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Title: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Bogey on September 05, 2013, 02:55:08 PM
Could be things like Beethoven's Op.18 (First String Quartet) or Dvorak's First Symphony.  Maybe you might even have a #1 from the composer where you think it is their best of the run, like Brahm's  First Symphony.  These are some of mine.  So, what are some "firsts" from composers you enjoy? 


Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 06, 2013, 01:40:52 AM
Havergal Brian Symphony #1 "Gothic"

Franz Schmidt Symphony #1

Alban Berg Piano Sonata op.1

Brahms Piano Sonata #1 op.1

Anton Webern Passacaglia for Orchestra op.1


Sarge
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Opus106 on September 06, 2013, 01:56:26 AM
I can easily see this getting unwieldy, even by GMG favourite things thread standards.

TD: Bach, Op. 1
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Brahmsian on September 06, 2013, 05:55:38 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 06, 2013, 01:40:52 AM
Brahms Piano Sonata #1 op.1

Anton Webern Passacaglia for Orchestra op.1
Sarge

Great ones there, Sarge.

I'd also nominate Beethoven's first set of 3 piano trios, Op. 1

And the delightful Variations on the name "ABEGG" for solo piano by Robert Schumann.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: North Star on September 06, 2013, 06:12:03 AM
Agreed with Beethoven, Brahms, Berg, & Webern
Schubert - Erlkönig, Op. 1
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 06, 2013, 06:16:42 AM
Quote from: North Star on September 06, 2013, 06:12:03 AM
Schubert - Erlkönig, Op. 1

Excellent choice!

Sarge
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: jochanaan on September 06, 2013, 04:11:59 PM
Beethoven Piano Concerto #1.  Big and bold and prescient.

Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique.  While not a named "#1," it is his first of several symphonic works and, I feel, his greatest.

Mendelssohn Symphony #1.  Very exciting.

Tchaikovsky Symphony #1.  By far my favorite of his first three symphonies.

R. Strauss Don Juan.  The first of his many tone poems, and as good as any of them.

Sibelius Symphony #1.  There's magic here, as much as in any of his later symphonies.

Shostakovich Symphony #1.  While not perhaps his "greatest," whatever that might be, it is a very impressive symphonic debut.

Bartok Piano Concerto #1.  My favorite of his three, by a nose (but they're all great).

P.S.  For the sake of complete arbitrariness :D , we should probably specify that "the first of a series" is what we're after here.  That would eliminate "onlies" such as Franck's Symphony, although not, perhaps, the first of a non-numbered series such as Sibelius' first tone poem, En Saga.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Brian on September 06, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: jochanaan on September 06, 2013, 04:11:59 PM
Tchaikovsky Symphony #1.  By far my favorite of his first three symphonies.
Agree with every word of this.

Nielsen - Little suite for strings, Op. 1
Shostakovich - String Quartet No. 1
Schumann - Abegg Variations, Op. 1
Mahler - Symphony No. 1 (really, nobody's mentioned this?)
Roussel - Symphony No. 1 (the ideal French impressionist symphony?)
Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 1
Prokofiev - Symphony No. 1
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Brahmsian on September 06, 2013, 06:53:10 PM
Quote from: Brian on September 06, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
Agree with every word of this.

Shostakovich - String Quartet No. 1
Schumann - Abegg Variations, Op. 1
Mahler - Symphony No. 1 (really, nobody's mentioned this?)
Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 1
Prokofiev - Symphony No. 1

Great ones, Brian.  I had listed Schumann's ABEGG and glad someone else agreed with me!  :)
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Mirror Image on September 06, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
A few works that have remained sentimental favorites:

Ravel: Daphnis et Chloe
Debussy: La Mer
Stravinsky: Le sacre du printemps
Berg: Violin Concerto
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 8
Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 5
Villa-Lobos: Genesis
Part: Cantus In Memoriam Benjamin Britten
Sibelius: Pohjola's Daughter
Ginastera: Estancia
W. Schuman: Symphony No. 3
Barber: Violin Concerto
Elgar: Sea Pictures
Honegger: Symphony No. 3 'Liturgique'
Janacek: Sinfonietta
Martinu: Double Concerto
Tippett: A Child of Our Time
Lyadov: Village Scene by the Inn
Szymanowski: Symphony No. 3 'Song of the Night'
Alwyn: Lyra Angelica
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Brian on September 06, 2013, 07:20:10 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 06, 2013, 07:16:08 PM
A few works that have remained sentimental favorites:
It's a pun, bro, we're talking about our favorite works by composers that are No. 1 in a series or Op. 1.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Mirror Image on September 06, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
Quote from: Brian on September 06, 2013, 07:20:10 PM
It's a pun, bro, we're talking about our favorite works by composers that are No. 1 in a series or Op. 1.

