Almost all favorite composers listed by GMG members are from 18th, 19th and 20th century. J.S. Bach seems to be the "first" favorite composer for many.
How about 17th century? My top 10 list wasn't easy to make. It looks like this:
Buxtehude, Dietrich (1637 - 1707)
Bruhns, Nicolaus (1665 - 1697)
Charpentier, Marc-Antoine (1643 - 1704)
Purcell, Henry (1659 - 1695)
Weckmann, Matthias (1616 - 1674)
Schütz, Heinrich (1585 - 1672)
Tunder, Franz (1613 - 1667)
Lully, Jean-Baptiste (1632 - 1687)
Monteverdi, Claudio (1567 - 1643)
Rosenmüller, Johann (c.1619 - 1684)
Which composers qualify? At least major part of works/important works composed in 17th century.
You need to claify. Born in 17th century? Bach, Handel etc, or mainly active in the 17th century (I see some of your choices streches into the next century)?
But it's high time we had a thread like this.
Quote from: The new erato on October 05, 2013, 12:45:41 AM
You need to claify. Born in 17th century? Bach, Handel etc, or mainly active in the 17th century (I see some of your choices streches into the next century)?
But it's high time we had a thread like this.
At least major part of works/important works composed in 17th century. J.S. Bach and Handel don't qualify in my opinion since their career started in the beginning of the 18th century. Monteverdi however does qualify. Figure it out yourself but this is not about high/late baroque nor renaissance composers. This is about early and middle baroque, roughly from Monteverdi (most works composed after year 1600) to Corelli (Opp. 1-4 before year 1700).
Quote from: The new erato on October 05, 2013, 12:45:41 AMBut it's high time we had a thread like this.
Yes, that's why I created it. ;)
Buxtehude, Dietrich (1637 - 1707)
Charpentier, Marc-Antoine (1643 - 1704)
Purcell, Henry (1659 - 1695)
Schütz, Heinrich (1585 - 1672)
Cavalli, Francesco (1602 - 1676)
Lully, Jean-Baptiste (1632 - 1687)
Monteverdi, Claudio (1567 - 1643)
Rosenmüller, Johann (c.1619 - 1684)
Carissimi, Giacomo (1605- 1674)
Stradella, Alessandro (1639–1682)
Claudio Monteverdi
Francesco Cavalli
Giulio Caccini
Jean Baptiste Lully
Michel-Richard Delalande
Monsieur de Sainte-Colombe
Louis Couperin
Johann Jakob Froberger
Marc-Antoine Charpentier
Henry Purcell
Monteverdi, Claudio (1567 - 1643)
Frescobaldi, Girolamo (1583 - 1643)
Schütz, Heinrich (1585 - 1672)
Lawes, William (1602 - 1645)
Lully, Jean-Baptiste (1632 - 1687)
Buxtehude, Dietrich (1637 - 1707)
Charpentier, Marc-Antoine (1643 - 1704)
Biber von Bibern, Heinrich Ignaz Franz (1644 - 1704)
Purcell, Henry (1659 - 1695)
Corelli, Arcangelo (1653 - 1713)
Quote from: The new erato on October 05, 2013, 01:58:15 AM
Buxtehude, Dietrich (1637 - 1707)
Charpentier, Marc-Antoine (1643 - 1704)
Purcell, Henry (1659 - 1695)
Schütz, Heinrich (1585 - 1672)
Cavalli, Francesco (1602 - 1676)
Lully, Jean-Baptiste (1632 - 1687)
Monteverdi, Claudio (1567 - 1643)
Rosenmüller, Johann (c.1619 - 1684)
Carissimi, Giacomo (1605- 1674)
Stradella, Alessandro (1639–1682)
Quote from: Drasko on October 05, 2013, 02:16:08 AM
Claudio Monteverdi
Francesco Cavalli
Giulio Caccini
Jean Baptiste Lully
Michel-Richard Delalande
Monsieur de Sainte-Colombe
Louis Couperin
Johann Jakob Froberger
Marc-Antoine Charpentier
Henry Purcell
Nice lists. I don't have anything from
Cavalli,
Caccini and
Froberger. Froberger is on my "composers to explore someday" list. Louis Couperin is a composer I have hardly anything from so another important to explore! :P
I'm content with five:
Henry Purcell
Claudio Monteverdi
William Lawes
Marin Marais
Jean Baptiste-Lully
But looking forward to expanding my list with composers sourced from this thread!
