Poll
Question:
Which one???
Option 1: George Harrison
votes: 8
Option 2: John Lennon
votes: 8
Option 3: Paul McCartney
votes: 7
Option 4: Ringo Starr
votes: 4
8)
George Harrison. Because he was a Wilbury.
George Harrison.
If you have to ask, then you probably wouldn't understand anyway.
Ringo Starr because he is a lot of fun, never pretentious and the only underrated Beatle. 8)
Paul, because he's cute.
No, that's not it... :-[
Lennon, because he was the tormented soul who was never quite content with where/who he was, and then when he seemed to reach a point where he was content, a much less agreeably tormented soul robbed him of his life.
Gosh, I just cast a Pity Vote, didn't I?
Lennon, because he was interesting.
That cruel participle . . . .
My head said George.
My funny bone said Paul.
Paul won.
I'm a sucker for a sense of humor.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 08, 2011, 02:18:07 PM
That cruel participle . . . .
As in the (apocryphal?) Chinese proverb. But dammit, he was!
"Julia"
sends me, but I still hear a tremor of horror in it. Gives me the shivers.
All this stuff about being interesting, or cute, or not pretentious, and the stuff about the indications of funny bones and the like ... they all have to be considered, yes; but these things pale, do they not, when faced with the simple Wilburian challenge?
Picture it: the throng is milling (as throngs are wont to do). The clatter of teacups mingles with the chatter of debate, from which words drift above the background now and then: 'Paul' ... 'oh so cute' ... 'but he can be slightly interesting' ... 'Ringo' ... 'Thomas the tank engine' ... John ... 'ah yes, tortured' ... 'what about Pete Best?' ... and so it goes on until sooner or later a single question, quietly asked, brings the whole room to silent contemplation and the shaking of heads:
'but was he a Wilbury?'
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 08, 2011, 08:25:14 AM
Lennon, because he was the tormented soul who was never quite content with where/who he was, and then when he seemed to reach a point where he was content, a much less agreeably tormented soul robbed him of his life.
And she still hasn't been punished for her crime.
That's very funny, even if it's not remotely true. Without Yoko I think John would have truly perished far earlier. With her, he finally found some peace, even if it broke the Beatles. Without John's artistic vision, I can picture the Beatles as a moneymaking show machine of old men, as pathetic as The Rolling Stones.
Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 12:56:32 AM
Without Yoko I think John would have truly perished far earlier.
That's silly. Lennon didn't "perish", he was murdered by some crazy wacko. I don't think there was ever any point in which he was teetering towards his own demise. And he never found peace with Yoko Ono, he just lost himself into her. She became the master, and him the slave. He squandered his own creative gifts and got bossed around by a pretentious quack. This is what it comes down to in the end.
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 02:20:44 AM
She became the master, and him the slave. He squandered his own creative gifts and got bossed around by a pretentious quack. This is what it comes down to in the end.
Yep, with you and women it always comes down to that in the end.
Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 12:56:32 AM
Without John's artistic vision, I can picture the Beatles as a moneymaking show machine of old men, as pathetic as The Rolling Stones.
Not as pathetic as giving up a successful music career to become an househusband. Yoko didn't just brake up the Beatles, she destroyed Lennon and turned him into a pathetic, impotent creature.
Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 02:31:02 AM
Yep, with you and women it always comes down to that in the end.
I can say the same thing about you and the rest of this forum. Your belief that women are wonderful creatures who can do no wrong under any circumstance his blinding you to the truth of what actually happened to Lennon.
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 02:40:59 AM
I can say the same thing about you and the rest of this forum. Your belief that women are wonderful creatures who can do no wrong under any circumstance his blinding you to the truth of what actually happened to Lennon.
;D
Well, its easy to prove. If you ever listened to one of Yoko Ono's songs and didn't recoil in horror then you are as guilty as charged.
