Not interested, bye bye forum 8)
How are you from you know where, just to be 100% sure.
Greetings, Thatfabulousalien - one can never have too many fabulous aliens wandering around here. 8) Hope you enjoy yourself amongst the humankind. (And a fan of contemporary classical here, too.)
--Bruce
Like, I'm leaning Xenakiboy, but that forum literally has a billion people, and sometimes I really suck at the guessing game, ya feel?
Either way, I feel comfortable telling you that I received the 4th Box of the Darmstadt Aural Documents and it is the bomb dot com.
Welcome aboard! I hope you enjoy your time here. We could use some more fans of contemporary classical around here.
Are you from before or after COAG was banned? Welcome to GMG! I hope you enjoy it here
Quote from: nathanb on August 09, 2016, 07:04:34 PM
Either way, I feel comfortable telling you that I received the 4th Box of the Darmstadt Aural Documents and it is the bomb dot com.
omgggggggg so jealous
Welcome! Good to see you here!
Welcome!
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 09, 2016, 07:49:05 PM
So in general, do people here like or hate Stockhausen?
As a rule, I am indifferent to him. I think
Gesang der Jünglinge is
all right (from my viewpoint, more of historical interest than of artistic interest); I think
Inori is
all right;
Kontra-Punkte is ... indistinguishable from 30 other pieces written at about the same time 8)
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 09, 2016, 04:40:32 PM
Hello, I'm a composer and enthusiast of contemporary and modern classical.
From briefly browsing here I notice a few of you from a certain other forum.
I hope I can fit in here and share my passions, I'd certainly prefer to be talking all day about music theory than finance, doctors visits and boring social life things.
8)
Greetings
Fabulous Alien!
I see that the CIA has forbidden you to reveal your location! Once, many moons ago, I interviewed and went through the beginning processes for joining the CIA. My handler was named (I am not making this up)
Steve Gunn. 8)
Concerning music theory: have you ever heard of
Avenir de Monfred's "Relative Music" or
Tibor Serly's "Modus Lascivus" ? They might interest you.
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 09, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
I don't know much of COAG, but I've heard of him.
It's me. Hello. :)
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 09, 2016, 07:49:05 PM
So in general, do people here like or hate Stockhausen?
Like Karl, I remain indifferent to him. I can't think any redeeming qualities about his music that would make me say
"Hmmm...I really need to hear that again."
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 09, 2016, 07:49:05 PM
So in general, do people here like or hate Stockhausen?
Everyone loves Stockhausen, they just haven't come out of the closet.
Quote from: nathanb on August 10, 2016, 06:48:56 AM
Everyone loves Stockhausen, they just haven't come out of the closet.
Hah!
Quote from: karlhenning on August 10, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
Hah!
Acceptance is the first step.
At least on this forum, people just claim indifference. It's a witch hunt where this alien just came from.
I did see a traffic helicopter, this morning . . . .
Welcome to the forum!
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 09, 2016, 07:49:05 PM
So in general, do people here like or hate Stockhausen?
I have yet to hear anything I actually liked by him, and I think that once the extramusical elements like costumed cavorting clarinetists are stripped away, there is little that others were not doing, and not doing better.
But the forum can always use an intelligent advocate of his music. There are several already, but we suffer from...well, I will let you form your opinion of James when you meet him. Suffice it to say his advocacy of KHS is a good reason not to like KHS.
Meanwhile, welcome to the forum.
Quote from: nathanb on August 10, 2016, 06:48:56 AM
Everyone loves Stockhausen, they just haven't come out of the closet.
The closet is so damn crowded, someone's got to get squeezed out once in a while. ;)
Cavorting clarinetists have indeed been done much better by others.
Quote from: karlhenning on August 10, 2016, 08:19:31 AM
Cavorting clarinetists have indeed been done much better by others.
"O Basset-Horn, Basset-Horn!"
Go to 3:40 or so:
https://www.youtube.com/v/fbKmF7KkB5Q
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on August 10, 2016, 07:58:11 AM
I have yet to hear anything I actually liked by him, and I think that once the extramusical elements like costumed cavorting clarinetists are stripped away, there is little that others were not doing, and not doing better.
I do not wish to argue with you because you have expressed your opinion with such care and civility (more than I am typically used to), but I would like to express my disagreement here. A number of counterexamples come to mind, but hey, it's all good tunes man.
And we're all for civil disagreement. Practically anything which one of us dislikes, may be someone else's especial favorite.
