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Title: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 07:27:33 AM
a :  made gentle by age or experience
b :  rich and full but free from garishness or stridency
c :  warmed and relaxed by or as if by liquor

:)
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 01, 2014, 07:28:42 AM
Satie?
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Post by: Brian on July 01, 2014, 07:38:28 AM
Delius. Too mellow, if you listen to some of his haters. :)
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Post by: Brahmsian on July 01, 2014, 07:40:26 AM
Penderecki, of course!  :)
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Post by: EigenUser on July 01, 2014, 07:41:23 AM
Feldman! I love his "Piano and String Quartet" and "Rothko Chapel", among many others.
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Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 07:43:48 AM
Feldman is INTENSE!
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Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 07:44:52 AM
Penderecki can be instense as well.
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Post by: Brahmsian on July 01, 2014, 07:45:41 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 01, 2014, 07:44:52 AM
Penderecki can be instense as well.

Indeed.  I definitely should have put this smiley instead:   :D, or  :laugh:, or  >:D
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 07:47:20 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on July 01, 2014, 07:45:41 AM
Indeed.  I definitely should have put this smiley instead:   :D, or  :laugh:, or  >:D

You jokester.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 07:54:51 AM
a :  made gentle by age or experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>Late Brahms
b :  rich and full but free from garishness or stridency >>>>Delius
c :  warmed and relaxed by or as if by liquor>>>>>>>>>>Rossini

Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 07:56:39 AM
Quote from: springrite on July 01, 2014, 07:54:51 AM
a :  made gentle by age or experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>Late Brahms
b :  rich and full but free from garishness or stridency >>>>Delius
c :  warmed and relaxed by or as if by liquor>>>>>>>>>>Rossini

Nice!
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Post by: Todd on July 01, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
Mompou.  Or Deliuzzzz.
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Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
Quote from: Todd on July 01, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
Deliuzzzz.

That's got to be one of the oldest composer jokes in the book, right?  :D

[ :o I just ordered an 18-disc Delius box set.]
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Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 08:40:22 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 01, 2014, 08:00:19 AM

[ :o I just ordered an 18-disc Delius box set.]

You will never suffer from insomnia again.
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Post by: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 08:43:47 AM
Quote from: Brian on July 01, 2014, 07:38:28 AM
Delius. Too mellow, if you listen to some of his haters. :)
Delius. He is too mellow.  :blank:
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Post by: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 08:45:45 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 01, 2014, 08:00:19 AM

[ :o I just ordered an 18-disc Delius box set.]

Whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 08:52:41 AM
Quote from: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 08:45:45 AM
Whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Whatever doesn't kill us puts us on life support
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Post by: Karl Henning on July 01, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 01, 2014, 07:47:20 AM
You jokester.

Canada Day has gone straight to Ray's head with nationalistic giddiness!  8)
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Post by: Karl Henning on July 01, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 01, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
That's got to be one of the oldest composer jokes in the book, right?  :D

[ :o I just ordered an 18-disc Delius box set.]

You just out-pranked Ray! :)
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Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 09:16:18 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 01, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Canada Day has gone straight to Ray's head with nationalistic giddiness!  8)

He's not that much better without it, though.
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Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 01, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
You just out-pranked Ray! :)

Oh, you think so?
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Post by: Karl Henning on July 01, 2014, 09:42:26 AM
Let us say, I hoped so  ;)
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Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 09:44:54 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 01, 2014, 09:42:26 AM
Let us say, I hoped so  ;)

[asin]B005RXKKQO[/asin]
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: Karl Henning on July 01, 2014, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 01, 2014, 09:44:54 AM
[asin]B005RXKKQO[/asin]

May I say, I hope you enjoy it!
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 01, 2014, 09:45:36 AM
May I say, I hope you enjoy it!

Thank you, sir.
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Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on July 01, 2014, 09:45:36 AM
May I say, I hope you enjoy it!

In MN, Delius is almost too hip (and I don't mean Historically Informed).
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: mn dave on July 01, 2014, 09:58:03 AM
Quote from: springrite on July 01, 2014, 09:55:02 AM
In MN, Delius is almost too hip (and I don't mean Historically Informed).

>:(
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 11:03:39 AM
Quote from: springrite on July 01, 2014, 08:52:41 AM
Whatever doesn't kill us puts us on life support
Comatose is a best case scenario when talking 18 discs of Delius.
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Post by: mc ukrneal on July 01, 2014, 11:07:20 AM
Satie and Debussy.
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Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 11:03:39 AM
Comatose is a best case scenario when talking 18 discs of Delius.
I stopped at a dozen.

PS: I actually like Delius, when the mood is right, which is about twice a year.
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Post by: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: springrite on July 01, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
I stopped at a dozen.

