Favorite 1, 5, 10, whatever number you choose. I am trying to explore other composers besides Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky et al, but please include them if your favorite symphonies include their works. Thank you, again, in advance. I appreciate all the recommendations I can get.
Well, of course Mozart, Bach, Beethoven & Tchaikovsky are among my favorites. But in the spirit of your query:
Berlioz, Symphonie funèbre et triomphale
Copland, Symphony for Organ and Orchestra
Schnittke, Symphony № 1
Bernstein, Symphony № 2, The Age of Anxiety (a kind of piano concerto, actually)
Prokofiev, Symphony № 2 in d minor
Nielsen, Symphony № 3, Sinfonia espansiva
Shostakovich, Symphony № 4 in c minor
Vaughan Williams, Symphony № 5
Mennin, Symphony № 7, Variation-Symphony
Schuman, Symphony № 9, Le fosse Ardeatine
That will do for a start.
A Top 10 (leaving out the Eroica)
Havergal Brian 1 "Gothic"
Mahler 6
Bruckner 3
Sibelius 5
Nielsen 3
Vaughan Williams 4
Brahms 4
Shostakovich 15
Haydn 99
Ives 2
Quote from: karlhenning on August 16, 2016, 06:44:41 AM
Nielsen, Symphony № 3, Sinfonia espansiva
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Favorite symphonies? Oh boy....this might turn into a larger list than expected (in no particular order):
Nielsen: Symphonies 3-6 (all of them really)
Sibelius: Symphonies 4-7 (all of them really)
Shostakovich: Symphonies 4-11, 15
Prokofiev: Symphonies 2, 5-7
Vaughan Williams: Symphonies 3, 5, 6, 8
Elgar: both of them
Martinu: all six of them
Bruckner: Symphonies 5-9
Ives: all five of them
Copland: Short Symphony (No. 2), Symphony No. 3, Symphony for Organ and Orchestra
Barber: Symphony No. 2
Diamond: Symphonies 3 & 4
Schuman: Symphonies 3 & 6
Honegger: Symphonies 2 & 3
Schnittke: Symphonies 3-5, 8
Miaskovsky: Symphonies 24 & 25
Rachmaninov: Symphonies 1-3
Chavez: Symphonies 1, 2, 4
Silvestrov: Symphonies 4 & 5
Part: Symphony No. 3
Casella: Sinfonia (No. 3)
Britten: Sinfonia da Requiem
Szymanowski: Symphonies 3 & 4
Arnold: Symphony No. 9
Atterberg: Symphony No. 3, "West Coast Pictures"
Nystroem: Sinfonia del Mare (esp. the Svetlanov performance!)
Pettersson: Symphony No. 7
Langgaard: Symphony No. 6, "The Heaven-Rendering
Dvorak: Symphonies 4, 7-9
Brahms: all four of them
Mahler: Symphonies 4, 5, 7
Braga Santos: Symphonies 2 & 4
Tubin: Symphonies 1, 4, & 7
Scriabin: Symphony No. 3, "The Divine Poem"
Another favoured ten in the same (brotherly ;)) spirit:
Vaughan Williams 6
(Havergal) Brian 1 'Gothic'
Nielsen 5
Tubin 6
Shostakovich 15
Barber 2
Holmboe 8
(Stanley) Bate 3 (played it again today and was impressed, again)
Braga Santos 3
Arnold 9
Mahler 6
in chrono, very roughly
Mozart 38, 39, 41
Haydn 45, 80, 82, 92, 93, 104
Beethoven 3, 4, 5, 7, 8
Schubert 4, 8 (Great C Major)
Berlioz fantastique
Kalliwoda 3, 5
Dvorak 3, 7, 8
Brahms 4
Bruckner 6, 7
Tchaikovsky 4, 5, 6
Mahler 1, 3
Rachmaninov 2
Sibelius 3, 5, 7
Nielsen 3
Szymanowski 4 (like Karl's Bernstein pick, a secret piano concerto)
Vaughan Williams 3, 5
Shostakovich 6, 9, 10
Martinu 2, 3, 4
Atterberg 8
Prokofiev 7
Lloyd 5
Rautavaara 7
Aho 9
EDIT: Wow, I picked 47. I'll try and think of 3 more to make it 50!
