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Title: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on May 30, 2015, 09:59:03 AM
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 9 (defiantly staring death in the face)
Hilding Rosenberg: Symphony 2 'Sinfonia Grave' conclusion
Mussorgsky: Boris Gudunov: Simpleton's Song at the end (despair for the future of Russia)
Allan Pettersson: Violin Concerto No.2 ( I find the last few minutes unbearably moving)
Bruckner: Symphony 9
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 6, Epilogue
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 2 Epilogue in 1913 version
Vaughan Williams: Pilgrim's Progress (incredibly moving seen live)
Tchaikovsky: Pathetique Symphony, especially last movement.
Mahler: Symphony 9
Miaskovsky: Symphony 6 ( especially nostalgic Trio section of Scherzo)
Shostakovich Symphony 15.


Prob too much VW.

Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Christo on May 30, 2015, 10:31:30 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on May 30, 2015, 09:59:03 AMProb too much VW.

Not at all, and let me proof it:  ;)

Vaughan Williams, Andante sostenuto (second movement) from Symphony No. 9 - for reasons stated already by Jeffrey.
Vaughan Williams, Symphony No.6, especially the Epilogue - too
Shostakovich, Symphony No. 15 - for similar reasons
Arnold, Symphony No. 9 - also especially the half hour lasting Finale
Nielsen, Symphony No. 6 'slowly desintegrating'- according to Robert Simpsons' famous interpretation of it, and I tend to agree
Howells, the elegiac Hymnus Paradisi as a whole
Holst, The Hymn of Jesus
Ravel, Le Tombeau de Couperin
Bliss, Morning Heroes
Vaughan Williams, A Pastoral Symphony
Tubin, Symphony No. 6 - all five (Holst, Ravel, Bliss, RVW, Tubin) war pieces, the composer mourning personal losses
Avetissyan, Oratorio 'in memoriam 1915'
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on May 30, 2015, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: Christo on May 30, 2015, 10:31:30 AM
Not at all, and let me proof it:  ;)

Vaughan Williams, Andante sostenuto (second movement) from Symphony No. 9 - for reasons stated already by Jeffrey.
Vaughan Williams, Symphony No.6, especially the Epilogue - too
Shostakovich, Symphony No. 15 - for similar reasons
Arnold, Symphony No. 9 - also especially the half hour lasting Finale
Nielsen, Symphony No. 6 'slowly desintegrating'- according to Robert Simpsons' famous interpretation of it, and I tend to agree
Howells, the elegiac Hymnus Paradisi as a whole
Holst, The Hymn of Jesus
Ravel, Le Tombeau de Couperin
Bliss, Morning Heroes
Vaughan Williams, A Pastoral Symphony
Tubin, Symphony No. 6 - all five (Holst, Ravel, Bliss, RVW, Tubin) war pieces, the composer mourning personal losses
Avetissyan, Oratorio 'in memoriam 1915'

What a super list. Without doubt I should have included Hymnus Paradisi as well - the final section is overwhelming especially in view of the circumstances of the work's creation. The return of the 'cannon fire' from the Somme at the end of Bliss's 'Morning Heroes' is also incredibly moving and, of course, Bliss lost his brother in the war. Bliss has been damned with faint praise by those who suggest that the most memorable thing he wrote was the March from 'Things to Come' - this is absolute rubbish as far as I'm concerned. I'm still looking for the Avetissyan work but without much success. Must listen to Arnold's Ninth again - an extraordinary work. Suk's 'Asrael' Symphony is another work I find very moving. I agree about the Nielsen too, increasingly I regard this as his greatest work and worthy to stand alongside the most tragic utterances of Shostakovich.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 30, 2015, 06:46:15 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on May 30, 2015, 09:59:03 AM
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 9 (defiantly staring death in the face)
Hilding Rosenberg: Symphony 2 'Sinfonia Grave' conclusion
Mussorgsky: Boris Gudunov: Simpleton's Song at the end (despair for the future of Russia)
Allan Pettersson: Violin Concerto No.2 ( I find the last few minutes unbearably moving)
Bruckner: Symphony 9
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 6, Epilogue
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 2 Epilogue in 1913 version
Vaughan Williams: Pilgrim's Progress (incredibly moving seen live)
Tchaikovsky: Pathetique Symphony, especially last movement.
Mahler: Symphony 9
Miaskovsky: Symphony 6 ( especially nostalgic Trio section of Scherzo)
Shostakovich Symphony 15.


Prob too much VW.

Great choices, Jeffrey. My turn:

Sibelius: Symphony No. 4 in A minor
Sibelius: The Tempest
RVW: Flos Campi
Shostakovich: Violin Concerto No. 1
Barber: Cello Concerto
Pettersson: Symphony No. 7
Tippett: A Child of Our Time
Honegger: Symphony No. 3 "Symphonie Liturgique"
Koechlin: Le buisson ardent, Part II
Casella: Sinfonia "Symphony No. 3"
Stanford: The Bluebird
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Ken B on May 30, 2015, 08:41:36 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on May 30, 2015, 09:59:03 AM
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 9 (defiantly staring death in the face)
Hilding Rosenberg: Symphony 2 'Sinfonia Grave' conclusion
Mussorgsky: Boris Gudunov: Simpleton's Song at the end (despair for the future of Russia)
Allan Pettersson: Violin Concerto No.2 ( I find the last few minutes unbearably moving)
Bruckner: Symphony 9
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 6, Epilogue
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 2 Epilogue in 1913 version
Vaughan Williams: Pilgrim's Progress (incredibly moving seen live)
Tchaikovsky: Pathetique Symphony, especially last movement.
Mahler: Symphony 9
Miaskovsky: Symphony 6 ( especially nostalgic Trio section of Scherzo)
Shostakovich Symphony 15.


