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SPT. Or have you secretly moved to China?

No banana? Truly a poll that deserves such an option.

It will still be here Friday...maybe...

The banana option is in disguise.

I wonder what the favourite flavours of metals are for those bugs in the book you were (are?) reading.

Quote from: Opus106 on November 17, 2011, 07:37:41 AM
I wonder what the favourite flavours of metals are for those bugs in the book you were (are?) reading.

They like it all. :)

Quote from: Ataraxia on November 17, 2011, 07:38:04 AM
They like it all. :)

But what if each had to vote, for only a single flavour, like us?

Quote from: Opus106 on November 17, 2011, 07:40:12 AM
But what if each had to vote, for only a single flavour, like us?

Heavy.

no post-black?

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 07:46:32 AM
no post-black?

;D

Progressive

My first thought was: Why would someone want to eat metal?
My second thought was: What?
Third was: Jeepers, I need to get out more!!

Speed

(http://photos.imageevent.com/sgtrock/aug11/motorhead_ace-of-spades.jpg)



Sarge

Can someone explain these designations, please?  I listened to my share of (generic?) metal in the 80s, and revisit some from time-to-time now, but I've never understood the different categories.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRXI_duFbUind6YjTvjoqWg_PK1Qg6TUrIUA-ilgPVCea2vBhY0)

I'd probably vote for Stoner, if it was and opetion  A lot of fuzz, but a bit more psychedelic.  Most 80s metal never did much for me.

And the Banana is definitely an option.

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 10:36:21 AM
Can someone explain these designations, please?  I listened to my share of (generic?) metal in the 80s, and revisit some from time-to-time now, but I've never understood the different categories.

(some examples worth listening to)

Death
http://www.youtube.com/v/uNd3lqoNp5I

Black
http://www.youtube.com/v/lkvcAGFsQoc&feature=related

Doom (the garbling at the beginning is intentional)
http://www.youtube.com/v/94EZi03awhg&feature=related

power is Yngwie Malmsteen masturbatory guitar shredding crap with cheesy vocals, not worth listening to

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 11:32:00 AM
power is Yngwie Malmsteen masturbatory guitar shredding crap with cheesy vocals, not worth listening to

Surely not completely true!

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 11:32:00 AM

Death

Black

Doom (the garbling at the beginning is intentional)

Sounds like variants on Slayer, Nuclear Assault (with a less talented vocalist), and an unholy mix of Black Sabbath, late 80s Megadeth, and, what Scoprions, all presented in a non-ironic but should have been ironic vein, respectively.  I can handle Death Metal I suppose, though I'm scared to.  What if it made me want to commit suicide, and such, you know, like Ozzy's infamous Suicide Solution did, even though it has nothing to do with the topic?  I think I may just live happily in the 80s when it comes to metal.  I mean, really, what can top Master of Puppets anyway?

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 11:42:33 AM
I mean, really, what can top Master of Puppets anyway?

Loads.  ;D

Quote from: Ataraxia on November 17, 2011, 11:53:09 AMLoads.

Surely you do not refer to Load and Reload.  1986 was the greatest year ever for metal, and Master of Puppets is the greatest album of the bunch.

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 11:59:57 AM
Surely you do not refer to Load and Reload.  1986 was the greatest year ever for metal, and Master of Puppets is the greatest album of the bunch.

I don't know, Todd. I didn't really listen to it back then. I came into it late for some goddamn reason. And my favorite heavy band is Judas Priest. I wasn't a big thrash fan but am finding lots I like these days. And yes, Master of Puppets is a cool record.  8)

Quote from: Ataraxia on November 17, 2011, 12:01:48 PMAnd my favorite heavy band is Judas Priest.

I must give credit where credit is due, after Metallica (Damaged Justice) and Slayer (Touring in the Abyss), Judas Priest put on the best rock show I ever saw with the Painkiller tour.  Decades of working together and a deafeningly loud concert that got louder as it progressed left quite an impression.  (It still wasn't as loud as Metallica, though). 

PAIN! PAIN! KILLER! KILLER!

8)  >:D

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 11:42:33 AM

Sounds like variants on Slayer, Nuclear Assault (with a less talented vocalist), and an unholy mix of Black Sabbath, late 80s Megadeth, and, what Scoprions, all presented in a non-ironic but should have been ironic vein, respectively.  I can handle Death Metal I suppose, though I'm scared to.  What if it made me want to commit suicide, and such, you know, like Ozzy's infamous Suicide Solution did, even though it has nothing to do with the topic?  I think I may just live happily in the 80s when it comes to metal.  I mean, really, what can top Master of Puppets anyway?

of course people in the 80s said Judas Priest, Slayer, Maiden were just variants on Sabbath and Zeppelin etc

Be careful, as there have been significant advancements in backward masking technology over the past 20 years.  While the subliminal messaging in say, 80s Ozzy or Judas Priest, only affected a few weak-minded listeners,  the cookie monster vocals in contemporary death metal are much more effective means of encoding satanic mind control

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
of course people in the 80s said Judas Priest, Slayer, Maiden were just variants on Sabbath and Zeppelin etc

Be careful, as there have been significant advancements in backward masking technology over the past 20 years.  While the subliminal messaging in say, 80s Ozzy or Judas Priest, only affected a few weak-minded listeners,  the cookie monster vocals in contemporary death metal are much more effective means of encoding satanic mind control

I have NO idea what satanismymaster you are talking about!

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 12:24:15 PMof course people in the 80s said Judas Priest, Slayer, Maiden were just variants on Sabbath and Zeppelin etc

Not as it pertains to Zeppelin.  In fact, I don't recall anyone ever comparing, say, Megadeth to Zeppelin.  It's hard to see how Physical Graffiti or Led Zeppelin III are metal at all, and the first album is basically electric and distorted blues.