EDIT 2: Added Haydn 104, Schubert 4, Lloyd 5 to make it 50.
Of the several threads I've started, this is the most helpful to me, as I had never heard of some of these composers listed. So it helps me branch out into what looks to me like the endless depths of classical music.
Almost the same! These are only off-the-top-of-my-head symphonies. Hopefully I didn't leave any out.
Haydn 44, 46, 47, 67, 78, 83, 84, 86, 88, 92-104
Mozart 38, 39, 40
Beethoven 1-9
Schubert 7 & 8
Berlioz 1-3
Berwald 2-4
Schumann 2, 4 (1841 version)
Mendelssohn 4
Bruckner 6, 8
Brahms 1-4
Dvořák 1-8
Borodin 2
Tchaikovsky 1, 2, 6
Nielsen 3, 5, 6
Schoenberg 1 (Op. 9 not 9b)
Webern
Ives 4
Martinů 1-6
Szymanowski 3 & 4
Dutilleux 1 & 2
Stravinsky of Wind Instruments & in C
Shostakovich 14
Gerhard 3
Lutosławski 3 & 4
Tippett 1 & 2
Schnittke 8
Dhomont Frankenstein
Malec Triola
Berio
Arnold 7
Quote from: amw on August 16, 2016, 08:16:10 AM
Schumann 4 (1841 version)
I knew you had good taste.
Also I feel like a total doof for forgetting Borodin 2. Borodin is one of those composers whom I forget for months at a time, then remember him and listen to all his music fresh and love all of it and vow to listen more, and then the cycle repeats.
Very much agree with the choices of Mirror Image and Christo but here goes. I have limited myself to one by each composer:
Bruckner: Symphony 9
Vaughan Williams: Symphony 6
Miaskovsky: Symphony 6
Bax: Symphony 3
Walton: Symphony 1
Shostakovich: Symphony 4
Egge: Symphony 1
Rootham: Symphony 1
Kabalevsky: Symphony 4
Nielsen: Symphony 5 (heard it live recently - terrific)
Tubin: Symphony 2 'Legendary'
Harris: Symphony 3
Braga Santos: Symphony 4
Havergal Brian: Symphony 8
Gliere: Symphony 3 'Ilya Murometz'
Diamond: Symphony 3
Arnold: Symphony 1
Atterberg: Symphony 3 'West Coast Pictures'
Nystroem: Symphonie Del Mare
Norgard: Symphony 1
Mahler: Symphony 3
Lilburn: Symphony 1
Rosenberg: Symphony 3
Pettersson: Symphony 7
Copland: Symphony 3
Bernstein: Symphony 1 'Jeremiah'
Rubbra: Symphony 5
Bate: Symphony 3
Kinsella: Symphony 3
Damase: Symphonie
Honegger: Symphony 3 'Liturgique'
Sorry, didn't know when to stop. ::)
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There are tooooo many!!! 0:)
Okay, let me just make a list of favorite composers who only produced One symphony: at random...
Hans Rott
Bernard Herrmann
Ernst Chausson
Georges Bizet
Richard Wagner
Louis Vierne
Erich Korngold
Irving Fine
Quote from: Cato on August 16, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
Irving Fine
The Irving Fine and Harold Shapero symphonies are being presented together at Carnegie Hall this November by Leon Botstein and the American SO, in case you need a bit of a vacation!
Quote from: Brian on August 16, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
The Irving Fine and Harold Shapero symphonies are being presented together at Carnegie Hall this November by Leon Botstein and the American SO, in case you need a bit of a vacation!
Now that I want to see!