PS: I actually like Delius, when the mood is right, which is about twice a year.
I can see listening to one Delius once in a while, as penance mostly. I can imagine 3 or 4 discs might be endured without permanent damage. 7 or 8 must surely leave deep scars. I'd recommend a few Petterssons immediately afterward, to try to cheer oneself up.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: springrite on July 01, 2014, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: Ken B on July 01, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
I can see listening to one Delius once in a while, as penance mostly. I can imagine 3 or 4 discs might be endured without permanent damage. 7 or 8 must surely leave deep scars. I'd recommend a few Petterssons immediately afterward, to try to cheer oneself up.

Now you know why I am a Pettersson completist!
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: jochanaan on July 02, 2014, 05:57:20 PM
Quote from: ChamberNut on July 01, 2014, 07:40:26 AM
Penderecki, of course!  :)
:o >:D :laugh:

Seriously, I'd go for Fauré.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: marvinbrown on July 03, 2014, 11:21:26 AM


Based solely on compositions,  I'm going to have to go with Debussy.

Did I misunderstand the OP's question?

  marvin

Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on July 03, 2014, 11:59:24 AM
I reckon mellowness is in the eye of the hibernator.  It's hard to beat Delius in this dept., though I count myself as a fan.  (BTW, Kate Bush's homage to him "he's a moody old man" is well worth the listen:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmADS0sFCGA )

Some of the other suggests I frankly can't see (hear) as mellow.  Fauré, for example, seemingly transparent on the surface of things, has in many of his works a passion, if not dark undercurrent (eg: his Nocturnes), that keeps him from being doux.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: jochanaan on July 04, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: marvinbrown on July 03, 2014, 11:21:26 AM

Based solely on compositions,  I'm going to have to go with Debussy...
Hmmm...Even with the end of La Mer, Images and Jeux to reckon with? :o
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Post by: Ken B on July 04, 2014, 02:24:18 PM
Quote from: jochanaan on July 04, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
Hmmm...Even with the end of La Mer, Images and Jeux to reckon with? :o

One is habitually asleep for the latter parts of those pieces.
>:D  :laugh:

But Debussy is not mellow. Too many of his harmonies are unsettling in vague ways.
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Post by: 7/4 on July 04, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
Feldman, Debussy.  8)
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Post by: marvinbrown on July 04, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: jochanaan on July 04, 2014, 02:07:52 PM
Hmmm...Even with the end of La Mer, Images and Jeux to reckon with? :o

  Considering thiose 2 pieces you are right. But I was thinking solely about Pelleas et Melisande. Now that wins the award for mellowest opera ever composed.

  marvin
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Post by: snyprrr on July 07, 2014, 08:33:36 AM
Mompou?
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer? T.A.K.E.M.I.T.S.U.
Post by: snyprrr on July 07, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
It was just brought to my attention- TAKEMITSU ftw- hands down, there IS NO Composer even close. For those of you who picked Debussy, keep in mind that takemitsu is Debussy with ALL the testosterone drained out. Takemitsu's Your Man.
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Post by: Henk on July 07, 2014, 08:44:43 AM
Satie definitely not. Debussy and Delius indeed. Albinoni. Bach's Goldberg Variations.

I agree with Feldman as well, in the most positive sense.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer? T.A.K.E.M.I.T.S.U.
Post by: Henk on July 07, 2014, 08:54:20 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on July 07, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
It was just brought to my attention- TAKEMITSU ftw- hands down, there IS NO Composer even close. For those of you who picked Debussy, keep in mind that takemitsu is Debussy with ALL the testosterone drained out. Takemitsu's Your Man.

I think you have missed the "Zen factor" in his works.
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: Henk on July 07, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
With meditation one doesn't get into Zen. With Takemitsu one does.
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Post by: mn dave on July 07, 2014, 09:18:53 AM
Quote from: Henk on July 07, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
With meditation one doesn't get into Zen. With Takemitsu one does.

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Post by: Henk on July 07, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
Quote from: Mn Dave on July 07, 2014, 09:18:53 AM
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Post by: king ubu on July 07, 2014, 01:08:02 PM
... but who wants mellow when you can get edgy?
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Post by: johnshade on July 08, 2014, 02:46:35 PM


Tchaikovsky
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Post by: North Star on July 08, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
Quote from: johnshade on July 08, 2014, 02:46:35 PM

Tchaikovsky
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Yes indeed, the soothing cannons..
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Post by: Brahmsian on July 08, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: North Star on July 08, 2014, 03:58:22 PM
Yes indeed, the soothing cannons..

:D
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on July 09, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
This thread is keeping me up nights.  ;)
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Post by: mn dave on July 09, 2014, 05:13:35 PM
(http://dontdrinkbeer.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/1331105001794.jpg)
Title: Re: Who is the mellowest composer?
Post by: offbeat on July 12, 2014, 04:14:13 AM
anything by finzi and brahms third 8)
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Post by: jochanaan on July 15, 2014, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: offbeat on July 12, 2014, 04:14:13 AM
anything by finzi and brahms third 8)
Can't comment on Finzi's music, but I respectfully disagree about Brahms 3; only the very ending is mellow.  (But many conductors take the first movement too slow for my tastes; it is Allegro con brio, after all.)