Prob too much VW.

Better than too much Elgar.  ;)
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 30, 2015, 09:11:14 PM
Quote from: Ken B on May 30, 2015, 08:41:36 PM
Better than too much Elgar.  ;)

Wise cracks aside, we still don't have a list from you, Ken. :)
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Ken B on May 30, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 30, 2015, 09:11:14 PM
Wise cracks aside, we still don't have a list from you, Ken. :)

Much depends on what you mean by moving. Physically exciting, and adrenalating?  Then Profit and Loss by Nyman. If a beautiful setting and embodiment of a poem then The Feast of Love by Thomson. If an emotional flow then Sibelius 7. If emotionally rewarding and intellectually engaging then check my listening to section. Mind-bendingly beautiful then some Palestrina, Glass, Nyman. Breathtaking moments, I have to count the reprise at the end of the Goldbergs. Entrancing, then Bach's great A minor P&F for organ. And Die Schöne Müllerin somewhere.

Gruppen can get me out of my seat, and out of the room. Does that count?
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on May 31, 2015, 12:16:07 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 30, 2015, 06:46:15 PM
Great choices, Jeffrey. My turn:

Sibelius: Symphony No. 4 in A minor
Sibelius: The Tempest
RVW: Flos Campi
Shostakovich: Violin Concerto No. 1
Barber: Cello Concerto
Pettersson: Symphony No. 7
Tippett: A Child of Our Time
Honegger: Symphony No. 3 "Symphonie Liturgique"
Koechlin: Le buisson ardent, Part II
Casella: Sinfonia "Symphony No. 3"
Stanford: The Bluebird
An extremely interesting list John. I also like Casella symphonies 2 and 3 and the Koechlin work. I don't know the Stanford at all so must look it out. The very end of Tippet's A Child of Our Time (Deep River) I find incredibly moving too. Also the end of Honegger's 'Liturgique' especially in the Karajan DGG recording. Barber's Cello Concerto is excellent too. In some ways I prefer it to his other concertos. I find his 'Knoxville' very moving too.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on May 31, 2015, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: Ken B on May 30, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Much depends on what you mean by moving. Physically exciting, and adrenalating?  Then Profit and Loss by Nyman. If a beautiful setting and embodiment of a poem then The Feast of Love by Thomson. If an emotional flow then Sibelius 7. If emotionally rewarding and intellectually engaging then check my listening to section. Mind-bendingly beautiful then some Palestrina, Glass, Nyman. Breathtaking moments, I have to count the reprise at the end of the Goldbergs. Entrancing, then Bach's great A minor P&F for organ. And Die Schöne Müllerin somewhere.

Gruppen can get me out of my seat, and out of the room. Does that count?
V good point about what is meant by 'moving'; for me I meant in terms of an emotional (in a positive sense!) reaction to particular pieces of music.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Mirror Image on May 31, 2015, 05:23:04 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on May 31, 2015, 12:16:07 AM
An extremely interesting list John. I also like Casella symphonies 2 and 3 and the Koechlin work. I don't know the Stanford at all so must look it out. The very end of Tippet's A Child of Our Time (Deep River) I find incredibly moving too. Also the end of Honegger's 'Liturgique' especially in the Karajan DGG recording. Barber's Cello Concerto is excellent too. In some ways I prefer it to his other concertos. I find his 'Knoxville' very moving too.

Thanks, Jeffrey. The Stanford work is just a short piece (around 3 minutes) for a cappella chorus. Here it is if you want to take a listen:

https://www.youtube.com/v/UNdeCzrdnpE
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: NJ Joe on June 01, 2015, 04:51:07 PM
Okay, I did this by listing the first 12 works that popped into my head.  Warning you in advance, some of these are terribly cliched.

Mussorgsky - Pictures (both piano and orch Ravel). 
Sibelius - Symphony No. 7
Schubert - Unfinished
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
Bartok - MFSPAC
RVW - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
Bruckner - Symphony No. 8
Stravinsky - The Firebird
Mozart - Gran Partita
Bach - Goldberg Variations
Chopin - Nocturnes
Tallis - Spem In Alium
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Cato on June 01, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
Quote from: NJ Joe on June 01, 2015, 04:51:07 PM
Okay, I did this by listing the first 12 works that popped into my head.  Warning you in advance, some of these are terribly cliched.

