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Title: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 09, 2013, 01:35:11 PM
Hi, I´ve dropping in on this site once in a while searching for info, opinions, etc. I´m mainly into avant-garde (lately I´ve found out that Don Cherry sounds somehow like Xenakis in Eonta, I think, or the other way round). Listening to Berio while typing this. I´m not a musician myself, just an aficionado after 30 years. Nice site. See you!
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Mirror Image on November 09, 2013, 04:49:47 PM
Welcome aboard! You like Xenakis and Berio? Nice! Who are some of your other favorite composers, Pessoa?
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: kishnevi on November 09, 2013, 05:16:37 PM
Bienvenidos! 

You'll find that there are a couple of other Spanish speakers here at GMG.  I'm not one of them.  I just have a whole bunch of neighbors who do (South Florida). 

I infer from the name you chose for GMG that poetry is another big interest for you.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: david johnson on November 09, 2013, 10:27:45 PM
Hello, and welcome among us  :)
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Fafner on November 10, 2013, 12:09:53 AM
Hello and welcome. Remember to have fun.   :D
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Papy Oli on November 10, 2013, 01:20:58 AM
Hello and welcome !!
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 02:22:27 AM
Thanks for your welcome. Yes,  I like poetry and literature in general, all my life has been spent among books; from Pessoa, I prefer his Livro do Desassossego to his poetry, to which I´m only attached to a bunch of sonets, but my chosing his name as a nick comes from the fact that I once joined a Portuguese forum and used that name because it refers to the writer but it also means "person" in Portuguese, When I saw that this site has the same layout as the one in Portugal, I decided to use Pessoa, so as to not load my memory with more usernames and passwords. Composers I like: Maderna, Sciarrino, Stockhausen, Cage, Feldman, Boulez, Oliveros (her electronic works, which is what I know from her and also from Luening), Reich, Ligeti, De Pablo...  And I dig Michael Franks!  :)
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Lisztianwagner on November 10, 2013, 02:27:05 AM
Welcome to the forum and have a nice time!
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: mc ukrneal on November 10, 2013, 02:59:50 AM
Welcome. We have a number of members who really dig your list. Enjoy.
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Post by: Christo on November 10, 2013, 03:54:25 AM
Welcome from one of the corners of the former Empire!  ;)
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 04:03:33 AM
 

The Netherlands, probably first modern European  revolution  ;)
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Christo on November 10, 2013, 04:11:48 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 04:03:33 AMThe Netherlands, probably first modern European  revolution  ;)

... or one of the last acts in a Medieval Drama. 'Modernity' isn't something easily defined.  :-\
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Wakefield on November 10, 2013, 04:23:56 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 04:03:33 AM


The Netherlands...  ;)

Welcome from the "Indian Flandes"! (this is a difficult one, I know  ;D)
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 04:46:58 AM
Quote from: Gordo on November 10, 2013, 04:23:56 AM
Welcome from the "Indian Flandes"! (this is a difficult one, I know  ;D)

Somewhere in Central or South America? Chile?  :blank:
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 06:20:54 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 02:22:27 AMComposers I like: Maderna, Sciarrino, Stockhausen, Cage, Feldman, Boulez, Oliveros (her electronic works, which is what I know from her and also from Luening), Reich, Ligeti, De Pablo...  And I dig Michael Franks!  :)

I don't care for Stockhausen personally. There's one member here who worships his music, though. From your list, I haven't heard any music from Oliveros or De Pablo. Can you recommend any of their recordings?
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 06:48:09 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 06:20:54 AM
I don't care for Stockhausen personally. There's one member here who worships his music, though. From your list, I haven't heard any music from Oliveros or De Pablo. Can you recommend any of their recordings?
Yeah, lol, I´ve read some of those hot exchanges in the Stockhausen thread ( and in the Xenakis one as well). As for Pauline Oliveros, I like Rattlesnake mountain (accordeon and electronics, and the ones contained in Electronic works 1965-1966, Paradigm discs CD 1997). Luis de Pablo has a very long musical career; to name a few: We (for tape), Poema de madera (wood poem, for choir and 6 percussionists, 2 of them playing txalaparta, a traditional Basque instrument, a favorite of mine along with We), Figura en el mar (flute and orchestra), Melisma furioso (flute), Ritornello (8 cellos), Pocket zarzuela (mezzo and chamber orchestra)...
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 07:10:43 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 06:48:09 AM
Yeah, lol, I´ve read some of those hot exchanges in the Stockhausen thread ( and in the Xenakis one as well). As for Pauline Oliveros, I like Rattlesnake mountain (accordeon and electronics, and the ones contained in Electronic works 1965-1966, Paradigm discs CD 1997). Luis de Pablo has a very long musical career; to name a few: We (for tape), Poema de madera (wood poem, for choir and 6 percussionists, 2 of them playing txalaparta, a traditional Basque instrument, a favorite of mine along with We), Figura en el mar (flute and orchestra), Melisma furioso (flute), Ritornello (8 cellos), Pocket zarzuela (mezzo and chamber orchestra)...

Yeah, I don't frequent that Stockhausen thread (I have no business there), but the Xenakis thread has had some recent conflicts which have been sorted out rather nicely. :) Thanks for the recommendations. What do you make of Olga Neuwirth? You familiar with her music? I'm still very new to Contemporary classical having come in through the back door. :D
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 07:24:53 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 07:10:43 AM
Yeah, I don't frequent that Stockhausen thread (I have no business there), but the Xenakis thread has had some recent conflicts which have been sorted out rather nicely. :) Thanks for the recommendations. What do you make of Olga Neuwirth? You familiar with her music? I'm still very new to Contemporary classical having come in through the back door. :D
I never heard of her, to be honest. She is younger than me... I read in the wiki she was  influenced by Nono, I must look for some of her music. And it´s good you mentioned, because my scope in music is very wide and my days of anxious searching are gone, so I´m glad to have a new selected name given to listen to.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 07:24:53 AM
I never heard of her, to be honest. She is younger than me... I read in the wiki she was  influenced by Nono, I must look for some of her music. And it´s good you mentioned, because my scope in music is very wide and my days of anxious searching are gone, so I´m glad to have a new selected name given to listen to.