Quote from: Brian on August 16, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
The Irving Fine and Harold Shapero symphonies are being presented together at Carnegie Hall this November by Leon Botstein and the American SO, in case you need a bit of a vacation!
WOW!
Leon Botstein is doing an excellent job in pushing the "unknown" yet worthy repertoire. He brought
Taneyev's opera
The Oresteia to life a few years ago with the same orchestra.
Quote from: Cato on August 16, 2016, 01:26:59 PMWOW! Leon Botstein is doing an excellent job in pushing the "unknown" yet worthy repertoire. He brought Taneyev's opera The Oresteia to life a few years ago with the same orchestra.
Another gem - only to be heard on Spotify - is his performance with the same orchestra of Paul Ben-Haim's Second Symphony (1945); by far that composer's most inspired composition AFAIK them and a wonderful performance (Botstein shouting "cover your mouth!!" after the third movement's final bars at someone in the audience coughing). ;)
Quote from: Christo on August 16, 2016, 02:17:37 PM
Another gem - only to be heard on Spotify - is his performance with the same orchestra of Paul Ben-Haim's Second Symphony (1945); by far that composer's most inspired composition AFAIK them and a wonderful performance (Botstein shouting "cover your mouth!!" after the third movement's final bars at someone in the audience coughing). ;)
:D Many thanks for the recommendation!
A small number of favourites:
Messiaen Turangalila
Berio Sinfonia
Carter Symphonia
Coates no. 14
Henze no. 7
Eisler Deutsch Symphonie
Mahler no. 7
Sibelius no. 7
Ives no. 4
Honegger no. 1
Schoenberg no. 1
Schnittke no. 1
Some great lists. Ask for a drink of water and get handed a firehose. Looks like most of the territory has been farmed out, so I'll add only a few more items:
CPE Bach: Symphonies Wq. 183
Haydn 31
Vorisek: Symphony
Gade: Symphony No. 1
Kalinnikov: Symphony No. 1
Balakirev: Symphony No. 1
Bliss: A Colour Symphony
And second some others to sip from the firehose, keeping it down to one per composer:
Sibelius 5
Shostakovich 10
Nielsen 5
Bruckner 7
Vaughan Williams 5
Walton 1
Tchaikovsky 6
Brahms 3
Dvorak 9
Borodin 2
Mendelssohn 4
To be fair if I gave a top 5 it would be one of those boring average lists OP didn't want.
Beethoven 3
Mozart 38
Brahms 3
Dvořák 7
Webern
Webern is the only outside choice and even then, still the best known and highest regarded symphony of the 20th century in compositional and musicological circles.
So instead I listed like 590 symphonies so someone who didn't know some of them could find out more. >_>
Quote from: amw on August 16, 2016, 05:42:47 PM
To be fair if I gave a top 5 it would be one of those boring average lists OP didn't want.
Beethoven 3
Mozart 38
Brahms 3
Dvořák 7
Webern
Webern is the only outside choice and even then, still the best known and highest regarded symphony of the 20th century in compositional and musicological circles.
So instead I listed like 590 symphonies so someone who didn't know some of them could find out more. >_>
What do you mean by 'outside choice?'
Quote from: jessop on August 16, 2016, 05:45:22 PM
What do you mean by 'outside choice?'
Outside the "greatest hits", probably.
Quote from: Dave B on August 16, 2016, 06:03:05 PM
Already I've "discovered" symphonies 1 and 6 of Martinu. I had never heard of that composer. No matter how much I learn about classical music, I still feel that I've taken only a hundred or so steps into the vast Sahara and have hundreds upon hundreds of miles to go before reaching the end of it, and the analogy is false, because classical music seems to be endless, while even the Sahara has limits.
Isn't it exciting???
And I was going to tell you that we already had a GMGer named "dave b" and that you should meet him...guess that won't be necessary!
