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Title: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: karlhenning on October 28, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
Not dumb in any agreeable way . . . some dumb movies we revisit for enjoyment.  Dumbest in the sense of Dumb and I ain't sitting through it again, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Josquin des Prez on October 28, 2010, 11:14:53 AM
Saw.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Scarpia on October 28, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
There was that film version of Dune with Sting.  Everyone had plugs stuck in their noses, eww!
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: SonicMan46 on October 28, 2010, 11:42:01 AM
Well, I have to think - there MUST be many that I've seen?  ;D

But one that comes immediately to mind is The Thing w/ Two Heads (1972) w/ Ray Milland and Rosy Grier - not sure that I even sat through this one on my only viewing decades ago; but did garner a few 5* ratings on Amazon!  :D

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51N0DBAF53L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)  (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZuMwtK8pnGw/Sr4YiXn85FI/AAAAAAAAAFo/N674H5dUTkM/s320/thing+with+two+heads.jpg)
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Opus106 on October 28, 2010, 11:46:12 AM
Don't remember the name. American movie. College kids (about to enter college or whatever) camp on a Mayan(?) pyramid. Natives won't let them come down. (If they do, they'd end up being killed.) Stupid things happen. Girl survives and escapes in a Jeep. Some more people get ready to camp. Based on a book, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Todd on October 28, 2010, 11:53:55 AM
One of the Hellraiser sequels.  Maybe it was the first one, I can't remember.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: MN Dave on October 28, 2010, 11:55:10 AM
Karl, you don't even watch horror!
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Scarpia on October 28, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: SonicMan on October 28, 2010, 11:42:01 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZuMwtK8pnGw/Sr4YiXn85FI/AAAAAAAAAFo/N674H5dUTkM/s320/thing+with+two+heads.jpg)

This is the movie that started the trend among young urban black men of wearing middle-aged white men as fashion accessories.

(Yes, I know I stole that line, but I don't remember from where, exactly.)
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: karlhenning on October 28, 2010, 12:12:46 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on October 28, 2010, 11:55:10 AM
Karl, you don't even watch horror!

Well, it's that time of year when my wife & mom-in-law find they need to be more cautious about channel-surfing, as they may unwitting chance upon some scene which they find appallingly disgusting.  And that reminded me of a movie (don't know the name) which I chanced on, and couldn't watch through to the end. Not for the gore (it wasn't particularly gory), but for the sheer stupidity : )
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: karlhenning on October 28, 2010, 12:13:47 PM
Quote from: Todd on October 28, 2010, 11:53:55 AM
One of the Hellraiser sequels.  Maybe it was the first one, I can't remember.

I did actually watch Hellraiser sometime over the past year. Just out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: MN Dave on October 28, 2010, 12:30:55 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 28, 2010, 12:13:47 PM
I did actually watch Hellraiser sometime over the past year. Just out of curiosity.

And...?
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: karlhenning on October 28, 2010, 12:33:55 PM
Not really my thing, but (so far as I may judge such a thing) a good sight better a movie than your average horror flick.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: DavidW on October 28, 2010, 12:38:38 PM
Quote from: Opus106 on October 28, 2010, 11:46:12 AM
Don't remember the name. American movie. College kids (about to enter college or whatever) camp on a Mayan(?) pyramid. Natives won't let them come down. (If they do, they'd end up being killed.) Stupid things happen. Girl survives and escapes in a Jeep. Some more people get ready to camp. Based on a book, if I remember correctly.

You're thinking of The Ruins, and that was silly bad but oh ho ho I have a better one... ;D
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: DavidW on October 28, 2010, 12:40:34 PM
Ankle Biters.

(http://www.filmsquish.com/guts/files/images/AnkleBiters.jpg)

A story of midget vampires. ;D
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: bhodges on October 29, 2010, 10:34:05 AM
One of my fondest memories is from the 1980s, when my brothers and sister and I got together to watch The Giant Gila Monster.  We laughed ourselves silly.  (So I suppose that implies that we might try to repeat the experience, which is not exactly what you asked.  ;D)

PS, here's a trailer, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3b0NWljlPw) which is pretty hilarious on its own.

