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Title: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
What are your 5 favourites?

For me I think it will go something like this today:

A Survivor from Warsaw
Variations for Orchetra
Suite op. 29
Violin Concerto
String Trio
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: EigenUser on February 11, 2016, 02:09:53 AM
Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
What are your 5 favourites?

For me I think it will go something like this today:

A Survivor from Warsaw
Variations for Orchetra
Suite op. 29
Violin Concerto
String Trio

Chamber Symphony No. 1
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra
Pelleas und Melisande
Chamber Symphony No. 2

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
Variations for Orchetra
Violin Concerto
String Trio
I'm afraid of these pieces :-[

Never heard the op. 29, though. But I do like A Survivor from Warsaw.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 02:30:53 AM
What do you mean by being afraid?  :o
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Sergeant Rock on February 11, 2016, 02:33:54 AM
Moses und Aron
Gurre-Lieder
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra op.16
String Quartet No.2 op.10
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: ritter on February 11, 2016, 03:29:49 AM
My two cents' worth:

- Moses und Aron
- Piano concerto, op. 42
- Variations for orchestra, op. 31
- Serenade op. 24
- Six little piano pieces, op. 19
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Karl Henning on February 11, 2016, 03:35:28 AM
Serenade, Op.24
Herzgewächse, Op.20
Erwartung, Op.17
String Quartet № 3, Op. 30
Weihnachtsmusik (1921)


(But all of it, really.)
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: ritter on February 11, 2016, 03:54:25 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on February 11, 2016, 03:35:28 AM

(But all of it, really.)
I agree with Karl's fine print... ;)
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Mirror Image on February 11, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
My list (in no particular order):

Five Pieces for Orchestra, Op. 16
Die Jakobsleiter
Begleitmusik zu einer Lichtspielszene, Op. 34
Piano Concerto, Op. 42
Kol Nidre, Op. 39
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on February 11, 2016, 09:36:46 AM
Variations for Orchestra
Pierrot Lunaire
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version preferred)
String Trio
5 Pieces for Orchestra

Surprised I'm the first to mention Verklärte Nacht and Pierrot Lunaire - those are two of his "greatest hits"!
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: bhodges on February 11, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on February 11, 2016, 09:36:46 AM
Surprised I'm the first to mention Verklärte Nacht and Pierrot Lunaire - those are two of his "greatest hits"!

You just beat me to the punch.  8)

Five Pieces for Orchestra
Gurre-Lieder
Moses und Aron
Pierrot Lunaire
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version preferred)

With Erwartung as a very close No. 6. Sorry to omit Variations for Orchestra, and the Piano and Violin Concertos - never mind some of his chamber music.

--Bruce

Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Kamisama on February 11, 2016, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from an interview with Günter Wand I read yesterday:
"I also think highly of Messiaen, Bartók, Stravinsky and Schoenberg.  The Five Pieces for Orchestra, Opus sixteen is fantastic music.  It's written in the time of Emperor William II in 1910!  It was given for the first time in the Proms in London in 1912, before the First World War.  The third movement is called Chord-Colors.  You think it's Ligeti because it's all for the future.  It is so valuable!  It is genius!  I had a brief exchange of letters with Ligeti.  Listen to Atmosphères or Lontano of Ligeti — you have the same music like from 1910.  There, Schoenberg is atonal, not dodecaphonic, not twelve-tone.  The atonal Schoenberg before becoming a dodecaphonist is the best!"
http://www.bruceduffie.com/wand.html (http://www.bruceduffie.com/wand.html)


Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...



Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...




But what would your favourite pieces be?
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 05:57:08 PM
But what would your favourite pieces be?

It's a tough call. I'm with some of the others: much to choose from.

But probably these:

Erwartung
Fourth string quartet
String trio
Piano Concerto
Serenade


And as my stowaway a strong endorsement for a perennial dark-horse work, The Book of the Hanging Gardens. Undervalued as many works are of this vintage: a song cycle.


Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Karl Henning on February 12, 2016, 01:27:24 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...





I like your sense of humor!
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Karl Henning on February 12, 2016, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
And as my stowaway a strong endorsement for a perennial dark-horse work, The Book of the Hanging Gardens. Undervalued as many works are of this vintage: a song cycle.




Manga Greg would list that first of his five, too.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Cato on February 12, 2016, 01:49:25 AM
Yes, all of it, but...alphabetically

Die Jakobsleiter

Erwartung

Five Pieces for Orchestra

Gurrelieder

Pelleas und Melisande

Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on February 12, 2016, 07:18:17 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on February 12, 2016, 01:27:24 AM
I like your sense of humor!

;)


Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: bhodges on February 12, 2016, 07:26:48 AM
Argh...I completely forgot about the Kammersymphonie No. 1, but not sure what I'd remove to include it.

