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The Music Room => General Classical Music Discussion => The Polling Station => Topic started by: Mirror Image on December 23, 2015, 06:02:19 PM

Poll
Question: Which tone poem do you prefer?
Option 1: Eine Alpensinfonie, Op. 64 votes: 13
Option 2: Ein Heldenleben, Op. 40 votes: 7
Title: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Mirror Image on December 23, 2015, 06:02:19 PM
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Strauss Tone Poem Death Match Time!!!

Let's rip 'em a part guys! ;D
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Todd on December 23, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
I run hot and cold on Strauss tone poems, but here Heldenleben is the clear winner.
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Sergeant Rock on December 24, 2015, 02:33:35 AM
No contest: Alpensinfonie

Sarge
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Abuelo Igor on December 24, 2015, 02:45:44 AM
I prefer Also sprach Zarathustra to both of them, but, if forced to choose, Heldenleben wins hands down. I've always had the feeling that many of the people who dislike it do so because of the concept, which they find narcissistic, without paying any attention to the music itself. Strauss is the victim of so many preconceptions that I wouldn't even know where to begin.
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Mirror Image on December 24, 2015, 03:25:55 AM
I picked Eine Alpinesinfonie, but I love Ein Heldenleben just about as much. I suppose what made me choose Eine Alpensinfonie was the fact that this was the first work of Strauss' that I heard that made a strong impression on me from the start. Also, I had bought a DVD documentary/concert called Discovering Masterpieces of Classical Music, which had a musical break-down (each movement getting analyzed) of Alpensinfonie and a performance led by Sinopoli conducting the Staatskapelle Dresden. This DVD also helped me understand the brilliance of the work.

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Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: aligreto on December 24, 2015, 04:16:56 AM
Definitely Eine Alpensinfonie for me.
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Lisztianwagner on December 24, 2015, 04:33:32 AM
Eine Alpensinfonie, no doubt.
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Brahmsian on December 24, 2015, 04:45:43 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on December 24, 2015, 02:33:35 AM
No contest: Alpensinfonie

Sarge

It is a tough one, for me.  Love both of these, but.....I must chose:

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Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Mirror Image on December 26, 2015, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: ChamberNut on December 24, 2015, 04:45:43 AM
It is a tough one, for me.  Love both of these, but.....I must chose:

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Wise man! ;D
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on December 27, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
No egoistic orchestral bombing, however divinely beautiful, can surpass the solemn beauty of the Alps!
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Abuelo Igor on December 29, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
Quote from: Alberich on December 27, 2015, 04:26:06 AM
No egoistic orchestral bombing, however divinely beautiful, can surpass the solemn beauty of the Alps!

See what I mean?  :)

If he had called the piece any other way, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Jaakko Keskinen on December 29, 2015, 08:15:09 AM
Quote from: Abuelo Igor on December 29, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
See what I mean?  :)

If he had called the piece any other way, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I was making a joke. I don't consider Heldenleben particularly narcissistic and I'm glad it was the first tone poem of his that I heard. But I still like Alpensinfonie a bit more.
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2016, 09:17:47 AM
Tough one and I'd give you a different answer on different days I guess but Heldenleben.
Find it personally a bit more moving in a subtle way. And the battle scene is just the best  ;D
Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on January 24, 2016, 03:41:13 PM
Quote from: madaboutmahler on January 24, 2016, 09:17:47 AM
And the battle scene is just the best  ;D

The battle scene rocks! Heldenleben for me, too.


Title: Re: Strauss Tone Poem Showdown: Eine Alpensinfonie vs. Ein Heldenleben
Post by: Rons_talking on February 01, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
Alpensinfonie has always been my favorite
Strauss work...
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