Quote from: Dave B on August 16, 2016, 06:03:05 PM
No matter how much I learn about classical music, I still feel that I've taken only a hundred or so steps into the vast Sahara and have hundreds upon hundreds of miles to go before reaching the end of it, and the analogy is false, because classical music seems to be endless, while even the Sahara has limits.
I have given up "exploring everything". Not going to happen within one lifetime. I am 45 and I have already discovered so much great music (classical and non-classical) I could give away 75 % of it and still have enough music to enjoy the rest of my life. At the same time there is so much I have not discovered and never will. Too much music in the world, we don't live for 1000 or 5000 years! :o
Quote from: 71 dB on August 16, 2016, 10:25:04 PM
I have given up "exploring everything". Not going to happen within one lifetime. I am 45 and I have already discovered so much great music (classical and non-classical) I could give away 75 % of it and still have enough music to enjoy the rest of my life. At the same time there is so much I have not discovered and never will. Too much music in the world, we don't live for 1000 or 5000 years! :o
I always thought you were 71.....
Quote from: Dave B on August 16, 2016, 06:03:05 PM
Again, thank you for these lists. They are extremely helpful. Already I've "discovered" symphonies 1 and 6 of Martinu. I had never heard of that composer. No matter how much I learn about classical music, I still feel that I've taken only a hundred or so steps into the vast Sahara and have hundreds upon hundreds of miles to go before reaching the end of it, and the analogy is false, because classical music seems to be endless, while even the Sahara has limits.
But anyway, I have been introduced, via these various lists, to many "new" (to me) composers and works. Thanks very much.-----I was on here about 8 years ago as dave b and have not posted much since, until recently. I remember some of you from back then.
Martinu Symphony 4 is my favourite of his cycle although they are all good. Agree about Shostakovich Symphony 10 which is one of the greatest 20th Century symphonies in my view.
Quote from: Cato on August 16, 2016, 11:37:34 AM
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There are tooooo many!!! 0:)
Okay, let me just make a list of favorite composers who only produced One symphony: at random...
Hans Rott
Bernard Herrmann
Ernst Chausson
Georges Bizet
Richard Wagner
Louis Vierne
Erich Korngold
Irving Fine
Very much agree with Herrmann and Korngold choices.
Quote from: jessop on August 16, 2016, 10:34:23 PM
I always thought you were 71.....
Oh, that is
sure to win them over as a friend :laugh:
To thread duty, with pleasure... a higgledy-piggledy array, with near certain a few already mentioned...
Georges Bizet ~ Symphony in C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtiOCpSalLw
Camille Saint-Saens ~ Symphony No. 3
Studio recording, Charles Munch conducting the Boston Symphony, is a terrific performance. The finale is gloriously over the top, uses a huge orchestra, two pianos, pipe organ. (You might instantly recognize having heard it without before having known what, or whose, it is.)
Darius Milhaud ~ Six Little Symphonies ("Pocket symphonies, each three movements, five minutes or less for various small instrumental ensembles. Strong, tiny gems.) below, all six, youtube playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EsUk1tcLnU&list=PLhQHlPG4E3CwsJAmTCNkWy_x5_mgQQPKb
Claude Debussy ~ La Mer (no quibbling; it analyzes as a formal symphony, regardless of what he called it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qyO6nhM79E
Gustav Mahler ~ Nos. 1, 4, the first movement Adagio of his uncompleted 10th
Arthur Honegger ~ Symphony no.5 "Di Tre Re." (youtube, Serge Baudo, Czech Philharmonic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEVSq6Jl5JA
Charles Ives ~ Symphony no. 4 (Michael Tilson-Thomas, conducting)
Roy Harris ~ Symphony No. 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dr_jg-hl0g
Luciano Berio ~ Sinfonia (premiere recording w Berio Conducting)
Carl Nielsen ~ SYmphony no. 54 (already mentioned.)