Mussorgsky - Pictures (both piano and orch Ravel). 
Sibelius - Symphony No. 7
Schubert - Unfinished
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
Bartok - MFSPAC
RVW - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
Bruckner - Symphony No. 8
Stravinsky - The Firebird
Mozart - Gran Partita
Bach - Goldberg Variations
Chopin - Nocturnes
Tallis - Spem In Alium

No apologies necessary for the "cliched" works.  The work might have become a cliche,' but that (I would think) is not the fault of the work, but of others imitating the piece, or using it in ways never intended by the composer, e.g. Schubert's Unfinished as music for 1930's horror movies.

A fine list!
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Daverz on June 01, 2015, 08:33:07 PM
Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde.
Bloch: Piano Quintet 1
Shostakovich Symphony 15
Janacek: Cunning Little Vixen
Beethoven: String Quartet Op. 132
Bartok: Bluebeard's Castle
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: North Star on June 01, 2015, 09:45:40 PM
Bach - Passacaglia und Fuge in C minor, BWV 582
Beethoven - String Quartet in c sharp minor, Op. 131
Brahms - Clarinet Trio, Op. 114
Chopin - 3 mazurkas, Op. 63
Janáček - On the Overgrown Path
Prokofiev - Piano Concerto no. 2
Pärt - Cantus in memoriam Benjamin Britten
Rakhmaninov - All-night Vigil
Ravel - Piano Trio
Satie - Socrate
Schubert - String Quartet in G major, D. 877
Sibelius - Symphony no. 5
Silvestrov - Silent Songs
Suk - About Mother
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: EigenUser on June 02, 2015, 01:29:28 AM
The usual suspects from me:
Ligeti's Clocks and Clouds (easily the most moving for me)
Ravel's Introduction and Allegro
Messiaen's Des Canyons aux Etoiles..., slow movement
Faure's Requiem
Feldman's Triadic Memories (could go with a few Feldman works, but I'll pick one for solo piano to mix things up)
Bruckner's Symphony No. 9, adagio
Debussy's Trois Nocturnes, 3rd
Bartok's Piano Concerto No. 2, adagio (those muted stacked fifths!!!)
Ockeghem's Missa Mi-mi
Webern's Six Pieces for Orchestra (creepy and sometimes terrifying, but moving)
Mahler's Symphony No. 9, finale
Schoenberg's Chamber Symphony No. 1
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: TheGSMoeller on June 02, 2015, 03:09:27 AM
Quote from: Ken B on May 30, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Much depends on what you mean by moving. Physically exciting, and adrenalating?  Then Profit and Loss by Nyman. If a beautiful setting and embodiment of a poem then The Feast of Love

+1
M.G.V., Miranda, Chasing Sheep, Noises Sounds & Sweet Air, etc...Nyman is good at physically exciting and adrenalating.

Can't list 12 at the moment, but first ones that come to mind (which proves I always create these lists chronologically)
Byrd: Ye Sacred Muses,
Dowland: Lachrimae
and Monteverdi: Orfeo.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 02, 2015, 05:47:49 AM
Fauré Pavane (especially the version with chorus)
Beethoven Piano Sonata No.8 "Pathétique" second movement Adagio cantabile
Mahler Symphony No.2, first and last movements
Mahler Symphony No.4 third movement Ruhevoll, poco adagio
Mahler Symphony No.6, first movement coda; last movement (with the hammerblows)
Schubert Der Leiermann from Winterreise
Tchaikovsky The Nutcracker Pas de deux
Tchaikovsky Swan Lake Act II No. 10 Scène Moderato; Act IV No. 29 Scène Finale
Havergal Brian Gothic Symphony, third movement Vivace
Sibelius Symphony No.5, last movement
Strauss Eine Alpensinfonie
Berlioz Requiem, Lacrymosa
Wagner Götterdämmerung, Brünnhilde's Immolation Scene

Any Bruckner coda
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on June 02, 2015, 07:09:56 AM
Quote from: NJ Joe on June 01, 2015, 04:51:07 PM
Okay, I did this by listing the first 12 works that popped into my head.  Warning you in advance, some of these are terribly cliched.

Mussorgsky - Pictures (both piano and orch Ravel). 
Sibelius - Symphony No. 7
Schubert - Unfinished
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
Bartok - MFSPAC
RVW - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
Bruckner - Symphony No. 8
Stravinsky - The Firebird
Mozart - Gran Partita
Bach - Goldberg Variations
Chopin - Nocturnes
Tallis - Spem In Alium

I see nothing clichéd here.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Karl Henning on June 03, 2015, 06:42:32 AM
Quote from: NJ Joe on June 01, 2015, 04:51:07 PM
Okay, I did this by listing the first 12 works that popped into my head.  Warning you in advance, some of these are terribly cliched.

Mussorgsky - Pictures (both piano and orch Ravel). 
Sibelius - Symphony No. 7
Schubert - Unfinished
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
Bartok - MFSPAC
RVW - Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
Bruckner - Symphony No. 8
Stravinsky - The Firebird
Mozart - Gran Partita
Bach - Goldberg Variations
Chopin - Nocturnes
Tallis - Spem In Alium

Quote from: Cato on June 01, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
No apologies necessary for the "cliched" works.  The work might have become a cliche,' but that (I would think) is not the fault of the work, but of others imitating the piece, or using it in ways never intended by the composer, e.g. Schubert's Unfinished as music for 1930's horror movies.

A fine list!