Her artistic quality isn't under discussion here, but her influence on John's life and his peace of mind. Women actually can have positive effects on men, you know.
Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 02:51:14 AM
Women actually can have positive effects on men, you know.
Well, you have to argue that with this guy:
(http://www.scriptoriumdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/nietzsche.jpg)
The problem here is that in this case this woman
didn't have a positive effect on Lennon's life. Quite the contrary. She turned him into an aberration. That he was quite
peaceful in his annihilated state is besides the point.
Lots of talkin' about Yoko Ono in this thread.
Why can't I find her name in the poll?
I picked Ringo btw.
He was the band's binding agent, even (or: even more so) when he quit during the 'White Album' sessions.
And if I had not picked Ringo, I would have picked Pete Best. Or Stu Sutcliffe.
Or Murray the K.
Or William Campbell.
:P
Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 02:51:14 AM
Her artistic quality isn't under discussion here, but her influence on John's life and his peace of mind. Women actually can have positive effects on men, you know.
Should we presume that your wife was looking over your shoulder as you wrote that?
I'm not currently in a position to dare answer that. ;D
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 02:40:59 AM
I can say the same thing about you and the rest of this forum. Your belief that women are wonderful creatures who can do no wrong under any circumstance his blinding you to the truth of what actually happened to Lennon.
Good morning, strawman!
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 02:40:59 AM
I can say the same thing about you and the rest of this forum.
It's so nice to see somebody who knows NOTHING about anyone else on this forum acting like jackass and general know-it-all. Good job, sir. ::)
Nice to see some votes for Ringo, anyway. No surprise that he's lagging.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 09, 2011, 08:44:38 AM
Good morning, strawman!
Erm, actually, i'm just returning a strawman in kind (that I hate all women, and that I believe they cannot improve a man's life). I thought it was obvious i was playing his own tune back at him.
Makes me wonder if you have read anything about John Lennon at all? No doubt he was both mean and selfdestructive and not a nice guy at all, however charming and gifted (and still I voted for him). Whatever one feels about Yoko's artistic production, she provided sanity to him in an important period of his life.
I voted for Lennon with Harrison coming in a close second.
Congrats to Sir Paul on the new wife. :)
Hard to choose, but I've gone for the sympathy/nice bloke vote and picked Ringo, if only as a reaction to Lennon's famous quip:
Lennon, when asked if Starr was the best drummer in the world, jokingly replied, "He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles!"
Quote from: MDL on October 09, 2011, 10:02:09 AM
Hard to choose, but I've gone for the sympathy/nice bloke vote and picked Ringo, if only as a reaction to Lennon's famous quip:
Lennon, when asked if Starr was the best drummer in the world, jokingly replied, "He's not even the best drummer in The Beatles!"
Meaning McCartney was.
Quote from: Mn Dave on October 09, 2011, 09:36:34 AM
Congrats to Sir Paul on the new wife. :)
Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 09, 2011, 08:57:43 AM
Nice to see some votes for Ringo, anyway. No surprise that he's lagging.
You wait and see. Once the Thomas The Tank Engine fans start voting, there'll be no stopping him, and then the Fat Controller will rule the World.
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 03:03:14 AMWell, you have to argue that with this guy
You mean the great thinker who lost his marbles, possibly from syphilis?
Quote from: Todd on October 09, 2011, 11:52:36 AM
You mean the great thinker who lost his marbles, possibly from syphilis?
How did he lose his marbles? His thinking was penetrating as ever. But if you don't like Nietzsche you can always turn to this other guy:
(http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/portrait.jpg)
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 01:44:40 PM
(http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/portrait.jpg)
"We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be in the Plastic Ono Band."
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 09, 2011, 01:44:40 PMHow did he lose his marbles?
I must assume you are joking. In any event, German philosophy was never my thing.
Quote from: The new erato on October 09, 2011, 07:58:45 AM
I'm not currently in a position to dare answer that. ;D
;D :-X