bass and  Magnus Öström drums) made some fantastic recordings.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 16, 2010, 03:48:16 AM
Quote from: Szykniej on October 15, 2010, 05:18:07 PM
Can you list Brubeck and not list Desmond?

Didn't he take a trolley to the jeweller's store?
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 16, 2010, 04:10:07 AM
Quote from: Andante on October 15, 2010, 08:11:53 PM
How about Esbjorn Svensson a Swedish Pianist, sadly no longer with us his trio (Dan Berglund double bass and  Magnus Öström drums) made some fantastic recordings.

I checked some of his youtube videos. Wasn't impressed. But then again, i rarely am with modern Jazz musicians.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Bogey on October 16, 2010, 05:19:02 AM
Nice to see Stan Getz in the top 25, but Dave Brubeck pushed to 31 is a crime. $:)
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Bogey on October 16, 2010, 05:21:16 AM
Interesting where Glenn Miller is.  I enjoy his music quite a bit, but not sure if he should be ranked lower or higher than he is.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 16, 2010, 05:24:49 AM
Am i the only one who thinks Monk is a tad overrated as well?
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: MN Dave on October 16, 2010, 06:48:36 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 16, 2010, 05:24:49 AM
Am i the only one who thinks Monk is a tad overrated as well?

That's a good question. These days I can count my favorites within any genre on one hand. Sometimes even on one finger. :)
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 16, 2010, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 16, 2010, 05:24:49 AM
Am i the only one who thinks Monk is a tad overrated as well?

Personally, I've been on an extended Monk jag lately, and I don't consider him 'overrated' in the least.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: karlhenning on October 16, 2010, 07:41:09 AM
What was the statistic I saw recently? To the effect that Monk's compositions are the most covered and recorded, second only to the Duke.  When you consider how much more Ellington composed than did Monk, the power of that statistic really sinks in.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Szykneij on October 16, 2010, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 16, 2010, 03:48:16 AM
Didn't he take a trolley to the jeweller's store?

Yes, after he left his barrow in the market place.   ;)
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on October 16, 2010, 08:28:18 PM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 16, 2010, 05:24:49 AM
Am i the only one who thinks Monk is a tad overrated as well?

By the amount of cricket chirping heard in the background I would have to say yes.

Personally I love Monk's music. The earlier the better, though, for me. His Blue Notes and Riversides (and the one Vogue I've heard) show him at his most volatile and exploratory.

His remakes for Columbia aren't bad by any stretch but what I miss in them is that abandon I often hear earlier on. By the time of his Columbia's he's a much more settled artist and the need to break any more new ground has apparently run its course. Fine by me as he was really just updating his catalog as the stereo era blossomed - a boon for fans of high(er) fidelity.

But none of this amounts to anything like a black mark against his overall status as a visionary. By the time of his Columbia's he'd been performing for well-nigh twenty years.

(The one exception to his Columbia's is his double-CD set "Live At The It Club". Inspired stuff. "Old" Monk revisited.) 

Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: KevinP on October 17, 2010, 05:31:21 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 15, 2010, 08:40:29 AM
I am so not a Chet Baker fan.

There: I said it. And I'm glad, I tell you!
; )


and you're not alone. The whole west coast scene leave me a little cold.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 17, 2010, 05:34:02 AM
Quote from: KevinP on October 17, 2010, 05:31:21 AM
and you're not alone. The whole west coast scene leave me a little cold.

Pun intended? I prefer east cost musicians myself. In fact, i tend to prefer black Jazz musicians over white ones most of the times. Either way, for west coast cool Jazz, i always liked Art Pepper best.
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: KevinP on October 17, 2010, 05:40:15 AM
Definitely east coast or Chicago for me.

Speaking of Chicago, Where's Von Freeman on the list?
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: MN Dave on October 17, 2010, 05:48:34 AM
Calls for artists missing from the list are all people I never heard of.  ;D
Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: KevinP on October 17, 2010, 05:00:24 PM
Von Freeman is an excellent saxophone player whose only sin is never having moved to New York and staying in Chicago, but he is quite well known (and is Chico's father).

I can honestly put this little-known gem in my top 5 jazz recordings ever:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51gImAQFQvL._SS400_.jpg)
partly because of Freeman but equally because of the pianist, John Young, who I really wouldn't expect you to know but who committed the same sin.

Title: Re: 100 Greatest Jazz Artists!!!
Post by: arkiv on November 28, 2017, 07:23:52 PM
We should classify by instrument