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What are five "unsung" (meaning not a concert hall staple) works that you believe everyone should hear? Tough choices, but, in the end, I chose:

1. Franz Schmidt: Symphony no. 4
2. Braga Santos: Symphony no. 4
3. Atterberg: Symphony no. 3
4. Casella: Symphony no. 3 (Sinfonia)
5. Brian: Symphony no. 1 Gothic

(You may detect a slight bias toward symphonies! ;))

All of these works have great emotional and dramatic (and in the case of the Atterberg, atmospheric) power that is equaled by only the great acknowledged masterpieces of the classical music literature. :)

A couple floating around my mind right now:

1. Chavez: Horse Power Suite
2. Villa-Lobos: Forest of the Amazon
3. Braga Santos: Symphony No. 2
4. Myaskovsky: Symphony No. 24
5. Milhaud: Symphony No. 6

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 05:59:21 PM
A couple floating around my mind right now:

1. Chavez: Horse Power Suite
2. Villa-Lobos: Forest of the Amazon
3. Braga Santos: Symphony No. 2
4. Myaskovsky: Symphony No. 24
5. Milhaud: Symphony No. 6

Nice choices! I almost included a V-L or Miaskovsky work, possibly the same ones you chose. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
Nice choices! I almost included a V-L or Miaskovsky work, possibly the same ones you chose. :)

Thanks, Kyle. Yes, these are all fine works IMHO. I also liked your list a lot as well. Are we only allowed to make one list? ;)

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
Are we only allowed to make one list? ;)

Five is indeed a bit restricting, but let's keep it there. :) But the temptation of list-making is a strong one ;)......

Brian Symphony 10
Veinberg Cello Sonatas
Nielsen  Wind Quintet (OK, this one is famous, at least among wind music enthusiasts)
Martin Der Cornet
Songs by Dargomyzhsky

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 06:17:16 PM
Five is indeed a bit restricting, but let's keep it there. :) But the temptation of list-making is a strong one ;)......

Thou shall resist the temptation... :P

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 06:20:11 PM
Thou shall resist the temptation... :P

I've done my fair share of list-making; I've compiled five today, to be exact! :D

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
I've done my fair share of list-making; I've compiled five today, to be exact! :D

;D

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
I've done my fair share of list-making; I've compiled five today, to be exact! :D

We should have a separate section titled "The Kyjo Lists"

Quote from: springrite on September 07, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
Nielsen  Wind Quintet (OK, this one is famous, at least among wind music enthusiasts)

Hmmmm.....ArkivMusic lists 29 recordings of it (which wouldn't qualify as "unsung" by my standards), but I'll let it fly-just this once! :P

Enescu - Suites for Piano 1-3
Gade - Elverskud, Op. 30
Miaskovsky - Violin Concerto in d minor
Shostakovich - Op. 87 Preludes and Fugues
Bax - Winter Legends

Quote from: springrite on September 07, 2013, 06:32:00 PM
We should have a separate section titled "The Kojo Polls"

Kyjo* :P

Yes, my polls are indeed one-of-a-kind! :D

EDIT: I see you have corrected the spelling of my username. :)

Quote from: Sammy on September 07, 2013, 06:33:48 PM
Enescu - Suites for Piano 1-3
Gade - Elverskud, Op. 30
Miaskovsky - Violin Concerto in d minor
Shostakovich - Op. 87 Preludes and Fugues
Bax - Winter Legends

The Bax and Miaskovsky are great pieces indeed. The Shostakovich Preludes and Fugues may not be "unsung" in a general sense, but, compared to a lot of his other works, they are. They may be a little tiresome to listen to but they are deeply rewarding (if difficult :D) to play. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 05:53:20 PM
1. Franz Schmidt: Symphony no. 4
2. Braga Santos: Symphony no. 4
3. Atterberg: Symphony no. 3
4. Casella: Symphony no. 3 (Sinfonia)
5. Brian: Symphony no. 1 Gothic

I think the neglect of the Gothic in concert could have something to do with the enormous scale of the thing.  But it did get performed and recorded at the 2011 Proms.

I could probably dig up a list from a previous thread.  There is so much great, accessible music from the last century that goes unplayed in concert programs that I think it's a scandal.  In particular, while the Brits promote every mediocrity of theirs that they can find, here in the US we mostly neglect our great American (and Latin American) composers.

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
Hmmmm.....ArkivMusic lists 29 recordings of it (which wouldn't qualify as "unsung" by my standards), but I'll let it fly-just this once! :P

I can easily change that to Taffanel's Wind Quintet. Alright?

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
Hmmmm.....ArkivMusic lists 29 recordings of it (which wouldn't qualify as "unsung" by my standards), but I'll let it fly-just this once! :P

Also, the wind quintet literature isn't so large that wind ensembles can afford to ignore the Nielsen Quintet in concert programs.

Quote from: springrite on September 07, 2013, 06:40:08 PM
I can easily change that to Taffanel's Wind Quintet. Alright?

You don't have to.....just saying.....

Good that no more understood "unsung" as "non-vocal"...

Quote from: Daverz on September 07, 2013, 06:43:28 PM
Also, the wind quintet literature isn't so large that wind ensembles can afford to ignore the Nielsen Quintet in concert programs.

Quite true. If a piece you would like to nominate doesn't fall under my criteria for "unsung" (not being regularly programmed on concerts), please explain why you believe the piece in question is "unsung". :)

Quote from: springrite on September 07, 2013, 06:49:06 PM
Good that no more understood "unsung" as "non-vocal"...

If that were the meaning of "unsung" in this case, I couldn't possibly confine my list to just five pieces! :P

1. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
2. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
3. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
4. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
5. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč

Thanks, you've been a wonderful audience.

Trying to go beyond the usual suspects:

Berwald: Symphonies (all of them are delightful)
Cowell: Concerto Grosso.  Sort of picking a Cowell work at random here.  It's light music that would work nicely between weightier pieces.
Ginastera: Violin Concerto; Piano Concerto 1.  Bravura works full of opportunities for soloistic display that I think would wow any audience.  I don't understand why more soloists don't pick these up.   
Ernesto Haelffter: Sinfonietta
Douglas Moore: Symphony No. 2.  The Allegretto is one of the most bootiful things ever written by anybody.

I'll have to do another list from N-Z.

Quote from: Rinaldo on September 07, 2013, 07:07:33 PM
1. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
2. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
3. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
4. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
5. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč

Thanks, you've been a wonderful audience.

:P

Can't argue with that, Rinaldo! What a smokin' piece! 8)

Quote from: Rinaldo on September 07, 2013, 07:07:33 PM
1. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
2. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
3. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
4. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč
5. Mystery of Time by Miloslav Kabeláč

Thanks, you've been a wonderful audience.

Your list is a good way to say "Time is a continuum" !

Quote from: Daverz on September 07, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
Trying to go beyond the usual suspects:

Berwald: Symphonies (all of them are delightful)
Cowell: Concerto Grosso.  Sort of picking a Cowell work at random here.  It's light music that would work nicely between weightier pieces.
Ginastera: Violin Concerto; Piano Concerto 1.  Bravura works full of opportunities for soloistic display that I think would wow any audience.  I don't understand why more soloists don't pick these up.   
Ernesto Haelffter: Sinfonietta
Douglas Moore: Symphony No. 2.  The Allegretto is one of the most bootiful things ever written by anybody.

I'll have to do another list from N-Z.

Nice variety there, Dave. I really enjoy the Halffter and Moore pieces. They are both tuneful, lyrical works in a neoclassical vein that are sure to put a smile on anyone's face!

I wonder who will lose patience and put up his second five.

My bet is on John.

I bet he already has his 5th 5 at the ready and is really itching...

Quote from: springrite on September 07, 2013, 07:26:09 PM
I wonder who will lose patience and put up his second five.

My bet is on John.

I bet he already has his 5th 5 at the ready and is really itching...

:P I've certainly been thinking about other lists, but we must abide by Sir Kyle's laws or get thrown in jail. :)

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 07:27:31 PM
:P I've certainly been thinking about other lists, but we must abide by Sir Kyle's laws or get thrown in jail. :)

Stop it, guys! :P OK, I concede. Wreak havoc with your lists! :D

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 07:27:31 PM
:P I've certainly been thinking about other lists, but we must abide by Sir Kyle's laws or get thrown in jail. :)

If these rules were ever enforced, I can see you receiving consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole.  :D

Quote from: springrite on September 07, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
If these rules were ever enforced, I can see you receiving consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole.  :D

:D Yeah and then I could become the cellmate of someone by the name of 'Big Sal.' Apparently this guy doesn't take 'no' for an answer. :P

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 07:31:33 PM
Stop it, guys! :P OK, I concede. Wreak havoc with your lists! :D

Yay!!!! :)

My second list would look something like this:

Guarnieri: Piano Concerto No. 2
Sculthorpe: Cello Dreaming
Schnittke: Peer Gynt
W. Schuman: Credendum
Koechlin: Vers la Voûte étoilée

I could make these lists all day long. :) My third list would look like this:

Panufnik: Autumn Music
Tubin: Sinfonietta on Estonian Motifs
Chavez: Hija De Colquide
Linde: Violin Concerto
Szymanowski: Harnasie

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 07:41:53 PM
My second list would look something like this:

Guarnieri: Piano Concerto No. 2
Sculthorpe: Cello Dreaming
Schnittke: Peer Gynt
W. Schuman: Credendum
Koechlin: Vers la Voûte étoilée

Cool! Never knew you were a Guarnieri fan, John! :) My second list:

Kabelac: The Mystery of Time
Enescu: Symphony no. 3
Diamond: Symphony no. 2
Rubbra: Symphony no. 7
Miaskovsky: Symphony no. 27

No particular order:

*Schumann's Violin Concerto in D minor
*Nielsen's solo piano works
*Prokofiev's string quartets
*Onslow chamber music
*Dvorak's Bagatelles, Op. 47 for 2 violins, cello & harmonium

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 08:03:02 PM
Cool! Never knew you were a Guarnieri fan, John! :) My second list:

Kabelac: The Mystery of Time
Enescu: Symphony no. 3
Diamond: Symphony no. 2
Rubbra: Symphony no. 7
Miaskovsky: Symphony no. 27

Absolutely. He seems to always be hiding in Villa-Lobos' shadow but I think quite highly of Guarnieri. His symphony cycle on BIS with Neschling and Sao Paulo SO has been a favorite of mine for many years. I also love his PCs on Naxos. One work I recall enjoying on a 'Latin American' orchestral compilation I own was called Encantamento. I wish this work would get performed more often. By the way, nice list. :)

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 07, 2013, 08:39:58 PM
Absolutely. He seems to always be hiding in Villa-Lobos' shadow but I think quite highly of Guarnieri. His symphony cycle on BIS with Neschling and Sao Paulo SO has been a favorite of mine for many years. I also love his PCs on Naxos. One work I recall enjoying on a 'Latin American' orchestral compilation I own was called Encantamento. I wish this work would get performed more often. By the way, nice list. :)

I like Guarnieri's music a lot, too. His music has Bartokian rhythmic ferocity seasoned with the color and melodic nature of Brazilian folk music. BTW his VCs 1 and 2 and Choro for violin and orchestra, all great works which have not received commercial recordings, can be found in excellent performances and sound on YT:

VC 1:
I:  http://youtu.be/614MgBirq4w
II: http://youtu.be/dntDFB4K_WY
III: http://youtu.be/O_X3uYDLizo

VC 2:
I: http://youtu.be/N6skXd5ki5I
II: http://youtu.be/9VjiNHYf5WY
III: http://youtu.be/KvVCNYLTPTM

Choro:
I: http://youtu.be/qxphYEsfgXA
II: http://youtu.be/YTwAu2_YJ9s
III: http://youtu.be/PyvH0OX9mHs

Czerny: Symphony No. 6
Hummel: Piano Concerto No.2 in A minor, Op.85
Alnaes: Piano Concerto
Elgar: Music Makers
Burgmuller: Symphony No. 1
Richter (Franz): Grandes Symphonies
Tyberg: Symphony No. 3
Godowsky: Complete Studies on Chopin's Etudes

You must have meant 8, not 5. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 07, 2013, 09:10:59 PM
I like Guarnieri's music a lot, too.

I'm starting to think that MCG was a better composer than HVL.

Quote from: Daverz on September 08, 2013, 07:50:02 AM
I'm starting to think that MCG was a better composer than HVL.

I would say V-L was a greater composer than Guarnieri, but the latter is certainly underrated compared to the former.

Since John created three lists, I might as well do the same:

Novak: De profundis
Melartin: Symphony no. 4
Holmboe: Four Symphonic Metamorphoses
Arthur Benjamin: Symphony
Joseph Marx: Romantisches Klavierkonzert

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 09:43:34 AM
Since John created three lists, I might as well do the same:

He's a bad influence, man. He's leading you astray.

Sarge

Luke Ottevanger, Canticle Sonata
Ivan Moody, Passione popolare
Charles Turner, Little Goblin Music
Mark Gresham, Mortal Coils
Chris Forbes, O Oriens

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on September 08, 2013, 10:09:06 AM
He's a bad influence, man. He's leading you astray.

Sarge

He's created a monster! :P

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 10:11:57 AM
He's created a monster! :P

He hardly needs to create a monster. He is one!

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 08:04:47 AM
I would say V-L was a greater composer than Guarnieri, but the latter is certainly underrated compared to the former.

My problem with VL is that he seems to noodle around too much.  Guarnieri is a very concise composer.

Quote from: Daverz on September 08, 2013, 10:17:34 AM
My problem with VL is that he seems to noodle around too much.  Guarnieri is a very concise composer.

Yeah, structure wasn't one of V-L's strengths, but if you approach his music by just letting yourself soak up all the sumptuous sounds he creates rather than trying to analyze it too much, chances are you'll come to appreciate it a little better. Personally, I love V-L's "everything but the kitchen sink" approach to composition, but I know others are perplexed by it, and that's understandable. :)

My first five:

Y.Skold: 2nd symphony
Leifs: Requiem (4 minutes of exquisite a capella)
Tveitt: First Piano Concerto
Schumann: Violin Concerto
Alwyn: Elizabethan Dances

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 08, 2013, 11:17:08 AM
My first five:

Y.Skold: 2nd symphony
Leifs: Requiem (4 minutes of exquisite a capella)
Tveitt: First Piano Concerto
Schumann: Violin Concerto
Alwyn: Elizabethan Dances

Nice list! It's a shame how neglected Skold is by the record companies. His emotional music is very much in the same neo-romantic vein of Atterberg, Barber and Walton. Leifs, Tveitt and Alwyn are all fantastic composers whom I have expressed my love of before. You're the second person to mention the Schumann VC; I'll have to revisit it!