Now, Sabbath, that's a different matter.  Sabbath is the wellspring for all metal.  Everyone in the 80s knew it, and many bands were quite clear in citing Sabbath as an inspiration.  How could they not, with Ozzy still parading around near peak form?  Paranoid is one of the greatest of all metal (and/or rock) albums ever, and one can hear in it the genesis of speed metal, death metal, bloated, self-important metal, and every other kind of metal. 

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 12:35:51 PM
Now, Sabbath, that's a different matter.  Sabbath is the wellspring for all metal.  Everyone in the 80s knew it, and many bands were quite clear in citing Sabbath as an inspiration.  How could they not, with Ozzy still parading around near peak form?  Paranoid is one of the greatest of all metal (and/or rock) albums ever, and one can hear in it the genesis of speed metal, death metal, bloated, self-important metal, and every other kind of metal.

Yes, this everyone agrees on but I think Priest first made the music sound more "metallic." Turning heavy rock into heavy metal.

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 12:35:51 PM


Not as it pertains to Zeppelin.  In fact, I don't recall anyone ever comparing, say, Megadeth to Zeppelin.  It's hard to see how Physical Graffiti or Led Zeppelin III are metal at all, and the first album is basically electric and distorted blues.

Now, Sabbath, that's a different matter.  Sabbath is the wellspring for all metal.  Everyone in the 80s knew it, and many bands were quite clear in citing Sabbath as an inspiration.  How could they not, with Ozzy still parading around near peak form?  Paranoid is one of the greatest of all metal (and/or rock) albums ever, and one can hear in it the genesis of speed metal, death metal, bloated, self-important metal, and every other kind of metal.

agree that Sabbath was more influential, but Zeppelin was the inspiration for alot of 80s hair metal (particularly the obligatory power ballad)

I remember Rolling Stone magazine dismissing late-70s Judas Priest as an unoriginal Zeppelin knockoff

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 12:41:03 PM
I remember Rolling Stone magazine dismissing late-70s Judas Priest as an unoriginal Zeppelin knockoff

Ha! Idiots.

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2011, 12:41:03 PMbut Zeppelin was the inspiration for alot of 80s hair metal (particularly the obligatory power ballad)

I remember Rolling Stone magazine dismissing late-70s Judas Priest as an unoriginal Zeppelin knockoff

Mötley Crüe aside (how can one not like Shout at the Devil?!?, which does have some backward masking*), hair metal isn't metal, nor is it really even music.  Looks like Rolling Stone has published some interesting stuff.  Where is Priest's Out on the Tiles or Good Times, Bad Times?


* My old, 1980 Chevy Luv had a piece of crap tape deck that as often as not when one hit the reverse button would play the wrong side of the tape, so I got to listen to some albums backward.  Shout at the Devil has the words "helter skelter" in one of the songs (can't remember which), though not, ironically, the remake of Helter Skelter. 

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2011, 12:51:49 PM
Where is Priest's Out on the Tiles or Good Times, Bad Times?

Dunno. Not much of a Zep fan.

I know. Blasphemy.  ;D

AluminIum.

(as for the music stuff, I don't really listen to it too often nowadays, but Sabbath, Rainbow, Judas Priest, Megadeth should represent quite well my preferences.)

Finland, eh? You know these folk metalers?

http://www.korpiklaani.com/

Black metal all the way. I started out on thrash as a teenager and when that was dead by the late 80's I ignored most metal until black came along (I mean second wave, not Venom, Bathory etc). Never been a fan of much Death metal then or now although I am partial to a bit of Nile from time to time.

The taste of metal (iron) in blood!   :P

Quote from: Il Furioso on November 18, 2011, 04:57:05 AM
Never been a fan of much Death metal then or now although I am partial to a bit of Nile from time to time.

This part sounds like me.

I would probably vote for Progressive Metal, but it's not on the poll.
I know you couldn't add each specific genre, because there would be too many, but it should at least add that, Grindcore, Folk/Viking, Experimental, Industrial, Visual Kei, and Goth (the main stuff- subgenres don't have to be included).

Quote from: Greg on November 18, 2011, 05:35:44 AM
I would probably vote for Progressive Metal, but it's not on the poll.
I know you couldn't add each specific genre, because there would be too many, but it should at least add that, Grindcore, Folk/Viking, Experimental, Industrial, Visual Kei, and Goth (the main stuff- subgenres don't have to be included).

I guess I didn't consider those prominent enough to be on the list but I'm no expert.

Only death is real :)

http://www.youtube.com/v/0txKhaw-WaE

Warning: astute socio-political commentry contained within.

http://www.youtube.com/v/C6TOGnAMQ0Q

Warning: mindless sunny day chirpy music contained within.

We can play rate the song. :)

Quote from: Ataraxia on November 18, 2011, 04:20:39 AM
Finland, eh? You know these folk metalers?

http://www.korpiklaani.com/

Yes, I know of them.

I like some death metal music (Morbid Angel, Immolation, Nile, Necrophagist, etc.), but I hate the lyrics and vocals.  For progressive, I like Dream Theater, Symphony X, Blotted Science, and Animals as Leaders.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5RhJ2hBNerc

:3

Here's a new video by Blotted Science. Warning: The last minute or so might be disturbing for some of you.

http://www.youtube.com/v/mE-VP83nBno

Quote from: Toccata&Fugue on November 23, 2011, 04:46:30 PM
Here's a new video by Blotted Science. Warning: The last minute or so might be disturbing for some of you.

My friend has been mentioning this band, but I never got around to listening to them. Thanks for that- very sweet music. I like their style.  8)