+1
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Brahmsian on February 28, 2019, 10:17:01 AM
Tchaikovsky - Symphony No. 5 - intro to the 2nd mvt.
Bruckner - Symphony No. 9 - Adagio
Bruckner - Symphony No. 7 - Adagio
Beethoven - Op. 132 - 3rd mvt.
Schubert - String Quintet in C major - Trio to the Scherzo mvt.
Gorecki - Symphony No. 3 (all of it, but particularly the 2nd mvt.)
Mahler - Symphony No. 6 - Andante moderato
Berlioz - Requiem - Sanctus
Mozart - Great Mass in C minor - Kyrie
Shostakovich - Violin Concerto No. 1 - Passacaglia
Brahms - Piano Concerto No. 1 - Adagio
Bach - St. Matthew Passion - Mache dich, mein Herze, rein
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: ritter on February 28, 2019, 01:04:12 PM
First list (OTTOMH, alphabetically by composer):

- J.S. Bach: Aria "Zerfliesse, mein Herze"  from Johannespassion, BWV 245
- J.S. Bach: Aria "Tief gebückt und voller Reue" from Cantata Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199
- Boulez: Mémoriale ("...explosante-fixe..." originel)
- Debussy: Berceuse héroïque.
- Enescu: Oedipe, Act IV
- Mahler: "Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen" from Rückert-Lieder.
- Mozart: Recitative and aria "Giunse al fin il momento...Deh vieni, non tardar" from Act IV of Le nozze di Fígaro.
- R. Strauss: Orchestral interlude and aria "Wie umgibst du mich mit Frieden" from Act III of Die Liebe der Danae.
- Stravinsky: Requiem Canticles
- Wagner: Parsifal, Act III
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on February 28, 2019, 01:18:20 PM
New list:

Howells: Hymnus Paradisi
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 9 (listening to it now - Andre Previn recording)
Bruckner: Symphony 9
Novak: Christchild's Lullabye from Eight Nocturnes for Voice and Orchestra
Shostakovich: VC No.1 (Passacaglia)
Shostakovich: Symphony 4 (conclusion)
Alan Pettersson: Violin Concerto No.2 (conclusion)
Miaskovsky: Symphony 27
Vaughan Williams: The Pilgrim's Progress
Honegger: Liturgique Symphony (conclusion)
Stanley Bate: Symphony 4
W Dennis Browne: To Gratiana Dancing and Singing (Song)
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Florestan on February 28, 2019, 01:30:37 PM
Otomh, in order of coming and forcing myself to stick to one per composer:

Bach - Schafe können sicher weiden
Mozart - Piano Concerto in C minor
Beethoven - Pathetique Piano Sonata
Schubert - The Great C major Symphony
Chopin - Piano Concerto No. 1
Schumann - Violin Concerto
Brahms - Piano Trio No. 1
Tchaikovsky - Symphony No 5
Rachmaninoff - Piano Concerto No. 2
Bortkiewicz - Symphony No. 1
Enescu - Romanian Rhapsody No. 1
Rimsky-Korsakov - The Angel, Op. 2 No. 2





Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: SymphonicAddict on February 28, 2019, 01:53:01 PM
Interesting topic.

Alwyn - Lyra Angelica
Duruflé - Requiem
Górecki - Symphony No. 3
Korngold - Adagio from the Symphony in F sharp major
Mahler - Symphony No. 9 (IV mov.)
Pärt - Cantus in memoriam Benjamin Britten
Pettersson - Symphony No. 6
Puccini - Madama Butterfly
Schubert - String quintet (especially for the 2nd mov.)
Strauss - Death and Transfiguration
Tallis - Spem in allium
Tchaikovsky - Piano trio
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Brahmsian on February 28, 2019, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: SymphonicAddict on February 28, 2019, 01:53:01 PM

Mahler - Symphony No. 9 (IV mov.)


Oh my...yes.  I cannot believe I forgot about mentioning this one!
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Papy Oli on March 01, 2019, 01:08:04 AM
Pärt - Summa (in any version)
Pärt - Kanon Pokajanen
Tallis - Salve intemerata
Mahler - Adagio 6th
Vaughan Williams - Lento 2nd symphony
Satie - the 3 Gymnopédies in the De Leeuw version
Pergolesi - Stabat mater
Schubert - Arpeggione sonata
Mahler - Ich bin der welt abhanden gekommen
Mahler - Adagietto 5th
Brahms - Ihr Habt nur Traurigkeit (From the German Requiem)
Bruckner - 9th symphony
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: NikF4 on March 01, 2019, 02:28:28 AM
I'll play. And if no one minds, the definition of 'moving' I choose to adopt will include emotionally moving and provoking. Also, in almost a vicarious sense seeing how a piece touches another person and so moves me in turn.
In no particular order -.

Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 1 - Adagio.
Chopin: Piano Concerto No. 1 - romanze larghetto.
Chopin: Nocturne Op. 62/1.
Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet.
Ravel: Piano Trio.
Shostakovich - Symphony No. 10 in E minor.
Mahler: 6.
Debussy: La fille aux cheveux de lin.
Gershwin: Porgy and Bess (I Loves You, Porgy).
Barber: String Quartet in B minor - molto adagio. I've known two different women to cry during that second movement. Then again, it might just have been a reaction of prolonged exposure to my company. ;D
RVW: A London Symphony - 1914 (longer version?)
Bartok: Piano Concerto No.3.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on March 01, 2019, 01:58:42 PM
Interesting and thought provoking replies - thank you.
:)
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Maestro267 on March 04, 2019, 10:36:04 AM
Mahler: Symphony No. 2
Tchaikovsky: Manfred
Strauss: Tod und Verklärung
Gliére: Symphony No. 3
Elgar: Symphony No. 2
Lloyd: Symphony No. 12
Puccini: Turandot
Glazunov: Symphony No. 5
Prokofiev: Romeo and Juliet
Wagner: Götterdämmerung
Bax: Symphony No. 4
Vaughan Williams: A Sea Symphony
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Christo on March 05, 2019, 12:52:07 AM
Quote from: Christo on May 30, 2015, 10:31:30 AM
Not at all, and let me proof it:  ;)

Vaughan Williams, Andante sostenuto (second movement) from Symphony No. 9 - for reasons stated already by Jeffrey.
Vaughan Williams, Symphony No.6, especially the Epilogue - too
Shostakovich, Symphony No. 15 - for similar reasons
Arnold, Symphony No. 9 - also especially the half hour lasting Finale
Nielsen, Symphony No. 6 'slowly desintegrating'- according to Robert Simpsons' famous interpretation of it, and I tend to agree
Howells, the elegiac Hymnus Paradisi as a whole
Holst, The Hymn of Jesus
Ravel, Le Tombeau de Couperin
Bliss, Morning Heroes
Vaughan Williams, A Pastoral Symphony
Tubin, Symphony No. 6 - all five (Holst, Ravel, Bliss, RVW, Tubin) war pieces, the composer mourning personal losses
Avetissyan, Oratorio 'in memoriam 1915'

Let me add a few I forgot, last time, starting with four pieces for (double) strings from the same years and with a similar 'message':

Bartók, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta
Martinů, Double Concerto
Tippett, Concerto for Double String Orchestra
Vaughan Williams, Partita for Double String Orchestra

Barber, Knoxville: Summer of 1915
Bate, Symphony No. 4
Ešenvalds, Tāls Ceļš (Long Road)
Górecki, Symphony No. 3 'of Sorrowful Songs'
Mozart, KV 466
Pärt, Te Deum & Kanon Pokajanen
Tormis, Unustatud rahvad (Forgotten Peoples)
Vasks, Tālā Gaisma (Distant Light)
Vaughan Williams, An Oxford Elegy
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on March 05, 2019, 05:16:43 AM
Quote from: Christo on March 05, 2019, 12:52:07 AM
Let me add a few I forgot, last time, starting with four pieces for (double) strings from the same years and with a similar 'message':

Bartók, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta
Martinů, Double Concerto
Tippett, Concerto for Double String Orchestra
Vaughan Williams, Partita for Double String Orchestra

Barber, Knoxville: Summer of 1915
Bate, Symphony No. 4
Ešenvalds, Tāls Ceļš (Long Road)
Górecki, Symphony No. 3 'of Sorrowful Songs'
Mozart, KV 466
Pärt, Te Deum & Kanon Pokajanen
Tormis, Unustatud rahvad (Forgotten Peoples)
Vasks, Tālā Gaisma (Distant Light)
Vaughan Williams, An Oxford Elegy
Agree with most of these. Yes, An Oxford Elegy is a very poignant, sad and moving score: 'The light we sought is shining still...' etc.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: André on March 05, 2019, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 01, 2019, 01:08:04 AM
Pärt - Summa (in any version)
Pärt - Kanon Pokajanen
Tallis - Salve intemerata
Mahler - Adagio 6th
Vaughan Williams - Lento 2nd symphony
Satie - the 3 Gymnopédies in the De Leeuw version
Pergolesi - Stabat mater
Schubert - Arpeggione sonata
Mahler - Ich bin der welt abhanden gekommen
Mahler - Adagietto 5th
Brahms - Ihr Habt nur Traurigkeit (From the German Requiem)
Bruckner - 9th symphony

Sublime !
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Iota on March 05, 2019, 01:10:06 PM
Probably very cliched. Today's list anyway.

Bach - St Matthew Passion, opening chorus (Rene Jacobs, Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin)
Wagner - Mild und leise  (Flagstad/Furtwangler) Probably the first classical music I was aware of. I heard it floating up the stairs as I lay in bed as an 8/9-year-old, and felt it revealed sth fundamental to me about life, though quite what I'm not sure - that desperate beauty and pain can be very close on the emotional spectrum perhaps? - and it just became a kind of musical bedrock for me. It's one of the few times I listen to a historic recording these days.
Bruckner - Symphony No.7, 2nd movement
Britten - String Quartet No.1 (Sorrel Quartet)
Britten - 'From the gutter, why should we trouble at their ribaldries?', Peter Grimes
Mahler   - Symphony No.9, Finale
Mahler  - Symphony No.3,  last movement (only really Boulez/VPO, or an off air Abbado/Lucerne Festival Orchestra recording from the 2008 Proms)
Mahler   - Symphony No.10,  Adagio
Wagner - Die Meistersinger Overture
Sibelius - Symphony No.7 (currently Vanska/Minnesota)
Beethoven  - Symphony No.9
Vaughan Williams  - Symphony No.5, Romanza
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: vandermolen on March 06, 2019, 12:05:25 AM
Quote from: Iota on March 05, 2019, 01:10:06 PM
Probably very cliched. Today's list anyway.