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 11:51:18 AM
Nice list! It's a shame how neglected Skold is by the record companies. His emotional music is very much in the same neo-romantic vein of Atterberg, Barber and Walton. Leifs, Tveitt and Alwyn are all fantastic composers whom I have expressed my love of before. You're the second person to mention the Schumann VC; I'll have to revisit it!

Thanks, as are yours! And indeed. I only knew of his music as I was friends online with a relative of Skold who uploaded much of his music. It's far too unrecorded. If I'm successful as a conductor, I would certainly be keen to include his music in my programmes. And I love all those three very much too. With Leifs, often his music is so terrifying and thrilling, and I love all that too, but small gems like the Requiem are just so simple and gorgeous. :) Definitely do, one of my favourite Schumann pieces!

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 08, 2013, 11:17:08 AM

Leifs: Requiem (4 minutes of exquisite a capella)

Oh, now that is lovely - have just listened to both versions on Spotify (the one on the Hekla disc is better, to my ears, although both are good).  I'm going to recommend it straight away to the director of the choir I sing in, although the Icelandic could be a problem, as could all the false relations.  Sounds a bit like Arvo Pärt set to music  ;)

For what it's worth, my list - Stravinsky's:

Capriccio for piano and orchestra
Concertino for string quartet
Canticum Sacrum
Cantata
Canticles, Requiem

DF

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 08, 2013, 11:17:08 AM
Leifs: Requiem (4 minutes of exquisite a capella)
Schumann: Violin Concerto

Yes!

My first five:
Enescu: Violin Sonata No. 3
Ireland: Piano Concerto
Finzi: Cello Concerto
Satie: Socrate
Suk: About Mother

Quote from: North Star on September 08, 2013, 01:04:49 PM
Yes!

My first five:
Enescu: Violin Sonata No. 3
Ireland: Piano Concerto
Finzi: Cello Concerto
Satie: Socrate
Suk: About Mother

+1 for the Finzi. :)

For me:

Melartin Symphony No.6 (since No.4 has already been mentioned)
Holmboe Symphony No.8
Hartmann Symphony No.2
Leifs Hekla
Satie Entr'acte

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 08, 2013, 01:53:41 PM
For me:

Melartin Symphony No.6 (since No.4 has already be mentioned)
Holmboe Symphony No.8
Hartmann Symphony No.2
Leifs Hekla
Satie Entr'acte

Except for the Satie, all choices I heartily endorse! 8)

Quote from: DaveF on September 08, 2013, 12:47:13 PM
Oh, now that is lovely - have just listened to both versions on Spotify (the one on the Hekla disc is better, to my ears, although both are good).  I'm going to recommend it straight away to the director of the choir I sing in, although the Icelandic could be a problem, as could all the false relations.  Sounds a bit like Arvo Pärt set to music  ;)

Glad you liked it so much, Dave! It really is lovely! And yes, the one on the Hekla disc is particularly beautiful. Good luck with recommending it to your director, I'm sure it will be gorgeous to sing!! :) haha :D

John, I blame you for this! :P

Hartmann: Symphony no. 6
Leifs: Hekla
Alwyn: Symphony no. 3
Aho: Symphonic Dances
Gliere: Symphony no. 3 Ilya Murometz

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 02:21:32 PM
John, I blame you for this! :P

Hartmann: Symphony no. 6
Leifs: Hekla
Alwyn: Symphony no. 3
Aho: Symphonic Dances
Gliere: Symphony no. 3 Ilya Murometz

Easy fella. No one has outdone John and lived to tell about it. He will never tolerate this!

PS: Love the Leifs, Alwyn and Hartmann inclusions.

Quote from: springrite on September 08, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
Easy fella. No one has outdone John and lived to tell about it. He will never tolerate this!

PS: Love the Leifs, Alwyn and Hartmann inclusions.

Yeah, John's a scary guy! >:D

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 08, 2013, 01:53:41 PM
For me:

Melartin Symphony No.6 (since No.4 has already been mentioned)
Holmboe Symphony No.8
Hartmann Symphony No.2
Leifs Hekla
Satie Entr'acte

Nice list, Ilaria! Love the inclusion of Hartmann, Holmboe, and Leifs. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 02:21:32 PM
John, I blame you for this! :P

Hartmann: Symphony no. 6
Leifs: Hekla
Alwyn: Symphony no. 3
Aho: Symphonic Dances
Gliere: Symphony no. 3 Ilya Murometz

Thumbs up, Kyle. These are all fine works for sure. :)

Quote from: springrite on September 08, 2013, 02:26:33 PM
Easy fella. No one has outdone John and lived to tell about it. He will never tolerate this!

:P

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 02:29:43 PM
Yeah, John's a scary guy! >:D

:P

Another list of five :)

Revueltas: Janitzio
Estevez: La Cantata Criolla
Bacewicz: Violin Concerto No. 3
Saeverud: Peer Gynt Suites 1 & 2
Eller: Elegy

Yet another list:

Suk: Asrael Symphony
Martinu: Concerto for Double String Orchestra, Piano and Timpani
Tveitt: Piano Concerto no. 4
Finzi: Cello Concerto
Karlowicz: Stanislaw and Anna Oswiecim

Another list:

Casella: Cello Concerto
Chavez: Sinfonía romántica
Kurtag: Stele
Schreker: Vorspiel zu einem Drama
Vine: Oboe Concerto

Continuing to feed off John :P:

Kokkonen: Symphony no. 4
Tubin: Symphony no. 4
Koechlin: Le Docteur Fabricius
Zemlinsky: Die Seejungfrau
Ludolf Nielsen: Symphony no. 3

I didn't know you were a Koechlin fan, Kyle. Excellent!!! He's one of my favorite composers. He was my avatar for many months a year or so ago.

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 08, 2013, 07:16:19 PM
I didn't know you were a Koechlin fan, Kyle. Excellent!!! He's one of my favorite composers. He was my avatar for many months a year or so ago.

Yes, I am. :) I don't know why I haven't talked about my admiration of his music before now. I think he was a very individual composer whose achievements are sadly overlooked. His music is superbly atmospheric and haunting. I'm hoping Hanssler Classic will continue their invaluable Koechlin series with Heinz Holliger conducting. I'm especially hoping they'll record his two numbered symphonies, which are apparently quite substantial works. The latest volume in the series, which consisted of orchestrations Koechlin made of other composers' compositions and only one short piece by Koechlin himself, was a bit disappointing compared to the previous volumes, though.

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 07:35:31 PM
Yes, I am. :) I don't know why I haven't talked about my admiration of his music before now. I think he was a very individual composer whose achievements are sadly overlooked. His music is superbly atmospheric and haunting. I'm hoping Hanssler Classic will continue their invaluable Koechlin series with Heinz Holliger conducting. I'm especially hoping they'll record his two numbered symphonies, which are apparently quite substantial works. The latest volume in the series, which consisted of orchestrations Koechlin made of other composers' compositions and only one short piece by Koechlin himself, was a bit disappointing compared to the previous volumes, though.

I agree with every word here, Kyle. I, too, was quite disappointed with latest Hanssler recording. I don't want to hear his orchestrations. I wanted to hear more original compositions. I view Koechlin as the bridge between Debussy and Messiaen. He certainly was a master of color and his harmonic sense is what has continued to captivate me every time I hear his music. I've written pretty extensively on the Koechlin thread if you have to time to seek that thread out. I've also written two Amazon reviews which seem to have generated some good feedback. Yes, let's just hope Holliger continues his Koechlin series.

Sticking with these, while y'all are so busy with your multiple lists, not a soul is curious about my one list.  Yup, sticking to the rules just means you get ground into the dust . . . .

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 08, 2013, 10:10:00 AM
Luke Ottevanger, Canticle Sonata
Ivan Moody, Passione popolare
Charles Turner, Little Goblin Music
Mark Gresham, Mortal Coils
Chris Forbes, O Oriens

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 09, 2013, 04:31:19 AM
Sticking with these, while y'all are so busy with your multiple lists, not a soul is curious about my one list.  Yup, sticking to the rules just means you get ground into the dust . . . .

They didn't like my list either....but I'm used to it... :P

Off of the top of my head...

Clementi's Piano Sonatas
Gorecki's String Quartets #1-2
RVW's Oboe Concerto

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 08, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
Nice list, Ilaria! Love the inclusion of Hartmann, Holmboe, and Leifs. :)

Thank you, John. :)

Another list could be:

Novák Lady Godiva
Chavez Sinfonía índia
Aho Symphony No.7
Alwyn The Magic Island
Griffes The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan

Quote from: mc ukrneal on September 09, 2013, 04:49:55 AM
They didn't like my list either....but I'm used to it... :P

Don't just take it!   >:D

Quote from: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 04:54:41 AM
Off of the top of my head...

Clementi's Piano Sonatas
Gorecki's String Quartets #1-2
RVW's Oboe Concerto

That Concerto is mighty sweet, Davey.

Oh yeah there is also a sonata by Henning that I like! ;D

Quote from: DavidW on September 09, 2013, 04:59:04 AM
Oh yeah there is also a sonata by Henning that I like! ;D

The Viola Sonata? Yes! I'd suggest Karl take Forbes off his list and replace it with his very own Viola Sonata!

Yup viola sonata is below the green lemon.

Thanks, gents. Thought it would be bad form for me to list my own piece.

(And I do like the five on my list very much! They should be heard more!)

Another list:

Lyadov: Eight Russian Folksongs
Aho: Flute Concerto
Forsyth: Atayoskewin
Janacek: Danube
Hindemith: Die vier Temperamente

Magnard: Violin Sonata
Brian: Symphony No.1 Gothic
Szymanowski: Violin Concerto No. 1
Casella: Symphony No.3
Vermeulen; Symphony No.2 Prélude à la nouvelle journée

Quote from: mszczuj on September 09, 2013, 09:38:32 AM
Magnard: Violin Sonata
Brian: Symphony No.1 Gothic
Szymanowski: Violin Concerto No. 1
Casella: Symphony No.3
Vermeulen; Symphony No.2 Prélude à la nouvelle journée

The Gothic is certainly apt for this thread.  You remind me that I need to check out the Szymanowski vn concerti.

And I just might give the Magnard a checking out . . . .

Vermeulen - Symphony No.2
Escher - Le Tombeau de Ravel (for Flute, Oboe, Violin, Viola, Cello and Harpsichord), and actually most of his oeuvre...
Ton de Leeuw - Danses sacrees for Piano and Chamber ensemble (1991)
Martinu - Cello Sonatas

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 09, 2013, 04:55:26 AM
Thank you, John. :)

Another list could be:

Novák Lady Godiva
Chavez Sinfonía índia
Aho Symphony No.7
Alwyn The Magic Island
Griffes The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan

Another great list, Ilaria. :) It's a real shame Griffes didn't live to compose more music, as the compositions he did complete are incredibly beautiful indeed!

Quote from: mszczuj on September 09, 2013, 09:38:32 AM
Magnard: Violin Sonata
Brian: Symphony No.1 Gothic
Szymanowski: Violin Concerto No. 1
Casella: Symphony No.3
Vermeulen; Symphony No.2 Prélude à la nouvelle journée

You have excellent taste, my friend! :)

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 09, 2013, 09:44:41 AM
And I just might give the Magnard a checking out . . . .

You definitely should, Karl. Imagine Franck on steroids with influences from a violin sonata Bruckner never wrote, and you'll have an idea what this epic work is like.

Quote from: Klaze on September 09, 2013, 10:44:50 AM
Vermeulen - Symphony No.2
Escher - Le Tombeau de Ravel (for Flute, Oboe, Violin, Viola, Cello and Harpsichord), and actually most of his oeuvre...
Ton de Leeuw - Danses sacrees for Piano and Chamber ensemble (1991)
Martinu - Cello Sonatas

Nice, Klaze! Good to see someone carrying the torch for Escher! The orchestral works I have heard of his (especially Musique pour l'esprit en deuil) are all grand, powerful works. :) It's a shame that the recordings available of his music are so difficult to get ahold of. :(

Yet another list:

Fussell: Wilde Symphony
Somers: Suite for Harp and Chamber Orchestra
Galindo: Homenaje A Cervantes
Leifs: Réminiscence du Nord
Akutagawa: Rhapsody

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 09, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
Yet another list:

Fussell: Wilde Symphony
Somers: Suite for Harp and Chamber Orchestra
Galindo: Homenaje A Cervantes
Leifs: Réminiscence du Nord
Akutagawa: Rhapsody

Haven't heard the Fussell or the Somers. I'll have to rectify that situation ASAP! Can't recall offhand if I've heard the Galindo, but I probably have.

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 11:08:22 AM
Haven't heard the Fussell or the Somers. I'll have to rectify that situation ASAP! Can't recall offhand if I've heard the Galindo, but I probably have.

The Galindo is in the Musica Mexicana set on Brilliant Classics (originally issued on ASV). Harry Somers is commonly regarded as the most influential Canadian composer of the 20th Century. He's certainly a fine composer but his music doesn't always come right out and grab you, but multiple listens reveal this troubled soul.

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 09, 2013, 11:14:47 AM
The Galindo is in the Musica Mexicana set on Brilliant Classics (originally issued on ASV). Harry Somers is commonly regarded as the most influential Canadian composer of the 20th Century. He's certainly a fine composer but his music doesn't always come right out and grab you, but multiple listens reveal this troubled soul.

Thanks, John. Somers has been on my "to investigate" list for quite some time, but I haven't gotten around to him yet for some reason. What are your thoughts on Fussell? I'm not familiar with any of his music either. :(

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 11:18:18 AM
Thanks, John. Somers has been on my "to investigate" list for quite some time, but I haven't gotten around to him yet for some reason. What are your thoughts on Fussell? I'm not familiar with any of his music either. :(

I'll need to go back to listen to Fussell again, Kyle. It's so hard to sum up a composer's style in words. You should definitely buy the Somers' Portrait box set released by Centrediscs. It's 3-CDs of his orchestral music with a 4th disc containing spoken documentary about his life. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Portrait-Harry-Somers/dp/B000P8ZS9U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1378754603&sr=1-1&keywords=Somers+Portrait

Also, Kyle check out the composer thread I created for Somers:

http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,21152.msg674706.html#msg674706

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 08, 2013, 02:16:07 PM
Glad you liked it so much, Dave! It really is lovely! And yes, the one on the Hekla disc is particularly beautiful. Good luck with recommending it to your director, I'm sure it will be gorgeous to sing!! :) haha :D

Thanks again for the recommendation.  Who would ever have attributed it to the composer of Geysir?  Of course, it shouldn't be in this thread at all, because it is actually, er, sung - although if/when the Unicorn Singers of Llangattock get hold of it, it may not sound like it...