Quote from: Rinaldo on October 05, 2013, 02:46:10 AM
I'm content with five:
Henry Purcell
Claudio Monteverdi
William Lawes
Marin Marais
Jean Baptiste-Lully
But looking forward to expanding my list with composers sourced from this thread!
That's a good start. Strongly recommended directions for expanding would be
Buxtehude and
M.-A. Charpentier ;)
Weckmann
Scheidemann
Scheidt
L. Couperin
Buxtehude
Froberger
Charpentier
Frescobaldi
Lully
Marais
Thanks for everyone who participated. Looks like the 17th century isn't that popular among most GMG members. Shame. :-\
Personally I find the 17th century very interesting period. I would love to explore composers of that era much deeper, but recordings are scarce and often expensive. It took me a decade to get all of the survived cantatas by Nicolaus Bruhns for a reasonable price.
Quote from: 71 dB on October 10, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
Thanks for everyone who participated. Looks like the 17th century isn't that popular among most GMG members. Shame. :-\
It's popular with me; that's all I need to know.
Well, just went through my database (criteria - at least 2 or more CDs) to see who I had from this era (i.e. mainly active as an adult in the 17th century) - found the list below, many overlapping w/ others' - now just 'put in bold' the ones I probably like the most - NOW, there are a handful of others mentioned in previous posts that I should explore - Dave :)
Anglebert, Jean d' (1629-1691)
Biber, Heinrich (1644-1704)
Bruhns, Nicolaus (1665-1697)
Buxtehude, Dietrich (1637-1707)
Chambonnieres, Jacques (1601-1672)
Charpentier, Marc-Antoine (1643-1704)
Corelli, Arcangelo (1653-1713)
Frescobaldi, Girolamo (1583-1643)
Froberger, Johann (1616-1667)
Jenkins, John (1592-1678)
Lawes, William (1602-1645)
Lully, Jean-Baptiste (1632-1687)
Marais, Marin (1656-1728)
Monteverdi, Claudio (1567-1643)
Pachelbel, Johann (1653-1706)
Purcell, Henry (1659-1695)
Schutz, Heinrich (1585-1672)
Sweelinck, Jan (1562-1621)
Tomkins, Thomas (1572-1656)
I don't know nearly enough 17th century music, tbh. These are the ones I've enjoyed most so far
Frescobaldi
Froberger
Biber
Sweelinck (is he 16th century?)
Marais
Sainte-Colombe
L Couperin & Charpentier head the "to listen to" list at the moment.
I think Byrd is mostly 16th century (died around 1624 ish?) but I like his music quite a lot as well. I don't remember when Bull or Dowland were.
My list did not include any works by Weckmann, Matthias (c. 1616-1674), so decided to order a couple discs (the Ricercar is a twofer):
(http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-FK2LwTL/0/O/Weckmann_KB_ChamMusic.jpg) (http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-fzRZNcD/0/O/Weckmann_Harpsichord.jpg)
Quote from: SonicMan46 on October 11, 2013, 11:23:14 AM
My list did not include any works by Weckmann, Matthias (c. 1616-1674), so decided to order a couple discs (the Ricercar is a twofer):
(http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-FK2LwTL/0/O/Weckmann_KB_ChamMusic.jpg) (http://giradman.smugmug.com/Other/Classical-Music/i-fzRZNcD/0/O/Weckmann_Harpsichord.jpg)
Both of these have been on my wishlist for some time! :-\
Quote from: 71 dB on October 11, 2013, 12:23:18 PM
Both of these have been on my wishlist for some time! :-\
+1 - well not too long, really. But what I've heard from them is great (½ of the Katzschke from YT, the whole album is there, and bits from the La Fenice disc)
Quote from: 71 dB on October 11, 2013, 12:23:18 PM
Both of these have been on my wishlist for some time! :-\ Re: Weckmann..
