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Title: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 08:21:28 AM
Well, I always enjoy having a "listening resolution" at the start of each year and sometimes I even stick to them for a few months. ;D

This year, my resolution for classical music is to listen to a performance of a symphony each Saturday that I have not spun in a while, preferably over a year.  After a full listen each week, I hope to have time to return to one of the movements and give that a second listen to top it off.

Installment #1:

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Symphony No.1

I chose this one because Brahms is on and off my listening radar, but since I am continuously returning to his music, I wanted to kick it into gear again.  I have found this first symphony of his to be the most accessible to me so I started from the top.  Also, I am considering a Böhm recording of this composition and wanted to revisit it before I pulled the trigger.  The revisit only solidified my intent to place the order. 

However, there was some downside with this cd.  The sound of this recording was a bit thick and muddied, but I have come to expect that somewhat from HvK recordings, and for that matter, many of the symphony DG recordings I am starting to revisit  (ie Bernstein's Mozart with the VPO).  As for the performance, it seemed fairly passionate, but I much prefer my 1951 Furtwängler on the Music & Arts label which seems slower and a bit more defined.  (I would have to check the timings, but I am listening to the first movement of the Furtwängler as I type and it seems less rushed to me.)

As for the movement that I took in again after a full listen, I went with the second.   The BPO's strings under HvK are always at their best when not at a fast pace.....gorgeous.

Well, this Furtwängler of the 1st is now on the third movement, and I have no desire to pop it out.  Might as well let it play through.:)  Feel free to join the Saturday Symphony listening thread, or just post thoughts on the listening you read about here.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bulldog on January 08, 2011, 09:07:13 AM
Last year was the only time I had a "listening resolution".  It was to really dig into Stravinsky's music; didn't happen. 
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Brahmsian on January 08, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
My 'listening resolution' is to start back up my music log.  Also, each month I will pay special attention to composers birth/death months. 

For January, I'm focusing on listening to a lot of Mozart and Schubert (both born in January).
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 08, 2011, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: Bulldog on January 08, 2011, 09:07:13 AM
Last year was the only time I had a "listening resolution".  It was to really dig into Stravinsky's music; didn't happen.

This year I determined to listen to some new (to me) composers from this side of the Great Divide (1900). So far, I have had Bartok & Bax. That's a good start. :)

8)

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Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on January 08, 2011, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 08, 2011, 09:30:30 AM
This year I determined to listen to some new (to me) composers from this side of the Great Divide (1900). So far, I have had Bartok & Bax. That's a good start. :)
Did the earth just shift on its axis?   :o  (That is a good start!)

I like the idea, Bill--"Symphony Saturday."  Once a week revisiting many of those recordings I've heard once or twice but haven't taken off the shelf since.  The only weekly tradition I now observe is to hear baroque music on Sunday morning.  Telemann's already queued up for the morrow!



Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 08, 2011, 01:06:02 PM
Did the earth just shift on its axis?   :o  (That is a good start!)

I like the idea, Bill--"Symphony Saturday."  Once a week revisiting many of those recordings I've heard once or twice but haven't taken off the shelf since.  The only weekly tradition I now observe is to hear baroque music on Sunday morning.  Telemann's already queued up for the morrow!

That has been my wife's run for a year or so now, David.  She usually just streams baroque on the main level, while I garner some of it, but occasionally grab a listen to other eras in the basement. :)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Scarpia on January 08, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
Quote from: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 08:21:28 AM
Well, I always enjoy having a "listening resolution" at the start of each year and sometimes I even stick to them for a few months. ;D

This year, my resolution for classical music is to listen to a performance of a symphony each Saturday that I have not spun in a while, preferably over a year.  After a full listen each week, I hope to have time to return to one of the movements and give that a second listen to top it off.