DF

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 10:51:48 AM
Another great list, Ilaria. :) It's a real shame Griffes didn't live to compose more music, as the compositions he did complete are incredibly beautiful indeed!

Thank you. :) The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan is the only Griffes' work I've listened to so far, but it's a great composition, thrilling, colourful and beautifully evocative, it wonderfully depicts the atmospheres and the landscapes where Coleridge's poem takes place. Yes, that's a pity his music isn't very famous, his style sounds doubtless interesting.

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 09, 2013, 12:49:59 PM
Thank you. :) The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan is the only Griffes' work I've listened to so far, but it's a great composition, thrilling, colourful and beautifully evocative, it wonderfully depicts the atmospheres and the landscapes where Coleridge's poem takes place. Yes, that's a pity his music isn't very famous, his style sounds doubtless interesting.

You should definitely check out this incredible Naxos disc, which includes The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan and other short orchestral works:

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Also, this is a great collection of his imaginative solo piano works:

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:)

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 12:54:31 PM
You should definitely check out this incredible Naxos disc, which includes The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan and other short orchestral works:

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Also, this is a great collection of his imaginative solo piano works:

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:)

Thank you for the suggestions, Kyle, I will certainly have a listen to these discs. :)

Another list:

Broadstock: Symphony no. 5 Dark Side
Sallinen: Songs of Life and Death
Rautavaara: Symphony no. 7 Angel of Light
Rudolf Tobias: Oratorio Das Jonas Sendung
Englund: Symphony no. 2 Blackbird

Kyle, kudos for mentioning Broadstock. He's such an underrated composer. One of the best composers from Australia along with Sculthorpe and Vine.

Merikanto: Symphonic Poem Pan
d'Indy: Symphony no. 2 in B-flat major
Bohnke: Symphony
Rudi Stephan: Music for Orchestra (1912, to distinguish it from the piece of the same name Stephan wrote in 1910, which is also excellent)
Gerard Victory: Oratorio Ultima Rerum

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 09, 2013, 04:02:28 PM
Kyle, kudos for mentioning Broadstock. He's such an underrated composer. One of the best composers from Australia along with Sculthorpe and Vine.

Thanks, John. Broadstock's music has staying power. I like Sculthorpe's and Vine's music a lot, but Broadstock is my favorite Australian composer. He really poured his heart into his highly emotional music.

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
Thanks, John. Broadstock's music has staying power. I like Sculthorpe's and Vine's music a lot, but Broadstock is my favorite Australian composer. He really poured his heart into his highly emotional music.

Agreed. His music certainly reveals his soul as his symphonies clearly demonstrate.

I'll provide links to recordings of all the pieces I've mentioned thus far:

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There! That should keep you guys busy for a while! :D And doesn't that colorful mosaic of CD covers look so beautiful......

Quote from: kyjo on September 08, 2013, 02:03:19 PM
Except for the Satie, all choices I heartily endorse! 8)

Do you know Socrate?

Another five:

Ravel: Histoires naturelles (and all the other songs, really)
Mompou: Musica Callada (Perianes/Henck/Lin/Mompou)
Ysaÿe: Sonates pour violon solo (Zehetmair)
Henning: Misapprehension
Ottevanger: Around Fern Hill

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 06:01:28 PM
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I think this work benefits from better recording quality:

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Quote from: Daverz on September 10, 2013, 02:49:06 AM
I think this work benefits from better recording quality:

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+1 I prefer the Kubelik on Wergo, but that's a very good performance from Leitner.

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on September 09, 2013, 04:55:26 AM
Chavez Sinfonía índia

It shows up on many discs of Latin American "lollipops".  I've managed to accrue 7 recordings of it without even trying.

Quote from: Daverz on September 10, 2013, 07:06:06 AM
It shows up on many discs of Latin American "lollipops".  I've managed to accrue 7 recordings of it without even trying.

Indeed and I would imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to hear Sinfonia India in Mexico but hearing an American or European orchestra perform it is another matter entirely.

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 10, 2013, 07:08:38 AM
Indeed and I would imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to hear Sinfonia India in Mexico but hearing an American or European orchestra perform it is another matter entirely.

Nor an Orchestra in India, or Navajo Country!

Quote from: springrite on September 10, 2013, 07:09:55 AM
Nor an Orchestra in India, or Navajo Country!

:P

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 10, 2013, 07:08:38 AM
Indeed and I would imagine it wouldn't be too difficult to hear Sinfonia India in Mexico but hearing an American or European orchestra perform it is another matter entirely.

A lot of works that are popular on records never seem to make it onto concert programs. The Martinu symphonies, for example.  Well, any Martinu for that matter.

Quote from: Daverz on September 10, 2013, 07:25:39 AM
A lot of works that are popular on records never seem to make it onto concert programs. The Martinu symphonies, for example.  Well, any Martinu for that matter.

Which is why Sinfonia India is an 'unsung' work. Don't get me started on the neglect of Martinu. It's truly a sad case that I can't hear my local orchestra, the Atlanta SO, or even the New York Philharmonic or the LA Philharmonic perform any Martinu.

    Nikolai Myaskovsky : Symphony no 8 .
   
    Roussel : Evocations , for orchestra , chorus and soloists .

    Wilhelm Stenhammar : Serenade in F for orchestra .

    Sir Arthur Bliss :   A Color symphony .

    Mily Balakirev .  Symphony no 1 in C major .
   

Quote from: Superhorn on September 10, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
    Nikolai Myaskovsky : Symphony no 8 .
   
    Roussel : Evocations , for orchestra , chorus and soloists .

    Wilhelm Stenhammar : Serenade in F for orchestra .

    Sir Arthur Bliss :   A Color symphony .

    Mily Balakirev .  Symphony no 1 in C major .
   

All top-notch works, Superhorn.

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 10, 2013, 07:28:38 AM
Which is why Sinfonia India is an 'unsung' work. Don't get me started on the neglect of Martinu. It's truly a sad case that I can't hear my local orchestra, the Atlanta SO, or even the New York Philharmonic or the LA Philharmonic perform any Martinu.

To be fair, LA Phil is one of the most adventurous orchestras in the US, with many world premieres from Salonen, Saariaho, etc., and plays lots of lesser known works, including many Latin American works.

I think they did schedule the Chavez symphony at least once when I was in LA. Either him or a Ponce Concerto (violin?). Either way I missed that concert because as a young man a more urgent opportunity had higher priority at the time, if you know what I mean.

Quote from: springrite on September 10, 2013, 07:33:12 AM
To be fair, LA Phil is one of the most adventurous orchestras in the US, with many world premieres from Salonen, Saariaho, etc., and plays lots of lesser known works, including many Latin American works.

I think they did schedule the Chavez symphony at least once when I was in LA. Either him or a Ponce Concerto (violin?). Either way I missed that concert because as a young man a more urgent opportunity had higher priority at the time, if you know what I mean.

I agree, Paul. I guess I was letting my anger get the better of me again in regards to Martinu not getting performed enough. FYI, Manuel Ponce is a great composer. His Concierto del sur is a masterpiece IMHO.

   The  New York Philharmonic has performed   recently, I believe a symphony by Martinu under its music director Alan Gilbert , and other works by him previously .  Even before Gilbert, the orchestra has played n extraordinarily wide variety of repertoire  ranging from baroque
to the latest contemporry composers  ,incluing many,many interesting rrities from the pst under  its music directors and guest conductors .
    Yet for some reason, critics ,local nd elsewhere have been consistently ccusing of being "stodgy and hidebound, even though nothing
could be farther from the truth .  There has been a lot of hype about how innovative Gilbert's programming has been, and although
his progrmming is  very interesting, the same has been true for decades under  Mzel,Masur,nd Mehta .
     

    Oops. That should be Maazel. I'm having difficulty with the a key on my keyboard .

Quote from: Superhorn on September 10, 2013, 07:43:24 AM
   The  New York Philharmonic has performed   recently, I believe a symphony by Martinu under its music director Alan Gilbert , and other works by him previously .  Even before Gilbert, the orchestra has played n extraordinarily wide variety of repertoire  ranging from baroque
to the latest contemporry composers  ,incluing many,many interesting rrities from the pst under  its music directors and guest conductors .
    Yet for some reason, critics ,local nd elsewhere have been consistently ccusing of being "stodgy and hidebound, even though nothing
could be farther from the truth .  There has been a lot of hype about how innovative Gilbert's programming has been, and although
his progrmming is  very interesting, the same has been true for decades under  Mzel,Masur,nd Mehta .
     

The New York Philharmonic have played a wide variety of music, especially during Bernstein's years. I mean look at all the great virtually 'unknown' American repertoire they recorded back in the '60s. But my complaint was merely about Martinu not getting much performance and not the variety of music orchestras like the LA Philharmonic or the NY Philharmonic perform.

Quote from: Superhorn on September 10, 2013, 07:29:48 AM
    Nikolai Myaskovsky : Symphony no 8 .
   
    Roussel : Evocations , for orchestra , chorus and soloists .

    Wilhelm Stenhammar : Serenade in F for orchestra .

    Sir Arthur Bliss :   A Color symphony .

    Mily Balakirev .  Symphony no 1 in C major .
   

Five stunning works right there! :)

Really anything from Paul Schoenfield (Cafe Music, Camp Songs, Ghetto Songs, Viola Concerto) but from this disc the jazzy, dramatic but fun and klezmer-infused Vaudeville for Piccolo Trumpet and Orchestra.


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Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 10, 2013, 11:00:24 AM
Really anything from Paul Schoenfield (Cafe Music, Camp Songs, Ghetto Songs, Viola Concerto) but from this disc the jazzy, dramatic but fun and klezmer-infused Vaudeville for Piccolo Trumpet and Orchestra.


(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aBEhFY2oL._SS300_.jpg)

I really like Four Parables, a fun, jazzy work with a passionate Elegy at its center. I didn't care so much for the rest of the works on that disc, though. They struck me as too "crossover-ish" for my tastes.

Quote from: kyjo on September 10, 2013, 11:30:13 AM
I really like Four Parables, a fun, jazzy work with a passionate Elegy at its center. I didn't care so much for the rest of the works on that disc, though. They struck me as too "crossover-ish" for my tastes.

Crossover? Nope, don't see Groban or Brightmans names attached.  ;D

Quote from: sanantonio on September 10, 2013, 11:25:00 AM
I agree.   I almost had a chance to meet him when he came to Clarksville in 2011, to Austin Peay University, and played several of his new (then) chamber works.  But the weather was terrible, snow, which is somewhat rare for this part of the country, which prohibited me from traveling the 50 miles north of Nashville.

Bummer.
I wish there was more of Shoenfield's music recorded for variety of interpretations, but I shouldn't greedy, I must say there is a good amount, enough to satisfy my M.M. (Monthly Mandatory) listening sessions.

Samples sound nice, I've wish-listed it.

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 10, 2013, 11:34:18 AM
Crossover? Nope, don't see Groban or Brightmans names attached.  ;D

Quote from: HamletHow absolute the knave is! We must speak by the card, or equivocation will undo us.

I've been a big fan of Paul Schoenfield ever since a violist I knew in college burned me a CD of Schoenfield's Cafe Music and a Schnittke Concerto grosso to show just huge the range of contemporary music is. It did the job!

Medtner: Second Improvisation, op.47
Alkan: Grand duo concertant, op.21
Schreker: Kammersymphonie
Korngold: Piano Concerto for the left hand, op.17
Vaughan Williams: The Pilgrim's Progress

Quote from: Wanderer on September 10, 2013, 11:52:36 AM
Medtner: Second Improvisation, op.47
Alkan: Grand duo concertant, op.21
Schreker: Kammersymphonie
Korngold: Piano Concerto for the left hand, op.17
Vaughan Williams: The Pilgrim's Progress

+1 for the Schreker and the Korngold. :)

Quote from: Brian on September 10, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
. . . and a Schnittke Concerto grosso [....]

I am guessing that, if you did, you had mentioned it, but I have to ask: do you recall just which, dear fellow?

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 10, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
I am guessing that, if you did, you had mentioned it, but I have to ask: do you recall just which, dear fellow?

Alas, your guess is confirmed. I don't remember which.  :( I think Gidon Kremer was involved?

Busoni: Piano Concerto
Diepenbrock: Symphonic Suite from Elektra
Lilburn: Symphony no. 2
Irgens-Jensen: Passacaglia
Liadov: From the Apocalypse

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Another list:

F. Martin: Cello Concerto
Barber: Piano Concerto
Dallapiccola: Frammenti sinfonici
Meyer: Mass
Mills: Bamaga Diptych

Mr. Mirror Image - Richard Mills I've found...not the Diptych, sadly, but Soundscapes, on YT. Not bad at all !
However, am struggling with the Meyer Mass; is this Ernst, 'cos nothing comes up on Google at all ?

Quote from: kyjo on September 09, 2013, 06:01:28 PM


There! That should keep you guys busy for a while! :D And doesn't that colorful mosaic of CD covers look so beautiful......

Gee, that's some terrific music you've got there...and yes, the sleeves are pretty too !

Quote from: cjvinthechair on September 11, 2013, 05:49:43 AM
Mr. Mirror Image - Richard Mills I've found...not the Diptych, sadly, but Soundscapes, on YT. Not bad at all !
However, am struggling with the Meyer Mass; is this Ernst, 'cos nothing comes up on Google at all ?

I'm also not sure what he's referring to by the "Meyer Mass". Could you please clarify, John?

Taneyev: Symphony no. 4
Boris Tchaikovsky: Sebastopol Symphony (Symphony no. 3)
Rodó: Symphony no. 2
Blomdahl: Symphony no. 3 Facetten
Lars-Erik Larsson: Symphony no. 2

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Petr Eben - The Labyrinth of the World and the Paradise of the Heart
Rued Langgaard - The Music of the Spheres
Philip Glass - Akhnaten*
Gérard Grisey - Partiels pour 18 musiciens
Jan Dismas Zelenka - Missa votiva

*not that it is entirely "unsung" but it is overshadowed by both Einstein & Satyagraha, undeservedly so

Quote from: Rinaldo on September 11, 2013, 01:16:00 PM
Petr Eben - The Labyrinth of the World and the Paradise of the Heart
Rued Langgaard - The Music of the Spheres
Philip Glass - Akhnaten*
Gérard Grisey - Partiels pour 18 musiciens
Jan Dismas Zelenka - Missa votiva

*not that it is entirely "unsung" but it is overshadowed by both Einstein & Satyagraha, undeservedly so

+1 for the Langgaard!

