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The Music Room => General Classical Music Discussion => The Polling Station => Topic started by: Karl Henning on October 15, 2013, 11:52:41 AM

Poll
Question: Which duet to write?
Option 1: soprano sax & marimba votes: 5
Option 2: alto sax & marimba votes: 12
Title: Choose a saxophone!
Post by: Karl Henning on October 15, 2013, 11:52:41 AM
Piece for 2014-15. I want opinions!
Title: Re: Choose a saxophone!
Post by: Brahmsian on October 15, 2013, 11:55:06 AM
alto, all the way!  :)
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Post by: Cato on October 15, 2013, 11:57:14 AM
Soprano saxophone and marimba, because the alto is too ubiquitous.

Oh yes, and be sure to have the saxophone player shake her cowbell now and then!  0:)

And a helicopter should not be used!  ;)
Title: Re: Choose a saxophone!
Post by: Karl Henning on October 15, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
The saxes are neck and neck (wocka wocka!)

Definitely no aircraft!
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Post by: Brian on October 15, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
Tenor sax! With either Coleman Hawkins or John Coltrane attached.  8)
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Post by: Karl Henning on October 15, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
In my dreams.  The choice though is driven by performers known to my publisher.
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Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 15, 2013, 12:55:45 PM
Soprano!  8)
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Post by: kyjo on October 15, 2013, 01:06:09 PM
Alto (or better yet, tenor or baritone)! 8)
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Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on October 15, 2013, 01:08:27 PM
Alto for me. The sound of the soprano sax reminds me too much of 'smooth man' Kenny G. Although commercially that might not be a bad thing. ;)


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Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 15, 2013, 03:50:33 PM
Soprano is taking a beating in the poll.  $:)
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Post by: TheGSMoeller on October 15, 2013, 04:42:19 PM
New suggestion: Baritone Sax & Glockenspiel
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Post by: Cato on October 15, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on October 15, 2013, 01:08:27 PM
Alto for me. The sound of the soprano sax reminds me too much of 'smooth man' Kenny G. Although commercially that might not be a bad thing. ;)

That's part of the point!  Karl's work would be an exorcism of that blonde Beelzebub!   >:D
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Post by: Brahmsian on October 15, 2013, 04:50:46 PM
I adore the bass clarinet.....runs and hides....

Alto or baritone sax would fit lovely, I think, with the marimba.
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Post by: amw on October 15, 2013, 04:55:05 PM
I like the soprano more in combinations, but it's less... saxophoney. Baritone would be the way to go if it were an option.
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Post by: jochanaan on October 15, 2013, 05:43:16 PM
It could go either way.  Soprano would contrast more with the marimba; alto would blend more...

(For a moment I thought you might be talking Selmer, Conn or Yamaha! :laugh: )
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Post by: SonicMan46 on October 15, 2013, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on October 15, 2013, 12:06:53 PM
In my dreams.  The choice though is driven by performers known to my publisher.

Hi Karl - I love all of the 'family' of saxophones but my hearing experience is mainly jazz oriented and I have favs w/ each - voted for an alto sax w/ a marimba, just seemed to blend better, but if contrast is needed then the soprano would be great (BTW, can you get Sidney Bechet for the part? ;)) - BUT, good luck w/ the composition regardless of your choice - I'm sure that you will do well w/ either sax - Dave :)
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Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on October 15, 2013, 07:49:51 PM
Quote from: Cato on October 15, 2013, 04:49:51 PM
That's part of the point!  Karl's work would be an exorcism of that blonde Beelzebub!   >:D

HA!

True. If it works, a new paradigm!

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Post by: mc ukrneal on October 15, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
It really just depends on what kind of piece and sound you want to create. The alto can create lower sounds and can provide more range in certain ways (texture and notes). The soprano can provide more highs and can be more differentiating. It really just depends what you have in mind. The mirimba itself has a wider range, so what you plan for that can be the catalyst for which saxophone to choose. My suggestion would be to go to youtube, enter 'marimba and saxophone', and just listen to the sound of the instruments. You may find this helpful. Both will do whatever you want to do in a satisfactory way.
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Post by: Octave on October 15, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
I understand that the soprano sax is fiendishly difficult to play in tune, maybe partly the result of its being a 'double' instrument much more often than a mainstay.  (Is this true?)  Also the larger body of literature and specialists for the alto.
Of course, all this could decide in favor of the soprano for yr piece.
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Post by: david johnson on October 15, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
I believe you'll get more tonal color with the alto/marimba.  of course, you might really be looking for that Kenny G sound!   hmmm...Concerto in G for Kenny?
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Post by: Karl Henning on October 16, 2013, 01:26:00 AM
I think one could write for soprano saxophone without "looking for that Kenny G sound" about as readily as writing for tenor saxophone without "looking for that Clarence Clemmons sound."  No instrument is limited by any famous practitioner. Not for a proper composer, anyway.
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Post by: Wanderer on October 16, 2013, 03:02:21 AM
I would also go with the soprano saxophone.
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Post by: Cato on October 16, 2013, 04:32:58 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on October 16, 2013, 03:02:21 AM
I would also go with the soprano saxophone.

Yes!  To paraphrase cartoon character Eric Cartman  :o "Booo, alto sax!  Booo!"   0:)
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Post by: jochanaan on October 16, 2013, 02:35:07 PM
Quote from: mc ukrneal on October 15, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
It really just depends on what kind of piece and sound you want to create. The alto can create lower sounds and can provide more range in certain ways (texture and notes). The soprano can provide more highs and can be more differentiating. It really just depends what you have in mind. The mirimba itself has a wider range, so what you plan for that can be the catalyst for which saxophone to choose. My suggestion would be to go to youtube, enter 'marimba and saxophone', and just listen to the sound of the instruments. You may find this helpful. Both will do whatever you want to do in a satisfactory way.
I suspect our friend Karl is intimately familiar with both the sound and playing of all saxophones and marimba! :)
Quote from: Octave on October 15, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
I understand that the soprano sax is fiendishly difficult to play in tune, maybe partly the result of its being a 'double' instrument much more often than a mainstay.  (Is this true?)...
It is difficult, but not for that reason.  The smaller wind instruments are just that much more difficult to make good sounds on.  It's all about the pressure needed to play: the smaller the horn, the harder you have to blow (and the less air you use).  Although I've never played the soprano, I have played alto, tenor and baritone, which were easy for me to play relatively well.  (That's one advantage of specializing on the oboe: Everything else is easy by comparison! :o ;D)  But if a player starts on alto or tenor sax, s/he needs to work harder to make the soprano sound good.