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Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 10, 2016, 06:19:57 PM
I guess I've never had a closet built into my house, I always listen to Stockhausen loud (even in public). He's not my absolute favorite composer but one I enjoy a lot.
What about Schoenberg? are people of this forum over tone rows? I swear some people are so far behind in music history :laugh:
I like Schoenberg a lot, but I prefer his 'free atonal' period above all others, although there are some 12-tone pieces of his I do like. Berg is my favorite composer from the
Second Viennese School. I dig some Webern, too. I know you were just joking around, but I think a lot of people, especially ones that frequent these kinds of forums are well aware of where classical went after the Romantic Era. Whether they like the music or not, is a subjective point, but I do think if you talk to a classical fan who's been listening for say 20 years, they'll know who Schoenberg is. If they don't, then they should perhaps pull their head out of the sand. :)
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 10, 2016, 06:22:16 PM
Oh, hi then COAG. Nice to see you around, you seem to have gained a reputation of sorts over there :laugh:
I'd assume then that you like Specialism? :)
Spectralism? I like spectralism quite a bit.
Greetings from a Yankee living in Beethoven and Mozart's Vienna. Welcome to the forum. 8)
I'm not sure if Haas actually uses techniques from spectral analysis in his music....I've heard he is interested in the aesthetics of spectralism but I am not sure if he is strictly speaking a 'spectralist composer'
My two favourite spectral compositions are Nørgård's Voyage into the Golden Screen and Harvey's Mortuos Plango Vivos Voco.
Btw I read an interview I read a while ago about haas....he says that nah he's not a spectral composer. He thinks overtones are cool.
Welcome to the forum, Thatfabulousalien! I hope you enjoy it here.
Another admirer (with some reservations) of Stockhausen here, and most of the 1950s Darmstadt avant-garde for that matter. Although my enthusiasm for Stockhausen's music has waned slightly over the past couple of years, I still hugely enjoy many of his pieces (Michael Reise..., Gruppen, Inori and most of the early stuff), and seeing Kontra-Punkte performed live under Peter Eötvös a couple of years ago here in Madrid was a memorable experience.
Great you already have Box 4 of the Darmstadt series! That one is a must for me, as it contains Pierre Boulez playing his Third sonata (AFAIK including the unpublished--fragmentary?-- movements).
Cheers,
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 10, 2016, 06:19:57 PM
What about Schoenberg?
I'm a big fan (but, of course, a composer is apt to be). Some here are, some aren't.
Quote from: nathanb on August 10, 2016, 07:03:32 AM
Acceptance is the first step.
At least on this forum, people just claim indifference. It's a witch hunt where this alien just came from.
Without naming it I can, I think, well guess that 'place' you are speaking of....
Are they still as, uh...
hypervigilant about suppressing that intransigent and terribly rude infidel modernist / contemporary crowd of theirs (of whom so many have fled / migrated to GMG? :-D
Best regards
Quote from: Monsieur Croche on August 11, 2016, 02:39:41 AM
Without naming it I can, I think, well guess that 'place' you are speaking of....
Are they still as, uh... hypervigilant about suppressing that intransigent and terribly rude infidel modernist / contemporary crowd of theirs (of whom so many have fled / migrated to GMG? :-D
Best regards
Yes, they are.
PetrB, it has been too long.
Quote from: nathanb on August 10, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
I do not wish to argue with you because you have expressed your opinion with such care and civility (more than I am typically used to), but I would like to express my disagreement here. A number of counterexamples come to mind, but hey, it's all good tunes man.
Disagreement was not merely expected, but necessary.
Trivia of the day, but relevant:
In Jewish law, if a court voted unanimously for guilt in a capital case (which was decided by a court of seventy members), a guilty verdict did not result. The very fact that everyone agreed was grounds for assuming that something had gone wrong with the trial.
Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on August 11, 2016, 09:30:01 AM
Disagreement was not merely expected, but necessary.
Trivia of the day, but relevant:
In Jewish law, if a court voted unanimously for guilt in a capital case (which was decided by a court of seventy members), a guilty verdict did not result. The very fact that everyone agreed was grounds for assuming that something had gone wrong with the trial.
A wise skepticism of majority rule! ;)
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 11, 2016, 02:11:24 PM
:laugh: looks like a Stockhausen thread is a necessity! :laugh:
BEHOLD!Stockhausen's Spaceship!http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,3533.0.html (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,3533.0.html)
Much depends, friend, on what you mean by necessity 0:)