Another one from me.... :D

Novak: Lady Godiva
Casella: Symphony 3
Simpson: Symphony 4
Taneyev: Oresteia Overture
Elgar: Dream Children

and Glazunov 4 :) And everyone needs to hear the finale of Taneyev 4, it's brilliant! :D

2nd set:

Raff: Symphony No.3 Im Walde
Faure: Piano Trio
Lyapunov: Hashish
Diepenbrock: Marsyas
Lutosławski: Preludes and a Fugue

Quote from: madaboutmahler on September 11, 2013, 01:30:16 PM
Another one from me.... :D

Novak: Lady Godiva
Casella: Symphony 3
Simpson: Symphony 4
Taneyev: Oresteia Overture
Elgar: Dream Children

and Glazunov 4 :) And everyone needs to hear the finale of Taneyev 4, it's brilliant! :D

Agree with you about Taneyev 4-what a thrilling, majestic work! Nice list BTW. Casella's Symphony no. 3 is one of the greatest works of the 20th century IMO. :)

P.S. Have you heard Simpson's Ninth, Daniel? It is, without a doubt, his masterwork and a work of tremendous power. :)

Quote from: mszczuj on September 11, 2013, 01:33:25 PM
2nd set:

Raff: Symphony No.3 Im Walde
Faure: Piano Trio
Lyapunov: Hashish
Diepenbrock: Marsyas
Lutosławski: Preludes and a Fugue

The Diepenbrock work is indeed lovely. His Symphonic Suite from Elektra (which I listed) is an even more stunning composition IMO.

Quote from: kyjo on September 11, 2013, 01:39:40 PM
Agree with you about Taneyev 4-what a thrilling, majestic work!

Amen! 

And allow me one more time today to mention an "unsung" work which is definitely sung:

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Quote from: kyjo on September 11, 2013, 01:42:12 PM
The Diepenbrock work is indeed lovely. His Symphonic Suite from Elektra (which I listed) is an even more stunning composition IMO.

Alas, I can't stop thinking about other Elektra while listen to the Diepenbrock one.

Quote from: mszczuj on September 11, 2013, 02:04:23 PM
Alas, I can't stop thinking about other Elektra while listen to the Diepenbrock one.

It's the other way around for me! :D

Another one:

Lumbye Kopenhagener Eisenbahn - Dampf Galopp
Hellmesberger Danse diabolique
Alkan Sonatine
Simpson Symphony No.7
Martucci Nocturne No.1 Op.70

Quote from: kyjo on September 11, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
I'm also not sure what he's referring to by the "Meyer Mass". Could you please clarify, John?

Sure:

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Krzysztof Meyer: Mass

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 11, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Sure:

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Krzysztof Meyer: Mass

Thanks. I'm not familiar with any of Meyer's music and will have to acquaint myself with it soon! Love your Shosty avatar by the way. I better not see Schnittke back up there, though! ;)

THE UNSUNG WORKS PROJECT: THE RESULTS

I decided to go through this thread and listen to a bunch of works I hadn't heard before. I started skimming around page 3-4, when it turned into "kyjo and Mirror Image just list all the post-romantic music they like." But I got through a lot of the suggestions. Here are my thoughts on the stuff I heard!

Again, if I previously knew a work, it's not included in this post.

1. Chavez: Horse Power Suite - Mirror Image
Entertaining ballet. Not the most memorable, but a fun listen.

2. Braga Santos: Symphony No. 2 - Mirror Image
Dull. Really did not like this symphony; formless, shapeless, like a big blob of not very interesting tunes.

3. Nielsen: Wind Quintet - springrite
Okay, I cheated; I had heard this piece once on an airline flight. It freaking rocks. So much fun.

4. Enescu: Suites for Piano 1 and 2 - Bulldog
Really astonished by how good this music was. Well above the neoclassical piano average.

5. Gade: Elverskud, Op. 30 - Bulldog
A diverting 45 minutes with some writing that felt "scenic," if that makes sense.

6. Ernesto Haelffter: Sinfonietta - Daverz
Wow! Just plain fantastic, truly imaginative scoring, witty, clever, really fun piece. I'm gonna seek out more E. Halffter now.

7. Douglas Moore: Symphony No. 2 - Daverz
Just kinda cutesy. Didn't seem to mean it.

8. Tubin: Sinfonietta on Estonian Motifs - Mirror Image
Fairly enjoyable, but I'm not sure I'll listen again.

9. Czerny: Symphony No. 6 - mc ukrneal
Pretty nice. Reminded me of Schubert, but without the easy tunes. A good symphony.

10. Novak: De profundis - kyjo
Godawful. I hated this piece. Way too serious, way too long, way too busy predicting doom and digging a bomb shelter. And I like Novak's music, too. This is just the Glenn Beck of Novak pieces.

11. Y.Skold: 2nd symphony - madaboutmahler
Pretty enjoyable symphony. Like Atterberg but slightly less. Great ending!

12. Leifs: Requiem - madaboutmahler
Frikkin amazing. Brilliant choral piece.

13. Vaughan Williams: Oboe Concerto - DavidW
Cute. So short. If I could only take one oboe concerto to a desert island it would be Martinu's.

14. Krzysztof Meyer: Mass - Mirror Image
I have this one playing now. Really enjoying it, actually.


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AS FOR MY OWN "FIVE" CHOICES

Martinu - Oboe Concerto
Jean Cras - String Trio and/or Quintet for harp, flute, and strings
Carl Stamitz - Cello Concerto No. 2
Weinberg - Cello Concerto
Kalliwoda - Symphony No. 5
C.P.E. Bach - more or less his entire output
J.S. Bach - the cello suites played on a viola

Plus everything on this ass-kickingly awesome CD of contemporary string quartets:

(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/June13/Zia_DSL92164.jpg) (http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/June13/Zia_DSL92164.htm)
(link goes to my review)
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Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
THE UNSUNG WORKS PROJECT: THE RESULTS

I decided to go through this thread and listen to a bunch of works I hadn't heard before. I started skimming around page 3-4, when it turned into "kyjo and Mirror Image just list all the post-romantic music they like." But I got through a lot of the suggestions. Here are my thoughts on the stuff I heard!

Again, if I previously knew a work, it's not included in this post.

1. Chavez: Horse Power Suite - Mirror Image
Entertaining ballet. Not the most memorable, but a fun listen.

2. Braga Santos: Symphony No. 2 - Mirror Image
Dull. Really did not like this symphony; formless, shapeless, like a big blob of not very interesting tunes.

3. Nielsen: Wind Quintet - springrite
Okay, I cheated; I had heard this piece once on an airline flight. It freaking rocks. So much fun.

4. Enescu: Suites for Piano 1 and 2 - Bulldog
Really astonished by how good this music was. Well above the neoclassical piano average.

5. Gade: Elverskud, Op. 30 - Bulldog
A diverting 45 minutes with some writing that felt "scenic," if that makes sense.

6. Ernesto Haelffter: Sinfonietta - Daverz
Wow! Just plain fantastic, truly imaginative scoring, witty, clever, really fun piece. I'm gonna seek out more E. Halffter now.

7. Douglas Moore: Symphony No. 2 - Daverz
Just kinda cutesy. Didn't seem to mean it.

8. Tubin: Sinfonietta on Estonian Motifs - Mirror Image
Fairly enjoyable, but I'm not sure I'll listen again.

9. Czerny: Symphony No. 6 - mc ukrneal
Pretty nice. Reminded me of Schubert, but without the easy tunes. A good symphony.

10. Novak: De profundis - kyjo
Godawful. I hated this piece. Way too serious, way too long, way too busy predicting doom and digging a bomb shelter. And I like Novak's music, too. This is just the Glenn Beck of Novak pieces.

11. Y.Skold: 2nd symphony - madaboutmahler
Pretty enjoyable symphony. Like Atterberg but slightly less. Great ending!

12. Leifs: Requiem - madaboutmahler
Frikkin amazing. Brilliant choral piece.

13. Vaughan Williams: Oboe Concerto - DavidW
Cute. So short. If I could only take one oboe concerto to a desert island it would be Martinu's.

14. Krzysztof Meyer: Mass - Mirror Image
I have this one playing now. Really enjoying it, actually.


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AS FOR MY OWN "FIVE" CHOICES

Martinu - Oboe Concerto
Jean Cras - String Trio and/or Quintet for harp, flute, and strings
Carl Stamitz - Cello Concerto No. 2
Weinberg - Cello Concerto
Kalliwoda - Symphony No. 5
C.P.E. Bach - more or less his entire output
J.S. Bach - the cello suites played on a viola

Plus everything on this ass-kickingly awesome CD of contemporary string quartets:

(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/June13/Zia_DSL92164.jpg) (http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2013/June13/Zia_DSL92164.htm)
(link goes to my review)
EDIT:
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Those are some pretty harsh words about the Braga Santos and the Novak! >:( I also didn't like your comment about John and I listing all the "post-romantic" works we like. That's not true at all. I'm not stunned by every post-romantic work I hear, mind you. I've selected those that I believe are the most remarkable and, yes, stunning. I'm in a foul mood today, but just couldn't let that comment go unnoticed.....

BTW when listening to "unsung" music you have to have a more open mindset than you had when listening to a lot of those pieces, Brian.

I realize a lot of people are probably tired of me constantly carrying the banner for "unsung" composers, and I'm perfectly OK with that. Of course, my very favorite composers are and always will be the acknowledged "greats" (Rachmaninov, Tchaikovsky, Mahler, Sibelius, Shostakovich, Bruckner etc.), but I will reiterate any chance I get that there are so many other composers who are sadly neglected compared to the "greats". Listening to "unsung" music properly all about two things: exposure and persistence. One thing that really p*sses me off is when listeners automatically dismiss a composer or a piece of music just because it isn't "popular" or "well-known" enough. I couldn't give less of a damn whether a composer or piece is "popular" or not. People just need to shut up and listen! :D IMO a lot of the pieces I listed, many people would enjoy if they only would give them a try. If they don't enjoy or connect with it, that's OK too, as long as they've given it a fair shake and don't harshly criticize it like Brian has. Opinions can always change upon further hearings, especially with 20th century music. Persistence is another big factor. Many listeners rely on their sometimes negative first impressions only to judge the quality of a particular work. You need to fully absorb and spend time with the music. Take a composer like Rubbra for instance. His music has very little surface appeal. It will take the average listener around 3 or 4 listenings to fully grasp the depth and purpose of his music. This comment (or should I say rant) isn't only directed towards Brian; it is meant for everybody here. Many people will keep on listening to only the acknowledged "greats" and/or keep on dismissing "unsung" music and all I can say to them is you're missing out on a lot!

Apologies for the rant! :-[ Hopefully someone has gotten something out of this! :)

+1 for carrying the flag for unsungs. Keep on doing it. But I fail to see what is so harsh about Brian's criticism. He strongly disliked one work and gave his reasons for it, and was only moderately impressed with a few more. What's wrong with that?We are not talking gospel truth here, only personal opinions.

Quote from: The new erato on September 12, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
+1 for carrying the flag for unsungs. Keep on doing it. But I fail to see what is so harsh about Brian's criticism. He strongly disliked one work and gave his reasons for it, and was only moderately impressed with a few more. What's wrong with that?We are not talking gospel truth here, only personal opinions.

"A big blob of not very interesting tunes" was Brian's reaction to Braga Santos 2. I mean, a better way to phrase his opinion would be "I found this symphony a bit overlong and I wasn't able to detect much memorable material". I'm not saying Brian's opinion is wrong (though I profoundly disagree with it), but he could have at least worded it a little less harshly. Brian is the first person I've met who's had a negative opinion of Braga Santos and I guess the shock his comment gave me got the better of me. It was his comment about John and I listing all the "post-romantic" works we like that really ruffled me, not his opinions of the music.

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 01:26:46 PM
"A big blob of not very interesting tunes" was Brian's reaction to Braga Santos 2. I mean, a better way to phrase his opinion would be "I found this symphony a bit overlong and I wasn't able to detect much memorable material". I'm not saying Brian's opinion is wrong (though I profoundly disagree with it), but he could have at least worded it a little less harshly. Brian is the first person I've met who's had a negative opinion of Braga Santos and I guess the shock his comment gave me got the better of me. It was his comment about John and I listing all the "post-romantic" works we like that really ruffled me, not his opinions of the music.

I find Symphony 2 pleasant enough.  In 1-3, he does some of the things that make me love 4 so much, but 4 is where it all seems to jell.

Quote from: Daverz on September 12, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
I find Symphony 2 pleasant enough.  In 1-3, he does some of the things that make me love 4 so much, but 4 is where it all seems to jell.

I agree, no. 4 is his greatest symphony, but I view nos. 2 and 3 as being almost its equal. :)

i've also sort of skimmed this thread, less because it's mostly the same few people making lists and more because it's just that—lists.

If someone thinks that a particular piece is something "everyone" should hear, i want to know why—what is it that attracts you to this particular piece or composer? what emotions does it evoke in you? what sort of relationship do you have with the music? et cetera. i only see a few places where people try to express what makes these pieces great. elsewhere it's just... names. which often don't mean a whole lot to an unfamiliar listener.

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
6. Ernesto Haelffter: Sinfonietta - Daverz
Wow! Just plain fantastic, truly imaginative scoring, witty, clever, really fun piece. I'm gonna seek out more E. Halffter now.

You might try this one:

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Sonatina is actually a ballet.

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7. Douglas Moore: Symphony No. 2 - Daverz
Just kinda cutesy. Didn't seem to mean it.

Not sure what you mean by that.

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10. Novak: De profundis - kyjo
Godawful. I hated this piece. Way too serious, way too long, way too busy predicting doom and digging a bomb shelter. And I like Novak's music, too. This is just the Glenn Beck of Novak pieces.

I'm not even sure I've ever listened to this.  I would have mentioned one of the suites, either South Bohemian Suite or Slovak Suite.

Quote from: dyn on September 12, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
i want to know why—what is it that attracts you to this particular piece or composer? what emotions does it evoke in you? what sort of relationship do you have with the music? et cetera.

You should ask for your money back.

