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Title: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Octo_Russ on October 30, 2011, 02:59:15 PM
I've heard different definitions of what constitutes a contemporary Composer, so is it,

A - A Composer who is alive today
B - A Composer who's life overlaps your own
C - A Composer born in the last hundred years
D - Something else?

I've always taken it to mean the first definition, but now i'm wondering that the second definition might be more accurate, any thoughts?
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Bulldog on October 30, 2011, 04:02:24 PM
Quote from: Octo_Russ on October 30, 2011, 02:59:15 PM
I've heard different definitions of what constitutes a contemporary Composer, so is it,

A - A Composer who is alive today
B - A Composer who's life overlaps your own
C - A Composer born in the last hundred years
D - Something else?

I've always taken it to mean the first definition, but now i'm wondering that the second definition might be more accurate, any thoughts?

To me, simply being alive today isn't sufficient; the composer might not have composed one note for the last fifty years.  So I'd have to go with the idea that the composer is currently active in his/her profession.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Brahmsian on October 30, 2011, 04:34:42 PM
Weren't Bach, Palestrina, Perotin all contemporary composers at some point?  To me, it's a pointless definition.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: petrarch on October 30, 2011, 04:57:01 PM
I find the accuracy of the term irrelevant, as it probably still is the most useful convention to navigate a music store and get directions to the section with composers from Schönberg and Varèse onwards.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Brahmsian on October 30, 2011, 04:58:38 PM
Quote from: petrarch on October 30, 2011, 04:57:01 PM
I find the accuracy of the term irrelevant, as it probably still is the most useful convention to navigate a music store and get directions to the section with composers from Schönberg and Varèse onwards.

Yes, but is Schönberg's music contemporary in 2011?
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: petrarch on October 31, 2011, 03:59:32 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on October 30, 2011, 04:58:38 PM
Yes, but is Schönberg's music contemporary in 2011?

That is why I said I don't mind the inaccuracy of the term.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Karl Henning on October 31, 2011, 04:44:37 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on October 30, 2011, 04:34:42 PM
Weren't Bach, Palestrina, Perotin all contemporary composers at some point?

There'a a neon statement in the new wing at the MFA: All art has been contemporary.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Dax on October 31, 2011, 04:55:37 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on October 30, 2011, 04:34:42 PM
To me, it's a pointless definition.

(My emphasis)

Quite. Boulez is a contemporary composer, but Barraqué hasn't been so since 1973.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Mn Dave on October 31, 2011, 04:57:25 AM
Perhaps there are only comtemporary works.
Title: Re: What's the definition of a "contemporary" Composer?
Post by: Todd on October 31, 2011, 06:33:51 AM
Quote from: Bulldog on October 30, 2011, 04:02:24 PMSo I'd have to go with the idea that the composer is currently active in his/her profession.


Agreed.



Quote from: karlhenning on October 31, 2011, 04:44:37 AMAll art has been contemporary.


There's also the signoff line from Composer's Datebook (http://composersdatebook.publicradio.org/): "Reminding you that all music was once new."