Bach - St Matthew Passion, opening chorus (Rene Jacobs, Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin)
Wagner - Mild und leise  (Flagstad/Furtwangler) Probably the first classical music I was aware of. I heard it floating up the stairs as I lay in bed as an 8/9-year-old, and felt it revealed sth fundamental to me about life, though quite what I'm not sure - that desperate beauty and pain can be very close on the emotional spectrum perhaps? - and it just became a kind of musical bedrock for me. It's one of the few times I listen to a historic recording these days.
Bruckner - Symphony No.7, 2nd movement
Britten - String Quartet No.1 (Sorrel Quartet)
Britten - 'From the gutter, why should we trouble at their ribaldries?', Peter Grimes
Mahler   - Symphony No.9, Finale
Mahler  - Symphony No.3,  last movement (only really Boulez/VPO, or an off air Abbado/Lucerne Festival Orchestra recording from the 2008 Proms)
Mahler   - Symphony No.10,  Adagio
Wagner - Die Meistersinger Overture
Sibelius - Symphony No.7 (currently Vanska/Minnesota)
Beethoven  - Symphony No.9
Vaughan Williams  - Symphony No.5, Romanza
Great list. Not cliched at all.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Wanderer on March 06, 2019, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Iota on March 05, 2019, 01:10:06 PM
Britten - 'From the gutter, why should we trouble at their ribaldries?', Peter Grimes

That's a particularly good one.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: schnittkease on March 06, 2019, 05:14:22 PM
Bach: Cello Suites
Beethoven: String Quartet #15 - Heiliger Dankgesang
Brahms: 3 Intermezzos, op. 117
Debussy: Preludes
Glass: Violin Concerto #1 - 2nd movement
Honegger: Symphony #3 'Liturgique' - conclusion
Rautavaara: Piano Concerto #1 - 1st, 2nd movements
Schnittke: Cello Concerto #1 - 4th movement
Schnittke: Choir Concerto
Schubert: Piano Sonata #21 - 1st, 2nd movements
Schubert: String Quintet - 1st, 2nd movements
Shostakovich: String Quartet #15
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Crudblud on March 07, 2019, 12:11:19 AM
Initially I tried to have only one entry per composer, mainly to prevent Mahler from dominating, since I think at my laziest I could easily have picked nothing but movements from his symphonies, but that would have made for a rather boring list. So here is the hopefully not boring list, in no particular order.

Ives - "General William Booth Enters into Heaven"
Ives - Fugue from Symphony No. 4
Mahler - Symphony No. 8 finale, from "Komm! hebe dich zu höhern Sphären" onward
Mahler - Kindertotenlieder
Stravinsky - Requiem Canticles
Schoenberg - "O alter Duft" from Pierrot Lunaire
Beethoven - Große Fuge
Ravel - La valse
Messiaen - Act III from St. François d'Assise
Froberger - Allemande from Méditation sur ma morte future
Webern - Sechs Stücke für großes Orchester (Op. 6)
Bach arr. Webern - Ricercar a 6
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: ritter on March 07, 2019, 02:59:50 AM
Quote from: Crudblud on March 07, 2019, 12:11:19 AM
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Mahler - Symphony No. 8 finale, from "Komm! hebe dich zu höhern Sphären" onward
...
Great choice there...I'm not that keen on the Eighth as a whole, but that finale, exactly from that point you mention, is simply sublime and moving. In my case, it also has some personal connotations: when I was a young boy, and my dad would be driving us around a city or in the country, whenever he wanted us to notice some particular landmark or view, he'd say "Blicket auf! Blicket auf!"  :)

Quote from: Crudblud on March 07, 2019, 12:11:19 AM
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Stravinsky - Requiem Canticles
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That makes two of us!  ;)

Not a boring list in the least, Crudblud.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: amw on March 07, 2019, 03:27:01 AM
Schubert - Die schöne Müllerin
Schubert - Piano Sonata in B-flat D960 (mostly the 2nd movement)
Schubert - String Quartet in A minor D804
Beethoven - String Quartet in B-flat Op.130 - Cavatina
Brahms - Variations on a Theme by Robert Schumann Op.9
Brahms - Violin Sonata in G Op.78
Feldman - Neither
Mendelssohn - Lied ohne Worte Op.67 no.2
Schumann - Kerner Liederreihe, Op.35
Schumann - Frauenliebe und -leben Op.42 - depending on the singer I guess, I'm picky with mezzos
Cage - 103
Sibelius - Symphony No.6 Op.104
Dvořák - String Quintet in E-flat Op.97 - Larghetto
Finnissy - English Country-Tunes