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 12:57:36 PM
I realize a lot of people are probably tired of me constantly carrying the banner for "unsung" composers, and I'm perfectly OK with that. Of course, my very favorite composers are and always will be the acknowledged "greats" (Rachmaninov, Tchaikovsky, Mahler, Sibelius, Shostakovich, Bruckner etc.), but I will reiterate any chance I get that there are so many other composers who are sadly neglected compared to the "greats". Listening to "unsung" music properly all about two things: exposure and persistence. One thing that really p*sses me off is when listeners automatically dismiss a composer or a piece of music just because it isn't "popular" or "well-known" enough. I couldn't give less of a damn whether a composer or piece is "popular" or not. People just need to shut up and listen! :D IMO a lot of the pieces I listed, many people would enjoy if they only would give them a try. If they don't enjoy or connect with it, that's OK too, as long as they've given it a fair shake and don't harshly criticize it like Brian has. Opinions can always change upon further hearings, especially with 20th century music. Persistence is another big factor. Many listeners rely on their sometimes negative first impressions only to judge the quality of a particular work. You need to fully absorb and spend time with the music. Take a composer like Rubbra for instance. His music has very little surface appeal. It will take the average listener around 3 or 4 listenings to fully grasp the depth and purpose of his music. This comment (or should I say rant) isn't only directed towards Brian; it is meant for everybody here. Many people will keep on listening to only the acknowledged "greats" and/or keep on dismissing "unsung" music and all I can say to them is you're missing out on a lot!

Apologies for the rant! :-[ Hopefully someone has gotten something out of this! :)

Executive summary:  "I will list every piece I've ever heard as an 'unsung masterpiece' and everyone is then obligated to 'give it a fair shake' or I will take offense." 

Actually, no.

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 01:26:46 PM
"A big blob of not very interesting tunes" was Brian's reaction to Braga Santos 2. I mean, a better way to phrase his opinion would be "I found this symphony a bit overlong and I wasn't able to detect much memorable material". I'm not saying Brian's opinion is wrong (though I profoundly disagree with it), but he could have at least worded it a little less harshly. Brian is the first person I've met who's had a negative opinion of Braga Santos and I guess the shock his comment gave me got the better of me. It was his comment about John and I listing all the "post-romantic" works we like that really ruffled me, not his opinions of the music.

Now you're in charge of telling us how to express ourselves? 

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 01:26:46 PMBrian is the first person I've met who's had a negative opinion of Braga Santos

Not true. Your mom kidding. I have a positive opinion of Braga Santos. I'm a big fan of the Fourth Symphony, and have admired many of his shorter works too (a divertimento and cello concerto, I think, were especially good? can't remember). I was one of the charter members of this forum's old unofficial club, the Braga Santos Enthusiasts. You're just so upset that somebody disagreed with you that you've jumped to all sorts of conclusions about me.

For example...

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
BTW when listening to "unsung" music you have to have a more open mindset than you had when listening to a lot of those pieces, Brian.

This and a few other unconnected remarks in your next post seem to imply that I'm not an "unsung" music person and that this is my first dabble with it. Not so. Just looking at page 1 and no further, I'm a fan of JBS 4, Atterberg 3 (and 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 ), the Gothic Symphony (which I have seen live), late Myaskovsky symphonies, and Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues. I've used my position as a reviewer over at MusicWeb to champion names like Auerbach, Aulin, Brouwer, Coleridge-Taylor, de Freitas, Francaix, Gyrowetz, Hamerik, Kats-Chernin, Thomas Oboe Lee, Quantz, and Vali in 2013 alone.

That said, I know what I like. There are certain things about music that make me like it more or less, just the same as anybody else. And as dyn so rightly points out, everyone in this thread (now including me) has just given out lists of pieces of music without any explanations as to their merits or why, particularly, "everyone should hear" them. Around page 4 of the thread this turned into lists of not just 5 per person but 25 per person with no attached notes or comments or justifications. So jumping in and listening to 14 pieces over the course of 2.5 days is kind of a big investment of time and energy.

I wasn't going to like all of them. Heck, you're not going to like all the pieces in this thread, assuming the thread's here for you to discover new music that other people post about, rather than congratulate other people on liking the music you already like. I'm sorry you're so personally hurt that I disliked a couple pieces. Here's hoping you get over it soon.

Now, I'm off to buy beer and pumpkin cider. Cheers!

EDIT: Misspelled "Quantz". Oops.

Quote from: Daverz on September 12, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
Not sure what you mean by that.

I'm not even sure I've ever listened to this.  I would have mentioned one of the suites, either South Bohemian Suite or Slovak Suite.

Thanks for the Halffter CD rec! I think that Moore symphony - hrmm I think what I meant was, it was like a scone, a little sweet and quite pleasant, but having finished it I can't really remember it.

The Slovak Suite is a lot of fun, and so is Novak's "In the Tatras". The two most popular works too, probably.

Quote from: dyn on September 12, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
i've also sort of skimmed this thread, less because it's mostly the same few people making lists and more because it's just that—lists.

If someone thinks that a particular piece is something "everyone" should hear, i want to know why—what is it that attracts you to this particular piece or composer? what emotions does it evoke in you? what sort of relationship do you have with the music? et cetera. i only see a few places where people try to express what makes these pieces great. elsewhere it's just... names. which often don't mean a whole lot to an unfamiliar listener.

You've got a good point, dyn. When I have more time, I'm going to go back and give descriptions of each piece I listed and why I believe everyone should hear it. :)

A few years ago I was re-introduced via GMG to Kalliwoda!

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Highly recommended!  After a nice start, it seems CPO is no longer making CD's of works by Kalliwoda.

Also an all-around fave: Mehul.

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Quote from: Cato on September 12, 2013, 03:58:03 PM
A few years ago I was re-introduced via GMG to Kalliwoda!

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Highly recommended!  After a nice start, it seems CPO is no longer making CD's of works by Kalliwoda.

Also an all-around fave: Mehul.

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Excellent! I really enjoy Kalivoda's and Mehul's symphonies. They have an involving Beethovenian vigor. Mehul's symphonies are actually quite forward-looking.

I would like to extend an apology to Brian for being such a jerk to him. I made it sound like my opinion is the only valid one, which is certainly not true. :-[ I think I was just more surprised than angry with Brian's post. It's just that Braga Santos and Novak happen to be composers close to my heart. Also, I completely agree with those who criticize this thread for being lists with no deeper meaning. Like I said before, I shall elaborate upon my lists when I have more time. I have been awfully busy lately and, therefore, abnormally cranky!  :D :)

OK, here's my first five:

Schmidt: Symphony no. 4: A deeply tragic work inspired by the death of his daughter. Featuring poignant solos for the trumpet and cello as well as passionate tutti climaxes, this work deserves to be ranked alongside Bruckner and Mahler.

Braga Santos: Symphony no. 4: This work is nothing short of a masterpiece. It features gorgeous, memorable tunes that sweep the listener away. The finale, which features a heart-wrenchingly beautiful chorale theme, is one of the most redemptive, uplifting passages in all of classical music.

Casella: Symphony no. 3: Surely one of the most remarkable works to come from Italy and one of the masterpieces of the 20th century. Casella isn't afraid to wear his heart on his sleeve, especially in the slow movement (which can reduce grown men to tears), but nothing is sentimental or overdone. Casella keeps a tight rein on his musical material and every note is meaningful.

Atterberg: Symphony no. 3: Atterberg is able to conjure up sweeping vistas of Nordic seascapes so vividly in this work. The Storm movement is magnificently tempestuous, and the finale will take your breath away in its atmospheric beauty. Surely one of the most remarkable examples of nature painting in music.

Brian: Symphony no. 1 Gothic: This colossal work is nothing short of amazing for a first symphony. Mahler may be an influence on Brian's music, but there's really nothing quite like this symphony out there. From demonic xylophone (!) solos to crashing orchestral and choral outbursts to lyrical writing of great passion (such as the magically hushed ending), this work encompasses so much. It needs to be heard to be believed.

I'll get around to the others at a later point. Hope these elaborations help! :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 11:03:27 AM
Thanks. I'm not familiar with any of Meyer's music and will have to acquaint myself with it soon! Love your Shosty avatar by the way. I better not see Schnittke back up there, though! ;)

You're welcome. It's quite an enjoyable work. I need to acquaint myself with more of Meyer's music as well. (seeks out Dux recordings on Amazon)

Quote from: kyjo on September 12, 2013, 05:36:49 PM
OK, here's my first five:

Schmidt: Symphony no. 4: A deeply tragic work inspired by the death of his daughter. Featuring poignant solos for the trumpet and cello as well as passionate tutti climaxes, this work deserves to be ranked alongside Bruckner and Mahler.

Braga Santos: Symphony no. 4: This work is nothing short of a masterpiece. It features gorgeous, memorable tunes that sweep the listener away. The finale, which features a heart-wrenchingly beautiful chorale theme, is one of the most redemptive, uplifting passages in all of classical music.

Casella: Symphony no. 3: Surely one of the most remarkable works to come from Italy and one of the masterpieces of the 20th century. Casella isn't afraid to wear his heart on his sleeve, especially in the slow movement (which can reduce grown men to tears), but nothing is sentimental or overdone. Casella keeps a tight rein on his musical material and every note is meaningful.

Atterberg: Symphony no. 3: Atterberg is able to conjure up sweeping vistas of Nordic seascapes so vividly in this work. The Storm movement is magnificently tempestuous, and the finale will take your breath away in its atmospheric beauty. Surely one of the most remarkable examples of nature painting in music.

Brian: Symphony no. 1 Gothic: This colossal work is nothing short of amazing for a first symphony. Mahler may be an influence on Brian's music, but there's really nothing quite like this symphony out there. From demonic xylophone (!) solos to crashing orchestral and choral outbursts to lyrical writing of great passion (such as the magically hushed ending), this work encompasses so much. It needs to be heard to be believed.

I'll get around to the others at a later point. Hope these elaborations help! :)

Nice descriptions, Kyle and thanks for taking the time to write about your first list. I think I'll elaborate on my first list as well...

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 12, 2013, 05:50:39 PM
You're welcome. It's quite an enjoyable work. I need to acquaint myself with more of Meyer's music as well. (seeks out Dux recordings on Amazon)

Yeah, I've been eyeing up a few of those orchestral recordings, which are out of print but still manageable to get ahold of:

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I think I'll go resurrect the Meyer thread, and, if there isn't one, start one!

Descriptions/arguments would be welcome, but I wonder if the champions of this thread might also consider providing YT/etc offerings, at least samples if not whole pieces?  Whenever possible. 
I'm thinking of the "21st Century Music" thread.  Those interested enough to hear the piece can always look YT recordings up themselves, but it could be quite useful to have them in one thread as a resource.  I think you guys already provide such links elsewhere with some frequency, but this thread could turn into a variation on the successful 21c or "Only the New" threads.

Quote from: Octave on September 12, 2013, 06:02:08 PM
Descriptions/arguments would be welcome, but I wonder if the champions of this thread might also consider providing YT/etc offerings, at least samples if not whole pieces?  Whenever possible. 
I'm thinking of the "21st Century Music" thread.  Those interested enough to hear the piece can always look YT recordings up themselves, but it could be quite useful to have them in one thread as a resource.  I think you guys already provide such links elsewhere with some frequency, but this thread could turn into a variation on the successful 21c or "Only the New" threads.

Many of the pieces I have listed are easily accessible from YouTube and other resources (Naxos Music Library, Spotify etc.). I'll provide a YT link next to works I've listed if that particular piece is represented there (which I often is). :)

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
Thanks for the Halffter CD rec!

Sonatina is in very much the same neo-classical vein.

His brother Rudolfo was also a composer.

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I think that Moore symphony - hrmm I think what I meant was, it was like a scone, a little sweet and quite pleasant, but having finished it I can't really remember it.

The andante really stuck in my head. 

Let me take a stab at this; and I'll try to limit myself, with one exception, to composers active in the 20th-21th centuries.

Alan Bush: Symphony No. 1 in C Major, Op. 21
H. Villa-Lobos:  Choros.   Any and all of them.
N. Gade: Symphony No. 4 (that's the exception)
E. Meyer: Quintet for two violins, viola, 'cello, and double bass
Penderecki: Sextet

The Bush I have as part of a set from Membran,  "The British Music Collection".
The only recording of the Meyer which I know of is on DG, with Emerson SQ and the composer performing; it's paired with the Emersons playing a quartet by Rorem.
Penderecki I have on a Naxos CD of his (wind oriented) chamber music, but I'm sure there's at least one other recording available.
The Villa Lobos is available as a box set from BIS, and the Gade I have as part of another BIS set.

I would have in fact made an entry for Atterberg's symphonies (another case of any and all of them, as far as I'm concerned) but obviously he's got advocates already on this thread.

ETA:  This being GMG,  Bush is of course a known quantity, with his own thread and all,  starting here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10535.msg261350.html#msg261350

Random thoughts/maybe it will be a list by the time I get to the end of it...

I'm mostly thinking about unsung works more than unsung composers. Partly that's because my music collection is not as wide as many people here.

1. Faure - Piano Quintet No.1: Later Faure is all too easily neglected for the earlier, prettier stuff. And while I absolutely love the earlier works as well (in chamber music, the two piano quartets and the first violin sonata), the later works are just as glorious.  The first piano quintet is on the cusp between 'middle' and 'late' Faure and has a yearning, searching quality that I find mesmerising.

2. Holmboe - Symphony No.5: There had to be a Holmboe work on this list, it was just a question of which one. I'm a big fan of the 8th symphony, which has already been mentioned, but I've gone for this one because it's so readily accessible. If orchestras are scared about presenting 20th century music from less well-known composers to their audiences, then surely they could be comfortable about programming this work and getting a positive reaction.

3. Thomas Linley the Younger - Arise! Ye Spirits of the Storm (from incidental music for 'The Tempest'): Basically the best thing I ever stumbled across on classical radio from a composer I didn't know, so much so that I hunted down the entire CD. 6 minutes of superb choral music that could easily be slipped into a concert program somewhere.

4. Rachmaninov - Variations on a theme by Corelli: Well actually, the theme isn't by Corelli at all. But the point is, Rachmaninov's few late works are masterpieces in my view, and really only the Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini has much popularity.  These solo piano variations on 'La Folia' are superbly dark and powerful.

5. Bach, J.S. - Capriccio on the Departure of the Beloved Brother, BWV 992 Okay, can any Bach be "unsung"? Maybe not, but it still seems to me that this work is nowhere near as well known as the titans of his keyboard output such as the suite collections and the 48 preludes & fugues. I have a recording tucked away on a disc of miscellaneous Bach works, and when I finally listened to the capriccio properly, in its own right, I was struck by how delightful it was.

Quote from: sanantonio on September 12, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Happy to see Krzysztof Meyer getting some plugs - but it is his string quartets which appeal to me the most.  His SQ (and Weinberg's SQ) are some which join Carter, Shostokovich and Bartok, IMO, of as the ones from the 20C I come back to again and again.

https://www.youtube.com/v/KYqg9RYrAtI

I do need to get those Meyer SQs.....but I would amend your short list to add Ligeti and Villa Lobos.

