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Title: Bronzed CDs
Post by: George on October 11, 2013, 04:41:18 AM
Have you found that you have bought any CDs that are listed on the bronzing list that actually turned out to be fine, meaning, never actually bronzed at all? I ask because one of the CDs I may purchase is on the bronzing list, but it is from a seller online. He says there's a "evenly spread tint" on the label side and the other side of the CD is fully silver.

Here's the list I am referring to:
http://www.classical.net/music/guide/defective.php

Any feedback is appreciated.

Thanks!
George
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Daverz on October 11, 2013, 04:48:59 AM
Bronzing is an uneven brown discoloration that in my experience effects the outer part of the disc the worst.

An uniform champagne color is not bronzing.

What's the disc?
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Parsifal on October 11, 2013, 05:25:09 AM
Quote from: George on October 11, 2013, 04:41:18 AM
Have you found that you have bought any CDs that are listed on the bronzing list that actually turned out to be fine, meaning, never actually bronzed at all? I ask because one of the CDs I may purchase is on the bronzing list, but it is from a seller online. He says there's a "evenly spread tint" on the label side and the other side of the CD is fully silver.

Any color visible on the label side but not on the other side is what was printed on the disc.  Just because some copies of a release have bronzing doesn't mean all copies will have it.  When the problem surfaced labels printed new batches of the affected releases.
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: George on October 11, 2013, 05:35:24 AM
Quote from: Daverz on October 11, 2013, 04:48:59 AM
An uniform champagne color is not bronzing.

Great! Hopefully that's what the seller is describing.

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What's the disc?

I'd rather not say, as the last time I mentioned something like this online, it was scooped up by someone else.

Quote from: Scarpia on October 11, 2013, 05:25:09 AM
Any color visible on the label side but not on the other side is what was printed on the disc.  Just because some copies of a release have bronzing doesn't mean all copies will have it.  When the problem surfaced labels printed new batches of the affected releases.

Awesome! Thanks!!
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 05:40:36 AM
I recently dug out a Hyperion disk which I hadn't heard for years since I ripped it to MP3 in 2002 or so. It was a now a perfectly even, dark gold color on both sides. I had my fingers crossed while I was ripping it to flac that it would make it to the end, but the last two tracks were heavily static-filled. I wrote Hyperion and they didn't have another copy of it, but they offered to burn me a CD-R or that I could have a flac download. I took the download and burned my own CD-R since I had the liner notes and all. When I first stored that disk it had just the slightest gold color to it. When I reopened it, it looked like the winner of the George Hamilton Cocoa Butter Open Tan-off.  :'(

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Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: George on October 11, 2013, 05:45:02 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 05:40:36 AM
I recently dug out a Hyperion disk which I hadn't heard for years since I ripped it to MP3 in 2002 or so. It was a now a perfectly even, dark gold color on both sides. I had my fingers crossed while I was ripping it to flac that it would make it to the end, but the last two tracks were heavily static-filled. I wrote Hyperion and they didn't have another copy of it, but they offered to burn me a CD-R or that I could have a flac download. I took the download and burned my own CD-R since I had the liner notes and all. When I first stored that disk it had just the slightest gold color to it. When I reopened it, it looked like the winner of the George Hamilton Cocoa Butter Open Tan-off.  :'(

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Man, that sucks!

On the other hand, your final comment has me LMAO!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: DavidW on October 11, 2013, 09:12:23 AM
I had one bronzed cd, the Horenstein Mahler 3.  That was quite awhile ago, no other cases.
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Holden on October 11, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Slightly OT, I had an APR disc that basically rotted away with the inner silver just disappearing from the outside in. Fortunately I had already burned my own CD-R of this great recording
Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 03:53:35 PM
Quote from: Holden on October 11, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Slightly OT, I had an APR disc that basically rotted away with the inner silver just disappearing from the outside in. Fortunately I had already burned my own CD-R of this great recording

Wow, seriously? I never heard of such thing. They must have had the power setting on the laser turned up a bit too high that day! :o :o

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Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on October 11, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 05:40:36 AM
When I reopened it, it looked like the winner of the George Hamilton Cocoa Butter Open Tan-off.  :'(

:laugh:

If it don't pass the Zonk test it just ain't bronzed. :D


Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on October 11, 2013, 04:47:03 PM
:laugh:

If it don't pass the Zonk test it just ain't bronzed. :D

:)  Well, this was the worst I ever saw. Picture a Hyperion disk, silver with maroon silkscreen printing. The silver was so dark that I was hard-pressed to read the maroon writing!  Zonker would have been proud!  :)

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Title: Re: Bronzed CDs
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on October 11, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 11, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
:)  Well, this was the worst I ever saw. Picture a Hyperion disk, silver with maroon silkscreen printing. The silver was so dark that I was hard-pressed to read the maroon writing!  Zonker would have been proud!  :)

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Yep, sounds like a professional job. ;D