Lukas Foss ~ SYmphony no. 2, "A Symphony of Chorales"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU1p4Em0hzQ
George Rochberg ~ SYmphony no. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRwiK--nTA
Alfredo Casella ~ Symphony No.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Q7a9vL8fY
Gian Francesco Malipiero ~ Symphony no.6 for strings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WS20RAw6dw
Alan Hovhaness ~ Symphony No. 2 "Mysterious Mountain" premiere recording, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, Fritz Reiner, conducting -- and still (regarded as) the best recorded performance of several now available
[I'm an advocate of all the above, but not an advocate 'for' Hovhaness.' It is just not my cuppa, while you should know of it, may love it and some other pieces by this composer]
Andante con moto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-hfR6CCwe8
Double Fugue (Moderato maestoso, allegro vivo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYNQ-v5Wrbo
Andante espressivo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-hfR6CCwe8
Best regards.
Agree about Honegger Symphony 5 - a very underrated work and composer.
Quote from: vandermolen on August 17, 2016, 02:32:39 AM
Agree about Honegger Symphony 5 - a very underrated work and composer.
...not a symphony, but here is another I place in 'underrated,' or just not nearly enough well-known.
Concertino for piano and orchestra.
https://www.youtube.com/v/nEs0xJnHzbs
or, considering the ongoing 'problem' copy and paste the below URL in to a new window
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEs0xJnHzbs
Best regards.
BRIAN----you were, if you recall, a participant in this thread from back in 2008. Whether it's a classic thread or not, it brought back memories for me. That was the last time I asked such a question. :) :)
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,6833.msg160380.html#msg160380
Quote from: Monsieur Croche on August 17, 2016, 12:24:27 AM
Lukas Foss ~ SYmphony no. 2, "A Symphony of Chorales"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU1p4Em0hzQ
This is a symphony I discovered thanks to our very own Monsieur Croche...probably my favourite Lukas Foss composition now. :)
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 16, 2016, 06:49:15 AM
A Top 10 (leaving out the Eroica)
Havergal Brian 1 "Gothic"
Mahler 6
Bruckner 3
Sibelius 5
Nielsen 3
Vaughan Williams 4
Brahms 4
Shostakovich 15
Haydn 99
Ives 2
Largely agree with these choices although I prefer Nielsen's 4-6. Bruckner Symphony 3 and Mahler Symphony 6 are amongst their greatest I think.
Another attempt, in roughly chronological order (leaving Mozart and Beethoven out, at your request)
Wilms 6
Mendelssohn 4 ('Italienische')
Schubert 8 ('Unvollendete')
Tchaikovsky 4, 5, 6
Dvořák 1 ('Zlonické zvony'), 9 ('Z nového světa')
Saint-Saëns 3 ('Orgue') (I know it's ..., but no, it isn't and I love it 8))
Bruckner 9 ('Dem lieben Gott gewidmet')
Mahler 6, 7
Schmidt 4
Debussy 'La Mer'
Tournemire 6
Sibelius 4
Miaskovsky 6
Szymanowski 3
Vermeulen 2 (`Prélude à la nouvelle journée')
Madetoja 2
Hindemith 1 ('Mathis der Maler')
Nielsen 3 ('Espansiva'), 4 ('Uudslukkelige'), 5, 6
Langgaard 6 ('Himmelrivende')
Koppel 3
Vaughan Williams 3 ('Pastoral'), 4, 5, 6, 8, 9
Bliss 1 'Colour Symphony'
Brian 1 ('Gothic'), 8, 10
Walton 1
Moeran 1
Goossens 1
Rubbra 10 ('Da camera')
Orthel 2 ('Piccola')
Irgens-Jensen 1
Shostakovich 4, 5, 8, 10, 15
Tubin 4 ('Lirica'), 6, 8
Raid 1
Ben-Haim 2
Schuman 3
Barber 2
Diamond 3
Harris 3
Honegger 3 ('Liturgique'), 4 ('Deliciae basiliensis'), 5 ('Di tre re')
Lilburn 2
Cooke 1