My first installment:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bAHZgHgUL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

I chose this one because Brahms is on and off my listening radar, but since I am continuously returning to his music, I wanted to kick it into gear again.  I have found this first symphony of his to be the most accessible to me so I started from the top.  Also, I am considering a Böhm recording of this composition and wanted to revisit it before I pulled the trigger.  The revisit only solidified my intent to place the order. 

However, there was some downside with this cd.  The sound of this recording was a bit thick and muddied, but I have come to expect that somewhat from HvK recordings, and for that matter, many of the symphony DG recordings I am starting to revisit  (ie Bernstein's Mozart with the VPO).  As for the performance, it seemed fairly passionate, but I much prefer my 1951 Furtwängler on the Music & Arts label which seems slower and a bit more defined.  (I would have to check the timings, but I am listening to the first movement of the Furtwängler as I type and it seems less rushed to me.)

As for the movement that I took in again after a full listen, I went with the second.   The BPO's strings under HvK are always at their best when not at a fast pace.....gorgeous.

I have that set, had it originally on LP, and it is clearly my least favorite among Herbie's efforts.  The winds and brass are muffled, giving a string-dominated sonority that is not appropriate for Brahms.  There is some wonderful string playing (what stands out in my mind is the second movement of the 4th symphony) but overall disappointing.  I find the Karajan 2nd from the 80's to be remarkable, as well as the 4th from the 60's (astonishingly slow tempo in the first movement, which works remarkably well).  There are also some old Karajan recordings of Brahms from the Walter Legge era on EMI, but I haven't had a chance to listen.  Other than those, I generally look else where for my favorite Brahms symphony recordings.
 
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 07:09:44 PM
Yup.  Listenable,.....but too many other options to suspect that this is the one to have.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Scarpia on January 08, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
Quote from: Bogey on January 08, 2011, 07:09:44 PM
Yup.  Listenable,.....but too many other options to suspect that this is the one to have.

I am somewhat mystified why DG has released the 70's cycle in so many forms, but has never released the 60's cycle as a set.  I have all four symphonies from the 60's cycle, picked up as odds and ends, but it take some looking to find them.  The sound is better than the 70's version.

Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: mahler10th on January 12, 2011, 03:40:54 AM
This will prove to be an interesting post.  I'll be watching weekly.  I might even have a go at posting a Saturday Symphony myself.  Listening wholly to a Symphony on a Saturday is likely to be a wholly satisfying practice.
My favourite Brahms, yes, the very Herr Johannes Brahms, that fellow whom I have a personal issue with for single handedly destroying the carreer of...hang on, sorry....eh...There is something I think Brahms himself would like in Antal Dorati's old take on Mercury.  I like the rawness and power Dorati brings, and Brahms desired frontspiece for concert posters - a shillouette of him with a GUN inside his head - seems to be well reflected in Doratis boiling touch on the symphonies.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 13, 2011, 05:41:59 PM
Quote from: John on January 12, 2011, 03:40:54 AM
This will prove to be an interesting post.  I'll be watching weekly.  I might even have a go at posting a Saturday Symphony myself.  Listening wholly to a Symphony on a Saturday is likely to be a wholly satisfying practice.
My favourite Brahms, yes, the very Herr Johannes Brahms, that fellow whom I have a personal issue with for single handedly destroying the carreer of...hang on, sorry....eh...There is something I think Brahms himself would like in Antal Dorati's old take on Mercury.  I like the rawness and power Dorati brings, and Brahms desired frontspiece for concert posters - a shillouette of him with a GUN inside his head - seems to be well reflected in Doratis boiling touch on the symphonies.


Great to see you posting, John.  How is the F1 season shaping up?
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: mahler10th on January 13, 2011, 07:01:33 PM
Quote from: Bogey on January 13, 2011, 05:41:59 PM
Great to see you posting, John.  How is the F1 season shaping up?