That's more than 12 but whatever
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: NikF4 on March 07, 2019, 03:59:37 AM
Quote from: amw on March 07, 2019, 03:27:01 AM
Schubert - Die schöne Müllerin
Schubert - Piano Sonata in B-flat D960 (mostly the 2nd movement)
Schubert - String Quartet in A minor D804
Beethoven - String Quartet in B-flat Op.130 - Cavatina
Brahms - Variations on a Theme by Robert Schumann Op.9
Brahms - Violin Sonata in G Op.78
Feldman - Neither
Mendelssohn - Lied ohne Worte Op.67 no.2
Schumann - Kerner Liederreihe, Op.35
Schumann - Frauenliebe und -leben Op.42 - depending on the singer I guess, I'm picky with mezzos
Cage - 103
Sibelius - Symphony No.6 Op.104
Dvořák - String Quintet in E-flat Op.97 - Larghetto
Finnissy - English Country-Tunes

That's more than 12 but whatever

As much as I don't particularly enjoy lists (or even having favourites) Brahms is probably who I listen to more than any other composer. But this piece is one that still eludes me.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Crudblud on March 07, 2019, 05:40:18 AM
Quote from: ritter on March 07, 2019, 02:59:50 AM
Great choice there...I'm not that keen on the Eighth as a whole, but that finale, exactly from that point you mention, is simply sublime and moving. In my case, it also has some personal connotations: when I was a young boy, and my dad would be driving us around a city or in the country, whenever he wanted us to notice some particular landmark or view, he'd say "Blicket auf! Blicket auf!"  :)
I do love the 8th, as I love all Mahler's symphonies, but from the brief appearance of Mater Gloriosa it seems to transcend itself. But you know, on a different day I might have picked the 6th, 4th, 2nd; any, really.

That's a nice anecdote, by the way. I don't have really have any memories involving my parents and classical music, but we had a lot of cassette tapes when I was little. I would hear Mozart, Beethoven, Verdi, Chopin, Tchaikovsky and the like very often, and we had some BBC Proms compilations as well—I remember sitting on the floor imagining scenes to accompany the different sections in Rhapsody in Blue. I didn't discover Mahler until I was in my early twenties, and he—for some reason, perhaps their proximity as romantics, perhaps their famed symphonic outputs, and perhaps most stupidly the "ah"—had become connected in my mind with Brahms, who I found turgid. Of course, the best way to remedy such misconceptions is to listen to the music, and gradually Mahler became for me an indispensable composer.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Mirror Image on March 07, 2019, 06:12:37 AM
Time to update my list, but keeping with a one work per composer type of list (in no particular order):

Debussy: Préludes, Livre I
Ravel: Miroirs
Bartók: Piano Concerto No. 3
Fauré: Piano Quintet No. 2 in C minor, Op. 115
Stravinsky: Apollon musagète
Barber: Violin Concerto
Szymanowski: Litany to the Virgin Mary
Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde
Janáček: String Quartet No. 2, "Intimate Letters"
Duruflé: Requiem, Op. 9
Rachmaninov: Trio élégiaque No. 2 in D minor, Op. 9
Poulenc: Oboe Sonata
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: NikF4 on March 07, 2019, 06:53:06 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 07, 2019, 06:12:37 AM
Time to update my list, but keeping with a one work per composer type of list (in no particular order):

Debussy: Préludes, Livre I
Ravel: Miroirs
Bartók: Piano Concerto No. 3
Fauré: Piano Quintet in C minor, Op. 115
Stravinsky: Apollon musagète
Barber: Violin Concerto
Szymanowski: Litany to the Virgin Mary
Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde
Janáček: String Quartet No. 2, "Intimate Letters"
Duruflé: Requiem, Op. 9
Rachmaninov: Trio élégiaque No. 2 in D minor, Op. 9
Poulenc: Oboe Sonata

Even after a somewhat cursory glance that certainly seems a moving selection, mate.
I don't know the Durufle, but I'll check it out.  8)
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Mirror Image on March 07, 2019, 07:01:07 AM
Quote from: NikF4 on March 07, 2019, 06:53:06 AM
Even after a somewhat cursory glance that certainly seems a moving selection, mate.
I don't know the Durufle, but I'll check it out.  8)

Thanks, Nik. All of these works have meant a lot to me and you could say I've finally been able to fine tune the list after much thought. My tastes continue to evolve with many composers I once adored only having a minimal impact on me these days while others, who I probably liked much less, coming into the foreground. I'd say that refinement in taste seems to be what has happened overall. Yes, do check out the Duruflé! If you can, please listen to the Matthew Best performance on Hyperion. That is my own personal favorite.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: NikF4 on March 07, 2019, 07:10:17 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 07, 2019, 07:01:07 AM
Thanks, Nik. All of these works have meant a lot to me and you could say I've finally been able to fine tune the list after much thought. My tastes continue to evolve with many composers I once adored only having a minimal impact on me these days while others, who I probably liked much less, coming into the foreground. I'd say that refinement in taste seems to be what has happened overall. Yes, do check out the Duruflé! If you can, please listen to the Matthew Best performance on Hyperion. That is my own personal favorite.

I'll try to make it that performance - thanks for the recommendation.