Yeah, I don't know much about her either. In fact, Nono is a composer I'm in dire need of exploring at some point as well. But, as I mentioned, I'm still a wide-eyed tourist in the world of Contemporary classical. I shouldn't say I'm completely ignorant of everything that is happening right now, but I certainly would like to familiarize myself with more of these composers. I really started off as a Modernist and have been slowly for the last 4-5 years building up my collection and exploring as much as I can from the first 50 years of the 20th Century. Now, I'm working my way ahead with post-WWII composers.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 07:30:03 AM
Yeah, I don't know much about her either. In fact, Nono is a composer I'm in dire need of exploring at some point as well. But, as I mentioned, I'm still a wide-eyed tourist in the world of Contemporary classical. I shouldn't say I'm completely ignorant of everything that is happening right now, but I certainly would like to familiarize myself with more of these composers. I really started off as a Modernist and have been slowly for the last 4-5 years building up my collection and exploring as much as I can from the first 50 years of the 20th Century. Now, I'm working my way ahead with post-WWII composers.
What do you think of Nixon in China and Eistein on the beach?
By the way, there is one composer in yor list who I seem to connect to a very large extent, always being moved by his music: Maurice Ravel.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Mirror Image on November 10, 2013, 08:10:44 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 07:41:36 AM
What do you think of Nixon in China and Eistein on the beach?
By the way, there is one composer in yor list who I seem to connect to a very large extent, always being moved by his music: Maurice Ravel.

I'm not really a big fan of Minimalism, but I do like Reich's music a good bit. Adams is very cool composer, but one work of his I can call an unequivocal masterpiece and it's Harmonielehre. Lately, my enthusiasm for his music seems to be waning, but that is one work I really admire and continue to be awestruck by. I don't think much of Nixon in China. Glass is a composer I loathe. I find no redeeming qualities in his music that would warrant any more time from my own listening. Ravel, on the other hand, I adore and have loved for many years. I may not listen to his music much anymore, but, still, he's definitely a favorite of mine.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: bhodges on November 10, 2013, 09:18:53 AM
Welcome, Pessoa - and I am a huge fan of Berio, Xenakis, and most of the other composers on your list, too. Have a good time here!

--Bruce
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
Quote from: Brewski on November 10, 2013, 09:18:53 AM
Welcome, Pessoa - and I am a huge fan of Berio, Xenakis, and most of the other composers on your list, too. Have a good time here!

--Bruce
Il ritorno degli Snovidenia!  ;)
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: bhodges on November 11, 2013, 08:11:15 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 10, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
Il ritorno degli Snovidenia!  ;)

0:)

My entry point to much of 20th-century music was Sinfonia (which I heard at least 10 years prior to hearing the Mahler 2 used in the middle movement). Still one of my faves, but then, Berio in general rocks.

--Bruce
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Karl Henning on November 11, 2013, 08:17:50 AM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 11, 2013, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on November 11, 2013, 08:17:50 AM
Welcome!
Hi, I had seen your picture and read the list of composers underneath, was wondering about Henning.  I´m sorry I hadn´t heard before, but for the last years I´ve been mainly going deeper into my old acquaintances, disconnected of old personal musical relations and listening mainly to silence and the noises and gusts of music heard in walking the streets. It will be a peasure to look into your musical production
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 11, 2013, 08:59:10 AM
Quote from: Brewski on November 11, 2013, 08:11:15 AM
0:)

My entry point to much of 20th-century music was Sinfonia (which I heard at least 10 years prior to hearing the Mahler 2 used in the middle movement). Still one of my faves, but then, Berio in general rocks.

--Bruce
Ciircles was my first roll in the hay with Berio.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Karl Henning on November 11, 2013, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 11, 2013, 08:35:17 AM
Hi, I had seen your picture and read the list of composers underneath, was wondering about Henning.  I´m sorry I hadn´t heard before, but for the last years I´ve been mainly going deeper into my old acquaintances, disconnected of old personal musical relations and listening mainly to silence and the noises and gusts of music heard in walking the streets. It will be a peasure to look into your musical production

Thank you for your kindness.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: petrarch on November 11, 2013, 05:35:18 PM
Welcome, and your list of composers is quite juicy... You'll find some people here attuned to that kind of music, myself included. And interesting to know you like Pessoa--being portuguese myself, Pessoa is indeed an important and much loved writer where I come from!
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: The new erato on November 11, 2013, 10:15:30 PM
Welcome Pessoa. Don't know Spain much, but had some really wonderful times up north this summer. Simply outstandingly friendly and beautiful.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Florestan on November 12, 2013, 12:54:57 AM
Welcome and greetings from a big fan of Pessoa's poetry and of Spanish music.  :D
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 12, 2013, 02:27:33 AM
Thank you. I come from the  mountains of the north of Spain myself.
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Florestan on November 12, 2013, 05:52:20 AM
Quote from: Pessoa on November 12, 2013, 02:27:33 AM
Thank you. I come from the  mountains of the north of Spain myself.

Covadonga? Picos de Europa?
Title: Re: Hi from Spain
Post by: Pessoa on November 12, 2013, 06:39:08 AM
Quote from: Florestan on November 12, 2013, 05:52:20 AM
Covadonga? Picos de Europa?
That`s right!  :)