Quote from: sanantonio on September 12, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Happy to see Krzysztof Meyer getting some plugs - but it is his string quartets which appeal to me the most.  His SQ (and Weinberg's SQ) are some which join Carter, Shostokovich and Bartok, IMO, of as the ones from the 20C I come back to again and again.

What's Meyer's style like, sanantonio?

Quote from: orfeo on September 12, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
2. Holmboe - Symphony No.5: There had to be a Holmboe work on this list, it was just a question of which one. I'm a big fan of the 8th symphony, which has already been mentioned, but I've gone for this one because it's so readily accessible. If orchestras are scared about presenting 20th century music from less well-known composers to their audiences, then surely they could be comfortable about programming this work and getting a positive reaction.

Kudos for mentioning this work! I agree with everything in your post. :) Holmboe's music would appeal to a wide audience IMO and doesn't deserve the neglect it has gotten in the concert hall.

Writing in explanations for my choices (and narrowing them down to just five!)

1. Martinu - Oboe Concerto
My favorite oboe concerto. It's Martinu at his perkiest, loveliest, and easiest to program, and the craftsmanship is flawless.

2. Jean Cras - String Trio and/or Quintet for harp, flute, and strings
If you like the chamber music of Debussy, Ravel, Roussel, or Faure, you should try Jean Cras. His work in general is very good, and there are a couple lovely pieces for solo harp, but the most memorable of all might be the String Trio, with its overt homages to North African music Cras heard on his voyages.

3. Weinberg - Cello Concerto
My advocacy of this work on this forum is so old and predictable, I'm like a broken record. It's in my personal top-five cello concertos ever and it ought to be in every cellist's repertoire. Concert halls would go nuts. The tunes are huge, the emotions are huge, the writing is tremendous, the opening is insta-grip. I will never stop saying this.

4. Kalliwoda - Symphony No. 5
I've been known to describe Kalliwoda's Fifth as, "if Schubert's Tragic symphony really WAS tragic." The CPO recording makes it sound especially ferocious.

5. J.S. Bach - the cello suites played on viola
Recent superb discs by Antoine Tamestit and Maxim Rysanov have me wondering if maybe, just maybe, I prefer the "viola suites" as my main way of hearing these works.

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I'm gonna listen to some more of folks' choices tomorrow. Jeffrey, Penderecki's Sextet is also available on a terrific new(ish) disc from the Ensemble Kheops featuring another unsung sextet for identical instrumentation - Erno Dohnanyi's. The works are arguably temperamental opposites, which makes the pairing even more inspired. Love both pieces.

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 07:00:22 PM

1. Martinu - Oboe Concerto
My favorite oboe concerto. It's Martinu at his perkiest, loveliest, and easiest to program, and the craftsmanship is flawless.

+1 Love this work so much, but I've been known to go on and on about Martinu. ;) :D

first list, not in any particular order and containing some "sung"
LEKEU: Adagio for Strings
VAUGHAN WILLIAMS: Towards the Unknown Regions
Jody TALBOT: Path of Miracles - 'Roncesvalles', 'Burgos', 'Leon' and 'Santiago', the movements of Path of Miracles, are named after four points on the Camino Frances, one of the principal pilgrims' routes to Santiago de Compostela. The vivid libretto was compiled by poet Robert Dickinson from medieval texts (including the Carmina Burana), the Psalms and his own original reflections. Those words, and a visit to the main sites along the route, evidently inspired Talbot
HINDEMITH:  Krämerspiegel  op. 66    a song set written unwillingly to complete a contract with the publishers Bote & Bock  A DGG recording refused to print the text of one of the songs, declaring it "unmöglich"  (not nice).   The humour is a bit more sophisticated than in the Mini-Max for string quartet which could serve as an alternate entry.
RIISAGER Qarrtsiluni   

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
4. Kalliwoda - Symphony No. 5

I've ripped Symphony No. 1 from a Turnabout Lp if anyone is interested, though I'm not sure how to share it easily.  I really like the work and the performance.

Back cover notes here:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/7093222335_7636fafc75_h.jpg

First a "heavy" orchestral list:

1 Carl Ruggles: Sun treader
2 Edgard Varèse: Arcana
3 Willem Pijper: symphony nr. 2
4 Mathijs Vermeulen: Thrène et paean, symphony nr 3
5 Boleslaw Szabelski (1896-1979): symphony nr. 5 (orchestra, vocalising chorus and organ)

A "light"(er) list:

1 Frank Martin: Petite symphonie concertante
2 Albert Roussel: Evocations
3 Henri Dutilleux: pianosonata
4 Bohuslav Martinu: Incantace - pianoconcerto nr 4
5 G.F.Händel : Acis and Galathea ( but I should make a Barock/Renaissance list aswell...)

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 12, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
H. Villa-Lobos:  Choros.   Any and all of them.
The Villa Lobos is available as a box set from BIS.

I was just going to post five of these before I saw your post, Jeffrey.  8)




List No. 2:

1. Martinu: Nonet No. 2
Czech folk meets Classicism, one of my very favourites from Martinu. The jolly mood is extraordinary, considering that Martinu was dying of cancer while writing this.
http://www.youtube.com/v/7nBhO0ll_vI


2. Suk: Things Lived and Dreamed
Another solo piano work from Suk after the deaths of his father-in-law Dvorak and wife, much more dissonant and angry, though.
(See other movements at Youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/v/nvlFm79u_sQ


3. Janacek: Violin Concerto
This piece really doesn't get enough attention, even if it is really only based on fragments linked to From the House of the Dead. Echt Janacek at his orchestral best.
http://www.youtube.com/v/9S-tz2jR05c


4. Tchaikovsky: Piano Trio
I don't know exactly how well known this piece actually is, but I haven't seen many people at GMG mention it. There's also an excellent contribution from Taneyev in the vatiations. :)
http://www.youtube.com/v/pcfSFH6y110


5. Busoni: Elegies
Seems appropriate what with the Hamelin release coming in November. Approaching atonality, Greensleeves, a choral prelude (that one is also the beginning of Fantasia Contrappuntistica, another marvelous piece)
http://www.youtube.com/v/viP7Qca1bLo

Quote from: North Star on September 13, 2013, 01:20:20 AM
4. Tchaikovsky: Piano Trio
I don't know exactly how well known this piece actually is

Archivmusic lists 63 recordings (unless you meant Boris Tchaikovsky; his sunny trio sounds a bit like Martinu.  See sample on youtube).   

I adore the P. Tchaikovsky work.

Quote from: Daverz on September 13, 2013, 08:13:36 AM
Archivmusic lists 63 recordings (unless you meant Boris Tchaikovsky; his sunny trio sounds a bit like Martinu.  See sample on youtube).   

I adore the P. Tchaikovsky work.

Yes, plenty of recordings of it, so I suppose must people have heard it.
That Boris Tchaikovsky trio doesn't sound bad at all, either, though!
http://www.youtube.com//v/iw3wAJPqRh0

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 07:00:22 PM1. Martinu - Oboe Concerto
My favorite oboe concerto. It's Martinu at his perkiest, loveliest, and easiest to program, and the craftsmanship is flawless.

That's the rare Martinu work that seems to have flown under my radar.  Hard to keep track sometimes.

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Writing in explanations for my choices (and narrowing them down to just five!)

1. Martinu - Oboe Concerto
My favorite oboe concerto. It's Martinu at his perkiest, loveliest, and easiest to program, and the craftsmanship is flawless.

+1, a great piece!

Quote from: sanantonio on September 12, 2013, 07:09:18 PM
I thought you were familiar with his music since you recommended his orchestral works.  Also, if you want an idea of his style, you could listen to the Youtube clips I posted.  I prefer letting the music speak for itself and do not much enjoy trying to describe it with words.

;)

I couldn't find #8 when I posted earlier, which is my favorite, but here's a couple of clips from it, to add to the ones for the 5th.

https://www.youtube.com/v/DiqAosNCQuk

https://www.youtube.com/v/oYnVTLdRExM

Thanks, sanantonio. :) Actually, I haven't heard a note of Meyer's music. The discs I pictured in my post were recordings I was considering purchasing.

Quote from: Daverz on September 12, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
I've ripped Symphony No. 1 from a Turnabout Lp if anyone is interested, though I'm not sure how to share it easily.  I really like the work and the performance.

Back cover notes here:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/7093222335_7636fafc75_h.jpg

!!!! If you find a way let us know.

I've used Mediafire and Dropbox in the past to share files here.

The Kalivoda Symphony no. 1 is available on YouTube for anyone interested. It's a fine work.

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 12, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
Let me take a stab at this; and I'll try to limit myself, with one exception, to composers active in the 20th-21th centuries.

Alan Bush: Symphony No. 1 in C Major, Op. 21
H. Villa-Lobos:  Choros.   Any and all of them.
N. Gade: Symphony No. 4 (that's the exception)
E. Meyer: Quintet for two violins, viola, 'cello, and double bass
Penderecki: Sextet

The Bush I have as part of a set from Membran,  "The British Music Collection".
The only recording of the Meyer which I know of is on DG, with Emerson SQ and the composer performing; it's paired with the Emersons playing a quartet by Rorem.
Penderecki I have on a Naxos CD of his (wind oriented) chamber music, but I'm sure there's at least one other recording available.
The Villa Lobos is available as a box set from BIS, and the Gade I have as part of another BIS set.

I would have in fact made an entry for Atterberg's symphonies (another case of any and all of them, as far as I'm concerned) but obviously he's got advocates already on this thread.

ETA:  This being GMG,  Bush is of course a known quantity, with his own thread and all,  starting here:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10535.msg261350.html#msg261350

The Bush Symphony no. 1 is a fine work and I'm even more impressed with nos. 2 and 3. Let's hope no. 4 (and the massive PC) get recorded soon!
Pleased to hear you're an Atterberg fan as well. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 13, 2013, 11:15:51 AM
The Bush Symphony no. 1 is a fine work and I'm even more impressed with nos. 2 and 3. Let's hope no. 4 (and the massive PC) get recorded soon!
Pleased to hear you're an Atterberg fan as well. :)

Symphony No. 2 stuck me as much more pastoral and in the RVW tradition; it was the First Symphony that truly impressed me.  Never heard the Third Symphony.  Any recording(s) or other works you can suggest.

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on September 13, 2013, 11:21:38 AM
Symphony No. 2 stuck me as much more pastoral and in the RVW tradition; it was the First Symphony that truly impressed me.  Never heard the Third Symphony.  Any recording(s) or other works you can suggest.

Jeffrey, Bush's Symphony no. 3 (inspired by the cave paintings at Lascaux), along with two shorter works, is available on this excellent Dutton CD:

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I'll toss in a few. Many will be familiar to readers here I expect, still...
Schmidt Symphony 4. I second the vote above for this. When I was in radio I played this regularly.
Texeira Te Deum -- big glorious baroque.
Ravenscroft - part songs especially Yonder Comes a Courteous Knight. The PCA performance of YCACK is the best performance of anything I have ever heard.
Richafort - Requiem. Josquin level.
Virgil Thomson - 4 Saints in 3 Acts. I love this beyond telling. So sue me.

I forgot the contemporary Graeme Koehne. Any of his orchestral pieces, such as "Inflight Entertainment". Really great recording on Naxos, worth (and here I blaspheme) paying full price.

I am listening to Braga Santos 4 and it's excellent.

Quote from: Brian on September 12, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
Thanks for the Halffter CD rec!

The Halffter brothers had a younger cousin, Cristobal Halffter, who is a composer of the more avant-garde persuasion.  I want to highlight piece of his which is atypical of his style in that it is being mostly neoclassical. It is a recomposition of a Cabezon battle piece probably originally for organ. It does not really blossom until the second half. but it is only 10 minutes here on YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKyKWUMYJ9c

BTW thanks for the rec on Cras!

Elaborations on my second list:

Kabelac: The Mystery of Time: There a sinister, inevitable quality to this work as it keeps building intensity to a shattering climax. The ending, with its poignant violin solo, is exquisitely haunting. http://youtu.be/5kxcD0mU9jo

Enescu: Symphony no. 3: An epic, mesmerizing work moving from a dark, tragic opening movement to a radiant finale. The voluptuous harmonies and thick textures recall Scriabin at times, but this is a deeply personal work all the same. http://youtu.be/liJvZZs41RQ

Diamond: Symphony no. 2: A deeply felt wartime symphony. Swelling string lines, majestic brass and stamping percussion give this work an echt-American feel. http://youtu.be/Z3AudRE8ghY

Rubbra: Symphony no. 7: It was difficult to single one Rubbra symphony out from the cycle, as they are all almost equally fine, but I chose the Seventh. It is one of Rubbra's most colorful scores, especially the delightfully unbuttoned, magical scherzo movement. The two longer movements flanking it are marvelous, noble utterances with an air of resignation and sadness that is very moving. http://youtu.be/NWa3qPmyYnI

Miaskovsky: Symphony no. 27: A perfectly fitting swansong, this symphony breathes the last breaths of the romantic tradition and there is a resigned, autumnal air to it. However, the finale is a festive, joyous creation in the spirit of the respective movements of Tchaik 5 and Rach 2 that provides an excellent contrast to the nature of the other movements. http://youtu.be/YpUqJUmans4

I don't know if these have been mentioned yet, but if so they deserve a second mention :) :

Fanny Mendelssohn-Henselt: Piano Trio Opus 11.  As fine as anything her brother Felix ever wrote.

Henri Vieuxtemps: Violin Concerto #4.  Far from a mere showpiece, it's a big, serious concerto.

Holst: The Hymn of Jesus.  A lovely piece for antiphonal choirs and orchestra.

Robert Suderberg: Concerto "within the mirror of time".  A big, neo-Romantic, very fun piece.

Michael Daugherty: UFO Concerto, written for the inimitable Evelyn Glennie.

Quote from: jochanaan on September 13, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
I don't know if these have been mentioned yet, but if so they deserve a second mention :) :

[snip]

Holst: The Hymn of Jesus.  A lovely piece for antiphonal choirs and orchestra.

(* pounds the table *)

Quote from: jochanaan on September 13, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
Robert Suderberg: Concerto "within the mirror of time".  A big, neo-Romantic, very fun piece.

Where have you heard this work? It sounds like it would be right up my alley! :)

Quote from: jochanaan on September 13, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
Holst: The Hymn of Jesus.  A lovely piece for antiphonal choirs and orchestra.

