This is all over the news, but this account is one of the most interesting. During last night's Mahler 9th Symphony with Alan Gilbert and the New York Philharmonic, a cell phone went off and wouldn't be silenced, so Gilbert stopped the piece:
http://mkitch.tumblr.com/post/15661821971
Incredible...
--Bruce
Did the phone really go on ringing for five minutes plus?
Weird. After the first minute if I was sitting next to them I would have told them either to leave, or I would smash it.
1 min does seem a reasonable enough gratis time before a justified stamping.
How rude and inconsiderate. It rang for 5 minutes? In a concert hall and for a conductor to stop an orchestra because of this ringing, those 5 minutes most of felt like an eternality. I can only imagine Gilbert's frustration.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 11, 2012, 10:19:05 AM
Did the phone really go on ringing for five minutes plus?
From all accounts I'm piecing together (I wasn't there), the ring did go on for much longer than a minute or two. This is the first time I've ever heard of an incident in which a phone ringing actually stopped a concert.
But bravo to Gilbert for his response, and it sounds like the rest of the audience was right there with him.
--Bruce
Quote from: James on January 11, 2012, 10:43:39 AM
"Whether I make them or not, there are always sounds to be heard and all of them are excellent."
--John Cage
;D
What a nonsense quote from one of the biggest musical jokes in history.
I do not know what to say....
This person deserves to be arrested. I applaud Alan Gilbert.
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 11, 2012, 01:12:23 PMThis person deserves to be arrested.
Lol...that's a bit over-the-top, but I love it! Yeah, arrest the uncouth hillbilly!
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 11, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
I do not know what to say....
This person deserves to be arrested. I applaud Alan Gilbert.
Yes. Arrested, then beaten to death with large elephant tusks. ???
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 11, 2012, 01:12:23 PM
I do not know what to say....
This person deserves to be arrested. I applaud Alan Gilbert.
It does leave one almost speechless. Gilbert, however, has even shown a bit of humor about the whole thing. He's on Twitter (@GilbertConducts) and wrote today:
"Something I learned last night: there's a reason Mahler never wrote for marimba."
Quote from: Scots John on January 11, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
Yes. Arrested, then beaten to death with large elephant tusks. ???
Ooh, I like that idea. Very imaginative. >:D
--Bruce
Incredible. The culprit should be fined and have his mug shot hung in concert hall walls across the globe (he may be traveling). $:)
Quote from: Scots John on January 11, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
Yes. Arrested, then beaten to death with large elephant tusks. ???
Beating ignorant audience members with genuine large elephant tusks has been illegal since the 1950's when the use of ivory for piano keys was banned. You must now use synthetic tusks fashioned from "ivorine" or "ivorite" to pummel offending cell phone villains.
8)
Quote from: Lethevich Dmitriyevna Pettersonova on January 11, 2012, 10:22:13 AM
Weird. After the first minute if I was sitting next to them I would have told them either to leave, or I would smash it.
1 min does seem a reasonable enough gratis time before a justified stamping.
+1. I wish Gilbert had smashed it!
Quote from: Szykneij on January 11, 2012, 02:18:33 PM
Beating ignorant audience members with genuine large elephant tusks has been illegal since the 1950's when the use of ivory for piano keys was banned. You must now use synthetic tusks fashioned from "ivorine" or "ivorite" to pummel offending cell phone villains.
8)
:-[
Ach yes, you're right, I forgot about that. Well...I suppose an alternative would be for ten orchestra members to pound the cell phone fanatic to death on the sidewalk with an array of golden flutes and willow violin bows.
Quote from: Scots John on January 11, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
:-[
Ach yes, you're right, I forgot about that. Well...I suppose an alternative would be for ten orchestra members to pound the cell phone fanatic to death on the sidewalk with an array of golden flutes and willow violin bows.
Paddle him with pernambuco !!!
Quote from: Szykneij on January 11, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Paddle him with pernambuco !!!
Lets form a posse Tony! We'll get the bastard! :D
Quote from: Brewski on January 11, 2012, 10:14:24 AM
This is all over the news, but this account is one of the most interesting. During last night's Mahler 9th Symphony with Alan Gilbert and the New York Philharmonic, a cell phone went off and wouldn't be silenced, so Gilbert stopped the piece:
http://mkitch.tumblr.com/post/15661821971
Incredible...
--Bruce
Aww I thought for sure you'd've been there and we'd have a GMG exclusive for the next issue of GMG World...