Yeah, generally speaking, when it comes to matters of 'taste' I find despite all the talk of good/bad it's more valuable (not to say rewarding) to invest in identifying, developing and then refining one's taste. We all move forward or at least should seek to do so.   8)

e: more exacty, whenever possible we should seek to move forward in all ways.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: SymphonicAddict on March 07, 2019, 11:18:00 AM
Quote from: schnittkease on March 06, 2019, 05:14:22 PM
Schnittke: Cello Concerto #1 - 4th movement
Shostakovich: String Quartet #15

How I could forget these!
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: amw on March 07, 2019, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: NikF4 on March 07, 2019, 03:59:37 AM
As much as I don't particularly enjoy lists (or even having favourites) Brahms is probably who I listen to more than any other composer. But this piece is one that still eludes me.
An intimate knowledge of Schumann's piano works (including some fairly obscure ones) may be necessary to fully appreciate it.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Cato on March 07, 2019, 12:55:09 PM
Is this topic four years old?!

Two candidates which have not been mentioned:

Mahler's Tenth Symphony, especially the Fifth Movement.

https://www.youtube.com/v/q-ziJ36BDMs

Richard Strauss: Elektra, the recognition scene with Orestes and, especially, the haunting, chilling lamentation that follows, where Elektra summarizes her life since the death of Agamemnon, her real father, and implies certain unthinkable things were done to her by her mother's lover.  And then the crashing agony at the end, where Elektra realizes that her life's purpose (vengeance) is completed, and nothing remains for her in this life.

https://www.youtube.com/v/8pqWSKty5FI&list=RD8pqWSKty5FI&start_radio=1&t=0
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 07, 2019, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: Cato on March 07, 2019, 12:55:09 PM
Mahler's Tenth Symphony, especially the Fifth Movement.

Indeed. I could have (should have) included that in my list. Loved it since hearing Ormandy in the 60s.


Sarge
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: kyjo on March 07, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
Many of mine have already been mentioned:

Arnold - Symphony no. 5
Barber - Violin Concerto
Bloch - Piano Quintet no. 1
Brahms - Intermezzo in A major, op. 118/2
Bruckner - Symphony no. 9
Dvorak - Cello Concerto
Elgar - Symphony no. 2
Finzi - Cello Concerto
Gorecki - Symphony no. 3
Mahler - Symphony no. 9
Schnittke - Cello Concerto no. 1
Schubert - String Quintet
Tchaikovsky - Piano Trio
Vaughan Williams - Symphony no. 5

Oops, that's two too many...
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: SymphonicAddict on March 07, 2019, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: kyjo on March 07, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
Many of mine have already been mentioned:

Arnold - Symphony no. 5
Barber - Violin Concerto
Bloch - Piano Quintet no. 1
Brahms - Intermezzo in A major, op. 118/2
Bruckner - Symphony no. 9
Dvorak - Cello Concerto
Elgar - Symphony no. 2
Finzi - Cello Concerto
Gorecki - Symphony no. 3
Mahler - Symphony no. 9
Schnittke - Cello Concerto no. 1
Schubert - String Quintet
Tchaikovsky - Piano Trio
Vaughan Williams - Symphony no. 5

Oops, that's two too many...

The Finzi and the VW definitely mean much for me too. I remember the Arnold but not as much as I wanted at the moment.
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Mirror Image on March 07, 2019, 09:20:36 PM
Quote from: NikF4 on March 07, 2019, 07:10:17 AM
I'll try to make it that performance - thanks for the recommendation.

Yeah, generally speaking, when it comes to matters of 'taste' I find despite all the talk of good/bad it's more valuable (not to say rewarding) to invest in identifying, developing and then refining one's taste. We all move forward or at least should seek to do so.   8)

e: more exacty, whenever possible we should seek to move forward in all ways.

To the bolded text, you said a mouthful there. This is certainly the truth, but quite difficult for me as I've simply not let things go and can't seem to at the moment. But, I know, it's not healthy to hold onto something that you know is lost forever. It's that moment you look up and they're gone that it finally sinks in and reality rears its' head. Whoops...I've said too much. :-[
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Jackman on March 07, 2019, 09:26:31 PM
Quote from: Crudblud on March 07, 2019, 12:11:19 AM
Initially I tried to have only one entry per composer, mainly to prevent Mahler from dominating, since I think at my laziest I could easily have picked nothing but movements from his symphonies, but that would have made for a rather boring list. So here is the hopefully not boring list, in no particular order.

Ives - "General William Booth Enters into Heaven"
Ives - Fugue from Symphony No. 4
Mahler - Symphony No. 8 finale, from "Komm! hebe dich zu höhern Sphären" onward
Mahler - Kindertotenlieder
Stravinsky - Requiem Canticles
Schoenberg - "O alter Duft" from Pierrot Lunaire
Beethoven - Große Fuge
Ravel - La valse
Messiaen - Act III from St. François d'Assise
Froberger - Allemande from Méditation sur ma morte future
Webern - Sechs Stücke für großes Orchester (Op. 6)
Bach arr. Webern - Ricercar a 6

I love your list, that's a very awesome list of pieces, I love them all dearly myself  :)
Title: Re: Twelve works that you find most moving.
Post by: Crudblud on March 08, 2019, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: Jackman on March 07, 2019, 09:26:31 PM
I love your list, that's a very awesome list of pieces, I love them all dearly myself  :)
Solidarity!