GMG Classical Music Forum

Announcements => Introductions => Topic started by: Spineur on January 21, 2016, 08:37:28 AM

Title: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Spineur on January 21, 2016, 08:37:28 AM
 :) So I am a newbie here  :-*
and a real one !!

I recently renewed most of my sound equipment shifting to dematerialized music.  This meant ripping all the CD collection (> 450)  to flac and buying the best hires (24 bits-96 kHz) recordings (new or remastered) there are.  Being well aware that sound engineering will never replace exceptional artists, I have been looking for good places to get some informed opinions on various recordings.  Not that I dont have my own, but its always good to hear what other people think.

So anyway, I started on this program mid-december, and I am far from done now (will I ever be ?) but I have come a long way.  I am pretty happy with all this, and at present I listen to a whole lot more music, and my interest in classical music which had never really died came back to the forefront of my interests.

Hi to everybody.  I live in the French alps.  I lived in the US for many years and I have traveled quite a bit...



Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Florestan on January 21, 2016, 08:51:50 AM
Sois le bienvenu!

I have lived in Grenoble for almost 2 years and I have very fond memories of the city and its surroundings, as well as France in general.
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 21, 2016, 08:55:07 AM
Welcome! Sounds like quite an ambitious journey.
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: bhodges on January 21, 2016, 09:37:25 AM
Bonjour, Spineur, and welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy yourself!

--Bruce
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Wanderer on January 21, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: North Star on January 21, 2016, 10:09:02 AM
Bienvenue!
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Karl Henning on January 21, 2016, 10:22:56 AM
Welcome to GMG!
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: ritter on January 21, 2016, 10:43:09 AM
Welcome to the forum, Spineur. Hope you have a good time here.

Cordialement,

Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Papy Oli on January 21, 2016, 10:52:04 AM
Bonjour and welcome Spineur !
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Brian on January 21, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Hmmmm...can you send us all a few bottles of Vin de Savoie??

Welcome!
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Camphy on January 21, 2016, 11:52:39 AM
Welcome to GMG!
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: aligreto on January 21, 2016, 12:16:41 PM
Welcome and enjoy the experience  :)
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Spineur on January 21, 2016, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: Brian on January 21, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Hmmmm...can you send us all a few bottles of Vin de Savoie??

Welcome!
What about a bottle of Royal Lambert de Seyssel.  Champagne method, but drier and with more flavor.  I just got a case...
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: North Star on January 21, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: Spineur on January 21, 2016, 12:30:54 PM
What about a bottle of Royal Lambert de Seyssel.  Champagne method, but drier and with more flavor.  I just got a case...
I'm sure we'll find that most acceptable.   8)
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Mirror Image on January 21, 2016, 04:37:23 PM
Welcome aboard! Who are some of your favorite composers?
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Hollywood on January 21, 2016, 11:38:22 PM
Greetings from Vienna. Welcome to the forum.  8)
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Spineur on January 22, 2016, 12:27:15 PM
Quote from: Mirror Image on January 21, 2016, 04:37:23 PM
Welcome aboard! Who are some of your favorite composers?
First, I am an opera lover, so about all the italian repertoire, Mozart operas, French operas can be quite nice, Wagner in small doses, some Strauss, the russian repertoire.
My favorite opera is probably Lucia (de Lamermoor).  I can get a good kick out of contemporary stuff also: I saw 'Coeur de Chien' from Raskatov after the novel from Michael Bulgakov in Lyon last year.  That was really good.
Otherwise, I feel that music starts with J-S Bach.  I do not find enough variety in renaissance or middle-age music. Fine sounding but too much the same.
Since you have "Le divin Claude" as avatar, yes I like Debussy but not so much Pelleas.
Among 20th century French composer, I would put Francis Poulenc on top.  Le dialogue des Carmélites (saw it at the MET, in Paris and in Lyon last year), his sacred music, lieders, chamber music...
Some other 20th century composer I am particular found of Samuel Barber, Edward Elgar, Villa Lobos, Maurice Ravel ....
Among the romantics, Franz Liszt, Franz Schubert, Mahler, Beethoven (the quartets)
So you see, a lot of different music finds its way to my home.