Quote from: Scots John on January 11, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
Yes. Arrested, then beaten to death with large elephant tusks. ???
and a large Mahler hammer ;D
Quote from: Brewski on January 11, 2012, 01:19:52 PM
It does leave one almost speechless. Gilbert, however, has even shown a bit of humor about the whole thing. He's on Twitter (@GilbertConducts) and wrote today:
"Something I learned last night: there's a reason Mahler never wrote for marimba."
--Bruce
haha :)
This is great for the GMG magazine by the way! I can imagine it: "Angry GMGers search for idiotic person who left their phone on in a live Mahler 9, armed with elephant tusks and Mahler hammers.". :D
Quote from: stingo on January 11, 2012, 07:29:48 PM
Aww I thought for sure you'd've been there and we'd have a GMG exclusive for the next issue of GMG World...
:D Part of me wishes I *had* been there, just for the newsworthiness of it all. (I heard the same concert last Saturday night, blessedly cell-free.) But then, considering when the offense occurred - the final dying measures of the Ninth must be one of the worst places in classical music for this to happen - I would have been livid, having the contemplative mood completely and utterly shattered.
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 12, 2012, 08:09:31 AM
This is great for the GMG magazine by the way! I can imagine it: "Angry GMGers search for idiotic person who left their phone on in a live Mahler 9, armed with elephant tusks and Mahler hammers.". :D
;D
--Bruce
That's outrageous, I'm speechless! >:( Mahler must be turning over in his grave. :(
Well, Mahler was born unto suffering . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on January 12, 2012, 09:00:14 AM
Well, Mahler was born unto suffering . . . .
:D
And he did say, when still very young, he wanted to become a martyr.
Hold onto your dreams . . . .
The cellphonist must've had the "Mein Zeit wird kommen" alarm set to let him know his time had certainly come.
Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on January 12, 2012, 09:09:04 AM
:D
And he did say, when still very young, he wanted to become a martyr.
Well, he did marry Alma.
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on January 12, 2012, 08:58:41 AM
That's outrageous, I'm speechless! >:( Mahler must be turning over in his grave. :(
... or perhaps it was Mahler himself calling to complain that the tempo wasn't slow enough.
:)
Quote from: Szykneij on January 12, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
... or perhaps it was Mahler himself calling to complain that the tempo wasn't slow enough.
:)
;D
Meanwhile...it's already on YouTube...you knew
someone would do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcYqdUBvQg
--Bruce
Quote from: Szykneij on January 12, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
... or perhaps it was Mahler himself calling to complain that the tempo wasn't slow enough.
:)
Hahaha, maybe ;D
Quote from: Brewski on January 12, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
;D
Meanwhile...it's already on YouTube...you knew someone would do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcYqdUBvQg
--Bruce
That was painful....
Quote from: Brewski on January 12, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
;D
Meanwhile...it's already on YouTube...you knew someone would do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcYqdUBvQg
--Bruce
Fake.
"Just an example of how it could've went down..... tribute to Alan Gilbert, Mahler, and the composer of the iPhone marimba ringtone."
Quote from: Ataraxia on January 12, 2012, 01:20:01 PM
Fake.
"Just an example of how it could've went down..... tribute to Alan Gilbert, Mahler, and the composer of the iPhone marimba ringtone."
Oh yes, definitely fake. (Sorry if I implied that the YouTube video was of the actual incident - but now I'm thinking, someone may have recorded it... ;D)
--Bruce
Quote from: Brewski on January 12, 2012, 01:32:22 PM
Oh yes, definitely fake. (Sorry if I implied that the YouTube video was of the actual incident - but now I'm thinking, someone may have recorded it... ;D)
--Bruce
Yeah! That's what I want to see. :)
And now, I'm logging off to go hear the NY Phil do the Bruckner 8th (with Mehta) - the first performance since Tuesday's brouhaha! I wonder if they will have changed the "turn off your phones" announcement...
