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Title: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 03, 2014, 06:50:46 AM
Your favorite 2014 rock albums thus far?  I am sure all these will meet with James's hearty approval

Agalloch - The Serpent and the Sphere
https://www.youtube.com/v/Y7vlH2BPI2k
St Vincent - St Vincent
https://www.youtube.com/v/PUYz1J-WkV4
Swans - To be Kind
https://www.youtube.com/v/vfmi0v5vIGo
Triptykon - Melana Chasmata
https://www.youtube.com/v/Lg9XqcS6TfU
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: snyprrr on July 03, 2014, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on July 03, 2014, 06:50:46 AM
Your favorite 2014 rock albums thus far?  I am sure all these will meet with James's hearty approval

Agalloch - The Serpent and the Sphere
https://www.youtube.com/v/Y7vlH2BPI2k
St Vincent - St Vincent
https://www.youtube.com/v/PUYz1J-WkV4
Swans - To be Kind
https://www.youtube.com/v/vfmi0v5vIGo
Triptykon - Melana Chasmata
https://www.youtube.com/v/Lg9XqcS6TfU

Oh great. :( It's 1989 all over again. What a great... year. :(

I think we need some clarification. "Rock" is now part of "Country", since I certainly heard no "Rock Drums" in any of those samples. If you hear (God forbid) some new Country Music, you will hear Rock Drums. What you have there is NewWaveProgRock,... which,... mm,... no, it wasn't "Rock". I wasn't "Rockin'" to any of those clips, which sounded almost like Til Tuesday-meets-Butthole Surfers (hence the 1989). I mean, shouldn't someone be playing like Fripp by now?

Sincerely, I ask, What was the Last Big Rock Song? And if you say Nickleback you'll have proved my point. And please, make it an easy song that people who stopped caring in 1995.

What's that sonny?... (geezer)

ROCK MUSIC HAS LOST ITS BALLS JUST LIKE THE REST OF AMERICA. :( WTF?- now that DeathMetal bands don't have Bush to write horror lyrics about- wtf??? this guy isn't as satanic as the rest of them? Are Metal bands just a bunch of wah wahs who need corporate dollars- .... sorry, ranting.... will compose myself...

FUUUU- MUSIC SUUUCKS RIGHT NOW IS THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. SERIOUSLY PEOPLE.

Where is there one Act out there "tearing down the walls" and blah blah? Where's fuckin RATM- oh woo woo - they're a bunch of obama lovers so they got de-clawed. Fuck all that pussy shit. I thought AT LEAST all those fuckheads had the balls to expose EVERYONE, but no. No songs about Sidic Organ harvestin... no songs about bankers, the rich, or any kosh topic at all, no muzzz (starting to sound like David Allen Coe)... how can you have the Perfect Rock nRoll Song without ANY BALLS AT ALL??????

WHERE ARE THE SUPER BALLS IN MUSIC? And I don't mean riffs, I mean Content.


It's cause Those Who Run the Industry apparently find it doesn't suit them, and they are now the true badasses of the world, the fucks who dish out exactly what we're going to hear and see and read and what else. Rock Stars are now passe, they served their purpose of ushering in the behemoth of cultural horror that now befalls us, and they are all now MIA. Fuck _ excuse me-Pete Townsend could you please write some flippin songs with lyrics to set the world on ear???? No??? To busy, I see.


POPULAR MUSIC = Didn't Do Shit to Keep What's Happening from Happening

All Popular Music now is already pre-screened for ANY non-State Approved Content, prolly has been since... since... since... (I'm waiting)...