--Bruce
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: bhodges on October 29, 2010, 10:34:05 AM
One of my fondest memories is from the 1980s, when my brothers and sister and I got together to watch The Giant Gila Monster.  We laughed ourselves silly.  (So I suppose that implies that we might try to repeat the experience, which is not exactly what you asked.  ;D)

PS, here's a trailer, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3b0NWljlPw) which is pretty hilarious on its own.

--Bruce

The whole movie's on YouTube! It's the featured video on the right side of that page.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: MDL on October 29, 2010, 02:14:10 PM
I used to think that I Know What You Did Last Summer was utterly ridiculous. But the sequel, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, makes an average episode of Scooby Doo look like Citizen Kane.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 02:26:21 PM

     Killer Klowns from Outer Space wasn't really as dumb as all that. It was really quite imaginative. It used "dumb horror flick" as a jumping off place to ponder a deep and urgent issue: What if clowns really were killers from outer space? What, if anything, could we do about it?
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2010, 02:41:41 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
     Killer Klowns from Outer Space wasn't really as dumb as all that. It was really quite imaginative. It used "dumb horror flick" as a jumping off place to ponder a deep and urgent issue: What if clowns really were killers from outer space? What, if anything, could we do about it?

I really enjoyed that movie! Would very gladly watch it again. A very funny, enjoyable time.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Bulldog on October 29, 2010, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
     Killer Klowns from Outer Space wasn't really as dumb as all that. It was really quite imaginative. It used "dumb horror flick" as a jumping off place to ponder a deep and urgent issue: What if clowns really were killers from outer space? What, if anything, could we do about it?

Spray them with seltzer water.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: MDL on October 29, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
     Killer Klowns from Outer Space wasn't really as dumb as all that. It was really quite imaginative. It used "dumb horror flick" as a jumping off place to ponder a deep and urgent issue: What if clowns really were killers from outer space? What, if anything, could we do about it?

I saw Klowns on VHS in the '80s and at the time, thought it was rubbish. But various scenes have stuck in my memory in a queasy, vague way. It made a change from the usual teenage-girl-in-knickers-vs-chainsaw-waving-maniac stuff that dominated the '80s horror market.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: MDL on October 29, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
I saw Klowns on VHS in the '80s and at the time, thought it was rubbish. But various scenes have stuck in my memory in a queasy, vague way. It made a change from the usual teenage-girl-in-knickers-vs-chainsaw-waving-maniac stuff that dominated the '80s horror market.

    What? Have you no discernment at all? The world would be a poorer place by far without Slumber Party Massacre 2!
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: Daverz on October 29, 2010, 08:29:21 PM
The only kind of horror I like are old films like James Whale films and Hammer films (which are never really scary, but fun).  Also "supernatural thrillers" like The Devil's Backbone.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: MDL on October 30, 2010, 02:38:08 AM
Quote from: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 06:57:43 PM
    What? Have you no discernment at all? The world would be a poorer place by far without Slumber Party Massacre 2!

Ha! That one passed me by. I'm sure it's peachy.
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: snyprrr on October 30, 2010, 10:07:23 AM
snyprrr Schools the Crew on 'Dumb' Horror Movies.



Considering Karl's requirements, that it be a movie you DON'T want to see again (who doesn't want to see The Giant Gila Monster again and again?), all of the 'cool' dumb movies (Blood of Dracula's Castle, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Curse of Bigfoot) don't count. Anything with ANY redeeming quality of 'shits-and-giggles' doesn't count.

For me, this dreaded isle is the home to those movies, that for their entire running time draw us deeper and deeper into a slowly emerging sense of having been lied to. Anyone who has Phil Hardy's Encyclopedia of Horror Films will be familiar with a couple of these titles. As I write this, a few faint images from the past begin to come up, like Samuel to Saul, to torment my memories.