--Bruce
This would be appropriate: ;)
Cannibal Corpse ยป Hammer Smashed Face LyricsQuote
There's something inside me
It's, it's coming out
I feel like killing you
Let loose the anger, held back too long
My blood runs cold
Through my anatomy, dwells another being
Rooted in my cortex, a servant to its bidding
Brutality now becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
Eyes bulging from their sockets
With every swing of my mallet
I smash your fucking head in, until brains seep in
through the cracks, blood does leak
distorted beauty, catastrophe
Steaming slop, splattered all over me
Lifeless body, slouching dead lecherous abcess, where you once had a head
Avoiding the prophecy of my new found lust
You will never live again, soon your life will end
I'll see you die at my feet, eternally I smash your face
facial bones collapse as I crack your skull in half
Crushing, cranial, contents
Draining the snot, I rip out the eyes
Squeezing them in my hands nerves are incised
Peeling the flesh off the bottom of my weapon
Involuntarily pulpifying facial regions
Suffer, and then you die
Torture, pulverized
At one with my sixth sense, I feel free
To kill as I please, no one can stop me
Created to kill, the carnage continues
Violently reshaping human facial tissue
Brutality becomes my appetite
Violence is now a way of life
The sledge my tool to torture
As it pounds down on your forehead
You've been hammered! 8)
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
Crushing, cranial, contents
The more you say it, the nicer it sounds :3
Maybe he would have incorporated it into one of his symphonies, the symphony represents the whole world and all that stuff.
Quote from: Brewski on January 12, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
And now, I'm logging off to go hear the NY Phil do the Bruckner 8th (with Mehta) - the first performance since Tuesday's brouhaha! I wonder if they will have changed the "turn off your phones" announcement...
--Bruce
Just make sure to turn off
your phone. This time they'll go for blood.
It would be apocalyptic! :o
Y'know, isn't this what ushers are for? I want to see the ushers properly trained for dealing with the riff raff. Tasers, etc.
Also, cell phone jamming for concert halls. I mean, unless you're Batman, just how urgent is that call likely to be?
People, you're thinking too small! A laser (or a few of them) in the middle of the hall on the ceiling (with access to every seat). Cell phone rings - zap! Alarm clock - zap! Coughing - zap! :P
Quote from: mc ukrneal on January 16, 2012, 12:36:31 AM
People, you're thinking too small! A laser (or a few of them) in the middle of the hall on the ceiling (with access to every seat). Cell phone rings - zap! Alarm clock - zap! Coughing - zap! :P
Unless the 'zapping' is silent, someone would have to zap the laser as well. In anycase, it would make one hell of a sound-and-light show.
Quote from: Opus106 on January 16, 2012, 12:40:49 AM
Unless the 'zapping' is silent, someone would have to zap the laser as well. In anycase, it would make one hell of a sound-and-light show.
Silent - yes. And no smoke. :)
Quote from: Opus106 on January 16, 2012, 12:40:49 AM
Unless the 'zapping' is silent, someone would have to zap the laser as well. In anycase, it would make one hell of a sound-and-light show.
Someone's been watching too much Star Wars :D
Quote from: North Star on January 16, 2012, 01:14:19 PM
Someone's been watching too much Star Wars :D
;D Truth to be told, I haven't watched even a single film from that franchise.
Just read that the man with the cellphone was a yearly concert subscriber for many years with the NYP, and actually talked to Gilbert over the phone to apologize.
Quote from: Opus106 on January 16, 2012, 08:49:02 PM
;D Truth to be told, I haven't watched even a single film from that franchise.
I could hug you!
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 17, 2012, 08:06:53 AM
Just read that the man with the cellphone was a yearly concert subscriber for many years with the NYP, and actually talked to Gilbert over the phone to apologize.
Well, a good thing that Daniel wasn't there to hammer him! : )
Concerto for ringtone and orchestra.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 17, 2012, 08:06:53 AM
Just read that the man with the cellphone was a yearly concert subscriber for many years with the NYP, and actually talked to Gilbert over the phone to apologize.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 17, 2012, 08:20:56 AM
Well, a good thing that Daniel wasn't there to hammer him! : )
Yes.... :D
He should have known better! Must have been very embarrassing for him as well...
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 17, 2012, 08:33:37 AM
Must have been very embarrassing for him as well...
I'm sure it was, supposedly the audience wasn't has kind as Gilbert, some harsh things were yelled at cellphone-man from the crowd
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 17, 2012, 08:43:05 AM
I'm sure it was, supposedly the audience wasn't has kind as Gilbert, some harsh things were yelled at cellphone-man from the crowd
I can imagine....
I wonder what I would have done if I were there!
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 17, 2012, 12:41:03 PM
I can imagine....
I wonder what I would have done if I were there!
I'm guessing, the hammer? ;D
Quote from: Soapy Molloy on January 16, 2012, 01:42:03 AMThe Barbican Centre in London has that. There's no signal anywhere inside. I doubt it's by design, as it was constructed in the 1970s. More likely it's the reinforcing in all the concrete acting as a giant Faraday cage. Place is built like a nuclear bunker.