Hi
Poju - boy has been a while since we've exchanged posts on this site! :D
Well, you &
Sammy (i.e. Don) steered me to this 17th century composer - I have much from this era (plus a lot of single CDs that I did not list), SO a new composer to me that I hope that these just ordered CDs will be a joy - sure that I will not be disappointed! Dave :)
Monteverdi
Schutz
Purcell
Carissimi
Corelli
Marais
Buxtehude
Biber
Charpentier
Lully
Part of my problem here is that I'm not too much into middle baroque, and I tend to think not in terms of centuries but of early Baroque, etc. It seems slightly unnatural to me to put, f.i., Monteverdi and Corelli into the same category.
Quote from: 71 dB on October 11, 2013, 12:23:18 PM
Both of these have been on my wishlist for some time! :-\
One N or two?
Quote from: SonicMan46 on October 11, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
Hi Poju - boy has been a while since we've exchanged posts on this site! :D
Well, you & Sammy (i.e. Don) steered me to this 17th century composer - I have much from this era (plus a lot of single CDs that I did not list), SO a new composer to me that I hope that these just ordered CDs will be a joy - sure that I will not be disappointed! Dave :)
Hmm... ...when was the last time we exchanged posts on this site Dave?
I don't see how you could be disappointed with those CDs if you generally enjoy 17th century music. ;)
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on October 11, 2013, 04:48:12 PM
Monteverdi
Schutz
Purcell
Carissimi
Corelli
Marais
Buxtehude
Biber
Charpentier
Lully
Part of my problem here is that I'm not too much into middle baroque, and I tend to think not in terms of centuries but of early Baroque, etc. It seems slightly unnatural to me to put, f.i., Monteverdi and Corelli into the same category.
Middle baroque has been overlooked imo, shadowed by late baroque composers. J.S. Bach didn't emerge from a musical void. He was insanely talented and a genius but one ingredient of his achiements is the legacy of middle baroque composers. Bach had the solid foundation of such composers as Buxtehude, Bruhns and Kuhnau to build on his own legacy. Even Handel met Buxtehude who was the paragon for late baroque composers of northern Europe.
I like the "vibe" of middle baroque. I sounds edgy, bold and ambitious but also very beautiful. There's some sort of internal coherence and balance to it and sometimes I feel that late baroque music is "overripe", condemned to mutate slowly into classisism. I'm not saying middle baroque style is better than other styles. I am saying it's equally interesting and lacks the recognition it deserves.
Monteverdi and Corelli are like an apple and an orange. Monteverdi is "barely" a baroque composer of transition period from renaissance to baroque while Corelli's last compositions are more or less late baroque. Also, these composers concentrated on very different kind of genres. Monteverdi wrote madrigals in late renaissance style and early operas while Corelli stayed away from vocal music completely. These two composers just happen to be the starting and ending points of my category of 17th century composers. :D
Hi Sean - in the last few days in researching this composer's life & works, I've seen his name spelled both ways - the two recordings I ordered show each spelling (another below w/ just one 'n') - the Wiki article I read (and other hits on Google) seem to favor two 'n's - maybe our German speakers w/ a knowledge of the spelling of names in that area back then can help? Dave :)
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/3pvgr.scms9/v/vspfiles/photos/LRCD-1065-67-2T.jpg)
Quote from: Sean on October 11, 2013, 05:09:34 PM
One N or two?
Either is correct. I'm sure you recall how flexible spelling was in those times. I have examples of at least 6 different spellings of Haydn's name, a couple of them stemming from his own wife! :)
8)
Quote from: Sean on October 11, 2013, 05:09:34 PM
One N or two?
Silly me, took me some time to understand what you are asking. :-X
Weckmann is more frequently used so that's what I use.
Thanks for the Weckmann mention 71, a new name to me and I'm exploring some of the organ music this week. Best, Sean
Quote from: Sean on October 12, 2013, 10:43:43 PM
Thanks for the Weckmann mention 71, a new name to me and I'm exploring some of the organ music this week. Best, Sean
My pleasure! :) Hope you enjoy his organ music. ;)