LOL.   :) The Season starts in March!
What are you lining up for this Saturdays Symphony then?  Something that was released last December six years ago sometime during May in about three years time?
;) :P
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 15, 2011, 08:29:28 AM
Week #2 Installment:

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Symphony No. 5

Really enjoyed this one.  The two highlights for were the second (Alegro marcato) and the third (Adagio) movements.   Both made think of Hitchcockian settings.  The second movement had me picturing Strangers on a Train while the third movement pushed me at point to scenes from the stairwell in Vertigo.  In any case, I chose to listen to the second movement twice due to the "dubious" piano that I heard flash in and out toward the start of the movement....brilliant!

I also took in Symphony No.1.  I thought at first I had a Solti Haydn disc, but when I went to check it was already over. ;)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on January 15, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
Nice choice, Bill.  I like the 1st quite a bit and think it's underrated by those who think music after a certain date must be "difficult" or novel to be good.  And the 5th is one of my faves in the symphonic repertoire.

Hmmm...wife has just left for lunch with friends.  What shall I choose?  Something rarely heard, perhaps only once since acquiring it?  Ah!  How about:

[asin]B000001489[/asin] ?
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 22, 2011, 03:54:39 PM
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 15, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
Nice choice, Bill.  I like the 1st quite a bit and think it's underrated by those who think music after a certain date must be "difficult" or novel to be good.  And the 5th is one of my faves in the symphonic repertoire.

Hmmm...wife has just left for lunch with friends.  What shall I choose?  Something rarely heard, perhaps only once since acquiring it?  Ah!  How about:


:D
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 22, 2011, 04:22:09 PM
Week #3 Installment:

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Symphony No. 6

Sibelius said about this symphony, "The shadows lengthen...."  Thought it would be a decent line up with my flu(?) riddled body.  Even with a slight headache, this one came across and wrapped me up like a warm blanket.  The liner notes also discussed the "haze" of this effort.  I am one to champion the other end of the spectrum in that "clarity" carries the day from my point of view.  Just my take.  As for the repeated movement this week, that was given to the last movement.  The pacing just grabbed me tonight.  Deep, even with the light winds, but not overpowering.  The strings almost had a BPO/HvK sound to them in this final movement, and that never hurts. ;)

Your rec of this set many moons ago still pays dividends to my ears, David.  I raise my hot cup of Earl Grey to you. :)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on January 22, 2011, 06:38:55 PM
And I raise my cuppa Chai to you, Bill!  Today, as already noted elsewhere, I turned my attention to Bruckner's 8th, by Jochum and the SKD.  In short, there are moments of beauty and the adagio is lovely, but there's too much bombastic brass and repetitive Wagner worship in the rest to please me.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: RJR on January 27, 2011, 07:47:36 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on January 08, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
My 'listening resolution' is to start back up my music log.  Also, each month I will pay special attention to composers birth/death months. 

For January, I'm focusing on listening to a lot of Mozart and Schubert (both born in January).
Today is Mozart's birthday. How about the Clarinet Quintet to celebrate? Or K595.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: RJR on January 27, 2011, 07:49:38 AM
I raise my hot cup of Earl Grey to you.

Whose blend?
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: karlhenning on January 27, 2011, 08:09:20 AM
Quote from: RJR on January 27, 2011, 07:47:36 AM
Today is Mozart's birthday. How about the Clarinet Quintet to celebrate?

But, it's not a symphony . . . .
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on January 27, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 27, 2011, 08:09:20 AM
But, it's not a symphony . . . .
Nor is it a Saturday...not even in Queensland!
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 27, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: RJR on January 27, 2011, 07:49:38 AM
I raise my hot cup of Earl Grey to you.

Whose blend?

Nothing fancy:

(http://www.coffeeforless.com/images/uploads/intro/bigelow%20earl%20grey.jpg)

One of those deals where it was a cheap tea, but I really liked it.  However, I am not opposed to recommendations. :)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 27, 2011, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: RJR on January 27, 2011, 07:47:36 AM
Today is Mozart's birthday. How about the Clarinet Quintet to celebrate? Or K595.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 27, 2011, 08:09:20 AM
But, it's not a symphony . . . .
Quote from: DavidRoss on January 27, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
Nor is it a Saturday...not even in Queensland!