Oh, I misunderstood the premise of this thread. :-\ Oh dear...it's been a long day.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: dyn on September 06, 2013, 07:47:31 PM
Beethoven - String Quartet No. 1 (although it's technically either the 2nd or the 6th by date of composition or revision respectively), Piano Concerto No. 1 (although it's technically the 3rd)
Schumann - Piano Sonata No. 1
Brahms - String Sextet No. 1, Violin Sonata No. 1 (especially the 1st movement)
Stockhausen - Mikrophonie I (probably kind of cheating though, since there are only two Mikrophonies)
Berio - Sequenza I
Bartók - String Quartet No. 1, Piano Concerto No. 1 (also my favourite of the three)
Penderecki - Symphony No. 1
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Bogey on September 07, 2013, 04:20:31 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on September 06, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
Oh, I misunderstood the premise of this thread. :-\ Oh dear...it's been a long day.

That's ok.  Posting music you truly enjoy here should never be a problem. :)
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Brahmsian on September 07, 2013, 07:56:59 AM
Perhaps an exaggeration and an over-statement, but:

Beethoven's 3rd Symphony "Eroica".  1st Romantic Era composition?  :)
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: North Star on September 07, 2013, 08:31:11 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 07, 2013, 07:56:59 AM
Perhaps an exaggeration and an over-statement, but:

Beethoven's 3rd Symphony "Eroica".  1st Romantic Era composition?  :)
Waldstein, Kreutzer before that.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: starrynight on September 07, 2013, 11:06:10 AM
Elgar - Symphony 1
Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto 1
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Rinaldo on September 07, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
Bloch's 1st Piano quintet. And if you'd like an extra #1, the first movement itself.

Top of the world, ma.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: Rinaldo on September 07, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
Bloch's 1st Piano quintet. And if you'd like an extra #1, the first movement itself.

Top of the world, ma.

.....and his equally magnificent SQ no. 1!
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 04:46:21 PM
Most accomplished/my favorite first symphonies by: Langgaard, Tubin, Glazunov, Elgar, Walton, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, Mahler, Brahms, Brian, Barber, Vermeulen, Enescu, Hartmann, Harris, Bax, Rubbra and Simpson.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Bogey on September 07, 2013, 08:10:56 PM
Quote from: Rinaldo on September 07, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
Bloch's 1st Piano quintet. And if you'd like an extra #1, the first movement itself.

Top of the world, ma.

Great Cagney take.  Print it!
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Daverz on September 07, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
Gade Symphony 1.  He didn't seem to be able to rise to that level again.

Also Echoes of Ossian is his opus 1 and one of his finest works.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 08:06:27 AM
Quote from: Daverz on September 07, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
Gade Symphony 1.  He didn't seem to be able to rise to that level again.

Also Echoes of Ossian is his opus 1 and one of his finest works.

Wholeheartedly agreed. There's energy and passion in these works that isn't always found in his later works.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 05:22:00 AM
Quote from: Brian on September 06, 2013, 04:27:53 PM

Shostakovich - String Quartet No. 1

Mahler - Symphony No. 1 (really, nobody's mentioned this?)

Prokofiev - Symphony No. 1

Do you honestly prefer Shostakovich's String Quartet #1 over all others in the cycle?  And Mahler's 1st?  Mahler's 1st symphony is fine, but it stands deeply in the shadow of the other eight for me.

Now Prokofiev's 1st is an almost for me, it's my second favorite.  The 5th is my favorite.  I honestly tried and tried and tried to think of a #1 that I prefer over others in the sequence, and simply couldn't.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Opus106 on September 09, 2013, 07:49:56 AM
Quote from: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 05:22:00 AM
Do you honestly prefer Shostakovich's String Quartet #1 over all others in the cycle?  And Mahler's 1st?  Mahler's 1st symphony is fine, but it stands deeply in the shadow of the other eight for me.

This a thread of favourites "firsts", and not about whether the "first" is in anyway better than the seconds, thirds et c. of specific sets.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 09:19:48 AM
I missed the word "maybe" in the original post.  Thanks Navneeth, I thought everyone here was crazy!  Now that I understand it, I'll think of my own list.

Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
Beethoven's 1st Symphony
Brahms' Piano Concerto #1
Prokofiev's Piano Concerto #1
Bach's Orchestral Suite #1
Bach's Brandenburg Concerto #1
Vaughan Williams Sea Symphony BEHOLD THE SEA ITSELF!
Mendelssohn's String Quintet #1
Bach's Cantata #1
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Mirror Image on September 10, 2013, 03:23:32 PM
Shostakovich's Violin Concerto No. 1 should get a special mention here. Truly a masterpiece and continues to be a staple of the violin concert repertoire.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Bogey on September 10, 2013, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
Beethoven's 1st Symphony


Attaboy, David.  Hope teaching is going fine.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: DavidW on September 11, 2013, 04:53:31 AM
Quote from: Bogey on September 10, 2013, 07:17:31 PM
Attaboy, David.  Hope teaching is going fine.

Great group this year, but too much time grading!!!!!

Beethoven and Brahms are always good for a #1. 8)
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: Karl Henning on September 11, 2013, 04:56:11 AM
Quote from: DavidW on September 11, 2013, 04:53:31 AM
Beethoven and Brahms are always good for a #1. 8)

They stood on the shoulders of giants.
Title: Re: #1 "Hits"
Post by: jochanaan on September 14, 2013, 05:47:06 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 11, 2013, 04:56:11 AM
They stood on the shoulders of giants.
Don't we all? :)