What are some of your favourites?
To start off with, in no particular order (except for Boulez works which are obviously at the top of my list):
Boulez: Répons, Dialogue de l'ombre double, Anthèmes 2
Ligeti: Artikulation
Stockhausen: Gesang der Jüngling
Samuel Smith: Bleed Through
Dai Fujikura: Sparking Orbit
João Pedro Oliveira: In Tempore
Pauline Oliveros: Mnemonics III
Anthony Pateras: Immediata, Architexture, Keen Unknown Matrix
Babbitt: Philomel
Jonathan Harvey: Mortuos Plango, Vivos Voco
Yeah I suppose anything that has electronics as a feature. Kraanerg is great, but also Polytope de Cluny is something I could mention as more of a favourite in the tape music genre.
Boulez > Ligeti = Xenakis > the rest of dem composers :P
Varèse certainly was a source of inspiration for many of the most well known composers after him! Although maybe I should point out that I believe Ligeti and Xenakis to be very very very different but still equal favourites for me. I can't say whether I prefer one or the other. Both wrote great (but extremely different) electronic works...but in this genre maybe Ligeti wins out just by a little bit because I feel like I honestly prefer Artikulation to most other electronic works ever composed!
I have never heard anything by Pierre Schaeffer........but the name 'Pierre' makes me think of Pierre Henry whom I have outrageously overlooked in my original list! ??? ??? ???
I prefer Cage's acoustic works to his electroacoustic works tbh
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Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 18, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
Schaeffer and Henry knew eachother other didn't they? :o
Williams Mix was the first ever Cage piece I heard, it blew my mind back then. I would also agree to like his acoustic work more, I really like his chamber music, but that's another thread
Well I don't know too much about la vie de Pierre Henry to say for sure.
And yes, a think a Top 5 Favourite Cage Compositions is a thread which is due to be made!
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 18, 2016, 11:50:25 PM
I listened to Artikulation, it is highly structured, very brilliant. It is a fun piece, he didn't compose many other electroacoustic pieces did he?
I think he may have composed one or two others but it/they were lost/destroyed or barely ever mentioned anywhere for some reason.
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 18, 2016, 11:48:18 PM
One without any 4'33 jokes would be a miracle :laugh:
I think jokes about 'Seventeen' are much funnier! Although I haven't actually heard any jokes surrounding the 'composition' so I might be the only one who tells them. :/
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 19, 2016, 01:00:51 AM
That's one that "exists" right? Better than 4'33, because people actually know how to play it ;)
Absolutely! In my opinion it is the most groundbreaking of all of Cage's works! Much more so than 4'33"! :laugh:
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 19, 2016, 01:36:24 AM
Of course there's also Ferneyhough's Time and motion study 2, which intrigues me! (more than a lot of his other work)
Hm i haven't heard that but ive seen it mentioned a fair bit on the internet. I am a big Ferneyhough fan though so i should check it out!
Quote from: jessop on August 18, 2016, 03:59:24 PM
What are some of your favourites?
To start off with, in no particular order (except for Boulez works which are obviously at the top of my list):
Boulez: Répons, Dialogue de l'ombre double, Anthèmes 2
Ligeti: Artikulation
Stockhausen: Gesang der Jüngling
Samuel Smith: Bleed Through
Dai Fujikura: Sparking Orbit
João Pedro Oliveira: In Tempore
Pauline Oliveros: Mnemonics III
Anthony Pateras: Immediata, Architexture, Keen Unknown Matrix
Babbitt: Philomel
Jonathan Harvey: Mortuos Plango, Vivos Voco
The ones
bolded are those I have heard (and like), and will try to come up with some others. PS, am hearing two works by
Dai Fujikura next week, with the International Contemporary Ensemble (ICE), part of the - believe it or not - Mostly Mozart Festival! I don't know if either one uses electronics, we'll see.
http://mostlymozart.org/events/international-contemporary-ensemble
Quote from: jessop on August 18, 2016, 11:27:34 PM
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Oh heavens, not to worry. You and
T.F. Alien ( 8) ) are having an invigorating conversation
a deux, which many people here do. Not everyone chimes in on everything -- people don't even read everything here (the mods certainly don't), since the board is too large.
So...carry on. 8)
--Bruce
Ah, thought of several recordings that fit here:
Polytopia by violinist/composer Mari Kimura, who works closely with people at IRCAM and elsewhere. This recording, all for violin and electronics of various kinds, has many interesting works, such as Robert Rowe's Submarine and Tania Leon's Axon.
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Roberto Gerhard: Symphony No. 3, "Collages," for orchestra and tape (1960) - Wonderful piece that I would love to hear live some day. At least in the United States, his music is quite off the radar.
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--Bruce
I've seen a lot of stuff being uploaded on facebook and youtube from ICE and Dai Fujikura. Pretty exciting! I actually made a lil page called 'Living Composers' to promote the music of living composers....if you have facebook you should check it out and maybe send some recommendations in of works i could share on the page. ;)
I've heard of Mari Kimura but not any compositions unfortunately....
Quote from: jessop on August 18, 2016, 03:59:24 PM
What are some of your favourites?
Stockhausen - Kontakte & many others.
Viñao - Son Entero
Lansky - Ride
Boulez - ...explosante-fixe...
Carlos - Switched-On Bach
Oh goodness me! Explosante-fixe is certainly a brilliant work which I missed in my original list. I'm glad you enjoy it, James! 8)
Quotehe didn't compose many other electroacoustic pieces did he?
He did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHH8lRtgBg
Quote from: aleazk on August 19, 2016, 09:12:50 PM
He did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHH8lRtgBg
This is the one I was thinking of earlier, actually, but I don't recall listening to it all ever.
Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on August 21, 2016, 07:09:04 PM
Milton Babbitt – Correspondences for string orchestra and synthesized tape
I haven't heard this piece for a long time!!! Almost forgot it existed :laugh:
Some of my favorites would be:
Ashley - Tap Dancing in the Sand
Berio - Visage
Boulez - Repons
Ferrari - Presque rien
Grisey - Vortex Temporum
Nono - Prometeo
Radigue - L'île re-sonante
Stockhausen - Telemusik
Xenakis - La légende d'Eer
Orphée 53 is pretty damn good! 8)
I've been kinda busy lately, and right at the moment is only a very brief break in the busy-ness, but I always feel I should try to respond to requests like this.
The other problem is that I listen largely to works that use electricity somehow, so this is a bit like asking me for my favorite works.
Impossible.
The other other problem is that the way I learned about electroacoustic music was first by simply buying every LP that had the word "electronic" in its title--electronic being the preferred umbrella term in the US in the 60s and 70s. Second, I started going to concerts with electroacoustic music, then festivals--meeting dozens of people who are not only very talented musicians but really charming people, too.
And it's hard to rank your friends.
So I want to play, but all I can do is throw my hands in the air and give up.
I hope more people join in, though. I hope more people listen to more electroacoustic music. More than just the usual suspects, too. Amacher, Bokanawski, Bruemmer, Calon, Dhomont, Dumitrescu, Eckert, eRikm, Ferreyra, Groult, Hanson, Harrison, Jeck, KK Null, Marchetti, Marchetti, Noetinger, Parmegiani, Rowe, Stollery, Truax, Wishart, Yoshihide, Z'ev. There may be more....
Some guy, could you perhaps point me in the direction of a few works from a couple of those composers you mention? I'd be interested in exploring more music, but the sheer amount of music in existence makes me wonder where to start! I'm grateful we have places like GMG where we can share our thoughts and recommendations though :)
I know that a lot of stuff by these people has found its way onto youtube, but I don't know what.
And I don't want to recommend a bunch of stuff that can only be found on perhaps hard to locate CDs.
But "oh well."
Pieces by Dumitrescu and Ana-Maria Avram are available on their Edition Modern label. I haven't talked to them in a long time, so I don't know how much they've put out recently. And in recent years, their proficiency in English has dropped pretty dramatically. I have never had any sort of proficiency in Romanian.
But there's a sweet CD on Musique-Action '98 with pieces by Dumitrescu, Avram, Cutler, and one of my favorite pieces by Tim Hodgkinson. You can easy get that, in virtual or actual form, at the ReR site, which is a treasure chest of cool music. (Also the Emprientes Digitales site has a lot of the people I mentioned and so many more.) I'm afraid I'm not very good at narrowing. And you wanted somewhere to start.
Well, my sense would be that you could start anywhere. And youtube is free and easy to surf.
I know that Brümmer's Speed is on youtube. That's a nice piece. Pretty sure I remember seeing some Amacher there, too. There's one or two really high quality videos on Vimeo with Andrea Neumann. There's a bunch of stuff on Soundcloud and Bandcamp, too, which are nightmares to surf but have a ton of cool stuff if you already know what you want to hear. Not sure how many of the names I've already mentioned are on Bandcamp. I know that Lionel Marchetti has put everything of his on Bandcamp, and is adding to it daily it seems. Also a Portland, OR guy named Doug Theriault has a lot of stuff on Bandcamp. I like his Orange a lot, and Image Not Available, but seriously, there's so much good stuff, PLUS, there's the whole "you might not like the things I like" thing, too.
Otherwise, I love Bokanowski's L'etoile Absinthe quite a lot. This is available by itself on a three inch Metamkine CD (part of their 30 CD Cinema pour l'oreille series) or on a five inch CD coupled with its companion piece, Chant ombre.
There. That should really be enough to get you started. :)
Thanks a lot, some guy! I'll check these ones out initially and see where it leads me :)
I'm sure Richard Barrett's a very nice young man, but if you want really cool electroacoustic music, you want Natasha Barrett (no relation). Also, the Natasha you want is the Brit living in Oslo Natasha, not the America newscaster.
To make Google cough up the right one, you have to put Natasha Barrett composer.
But really, as I've already said, there is so much more.
Emmanuelle Gibello's about as inventive as it's possible to imagine. Elsa Justel and Christine Groult are probably as unknown as it's possible to imagine. Both really strong, fine composers.
Yeah. Lotta nice stuff out there. Try to find Jonathan Berger's Meteora if you can. That's a real thriller.
(I like Richard Barrett, too, just by the way. :) )
I've been seriously neglecting electronic music lately and feel kind of bad about it, like I'm turning into one of those stodgy old ladies who complains about Stravinsky being just too modern for her. Seems like I listen to nothing but Bach and Beethoven now. But anyway.
These are the ones I can remember listening to lately that really struck a chord somewhere
Luc Ferrari - Presque Rien
Luc Ferrari - Danses organiques
Yannis Kyriakides - The Thing Like Us
Richard Barrett - life-form
Natasha Barrett - Industrial Revelations
Denis Smalley - Tides
Francisco López - La Selva
Olivia Block - Pure Gaze
Roland Kayn - Tektra
Roland Kayn - Simultan
Vanessa Rossetto - Dogs in English Porcelain
Vanessa Rossetto - Whoreson in the Wilderness
Benedict Mason - felt | ebb | thus | brink | here | array | telling
There's a lot of stuff that I feel I should know but don't, or feel I should like better and don't. Oh well