I saw that a new version from Elder/Halle was coming out this month. Could be interesting...

Quote from: kyjo on September 14, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
Where have you heard this work? It sounds like it would be right up my alley! :)

It was on an LP with Bela Siki, Milton Katims and the Seattle Symphony, the world premiere recording issued 1974.  I have no idea whether it's been reissued on CD or can be downloaded.  I couldn't find it on Youtube just now...

Elaborations on my third list:

Novak: De profundis: A dark work with a sense of grim defiance. It includes an important role for the organ, which adds much textural depth to the proceedings. http://youtu.be/xGsuZ2T0Xfw

Melartin: Symphony no. 4: Subtitled A Summer Symphony, this work reflects the unbridled joy of a Nordic summer. The slow movement, featuring three wordless sopranos (shades of Nielsen's Espansiva) is breathtakingly gorgeous. Only Melartin could have created a work like this, so full of zest for life. http://youtu.be/lDb2UKqwXJA

Holmboe: Four Symphonic Metamorphoses. The unrelentingly dark, cavernous mood of these masterworks is never depressing or predictable a la (some) Pettersson; Holmboe is an amazing orchestrator and he uses his talent to create ear-catching contrasts and shadings. An Amazon reviewer describes these works as "subterranean"; I couldn't think of a better adjective to use! (strangely, no YT upload of this work)

Arthur Benjamin: Symphony. I've always found it a shame that Benjamin composed only one symphony, because this is truly a masterwork of the form. Written during the dark days of WWII, this highly emotional work has an epic, gripping quality that brings to mind RVW 4 and 6 and Shostakovich with some Baxian overtones. In this work, I'm often reminded of a stormy British seascape, complete with sheer cliffs and jagged rocks. http://youtu.be/2-Sx9xjMsHU

Joseph Marx: Romantische Klavierkonzerte: This is one of those pieces where the best listening strategy is just to sit back and let the overwhelming lushness of sound wash over you. Think of a kaleidoscopic, high-cholesterol mixture between Rachmaninov, Scriabin and Delius and you'll have a slight idea what to expect here. Exciting, over-the-top luscious stuff! http://youtu.be/TXP6CEWfVQc

Quote from: jochanaan on September 14, 2013, 05:49:58 PM
It was on an LP with Bela Siki, Milton Katims and the Seattle Symphony, the world premiere recording issued 1974.  I have no idea whether it's been reissued on CD or can be downloaded.  I couldn't find it on Youtube just now...

Hmmmmm......It doesn't appear to have been reissued on CD, nor can I find it on YT or anywhere else. :(

The SUDERBERG was on an LP   Odyssey   34 140 (Katims, Seattle)  backed with the SCHUMAN 8th Symphony (Bernstein, NYPhil)

Quote from: listener on September 14, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
The SUDERBERG was on an LP   Odyssey   34 140 (Katims, Seattle)  backed with the SCHUMAN 8th Symphony (Bernstein, NYPhil)

Yes, I noticed that, but I don't collect LPs. :(

Quote from: listener on September 14, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
The SUDERBERG was on an LP   Odyssey   34 140 (Katims, Seattle)  backed with the SCHUMAN 8th Symphony (Bernstein, NYPhil)

Yep, that's the one.  :D And I love the William Schuman symphony too.

(http://stores.winnipegrecordandtape.com/media/14/a6473b713921e354572348_m.JPG)

Voilà!

5 vocal works :

Gordon Crosse: Changes - available on Lyrita

Peter Dickinson wrote: "In 1966 Crosse conquered the Three Choirs Festival with Changes: a Nocturnal Cycle [Argo LP ZRG 656]. This fastidiously chosen anthology of poems was the basis for a 50-minute choral work extending the Britten tradition in a personal way. Apart from its richly imaginative orchestral textures it shows Crosse as a melodist too. Its neglect by our choral societies is simply incomprehensible." Well, while I might agree wholeheartedly with Dickinson's sentiment, I can to a certain extent understand why such a demanding work would be a reluctant choice for choral societies. This is one of those pieces which requires strength at all levels, and would always require a considerable investment of time and resources to be given full justice.

Full justice is what it receives on this recording however, and Lyrita has done everyone a large favour by making it available once more. Crosse's strengths in orchestration are immediately apparent, and in his own note to the work he acknowledges that it is 'concerned with variety and contrast', an aspect which is given greatest pungence through the use of the orchestra, which includes a large percussion section and the full works from the other sections. Crosse also admits having to 'work hard for unity' in a piece with many short sections, but in the final reckoning this never seems to arise as a problem – in any case, I never had the impression of a composer trying hard, or becoming aware of procedural workings-out. In his own summing up, Crosse in essence shows what our approach to the work should be: '...with the aim of communicating enjoyment I tried to enjoy myself. I... concentrated on opening my ears and mind to simple ideas.'

These 'simple ideas' do sometimes have the ring of Britten about them. Take the children's chorus Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, which in which the cadences and melodic shapes of the elder master are unmistakeable. There are occasional tinges of Tippett in the orchestral filigrees which pop through now and again early on, maybe a whiff of Shostakovich in the choir in the Bellman's Song, that kind of thing: but in essence this is very much a personal odyssey, and in any case such associations are always a response based on personal experience. This is in no way a shopping list of references and influences, and I have certainly come through the listening sessions invigorated and resolved to 'swim in wine, and turn upon the toe...' rather than dwell upon 'The pear doth rot, the plum doth fall, The snow dissolves, and so must all.'

As for the performances, I can single out Jennifer Vyvyan for sheer gorgeousness with those high notes in the Nurse's Song and beauty of restraint in The Door of Death, and it certainly sounds as if the LSO are playing out of their skins. There is an intense English straightness about some of the diction, and I can imagine the delivery of such lines as 'Hey nonny no!' being done a little less in the old BBC received pronunciation these days. That this kind of thing stands out at all only emphasises the international drama and strength of the music as it stands. English it is of course, but, far from advocating some kind of streetwise interpretation; the weight of the music still takes us to places far beyond well modulated tones and Mr. Cholmondeley-Warner. For choral societies looking for an alternative to A Child of Our Time or Noye's Fludde I would say – go for it! Dominy Clements / Musicweb

Bohuslav Martinu: his early, 1918 patriotic cantata Czech rhapsody . Martinu in full, late Romantic swing ! His use of the Hymn "Saint Wenceslas" in the closing bars is quite overwhelming.

Hilding Rosenberg: Symphony nr 4 "The revelation of Saint John" is another grandly expressive work. The a capella choral sections are breathtakingly beautiful.

Jehan Alain: Messe modale en septuor for 2 voices, flute & string quartet (or organ). In strong contrast with the Crosse, Martinu and Rosenberg works. A simple Mass (1938), but the flute adds a poignant and poetic touch that doesn't fail to move me.

Possibly : Bartok's Cantata profana, Britten's Cantata academica and Cantata misericordium ....

Etc.

P.

Oh, i have that suderberg lp around here somewhere.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone been inspired to listen to any of the pieces I listed? If so, what are your impressions? I'd be most interested to hear them, whether they be positive or (respectfully) negative. :)

Medtner - Piano Concerto 1
Medtner - Piano Concerto 2
Medtner - Piano Concerto 3
These are not performed nearly enough in concert.

Meyer - Symphony No.5
Should be part of your musical education.

Fanny Hensel-Mendelssohn - lieder
All of them, because they are amongst the best ever.

Quote from: Ten thumbs on September 16, 2013, 01:41:14 PM
Medtner - Piano Concerto 1
Medtner - Piano Concerto 2
Medtner - Piano Concerto 3
These are not performed nearly enough in concert.

Agree with you about the Medtner PCs; they're wonderful works. :) As I said in another thread, they are rather like a more introverted Rachmaninov.

Quote from: kyjo on September 15, 2013, 01:58:45 PM
Just out of curiosity, has anyone been inspired to listen to any of the pieces I listed? If so, what are your impressions? I'd be most interested to hear them, whether they be positive or (respectfully) negative. :)

No one has followed any of my suggestions?! ??? :(

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
No one has followed any of my suggestions?! ??? :(

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Don't take it personally but sometimes serial posters find themselves there. Ask MI.

Quote from: Johnll on September 16, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
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Don't take it personally but sometimes serial posters find themselves there. Ask MI.

Oh, I'm not taking it personally. :) I just don't feel like putting the effort into elaborating on the rest of my lists if no one is taking interest in the music I am trying to promote. :-\

Quote from: kyjo on September 15, 2013, 01:58:45 PM
Just out of curiosity, has anyone been inspired to listen to any of the pieces I listed?

Not me.  Too many lists - diminishing returns set in.

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 05:23:13 PM
Not me.  Too many lists - diminishing returns set in.

Did you even read the elaborations on my lists that I was requested to write? Have an adventurer's spirit, for goodness sakes!

P.S. At least try listening to the pieces on my initial list. They're the ones I feel most strongly about.

People need to get out of their comfort zones and realize there's more to classical music than the acknowledged "greats". What can you possibly lose if you just go on YouTube to sample a work (and then, hopefully, buy the CD afterwards)? I mean can't you guys just take a little time out of your "busy" (note the quotation marks) schedules?

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
No one has followed any of my suggestions?! ??? :(

Let me reinforce several of them, e.g. Jehan Alain, Enescu, Medtner. 

Also keep in mind the time and money involved in following the suggestions, if one's local library has none of the CD's.

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
Oh, I'm not taking it personally. :) I just don't feel like putting the effort into elaborating on the rest of my lists if no one is taking interest in the music I am trying to promote. :-\

Ok so you are not taking it personally.But you have to realize no one gives a hoot about the music you are trying to promote EXCEPT as it may appeal to them. The same goes for me. I offered a piece which no one chose to comment on. So what? Look at it this way there must be something wrong GMC guys/gals that do not agree with me. Problem solved!

Quote from: Cato on September 16, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
Let me reinforce several of them, e.g. Jehan Alain, Enescu, Medtner. 

Also keep in mind the time and money involved in following the suggestions, if one's local library has none of the CD's.

Do you guys have something against YouTube or what? It's free, for crying out loud, and the sound quality isn't as terrible as some make it out to be. The only thing that will cost you with YT is time!

P.S. By the Enescu, do you mean Symphony no. 3, Cato? I hope so!

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:34:37 PM
People need to get out of their comfort zones and realize there's more to classical music than the acknowledged "greats". What can you possibly lose if you just go on YouTube to sample a work (and then, hopefully, buy the CD afterwards)? I mean can't you guys just take a little time out of your "busy" (note the quotation marks) schedules?

You seem quite full of yourself.  I don't need you, your multiple lists or your elaborations to appreciate works that don't possess the "great" consensus.

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
You seem quite full of yourself.  I don't need you, your multiple lists or your elaborations to appreciate works that don't possess the "great" consensus.

Well I don't need your constant negativity. ::)

Look, guys, I'm not trying to be a pompous jerk (although I may come across as being one); I'm just trying to figure out what's keeping you from investigating "unsung" music. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
Oh, I'm not taking it personally. :) I just don't feel like putting the effort into elaborating on the rest of my lists if no one is taking interest in the music I am trying to promote. :-\

I don't understand your way of thinking about this.  If I put forward a list or elaboration on works/composers I love, I'm not looking for anyone else to take interest nor am I trying to promote said works or composers.  They're my choices and what other folks do or think about them means nothing.

You must be a much more "social" person than I am (it takes very little to be more social than the Bulldog).

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Look, guys, I'm not trying to be a pompous jerk (although I may come across as being one); I'm just trying to figure out what's keeping you from investigating "unsung" music. :)

Why do you assume that folks who aren't responding to your list items don't investigate "unsung" music? 

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 05:55:20 PM
I don't understand your way of thinking about this.  If I put forward a list or elaboration on works/composers I love, I'm not looking for anyone else to take interest nor am I trying to promote said works or composers.  They're my choices and what other folks do or think about them means nothing.

You must be a much more "social" person than I am (it takes very little to be more social than the Bulldog).

Yes, I'm a tough one to figure out! :D You're absolutely right that one's own opinion is more important than those of others. I'm just trying to encourage others to just give the music a try. That's all. Exposure is key!

I wouldn't really consider myself a social person. It all depends on the situation. I enjoy a good balance between quietness and outgoingness in my life. A lot of my outgoingness is channeled in GMG, where I am able to express my love for what connects us all here, music. :)

Quote from: Sammy on September 16, 2013, 06:01:03 PM
Why do you assume that folks who aren't responding to your list items don't investigate "unsung" music?

I'm not assuming anything. I just wish those that have investigated the music would report back with their thoughts. I know many folks here are familiar with unfamiliar repertoire, which is great. I see you're an admirer of Miaskovsky, who I would definitely place in the "unsung" category. He's one of my favorites! :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
Yes, I'm a tough one to figure out! :D You're absolutely right that one's own opinion is more important than those of others. I'm just trying to encourage others to just give the music a try. That's all. Exposure is key!

I'm not into exposure.  I am here to relate a few aspects of my musical personality/preferences and receive info. and insight (that's where Premont is tops in my book).

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
I'm not assuming anything. I just wish those that have investigated the music would report back with their thoughts.

There could be many members who will investigate the works on your lists.  However, they might be rather busy these days with a backlog of discs to get to, important work projects and heavy family responsibilities.  Perhaps someone just received two boxes of Wagner's "Ring" and is dedicated to digging into both sets before hitting your lists.  The possibilities are endless.

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 06:04:15 PM
I'm not assuming anything. I just wish those that have investigated the music would report back with their thoughts. I know many folks here are familiar with unfamiliar repertoire, which is great. I see you're an admirer of Miaskovsky, who I would definitely place in the "unsung" category. He's one of my favorites! :)

I am a GMC lurker. Miaskovsky, and heaven forbid, even more unsung names are not unsung on the board if you avail the achieves. Nevertheless all contributions have value in the context of the foregoing which the mouse at your hand can devour

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
Do you guys have something against YouTube or what? It's free, for crying out loud, and the sound quality isn't as terrible as some make it out to be. The only thing that will cost you with YT is time!

P.S. By the Enescu, do you mean Symphony no. 3, Cato? I hope so!

YouTube can be an alternative, depending on the computer's sound system.  Not everyone has a computer with good sound, but they probably do have a decent stereo system.  (I would be the example here!   :laugh:  )

"Yes" to all 3 of the Enescu symphonies!

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:34:37 PM
People need to get out of their comfort zones and realize there's more to classical music than the acknowledged "greats". What can you possibly lose if you just go on YouTube to sample a work (and then, hopefully, buy the CD afterwards)? I mean can't you guys just take a little time out of your "busy" (note the quotation marks) schedules?