Ah, but the key is that a Mozart piece was used, and that can loophole the intent here anytime. ;D
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 29, 2011, 05:51:50 AM
Week #4 Installment:

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Symphony No. 77,  in B flat major, Hoboken 1/77

As you know there are 104 of these written by Papa, but this is my favored of the ones I have heard.  (I have not made it through all of them yet, but that will be a goal over the next couple years).  This one I discovered when I used to buy the BBC Music magazine and it was glued to the cover as a free cd.  The one that BBC offered was paired with No. 77, but was not under Fischer, but rather Hogwood and the AAM.  If I had to keep just one, it would be the Hogwood.  The Fischer is nice, but it ain't Hogwood!  Too bad Christopher did not finish up the cycle and that the ones he did are a bit pricey. ;D

As for the movement that grabbed me for a second listen, I thought it was going to be the first, as that is my favorite of the four.  Just "springy" and full of life.  However, I insted returned to the Finale: Allegro spiritoso.  It just seemed very Mozart-ish to me.  It had just a tinge of deepness added that seemed to make it stand out.

I found this snippet on the wiki thread (which I do believe is a leak ;D):

In 1782, almost a decade before Haydn composed the first of his famous London symphonies, he composed a trio of symphonies – 76, 77 and 78 – for a trip to London which fell through.  Haydn wrote the following to his Paris music publisher Boyer on July 15, 1783:
Last year I composed 3 beautiful, magnificent and by no means over-lengthy Symphonies, scored for 2 violins, viola, basso, 2 horns, 2 oboes, 1 flute and 1 bassoon – but they are all very easy, and without too much concertante – for the English gentlemen, and I intended to bring them over myself and produce them there: but a certain circumstance hindered that plan, and so I am willing to hand over these 3 Symphonies.

Boyer wanted exclusive rights, but Haydn refused.

It is not known how much Haydn knew of the tastes of English audiences, but the three symphonies do possess a polish and style typical of London composers such as Johann Christian Bach and Carl Friedrich Abel. As noted in the letter, the winds have very few measures where they do not support the strings, they are used primarily to add color.

Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 29, 2011, 06:15:47 AM
Bill,
An excellent choice!  Those 3 and the next 3 (79 - 81) are among the most overlooked of Haydn's great symphonic output. I guess people look at the early ones for enlightenment on where he was coming from, and the Storm & Stress for the emotion, and then they jump to Paris & London for maturity, totally overlooking that there were some damned fine ones written in between time. And that correspondence with the publisher explains why: when he renegotiated his contract with Esterhazy, he was able to get dropped the stipulation that the Prince owned all the music, so now he could legally sell it to publishers. Money brought out the best in him. :D   Have a good afternoon with those, if I wasn't overwhelmed with work, I would join you. :)

8)

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Combattimento Consort Amsterdam \ de Vriend     Paul van Zelm (Horn) - K 386b 412 514 Concerto #1 in D for Horn 1st mvmt - Allegro
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 29, 2011, 06:37:57 AM
I may just have to dive into this run this week, Gurn.  If you would not mind, could you break down the Symphony periods of Haydn for me on the Haydn thread later this week.  You can just call this period the "overlooked" or did it have a name?
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 29, 2011, 06:41:07 AM
I also have this 77 on the shelf....I may have to give it a spin today:

(http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/non-muze/full/146318.jpg)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Gurn Blanston on January 29, 2011, 06:55:05 AM
Quote from: Bogey on January 29, 2011, 06:41:07 AM
I also have this 77 on the shelf....I may have to give it a spin today:

(http://www.arkivmusic.com/graphics/covers/non-muze/full/146318.jpg)

I don't have that particular disk, but I do have 3 Orpheus Haydn disks, and enjoy them a lot. I like their style. Go for it and let us know what YOU think. :)