Tippett 2
Bate 3, 4
Alwyn 2
Martinů 4, 5, 6 ('Fantaisies symphoniques')
Freitas Branco 4
Braga Santos 3, 4
Holmboe 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Guarnieri 2 ('Uirapuru'), 3
Górecki 3 ('Pieśni żałosnych')
Englund 4 ('Nostalgica')
Kokkonen 4
Simpson 9
Arnold 7, 9
Kinsella 3, 7
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/aug/04/beethoven-eroica-greatest-symphony-vote-bbc-mozart-mahler
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-ten-best-symphonies-so-say-the-experts-r2wsqncmb
1. Beethoven Symphony No 3 (1803)
2. Beethoven Symphony No 9 (1824)
3. Mozart Symphony No 41 (1788)
4. Mahler Symphony No 9 (1909)
5. Mahler Symphony No 2 (1894 rev 1903)
6. Brahms Symphony No 4 (1885)
7. Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique (1830)
8. Brahms Symphony No 1 (1876)
9. Tchaikovsky Symphony No 6 (1893)
10. Mahler Symphony No 3 (1896)
FWIW, their 11-20 (note the reverse counting order)
20- Bruckner #7
19- Beethoven #6
18- Brahms #2
17- Shostakovich #5
16- Beethoven #7
15- Mozart #40
14- Sibelius #7
13- Bruckner #8
12- Brahms #3
11- Beethoven #5
They were asking 150 conductorsfor their top 3 (I think) and compiled the lists from those results. Most conspicuous absence for me is Schubert 9th, also surprising that DSCH 5th beat his 4th, 8th or 10th (they asked conductors, not audience), no Bruckner in the top 10 and Mahler's 2nd and 3rd doing so well.
Not that far yet on my journey into symphonies ... couldn't name a favourite by Sibelius yet, or Dvorák, though I heard most of their symphonies by now and enjoyed them.
So far, I guess:
Beethoven 7 & 8
Mozart 40 & 41
Schubert "Great"
Mendelssohn 4
Brahms 3 & 4
Weinberg 10 (heard it in concert and was really impressed)
not very original, I know ;D
Well, this is an interesting exercise partly because it reminds me how many composers' symphonies I myself don't have yet, and want.
Looking through the ones that I do have or know well enough, though, and choosing as spontaneously as possible...
Haydn - 93 and 102
Mozart - 39
Beethoven - 4
Liszt - Faust Symphony I seem to remember liking
Dvorak - 4 and 9
Rachmaninov - 1, or the Symphonic Dances if I may
Sibelius - 4
Mahler - 5
Shostakovich - 13
Holmboe - 8 and 10, and 2 and 5 and 6 and 9 and...
Simpson - 2
Nørgård - 3
Vine - 1
Agree with all of Christo's latest choices and would add this one as well as Bloch's early 'Symphony in C sharp minor':
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Quote from: Monsieur Croche on August 17, 2016, 12:24:27 AM
Carl Nielsen ~ SYmphony no. 54 (already mentioned.)
Holy cow...are there really at least 48 undiscovered Nielsen symphonies?!! ;)
The majority of the symphonies I'd recommend have already been mentioned at least once. Being Welsh, I have to suggest William Mathias' three symphonies, especially No. 2. Oh, and the six of Arnold Bax (especially the even-numbered ones). All wonderfully orchestrated.
Quote from: Christo on August 16, 2016, 07:14:20 AM
Another favoured ten in the same (brotherly ;)) spirit:
Vaughan Williams 6
(Havergal) Brian 1 'Gothic'
Nielsen 5
Tubin 6
Shostakovich 15
Barber 2
Holmboe 8
(Stanley) Bate 3 (played it again today and was impressed, again)
Braga Santos 3
Arnold 9
Mahler 6
No Kaljo Raid: Symphony 1? 8)
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Quote from: vandermolen on August 21, 2016, 03:48:32 PM
No Kaljo Raid: Symphony 1? 8)
Raid is safely rescued in my long-list, see below. In return: what made you betray your love for Suk's Asrael Symphony? Or Gibbs' 3 Westmorland? 8)
Quote from: orfeo on August 19, 2016, 05:27:02 AMHolmboe - 8 and 10, and 2 and 5 and 6 and 9 and...