I'm all for exploring unknown repertoire as you know, but I also have to respect that not everybody has my exploratory attitude. Don't take it personally if nobody wants to check out composers you admire. If someone here asks for advice on a composer that I happen to enjoy, then I usually jump right in with a recommendation, but if they're discussing a composer I care nothing about, then I don't have any business commenting, because I have nothing substantial to add. We're all busy with our own interests and I think you may be expecting a bit too much out of the members here. If somebody wants to explore a composer's work on one of your lists, great, if not, then it shouldn't matter. Don't take people here not being 'interested' in any of the composers on your lists so personally.

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 16, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
I'm all for exploring unknown repertoire as you know, but I also have to respect that not everybody has my exploratory attitude. Don't take it personally if nobody wants to check out composers you admire. If someone here asks for advice on a composer that I happen to enjoy, then I usually jump right in with a recommendation, but if they're discussing a composer I care nothing about, then I don't have any business commenting, because I have nothing substantial to add. We're all busy with our own interests and I think you may be expecting a bit too much out of the members here. If somebody wants to explore a composer's work on one of your lists, great, if not, then it shouldn't matter. Don't take people here not being 'interested' in any of the composers on your lists so personally.

That's so cool!!

Quote from: Johnll on September 16, 2013, 07:48:12 PM
That's so cool!!

I try. 8)

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 16, 2013, 07:49:54 PM
I try. 8)

I am impressed also.

Quote from: Johnll on September 16, 2013, 08:10:23 PM

I am impressed also.

Why?

Kyjo - I look at these lists a bit differently. They are more of a reference for me now that i can come back to at any time - it could be a week, a month or 5 years, but your post will still be there.

At the moment, and I speak only for myself, I rarely start listening to music that is new to me right away. I usually let it percolate a bit. At some point, I will see the composer or piece mentioned a bit and I will remember that I saw it before. Or, I will get into a mood where I want to hear something new (I must be in the mood). For me, especially with more dissonant and modern music, I prefer those pieces in the afternoon (at the begnnning and end of the day - I want something a bit more calm/relaxing), so that may limit me as well.

Let me share something with you - I don't really get a huge response to what I listen to here. I don't take it personally. There are a lot of potential reasons for it. But that is not why I post here. I post here in order to share a passion. Maybe only a few people will take up my recommendations (and they may never post about it), but I much prefer to receive them than to give them. So I have not checked out any of your suggestions so far (though I know several of them), but rest assured they are on a list and many of them will probably be heard over the course of the next several week/months/years. Let me give you an examlple - Meij was posted on GMG some months ago. Within the past month or so, it was reposted again, and now being a bit more familiar with him, I went over to youtube and was totally enthralled by his symphony. The difference is, I have no idea where that was origally posted, but with this thread, I will have a good starting point.

Good post mc!

For me, since I am in China, when I see something recommended here that interests me, I'd make an order shipping to a friend's house in California. I will pick them up in October every year when I go to the US for a conference.

So, every October I'd have anywhere between 100 to 200 CDs to pick up. It will take me a while to listen to them all but I surely will listen to about 1/3 of them while driving around the Wild West!

From time to time, I'm asked to play a short piano piece and the preference I'm given is to play something that everyone will know. This is perhaps illustrative of the situation regarding classical music as a whole. These pieces are known because they are broadcast again and again on the popular classical channels. However, there is no objective reason why they should be. There are large numbers of 'unsung' pieces that are equally memorable and just as good technically. All that distinguishes those that are accepted is an accident of birth.

Quote from: springrite on September 17, 2013, 01:14:15 AM
For me, since I am in China, when I see something recommended here that interests me, I'd make an order shipping to a friend's house in California. I will pick them up in October every year when I go to the US for a conference.

So, every October I'd have anywhere between 100 to 200 CDs to pick up. It will take me a while to listen to them all but I surely will listen to about 1/3 of them while driving around the Wild West!

And it may just be getting wilder!

Finnish Special!

Klami: Kalevala Suite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnSvW2H0Wxk) Try if you like Stravinsky's early ballets or Sibelius.
Englund: Symphony No. 2 'The Blackbird' - Try if you like Shostakovich or Prokofiev.
Raitio: The Swans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiDT2jQLsIY) Wonderfully lush orchestration, influenced by Scriabin & Impressionism
Salonen: Piano Concerto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ghqaiMEM1qM#t=1643) Not too thorny, with some jazzy elements
Aho: Clarinet Concerto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yxTgH0htE) Aho was influenced most of all by Shostakovich, and I suppose there are traces of the 'Soviet soundworld' in his music.

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 03:21:45 PM
No one has followed any of my suggestions?! ??? :(

No, but your suggestions live in us and will give some fruits some day. But first we must listen to thousends of records we have planned to listen.

The Parable of the Seed . . . .

Quote from: North Star on September 17, 2013, 04:51:19 AM
Aho: Clarinet Concerto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yxTgH0htE) Aho was influenced most of all by Shostakovich, and I suppose there are traces of the 'Soviet soundworld' in his music.

I would say that Rautavaara also had an effect on Aho. After all, this was his teacher. :)

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 17, 2013, 09:03:28 AM
I would say that Rautavaara also had an effect on Aho. After all, this was his teacher. :)

Oh yes, certainly.

Quote from: North Star on September 17, 2013, 04:51:19 AM
Finnish Special!

Klami: Kalevala Suite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnSvW2H0Wxk) Try if you like Stravinsky's early ballets or Sibelius.
Englund: Symphony No. 2 'The Blackbird' - Try if you like Shostakovich or Prokofiev.
Raitio: The Swans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiDT2jQLsIY) Wonderfully lush orchestration, influenced by Scriabin & Impressionism
Salonen: Piano Concerto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ghqaiMEM1qM#t=1643) Not too thorny, with some jazzy elements
Aho: Clarinet Concerto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yxTgH0htE) Aho was influenced most of all by Shostakovich, and I suppose there are traces of the 'Soviet soundworld' in his music.

I love all of those works! Thanks for posting your thoughts on the Englund in the thread dedicated to him. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 17, 2013, 10:45:11 AM
I love all of those works! Thanks for posting your thoughts on the Englund in the thread dedicated to him. :)

oh oh oh  yes

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Look, guys, I'm not trying to be a pompous jerk (although I may come across as being one); I'm just trying to figure out what's keeping you from investigating "unsung" music. :)

Ahem.

My list of music to investigate is quite extensive. Composers (and popular music acts) tend to marinate on the list for several years before I get serious about investigating them. That's usually after seeing multiple references and having my interest pricked multiple times.

It can also take several attempts before deciding that yes, I would like to add that composer/act to my collection.

Sure, I can click on a few youtube links. But I won't be paying attention that closely. It will be background music, in one ear and out the other. I find youtube inherently bad for actually listening to music, as opposed to watching videos.

You're not coming across as a pompous jerk for wanting people to investigate the music you recommend. You ARE, however, coming across as a pompous jerk for wanting them to do it on your timetable and come back here within a short timeframe to give you the satisfaction of telling you how wonderful your recommendation was.  Is it about the music, or is it about stroking your ego?

And if you search the archives you will see plenty of recommendations for works you mention. I spoke highly of Englund 3 years ago for example and don't need to relisten now nor repeat what I've already said...and my listening and purchasing queues are full. Notwithstanding that some of your recommendations will turn up in my piles on some future date.

I'm going to bow out of this thread for now. Some members are being way too damn sensitive and argumentative and have no idea what the actual intention of this thread is. You guys can b*tch all you want about how much of a jerk I am for only encouraging people to try new music, but I'm not going to get into any more arguments with the smartasses here. The end.

(All of this is just my personal opinion, of course, but here goes.)

Next time you start a thread, then, you should say up front what you want from it and not expect people to be mind readers. You didn't say anything at the start about expecting people to listen to the items that were posted. You only said that later.

As for people being sensitive or argumentative... tone is notoriously hard to read on the internet, but the only person who is coming across as getting worked up and upset over this is yourself.  Similarly, the only person I can see setting out to criticise other people for their contributions is you, and when some of us have responded back you can't handle it.

We're not here for you to hand out pats on the head when we do the right thing and scoldings when we don't, but reading back over the thread there is an awful lot of your commentary that is one or the other.

I moderate another message board. Starting a thread on a message board doesn't give you control over the future content or the posters. But I come across quite a few people who think that it does. Right now you're looking very much like one of them.

Quote from: karlhenning on September 08, 2013, 10:10:00 AM
Luke Ottevanger, Canticle Sonata
Ivan Moody, Passione popolare
Charles Turner, Little Goblin Music
Mark Gresham, Mortal Coils
Chris Forbes, O Oriens

I repeat, though maybe I should think about posting a fresh pentad . . . .

Quote from: karlhenning on September 18, 2013, 03:59:59 AM
I repeat, though maybe I should think about posting a fresh pentad . . . .

Are there recordings of the Ottevanger, Turner & Forbes pieces somewhere?

We recorded the première of the Forbes antiphon;  I must find it and make it available to you.

The Ottevanger wants a performance, it is true.

The Turner goblin-music is on Soundcloud, e.g. (http://soundcloud.com/hand2ear/iii-clockwork-goblins)

Quote from: sanantonio on September 18, 2013, 04:36:19 AM
Re: second bolded phrase: For new music you should try some from the 21st century thread.  There's plenty of unsung works there.  Have you listened to any new music?

+1
SanAntonio is doing some phenomenal posting on that thread. I may only be familiar with a small percentage of the names on there, and do not enjoy all of the music posted, but there is some quality music being composed today and its exciting to see them being performed in concerts and posted on YouTube.

And anyway, if you enjoy everything you hear, you're not casting a wide enough sonic net  :D

Quote from: karlhenning on September 18, 2013, 05:16:36 AM
And anyway, if you enjoy everything you hear, you're not casting a wide enough sonic net  :D

If you do not mind taking your own advice tell this to your "Magellan".

So much of Martinu's oeuvre could be considered 'unsung' but I chose his orchestral trilogy: Les Fresques de Piero della Francesca, The Parables, and Estampes. All of these works should be played in a concert together. Estampes is the last orchestral work Martinu composed.

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 18, 2013, 05:43:00 PM
So much of Martinu's oeuvre could be considered 'unsung' but I chose his orchestral trilogy: Les Fresques de Piero della Francesca, The Parables, and Estampes. All of these works should be played in a concert together. Estampes is the last orchestral work Martinu composed.

If only the Atlanta Symphony had you as a director but it takes a bit more (actually a lot more) than you can imagine.

Quote from: Johnll on September 18, 2013, 06:42:38 PM
If only the Atlanta Symphony had you as a director but it takes a bit more (actually a lot more) than you can imagine.

Haha! I wouldn't want the job. :)

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 18, 2013, 05:10:33 AM
+1
SanAntonio is doing some phenomenal posting on that thread. I may only be familiar with a small percentage of the names on there, and do not enjoy all of the music posted, but there is some quality music being composed today and its exciting to see them being performed in concerts and posted on YouTube.

+1 to what Greg said there.

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 18, 2013, 05:10:33 AM
+1
SanAntonio is doing some phenomenal posting on that thread. I may only be familiar with a small percentage of the names on there, and do not enjoy all of the music posted, but there is some quality music being composed today and its exciting to see them being performed in concerts and posted on YouTube.

Yes, another vote to check out that 21st century thread; sanantonio is making it very easy to investigate a lot of off-the-radar music.

--Bruce

Big thanks to san anton'!

Concerti round.....

Glazunov Piano Concerto 2
Coleridge-Taylor Violin Concerto
Debussy Saxophone Rapsodie
Tveitt Piano Concerto 4
Skold Violin Concerto

Quote from: karlhenning on September 18, 2013, 04:14:45 AM
We recorded the première of the Forbes antiphon;  I must find it and make it available to you.

The Ottevanger wants a performance, it is true.

The Turner goblin-music is on Soundcloud, e.g. (http://soundcloud.com/hand2ear/iii-clockwork-goblins)

Thanks, I'll try look into these during the weekend.

And thank you for asking!

Quote from: kyjo on September 16, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Look, guys, I'm not trying to be a pompous jerk (although I may come across as being one); I'm just trying to figure out what's keeping you from investigating "unsung" music. :)

Well, I'm not afraid of trying "new to me" music!  But right now I don't have a lot of Internet time nor money.  Gotta earn that living...

Here is my list, in alphabetical order (and maybe also decreasing popularity):

Brahms: Geistliches Lied
Finzi: Romance for String Orchestra
Kernis: Musica Celestis
Ropartz: Prélude, Marine et Chansons
Vladigerov: Piano Concerto No. 3

Quote from: Trout on September 22, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
Here is my list, in alphabetical order (and maybe also decreasing popularity):

Brahms: Geistliches Lied
Finzi: Romance for String Orchestra
Kernis: Musica Celestis
Ropartz: Prélude, Marine et Chansons
Vladigerov: Piano Concerto No. 3

OK, I'll rejoin this thread now that we're back to list-making! :D The Finzi and Kernis works are quite beautiful. I remember enjoying the Vladigerov quite a bit, but it's been a while since I've heard the Ropartz or the Brahms. Will have to refresh my memory of them. :)

Quote from: kyjo on September 22, 2013, 07:37:14 PM
OK, I'll rejoin this thread now that we're back to list-making! :D The Finzi and Kernis works are quite beautiful. I remember enjoying the Vladigerov quite a bit, but it's been a while since I've heard the Ropartz or the Brahms. Will have to refresh my memory of them. :)

I am glad you like some of them. The Brahms is one of the most sublime pieces I have heard and the Ropartz is a very evocative, lovely piece for flute, harp, and string trio (a fantastic combination when used correctly, in my opinion), so I hope you find the two to your liking. I also appreciate all of your and everyone else's contributions to this thread. I look forward to listening to them all.

I also realized that my list leaned heavily on romantic/neo-romantic pieces, so to supplement that I offer 5 pieces on the somewhat earlier side of the classical music spectrum:

Caldara: Maddalena ai piedi di Cristo
Eberl: Symphony in E-flat
Kozeluch: Clarinet Concerto No. 1 in E-flat
Kraus: Symphony in C minor
Spohr: Die letzten Dinge

(yes, how did you guess E-flat major was a favorite key of mine?  :D)

Quote from: Mirror Image on September 09, 2013, 07:44:25 AM
Another list:
Hindemith: Die vier Temperamente

This is not an "unsung" work at all. It was commissioned by Balanchine for the New York City Ballet, and continues to be one of the most frequently performed works there. I've seen it at least three times in the past ten years, it's in this season's repertory, and there is a DVD of the choreography.