THANK GOD? ROGER WATERS IS THE ONLY ONE WHO STILL HAS SOME PRICKS TO KICK. Perhaps you consider boycotting divesting and sanctioning...
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 03, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
Good lord, man. Give it up.  :D

My picks from this year so far:

Slough Feg: Digital Resistance
Skullfist: Chasing the Dream
Grand Magus: Triumph and Power
Black Lips: Underneath the Rainbow
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 03, 2014, 05:47:24 PM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on July 03, 2014, 06:50:46 AM
I am sure all these will meet with James's hearty approval

How adolescent of you!
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 03, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
QuoteWHERE ARE THE SUPER BALLS IN MUSIC? And I don't mean riffs, I mean Content.
The whole post was complete confusion (as usual), but you've outdone yourself here.
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: Ken B on July 03, 2014, 07:12:33 PM
Quote from: James on July 03, 2014, 05:59:55 PM
;D

Seriously though ;), one of the things I love about life is the learning, growing & evolving part. Without referencing anyone in particular here .. I feel sorry for folks that are tied to mainly pop music forms & trends (mostly of their youth, or to recapture it in a sentimental or nostalgic sense, or to try to be "hip" .. ugh.) not fully understanding or realizing the overall benefits of knowing and experiencing what a great art form can be and do.

I see it as the hand of a benevolent god. Most people discover the very best music all the globe and all of history has to offer being played on the radio just as they enter grade 9, and so they can rest content listening just to that, and little else, for decades, knowing they are missing out on nothing.
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on July 03, 2014, 11:15:08 PM
From what I've observed, I don't think many people in their teens or 20s (or younger) give a damn about music, even manufactured Top 40 crap. It seems that video will trump audio any day of the week. And, nothing can possibly compete with a handheld device that gives you 24/7/365 up-to-the-second information on the latest tattoo on Beyonce's ass, Justin Beeber's latest girlfriend, or Kardashian's new diet. OMG, did u hear beyonce's sister kicked JayZ in da elavter LOL?
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 04, 2014, 04:01:15 AM
You really think the stuff the OP posted is being played on the radio?  :D

Many anti-rock comments here are off the mark! And I'm sure most anyone posting in this forum is well acquainted with exploring all types of music deeply, so no use insulting anyone on that point; these are just troll insults and get rather boring after a while. Consider the source, I guess.  :P

Anyway, I think you can love a genre of music, any music, strictly for its melody and its timbre and the way it makes you feel, the way an individual's brain reacts to specific sounds (like a distorted guitar for instance). I swear, some people who profess to love music don't seem to like it at all and treat it strictly as an intellectual exercise. *yawn*
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 04, 2014, 04:06:23 AM
and does James think kids still listen to radio?  I don't think my daughter knows a single local station
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 04, 2014, 04:10:26 AM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on July 04, 2014, 04:06:23 AM
and does James think kids still listen to radio?  I don't think my daughter knows a single local station

I know. These comments are sooo 1970's...or something.
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: kishnevi on July 04, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: Greg on July 03, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
The whole post was complete confusion (as usual), but you've outdone yourself here.

He does have one point I am in qualified agreement with.  Country has morphed over the years,  to the point musically it has a lot in common with rock of 20-30 years ago. (Lyrics it has not.) Indie and other forms of rock meanwhile have changed into something that draws on several genres,  only one of which is classic rock.
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: milk on July 04, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: James on July 04, 2014, 02:15:53 PM
I don't hear much difference with the "country" crap that was around 20 or 30 years ago .. who the fuck buys this shit? Ditto "indie" etc. rock crap.
That's a pretty broad sweep. I do think popular music has been on the decline (I consider punk, progressive, metal etc. all some kind of popular music just for simplicity's sake) since the 70s and the decline has been really steep since the mid-90s. But there's still some good stuff here and there - though I don't know anything from this year. I'm still hoping popular music as counter-culture can make some kind of comeback. But it depends on whether there is any resistance left. 

I have a different sense of time with classical. For classical, 1970 is like yesterday. For rock, it's too long ago.