.. 7, 8, 11, 13? 8)
Quote from: Christo on August 21, 2016, 10:35:39 PM
Raid is safely rescued in my long-list, see below. In return: what made you betray your love for Suk's Asrael Symphony? Or Gibbs' 3 Westmorland? 8)
OMG How could I have excluded those great scores!? :o :( ::)
The good showing here for Honegger and Martinů warms the cockles of my heart!
Now of course, I think of Woody Allen's great quip in Love and Death: That's just great — hot cockles.
Quote from: karlhenning on August 22, 2016, 05:41:30 AM
Now of course, I think of Woody Allen's great quip in Love and Death: That's just great — hot cockles.
Sure wish you hadn't :laugh: That film just overflows with wit and wisdom - "To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore, to love is to suffer; not to love is to suffer; to suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy, then, is to suffer, but suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy, one must love or love to suffer or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down."
Quote from: vandermolen on August 19, 2016, 07:15:29 AMas well as Bloch's early 'Symphony in C sharp minor':
[asin]B00E3ISHMI[/asin]
Okay, I succumb. This being about the umptiest time you've recommended it, I now finally ordered a copy. Of the Naxos recording, not the earlier BIS. Hope you're contented. 8)
Quote from: Christo on August 22, 2016, 06:07:35 AM
Okay, I succumb. This being about the umptiest time you've recommended it, I now finally ordered a copy. Of the Naxos recording, not the earlier BIS. Hope you're contented. 8)
Yes, delighted. I'm annoyed at having missed a live performance of it in London a few years ago (Dalia Atlas). The redemptive (IMHO) ending of the symphony is a great moment. It is an early work and I look forward to hearing your views, unless, of course, you are at the International Court of Justice at The Hague, down the road, facing CD smuggling charges. 8)
Mozart: Symphonies 25, 29, 38, 40
Haydn: Symphony 46
Beethoven: Symphonies 3, 5, 6, 7, 9
Schubert: "Unfinished"
Berlioz: Harold en Italie
Liszt: Faust Symphony
Sibelius: Symphonies 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
Debussy: La Mer
Shostakovich: Symphony 3
Richard Strauss: An Alpine Symphony
Rachmaninov: Symphony 1
Bruckner: Symphonies 6 and 7
Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde, Symphony 1, 3, 4, 6, 9
Mendelssohn: Italian Symphony
Ralph Vaughan Williams: A Sea Symphony
Brahms: Symphonies 1, 2, 4
I'm sure I forgot someone but this'll do for now.
Quote from: vandermolen on August 22, 2016, 12:54:50 PMYes, delighted. I'm annoyed at having missed a live performance of it in London a few years ago (Dalia Atlas). The redemptive (IMHO) ending of the symphony is a great moment. It is an early work and I look forward to hearing your views, unless, of course, you are at the International Court of Justice at The Hague, down the road, facing CD smuggling charges. 8)
I protest, the smuggling takes place in international waters; I'll invoke Grotius~! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mare_Liberum
Maybe it was a typo for 13 8)
I would probably like Shostakovich more were it not for his excessive use of eardrum-piercing dissonances...
Well, you really did mean 3, then 8)
Quote from: Christo on August 26, 2016, 02:15:09 AM
I protest, the smuggling takes place in international waters; I'll invoke Grotius~! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mare_Liberum
:)
Quote from: karlhenning on August 26, 2016, 02:56:21 AM
YES!
+1
My favourite Rachmaninov symphony. I love the opening of the last movement (once a TV signature theme in Britain) and the way in which the symphony, having threatened to do so for some time, finally topples into the abyss at the end - wonderful!