I am thinking of those movies that make you mad for seeing them. A Spanish movie from the '70s, the kind that came with three titles, comes to mind. It is set in the 19th century. Most of the,...hrrhmm,...action takes place in terribly lit outside locales, so you can't see anything. The boobies were edited out for TV. The "Living Dead" are two slow moving actors in oatmeal makeup (ALL really dumb horror movies have 'oatmeal' monsters) who don't do anything. The "hunchback" is just a gutter bum with a colloidal scar. Most of the scenes are just excruciating, dubbed, dialogue.

Obviously, I could go on ::) ;D! However, I would NEVER lump Curse of Bigfoot (available on YouTube) into this category. CoB has so much badness as to make it on a par with Dolemite, and such like exploitation.

Dumb= Failed Exploitation (exploitation that does NOT deliver)

Which brings to mind Soul Vengeance, the story of a young black brutha who uses his slithering ten foot penis to strangle the whiteys! Wow, you never heard of it?



btw- the one cable channel has been playing all 9 Friday the 13th movies (the original series). On one hand, it is very interesting to see the sociological aspects of these movies as they plow through the '80s (it takes until No.6, I believe, that we start to see real, '80s-styled preppies with the Izod), but, on the other hand, No.5 gets my vote for the Dumb Award. Just boring.

I like how, in the one that came out in 1985 (one year after Reagan's re-election), the film begins to reflect the changing mores of the '80s: the hero character is a young black boy! Look at other movies like this from the mid-'80s on, and you will see the changing 'face' of the 'hero' (Joseph Campbell).

Look, NOW, to see how the 'face of the hero' has changed.



ok, I'm starting (starting?) to get off topic.



I generally don't enjoy the Fulci School or the Pete Walker School (height of '70s misogyny).

Trust me, I WILL come up with the answer here (whether you want me to or not, haha)! ???



John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness is astoundingly bad, but in the unintentionally funny way. I do believe that the Titles Credits actually meander 15 mins into the film!



I'm not even going to comment on ANYTHING made after 1999. YOU WANT DUMB????????

SCI_FI CHANNEL:

Sharktopus!!!!

Ice Spiders!!!

ANYTHING WITH CGI!!!!! Remember the good ole days of John Carpenter's The Thing, when the monster had to be CREATED???



Truly, in my Vanity, this Topic is near and dear to my heart.

Anyone who doesn't know Al Adamson's body of work is poorer for it! ::)


btw- The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (Jodie Foster; 1976) was on the other night, on TCM, and they showed 13 year old Foster nude! I was kinda shocked that they let that on cable. She had quite a creepy maturity back then (she seems quite attuned to what's going on in the love scene). I am so sure she was passed around. anyhow,....creepy creepy,...

The Other was on after that. Awesome photography by Surtees. Great story!



hey snyprrr, don 't you have to go to the Depot??? (oh yea,..see ya!)
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: drogulus on October 30, 2010, 01:45:40 PM

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     I'm sorry....what?
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: DavidW on October 30, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Snips when you leave Ernie scratch his head speechless then you've REALLY gone over the top! :D
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: DavidW on October 30, 2010, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: drogulus on October 29, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
     Killer Klowns from Outer Space wasn't really as dumb as all that. It was really quite imaginative. It used "dumb horror flick" as a jumping off place to ponder a deep and urgent issue: What if clowns really were killers from outer space? What, if anything, could we do about it?

I like that movie, add in Critters and you have yourself a fun 80s horror night! :)
Title: Re: Dumbest Horror Flick You Ever Saw
Post by: snyprrr on October 30, 2010, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: DavidW on October 30, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
Snips when you leave Ernie scratch his head speechless then you've REALLY gone over the top! :D

LOL,...DIRECT HIT!

No, really,...it's hours later and I'm checking the Thread, and I get to my post,..haha, and it goes on and on and on,... and then Drog's response,... I had to wipe spray off the computer! :o ;D

It's 3;30 am,...I have The Answer:



Teen Wolf

or was that Teen Wolf 2?