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Title: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 14, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
We're going to St. Petersburg soon and will be visiting the cemetary at Alexander Nevsky Monestary, where several great Russian composers, including Tchaikovsky, are buried. I would like a little help in recognizing these names (Glinka, Moussorgsky, Shostakovich, etc. etc.) in Cyrillic. I have learned this alphabet somewhat but don't consider myself proficient enough to spell out these names myself.

I'm also looking to find some interesting CDs and LPs in that city and will need help recognizing names such as Sviatoslav Richter, David Oistrakh, Mstislav Rostropovich, Boris Christoff, Feodor Chaliapin, Leonid Kogan, etc. 



Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Mark on July 14, 2007, 03:37:08 PM
XB, if you find Rach's Vespers out there (1965 Sveshnikov, USSR State Choir, Melodiya), PLEASE buy it for me! We'll settle up on your return. ;)

Thanks in advance! :)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 14, 2007, 03:46:02 PM
I'll try!  ;)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Maciek on July 14, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
XB, I think the simplest thing to do would be to search out the names you're looking for in the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)). When you find one of the names that interest you go to the article, then scroll down a bit and look at the tab on the left. It lists addresses for the same entry in other languages. Find Русский on that list (it comes right were R would be in the Latin alphabet) and click on it - and you will be taken to the appropriate page in the Russian Wikipedia.

I hope this makes sense? It's very simple, really - I just don't know how to explain it properly... ::) 0:)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Maciek on July 14, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
Oh, and just to make it work faster - go to the Russian composers category:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_composers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Russian_composers)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 14, 2007, 04:09:30 PM
Thanks a lot!

Here's Tchaikovsky: Пётр Ильич Чайкoвский
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Mark G. Simon on July 14, 2007, 05:28:14 PM
Wikipedia also has a table that helps you transliterate from cyrillic to Roman characters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration_of_Russian_into_English

Several different romanization schemes are presented here. I'm most conversant with the ALA-LC scheme.
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on July 15, 2007, 12:05:52 AM
Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 14, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
We're going to St. Petersburg soon and will be visiting the cemetary at Alexander Nevsky Monestary, where several great Russian composers, including Tchaikovsky, are buried. I would like a little help in recognizing these names (Glinka, Moussorgsky, Shostakovich, etc. etc.) in Cyrillic.

Don't wish to disappoint you in advance, but Shostakovich (Шостакович) is actually buried in Moscow, at Novodevichy Cemetery (his tombstone is decorated with the DSCH motif). Prokofiev (Прокофьев) is also buried there.
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Symphonien on July 15, 2007, 01:54:39 AM
Quote from: Maciek on July 14, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
XB, I think the simplest thing to do would be to search out the names you're looking for in the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)). When you find one of the names that interest you go to the article, then scroll down a bit and look at the tab on the left. It lists addresses for the same entry in other languages. Find Русский on that list (it comes right were R would be in the Latin alphabet) and click on it - and you will be taken to the appropriate page in the Russian Wikipedia.

I hope this makes sense? It's very simple, really - I just don't know how to explain it properly... ::) 0:)

Or you can just go to the English article and most of the Russian composers will have their names given in Cyrillic characters afterwards, eg. "Mikhail Ivanovich Glinka (Russian: Михаил Иванович Глинка, Mihail Ivanovič Glinka)".
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 15, 2007, 02:22:21 AM
According to my guidebook, Tikhvin Cemetary at the Alexander Nevsky Monestery is the burial place of Glinka, Tchaikovsky, Moussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakoff, and Dostoyevsky.
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: tab on July 15, 2007, 03:18:17 AM
Tchaikovsky - Петр Ильич Чайковский
Glinka - Михаил Иванович Глинка
Moussorgsky - Модест Петрович Мусоргский
Shostakovich - Дмитрий Дмитриевич Шостакович
Sviatoslav Richter - Святослав Теофилович Рихтер
David Oistrakh - Давид Федорович Ойстрах
Mstislav Rostropovich - Мстислав Леопольдович Ростропович
Feodor Chaliapin - Федор Иванович Шаляпин
Leonid Kogan - Леонид Борисович Коган
Rimsky-Korsakoff - Николай Андреевич Римский-Корсаков
Dostoyevsky - Федор Михайлович Достоевский

Что-нибудь еще?  ;) (Anything else?)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Maciek on July 15, 2007, 03:10:47 PM
Quote from: Symphonien on July 15, 2007, 01:54:39 AM
Or you can just go to the English article and most of the Russian composers will have their names given in Cyrillic characters afterwards, eg. "Mikhail Ivanovich Glinka (Russian: Михаил Иванович Глинка, Mihail Ivanovič Glinka)".

[slaps forehead]
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: karlhenning on July 16, 2007, 10:27:47 AM
Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 14, 2007, 03:32:06 PM
We're going to St. Petersburg soon and will be visiting the cemetary at Alexander Nevsky Monestary, where several great Russian composers, including Tchaikovsky, are buried. I would like a little help in recognizing these names (Glinka, Moussorgsky, Shostakovich, etc. etc.) in Cyrillic.

Shostakovich is buried in Novodevichy in Moscow, I believe.
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: karlhenning on July 16, 2007, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 15, 2007, 02:22:21 AM
According to my guidebook, Tikhvin Cemetary at the Alexander Nevsky Monestery is the burial place of Glinka, Tchaikovsky, Moussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakoff, and Dostoyevsky.

And Stravinsky's father, Fyodor Ignatyevich.
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: tab on July 17, 2007, 01:28:12 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 16, 2007, 10:27:47 AM
Shostakovich is buried in Novodevichy in Moscow, I believe.

True. And Rostropovich too  :'(
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Sergey on July 17, 2007, 02:05:14 PM
 XB, actually if you are after the CDs on sale in St. Petersburg, most (90%?) of them come with titles and names both in Russian and in English so you are unlikely to face great diffiulties. Be prepared, though, to meet rather weird transliteration sometimes that makes some names look vaguely but hardly familiar. :-)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 17, 2007, 02:12:20 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

I am looking for both CDs and LPs. I figure the old Melodiya LPs will probably be mostly, or entirely in cyrillic. Any ideas where I should go to find LPs?
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: karlhenning on July 17, 2007, 03:06:46 PM
Welcome, Sergei!
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Maciek on July 17, 2007, 04:11:23 PM
And Happy Birthday! 8)
Title: Re: RUSSIAN composers and performers in CYRILLIC alphabet (help please!)
Post by: Sergey on July 17, 2007, 11:23:40 PM
Thank you, karlhenning, Maciek!