Yes, I will be interested in doing a series like you suggest. Have to get some research done, since I haven't seen anything specifically on that. Look for the first installment coming soon to an Haus near you. :)

8)


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Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 29, 2011, 07:04:11 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 29, 2011, 06:55:05 AM
I don't have that particular disk, but I do have 3 Orpheus Haydn disks, and enjoy them a lot. I like their style. Go for it and let us know what YOU think. :)

Yes, I will be interested in doing a series like you suggest. Have to get some research done, since I haven't seen anything specifically on that. Look for the first installment coming soon to an Haus near you. :)

8)


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Now playing:
Paul Badura-Skoda - Hob 17 6 Andante con variazioni in f for Keyboard

Some of them may not have a named period, but maybe what Haydn was doing at the time could give them some identity.  I look forward to seeing what you come up with. :)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: karlhenning on January 29, 2011, 08:12:21 AM
Bill, you're sticking to the symphonies where I was unable to (or, have been unable, as yet). I salute you!
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on January 29, 2011, 08:47:41 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 29, 2011, 08:12:21 AM
Bill, you're sticking to the symphonies where I was unable to (or, have been unable, as yet). I salute you!

You know, I thought the earth would be quite soft for a weekly choice of these, but it is harder to dig in that I had first thought.  It is one thing to listen to a symphony.  It is another to "have" to listen to a symphony on a particular day, so we are not that far apart here, Karl.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on February 06, 2011, 01:29:37 PM
Installment #5 (better late than never ;D)

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Symphony No. 4, K19

Considering this was written by Mozart when he was 9(?), it sure has a beautiful maturity about it, especially the second movement, which got played twice today.  I forgot how much I enjoyed these early symphonies of Wolfie.  The Tate box above does not receive the attention that the Hogwood set usually gets (and probably rightfully so), but I like Tate's approach.  Not fancy, not too sparkling, but rather just clean and enjoyable takes.  However, I would not mind snapping up a Hogwood cycle down the road.  I may just have to work through this set for the next week or so. 
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: mahler10th on February 06, 2011, 06:34:54 PM
For Bogey:

Enjoy, because Tate is too light for my Mozart.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on February 07, 2011, 12:03:09 PM
Well, Bill, it's after Saturday and the symphony is not one that I rarely hear, but it's what I wanted to hear right now:

Mahler 1, Kubelik on Audite
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on February 12, 2011, 05:37:10 AM
Installment #6

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Franck, Symphony in D Minor
Rec. 11 October 1927


The Philadelphia is full of life and energy on this recording.  One can sense the power throughout the first movement and cannot help but wishing they had been there to see this performance in person.

What is kind of cool about this recording is that Stokowski decided to record his voice outlining the themes of the piece.  He is accompanied by Artur Rodzinsky (I believe he had a Cleveland stint, Sarge!) at the piano.

There is a 1935 recording(?) of this that I need to track down.  It would be interesting to follow his career through the early to late recordings.  (Que, can you help me here?)


It is also on this set (a concert from 1970) when Stokowski was 88. 
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FTviSQtPL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Here is a portrait of the maestro form 1928:

(http://www.stokowski.org/images/stokowski1927_steichen.jpg)
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on February 12, 2011, 05:48:10 AM
To start the day:

[asin]B0002NRRFQ[/asin]
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: mahler10th on February 12, 2011, 05:56:18 AM
Stokowski is hit and miss with me.  Sometimes he overplays where its not necessary, he rarely underplays, and when he does, his own thoughts on the matter are conveyed through the music.  I am not always taken by his own thoughts on the matter.  What thoughts have you on the conducting of Franck's Symphony in D?  Mind you, the recording is almost 90 years old, so I guess maybe it's hard to tell unless the remastering is outstanding?
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Sergeant Rock on February 12, 2011, 05:57:28 AM
Quote from: Bogey on February 12, 2011, 05:37:10 AM
He is accompanied by Artur Rodzinsky (I believe he had a Cleveland stint, Sarge!)