:-* :-* :-*
Title: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Karl Henning on January 22, 2016, 12:33:58 PM
As a lover of the Russian rep, have you yet heard Taneyev's Oresteia? (Fair disclosure: I'm only starting to listen to it, myself.)
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Spineur on January 22, 2016, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: karlhenning on January 22, 2016, 12:33:58 PM
As a lover of the Russian rep, have you yet heard Taneyev's Oresteia? (Fair disclosure: I'm only starting to listen to it, myself.)
Nope, but I am interested in lending a good ear to this composer.
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: North Star on January 22, 2016, 12:48:25 PM
What do you think of Johannes Brahms, Robert Schumann, Ralph Vaughan Williams or Jean Sibelius?
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Mirror Image on January 22, 2016, 02:15:25 PM
Quote from: Spineur on January 22, 2016, 12:27:15 PM
First, I am an opera lover, so about all the italian repertoire, Mozart operas, French operas can be quite nice, Wagner in small doses, some Strauss, the russian repertoire.
My favorite opera is probably Lucia (de Lamermoor).  I can get a good kick out of contemporary stuff also: I saw 'Coeur de Chien' from Raskatov after the novel from Michael Bulgakov in Lyon last year.  That was really good.
Otherwise, I feel that music starts with J-S Bach.  I do not find enough variety in renaissance or middle-age music. Fine sounding but too much the same.
Since you have "Le divin Claude" as avatar, yes I like Debussy but not so much Pelleas.
Among 20th century French composer, I would put Francis Poulenc on top.  Le dialogue des Carmélites (saw it at the MET, in Paris and in Lyon last year), his sacred music, lieders, chamber music...
Some other 20th century composer I am particular found of Samuel Barber, Edward Elgar, Villa Lobos, Maurice Ravel ....
Among the romantics, Franz Liszt, Franz Schubert, Mahler, Beethoven (the quartets)
So you see, a lot of different music finds its way to my home.

:-* :-* :-*

I'm not too big of an opera fan but Bartok's Bluebeard's Castle is quite possibly my favorite in the medium. Good to see Debussy, Poulenc, Barber, Elgar, Villa-Lobos, and Ravel on your list. Certainly some of my favorites as well.
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Spineur on January 23, 2016, 02:12:31 AM
Quote from: North Star on January 22, 2016, 12:48:25 PM
What do you think of Johannes Brahms, Robert Schumann, Ralph Vaughan Williams or Jean Sibelius?
Brahms and Schumann are among my favorites, whether you are talking about symphonic music, concertos, lieders, chamber music...  I have a pretty large collection
Vaughan Williams, I cant answer yet because I have sampled only a few work: the lark ascending, some songs (On the Wenlock edge, etc..).  So far I am pretty happy with what I have heard, so intend to continue my exploration.
Only Sibelius is out for me.  I find his music to be too "syrupy and sweet": I drink my coffee black without sugar...
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: North Star on January 23, 2016, 02:41:18 AM
Quote from: Spineur on January 23, 2016, 02:12:31 AM
Only Sibelius is out for me.  I find his music to be too "syrupy and sweet": I drink my coffee black without sugar...
Syrupy and sweet ?? ?? ??
I have to ask, which works have you heard -- because that doesn't really make sense to me, at all, considering who else you like. (I mean, fine, if you like only pre-Romantics and Modernists, but with your tolerance of Elgar, Barber, French opera, RVW so far, etc, {and I'm not immune to the charms of any of those either} Sibelius shouldn't raise your blood sugar levels too much...)

Anyway, I would think that you will find that his mature works aren't in general all that syrupy or sweet.

https://www.youtube.com/v/HSDoYJC4DCk  https://www.youtube.com/v/60PGX0RzUvU https://www.youtube.com/v/mKdNRv5l7UQ  https://www.youtube.com/v/uKhCHvaAc3o https://www.youtube.com/v/3ywncteIf7M
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: The new erato on January 23, 2016, 02:47:49 AM
Quote from: North Star on January 23, 2016, 02:41:18 AM
Syrupy and sweet ?? ?? ??

My reaction exactly about this most rugged and granitic of composers when I saw this post an hour ago........

All right, if one only has heard the Valse Triste or one or other tidbits.....
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Mirror Image on January 23, 2016, 05:07:14 AM
Quote from: Spineur on January 23, 2016, 02:12:31 AM
Only Sibelius is out for me.  I find his music to be too "syrupy and sweet": I drink my coffee black without sugar...

Ummm...I don't even know how to respond to this post. I think you have Sibelius mixed up with another composer. One listen to Sibelius' Tapiola will perhaps make you rethink the comment of 'syrupy and sweet'. :) Please do check his music out. One of my favorite composers.
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: aligreto on January 23, 2016, 05:24:07 AM
Quote from: Spineur on January 23, 2016, 02:12:31 AM

Only Sibelius is out for me.  I find his music to be too "syrupy and sweet"

You certainly have puzzled a number of people with that comment, myself included  :laugh:
If I may just ask what conductor have you listened to interpreting the Granite Man music?
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2016, 03:29:48 PM
My parents refuse to listen to Sibelius because they think he is an unpleasant modernist who wanted to assail his listeners' ears with dissonance! They see my love of Sibelius as my primary form of "youthful rebellion"  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bonjour a tous !!
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 23, 2016, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: Spineur on January 23, 2016, 02:12:31 AM
Brahms and Schumann are among my favorites, whether you are talking about symphonic music, concertos, lieders, chamber music...  I have a pretty large collection
Vaughan Williams, I cant answer yet because I have sampled only a few work: the lark ascending, some songs (On the Wenlock edge, etc..).  So far I am pretty happy with what I have heard, so intend to continue my exploration.
Only Sibelius is out for me.  I find his music to be too "syrupy and sweet": I drink my coffee black without sugar...
Actually, I get it. That said, I've unexpectedly enjoyed the piano music, which seems more straight-forward than the orchestral stuff. Would suggest trying out some pieces on youtube or something like that...