Great, so you can hear the terrible acoustics without interruption ;)
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on January 17, 2012, 08:06:53 AMJust read that the man with the cellphone was a yearly concert subscriber for many years with the NYP, and actually talked to Gilbert over the phone to apologize.
He called Gilbert on THE SAME PHONE with which he committed his atrocity in the first place! I believe this is called irony.
Quote from: eyeresist on January 20, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
He called Gilbert on THE SAME PHONE with which he committed his atrocity in the first place! I believe this is called irony.
He must have scheduled SIRI to call and apologize.
Here's a good take on this incident:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/occupy-avery-fisher-hall (http://www.stereophile.com/content/occupy-avery-fisher-hall)
QuoteLincoln Center management contacted Patron X, whom they identified by his seat number, ostensibly to request that he power down his iPhone during future concerts. In the course of the call, X requested an opportunity to speak with Alan Gilbert directly. That request was granted.
Don't be alarmed by that apparent exercise of privilege: It turns out that Lincoln Center management offers the same opportunity anyone, regardless of income or social status who disrupts a performance in Avery Fisher Hall.
Actually, I made that up. The opposite is true: If you or I did such a thing, the best we could hope for would be an interview with Lincoln Center Security.
There are few flavours as piquant as righteous indignation (I'm enjoying some right now :D ).
Remember the beating that "teens" Di Nero and Woods received in Once Upon a Time in America? :D
Some audience members were heard to remark after the concert that the ringing mobile phone bit was the most musically interesting sequence of the symphony.
Quote from: -abe- on May 10, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
Some audience members were heard to remark after the concert that the ringing mobile phone bit was the most musically interesting sequence of the symphony.
Poor them for not being able to understand some of the (IMHO) most powerfully, heavenly beautiful music ever! What were they doing there in the first place then? They don't deserve the privelage of seeing Mahler live if they are going to make such stupid remarks afterwards. Awful.
Edit: Sorry, I got a little angry there.... :-\
Quote from: madaboutmahler on May 10, 2012, 12:57:52 PM
Poor them for not being able to understand some of the (IMHO) most powerfully, heavenly beautiful music ever! What were they doing there in the first place then? They don't deserve the privelage of seeing Mahler live if they are going to make such stupid remarks afterwards. Awful.
Edit: Sorry, I got a little angry there.... :-\
Haha, no worries. I was just teasing. I find Mahler to be often sublime (a performance of the Ressurection symphony I saw last year was one of my greatest musical experiences) but there are times I find him to be a droning bore. After not quite liking the 6th and 7th symphonies I haven't been motivated to bother with the rest (though I admire the others before those.)
Quote from: -abe- on May 10, 2012, 01:07:46 PM
Haha, no worries. I was just teasing. I find Mahler to be often sublime (a performance of the Ressurection symphony I saw last year was one of my greatest musical experiences) but there are times I find him to be a droning bore. After not quite liking the 6th and 7th symphonies I haven't motivated to bother with the rest (though I admire the others before that.)
Oh... right ;)
I would encourage you to listen to the rest! ;)
If I were not familiar with the 9th I might have thought it was part of the score.
;) 8)
Quote from: -abe- on May 10, 2012, 01:07:46 PMAfter not quite liking the 6th and 7th symphonies I haven't been motivated to bother with the rest (though I admire the others before those.)
Does that include
The Song of the Earth ?? :o
something about the story doesn't ring true
an iPhone alarm is easy to deactivate???
Well, the man was old, and apparently wasn't even aware it was his phone ringing for some time. I think he may have been paralyzed with embarrassment to some extent .....
Quote from: -abe- on May 10, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
Some audience members were heard to remark after the concert that the ringing mobile phone bit was the most musically interesting sequence of the symphony.
It seems Patron X unwittingly created a new post-conceptual piece of music, worthy of John Cage even :-\ 8)
Quote from: Brewski on January 11, 2012, 10:14:24 AM
This is all over the news, but this account is one of the most interesting. During last night's Mahler 9th Symphony with Alan Gilbert and the New York Philharmonic, a cell phone went off and wouldn't be silenced, so Gilbert stopped the piece:
http://mkitch.tumblr.com/post/15661821971
Incredible...
--Bruce
Just cannot believe people would not put their cell phones on the vibrate mode when they are in public places ...
4 months later, and you're still talking about this? Come on, people.