He was the Cleveland Orchestra's music director for 11 years (1933-43) and much loved by the board, musicians and patrons. It was a blow to the city when New York stole him.


Thread duty: Havergal Brian's Second Symphony.

Sarge
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on February 12, 2011, 06:12:01 AM
Quote from: John on February 12, 2011, 05:56:18 AM
Stokowski is hit and miss with me.  Sometimes he overplays where its not necessary, he rarely underplays, and when he does, his own thoughts on the matter are conveyed through the music.  I am not always taken by his own thoughts on the matter.  What thoughts have you on the conducting of Franck's Symphony in D?  Mind you, the recording is almost 90 years old, so I guess maybe it's hard to tell unless the remastering is outstanding?

Interesting take, John.  It has been a while since I visited this one and I only have the Bernstein one on the shelf to compare it with (but I notice that Lenny takes the first movement two minutes slower).  However, back to what interests me is I believe this was not unusual for Leopold to give things his own twist.  I believe his* take on things is part of  the package you get with him....so far I have enjoyed the little I have heard:

*
http://www.myloc.gov/Exhibitions/musicandanimation/fantasia/ExhibitObjects/AdaptationforANightOnBaldMountain.aspx
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Que on February 12, 2011, 08:57:58 AM
Quote from: Bogey on February 12, 2011, 05:37:10 AM
Installment #6

(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/Feb06/Stokowski_premieres_CD1173.jpg)

Franck, Symphony in D Minor
Rec. 11 October 1927


The Philadelphia is full of life and energy on this recording.  One can sense the power throughout the first movement and cannot help but wishing they had been there to see this performance in person.

What is kind of cool about this recording is that Stokowski decided to record his voice outlining the themes of the piece.  He is accompanied by Artur Rodzinsky (I believe he had a Cleveland stint, Sarge!) at the piano.

There is a 1935 recording(?) of this that I need to track down.  It would be interesting to follow his career through the early to late recordings.  (Que, can you help me here?)

Bill, as far I know there is only one CD issue but of excellent quality:

[asin]B000009KEQ[/asin]

Biddulph, WHL 11: Leopold Stokowski conducts Music from France (Vol. I)
Franck: Symphony in d, ['35] Andante from Grans Piece Symphonique, ['37] Panis Angelicus ['36]; Satie: Gymnopedies #1 & 2 ['37]; Dukas: Sorcerer's Apprentice ['37]; Thomas: Gavotte from Mignon ['37]; Berlioz: Hungarian March ['27] MONO Phila.   (Transfers by Mark Obert-Thorn.)

More generally, besides the series on Biddulph, this set (Andante) is a nice starter on early Stokowski recordings:

[asin]B00005U588[/asin]

Q

Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: RJR on February 14, 2011, 04:36:33 AM
Quote from: Bogey on January 27, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Nothing fancy:

(http://www.coffeeforless.com/images/uploads/intro/bigelow%20earl%20grey.jpg)

One of those deals where it was a cheap tea, but I really liked it.  However, I am not opposed to recommendations. :)
I was looking for a recommendation myself, that's why I asked. I know Bigelow but that was many years ago. Used to buy Twinings as well. In the tin.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on February 14, 2011, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: RJR on February 14, 2011, 04:36:33 AM
I was looking for a recommendation myself, that's why I asked. I know Bigelow but that was many years ago. Used to buy Twinings as well. In the tin.
Nowadays I generally prefer stronger black tea blends (i.e. Peet's Russian Caravan), but for years Twining's Earl Grey was my fave.  If you want to try a different Earl Grey, you might consider:

(http://cf.mp-cdn.net/3c/c0/3a9328f3a0197cd9748818750a5c.jpg)
also available in 4 oz loose leaf tins, and available with lavender instead of bergamot.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on February 19, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Thanks, Que for the Stokowski leads.  Speaking of which, I believe you rec. this one to me many moons back:

Installment #7

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Beethoven Symphony No. 4
Recorded live in Berlin, 1943


As David pointed out on his 4th Symphony thread, this one gets is underrated probably due to it getting buried by the 3rd and 5th that envelope it.  However, when given to the likes of Furtwängler, the passion he infuses into it reminds you that it holds its own with LvB's iconic symphonies.  I also have this on the Music a& Arts label (which I am spinning now), but the Melodia above is allowed to breathe a bit more and there seems to be less noise reduction.  Also, Que, can you check something for me.  The M&A has the 4th being recorded on June 27 and 30th, while the Melodia just notes the 27th.  The timings are about the same and the only difference is that they probably transferred a few more seconds here and there.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Que on February 20, 2011, 01:08:02 AM
Quote from: Bogey on February 19, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
Que, can you check something for me.  The M&A has the 4th being recorded on June 27 and 30th, while the Melodia just notes the 27th.  The timings are about the same and the only difference is that they probably transferred a few more seconds here and there.

Bill, I posted my response on the Furtwängler thread HERE (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,415.msg492700.html#msg492700).

Q
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on February 27, 2011, 08:24:26 AM
Installment #8

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Short Symphony (Symphony No. 2)

I tend to return to my Copland cds around this time of year, probably due to the fact that I have heard numerous film scores over the past few weeks getting ready for the Academy Awards.  This cd is a favorite.  I believe that Benji and David rec. it to me and the short symphony is a treat.  What strikes me most about it is how Copland gets under way without any build up. Almost as if the first movement was missing.  Very Copland-esque piece and of course MTT is brilliant with this entire cd of must hear music.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on February 27, 2011, 08:56:39 AM
Ahh...yesterday listened to Rattie's new Mahler 2--hardly a symphony that's seldom heard around Chez Sherman.  Think I'll follow your lead with the Copland, Bill--nice suggestion!
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: karlhenning on February 27, 2011, 02:06:53 PM
It will be Monday for me, but I find that it is time for me, too, to revisit the Short Symphony.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on February 27, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 27, 2011, 02:06:53 PM
It will be Monday for me, but I find that it is time for me, too, to revisit the Short Symphony.

I think we all better just mosey on down to the Copland Coral next week, Karl. ;D
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Grazioso on February 28, 2011, 04:30:33 AM
Quote from: Bogey on January 27, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Nothing fancy:

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One of those deals where it was a cheap tea, but I really liked it.  However, I am not opposed to recommendations. :)

No particular recommendation for Earl Grey since it's not something I drink regularly, but I highly recommend that anyone who likes tea try quality loose tea. You won't regret it: you can get vastly better flavor and far wider variety. No tea bags to chuck, either (environmental waste). IMO, it's also more fun to brew it the traditional way.

Tea is, after all, the thing that separates us from the animals. So enjoy the best  :D

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Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: karlhenning on February 28, 2011, 05:02:48 AM
Loose tea is always good. I have a tea basket at the office.

Thread duty:

I'm in with the Short Symphony; I think I may have a sentimental preference for the Sextet, but I do like the 'full score' version very well, too.
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Bogey on March 05, 2011, 05:32:39 AM
Installment #9

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Symphony 1 and 2

Sweeping, full-bodied, absolutely beautiful!  Why is this the only Hanson cd I have on my shelf!?
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: Grazioso on March 05, 2011, 06:28:03 AM
Quote from: Bogey on March 05, 2011, 05:32:39 AM
Installment #9

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61SVLc1eoyL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Symphony 1 and 2

Sweeping, full-bodied, absolutely beautiful!  Why is this the only Hanson cd I have on my shelf!?

If you can find them, there are two Delos double CD sets with his complete symphonies. Gerard Schwarz conducting the Seattle SO.  One set is apparently OP now :(
Title: Re: Saturday Symphony
Post by: DavidRoss on March 05, 2011, 09:57:59 AM
Okay, Bill  ;D

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