Quote from: Brewski on February 11, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Five Pieces for Orchestra
Gurre-Lieder
Moses und Aron
Pierrot Lunaire
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version preferred)

--Bruce

Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: North Star on February 12, 2016, 07:34:25 AM
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version), Op. 4
Kammersymphonie nr. 1, Op. 9
Fünf Orchesterstücke, Op. 16
Erwartung, Op. 17
Pierrot Lunaire, Op. 21
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: vandermolen on March 15, 2016, 12:49:51 PM
A Survivor from Warsaw
Gurrelieder
Five Pieces for Orchestra
Verklarte Nacht
er......that's it......
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: James on April 05, 2016, 08:36:56 AM
chamber symphony no. 1 op. 9
string quartet no. 2 op. 10
3 klavierstücke op. 11
five orchestral pieces op. 16
pierrot lunaire op. 21
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Sergeant Rock on November 27, 2016, 06:07:24 AM
Feeling a bit MI'ish today so I've decided to revise my list while ignoring the rules  8)

Chamber Symphony No.2 op.38
Suite op.29
Moses und Aron
Gurre-Lieder
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra op.16
String Quartet No.2 op.10
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Mirror Image on November 27, 2016, 06:09:13 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 27, 2016, 06:07:24 AM
Feeling a bit MI'ish today so I've decided to revise my list while ignoring the rules  8)

Chamber Symphony No.2 op.38
Suite op.29
Moses und Aron
Gurre-Lieder
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra op.16
String Quartet No.2 op.10

That's the spirit! ;)
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Heck148 on November 27, 2016, 06:24:18 AM
Quote from: jessop on February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
What are your 5 favourites?

5 Pieces for Orchestra
Variations for Orchestra
Moses and Aron
Pelleas & Melisande
Vln Cto

I tend to like most all
Schoenberg, he is one of my favorite composers.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Mahlerian on November 27, 2016, 09:03:03 AM
Book of the Hanging Gardens Op. 15
Serenade Op. 24
String Quartet No. 2 Op. 10
String Quartet No. 4 Op. 37
Violin Concerto Op. 36

But really, there's so much to choose from.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Heck148 on November 27, 2016, 09:07:37 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on November 27, 2016, 06:07:24 AM
Feeling a bit MI'ish today so I've decided to revise my list while ignoring the rules  8)

Chamber Symphony No.2 op.38
Suite op.29
Moses und Aron
Gurre-Lieder
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra op.16
String Quartet No.2 op.10

Good list...I could go for that..
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: ahinton on November 27, 2016, 09:37:23 AM
Only 5? Impossible!

Here's some out of which I'd find it impossible to pick just 5:

Verklärte Nacht, Op. 4 (and again, sextet version, please!)
Pelleas un Melisande, Op. 5
String Quartet No. 1, op. 7
Kammersymphonie No. 1, Op. 9
String Quartet No. 2, Op. 10
Gurrelieder
Funf orchesterstücke, Op. 16
Variations for orchestra, Op. 31
Kammersymphonie No. 2, Op. 38
and his orchestral arrangement of Brahms' G minor piano quartet.

Best that I can do, I fear!

Erwartung, OP. 17
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: SharpEleventh on November 27, 2016, 10:47:11 AM
Piano Concerto
Violin Concerto
Three piano pieces op. 11
Pelleas und Melisande
Verklärte Nacht

Honorable mentions: Variations for Orchestra and SQ no. 1
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Cato on November 27, 2016, 11:10:26 AM
Quote from: Cato on February 12, 2016, 01:49:25 AM
Yes, all of it, but...alphabetically

Die Jakobsleiter

Erwartung

Five Pieces for Orchestra

Gurrelieder

Pelleas und Melisande



My next five as of right now (alphabetically):



Moses und Aron

Piano Concerto

String Quartet #2

String Quartet #3

Violin Concerto



Jakobsleiter, the more I have heard it and thought about it throughout the years, may be Schoenberg's most extraordinary achievement (among other most extraordinary achievements ;) ).
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on November 27, 2016, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
Erwartung
Fourth string quartet
String trio
Piano Concerto
Serenade

And as my stowaway a strong endorsement for a perennial dark-horse work, The Book of the Hanging Gardens. Undervalued as many works are of this vintage: a song cycle.

Since we're all updating, I'd add:

Phantasy for violin and piano, Op.47.
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Mirror Image on February 11, 2020, 07:58:58 PM
I suppose I should update my list (in no particular order):

Pierrot Lunaire, Op. 21
Fünf Orchesterstücke, Op. 16
String Trio, Op. 45
Begleitmusik zu einer Lichtspielszene (Accompanying music to a film scene), Op. 34
Herzgewächse, Op. 20


Ask me again tomorrow and I'll most likely give a completely different list. :)
Title: Re: Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works
Post by: Daverz on February 11, 2020, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...

Obviously a higher number is better...

Gurre-Lieder
Pelleas und Melisande
Chamber Symphony No. 1
String Quartet No. 4
Violin Concerto

But ask again next week...