I don't know about 2014 but some OK stuff from the past decade or so:

https://www.youtube.com/v/ylrmS6ayKv8
https://www.youtube.com/v/4uFEOBJBiWg
https://www.youtube.com/v/5VeIL7juFE0
https://www.youtube.com/v/7iWMESVD5D4

Here was an artist (but it was a long time ago already):
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/magazine/i-am-the-real-nick-cave.html
   
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 04, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on July 04, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
He does have one point I am in qualified agreement with.  Country has morphed over the years,  to the point musically it has a lot in common with rock of 20-30 years ago. (Lyrics it has not.) Indie and other forms of rock meanwhile have changed into something that draws on several genres,  only one of which is classic rock.
Country nowadays sounds like terrible pop rock with a twangy singer and steel guitar in the background.
What I was wondering was what he was referring to as "rock losing its balls," making it sounds like the only thing that gave rock its "balls" was the lyrical content, mainly being about protesting a leader or something. And of course in the meantime dismissing the many death metal bands who still play with that subject matter in their lyrical content (but who really cares about lyrics, anyways?)

I have no idea what the popular rock stuff is today... the furthest I'll go is checking out the newest Tool album which supposedly could come out this year (though at this point I don't even trust band member confirmations). The "rock" music I like is technically rock, but doesn't feel like it at all, anyways...
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: milk on July 04, 2014, 07:15:03 PM
Quote from: Greg on July 04, 2014, 05:07:17 PM
Country nowadays sounds like terrible pop rock with a twangy singer and steel guitar in the background.
What I was wondering was what he was referring to as "rock losing its balls," making it sounds like the only thing that gave rock its "balls" was the lyrical content, mainly being about protesting a leader or something. And of course in the meantime dismissing the many death metal bands who still play with that subject matter in their lyrical content (but who really cares about lyrics, anyways?)

I have no idea what the popular rock stuff is today... the furthest I'll go is checking out the newest Tool album which supposedly could come out this year (though at this point I don't even trust band member confirmations). The "rock" music I like is technically rock, but doesn't feel like it at all, anyways...
I lament the loss of exploration...the feeling that something new was happening. Does this generation have something that their parents truly cannot understand?
My parents couldn't have made heads or tails of this:
https://www.youtube.com/v/pC1BA02ID1Q
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/v/8wGpW3iKAdU
But maybe there is something or things out there to find if I look harder.
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: milk on July 04, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: James on July 03, 2014, 05:59:55 PM
;D

Seriously though ;), one of the things I love about life is the learning, growing & evolving part. Without referencing anyone in particular here .. I feel sorry for folks that are tied to mainly pop music forms & trends (mostly of their youth, or to recapture it in a sentimental or nostalgic sense, or to try to be "hip" .. ugh.) not fully understanding or realizing the overall benefits of knowing and experiencing what a great art form can be and do.
I feel sorry for slum-dwellers and people with terminal illnesses. People who disagree with my musical tastes? Not so much.
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 05, 2014, 04:43:29 AM
Quote from: milk on July 04, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
I feel sorry for slum-dwellers and people with terminal illnesses. People who disagree with my musical tastes? Not so much.

:)
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: bwv 1080 on July 07, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
It's not 1969 or 1979, why hold rock to the impossibly high standard of trangressing a homogenized consumer culture that does not exist anymore? It's like dismissing all 20th century music because it's not as 'important' as Beethoven's 9th.  There is interesting music out there for those with a open mind
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 07, 2014, 10:01:23 AM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on July 07, 2014, 10:00:00 AM
It's not 1969 or 1979, why hold rock to the impossibly high standard of trangressing a homogenized consumer culture that does not exist anymore? It's like dismissing all 20th century music because it's not as 'important' as Beethoven's 9th.  There is interesting music out there for those with a open mind

Dismissers gonna dismiss...
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 08, 2014, 06:03:23 AM
New Judas Priest album today.  ;D
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: Henk on July 08, 2014, 06:07:37 AM
Yes, I noticed. What are your expectations?
Title: Re: rock aint dead - favorite 2014 releases (so far)
Post by: mn dave on July 08, 2014, 06:08:48 AM
Quote from: Henk on July 08, 2014, 06:07:37 AM
Yes, I noticed. What are your expectations?

That I will play it loudly.  0:)