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The Music Room => Name That Tune? => Topic started by: pjme on January 30, 2017, 05:50:46 AM

Title: A quest of many years!
Post by: pjme on January 30, 2017, 05:50:46 AM
https://soundcloud.com/raygunsound/nonkel-eddy-v1-ori


Mr. Demolder from Belgiuml apparently is looking for this violin+ orchestra work for more than 50 years! He'll be 86 soon and hopes to find this long lost (but never forgotten) melody.
It is not the slow movement from Mendelssohs violin concerto, nor the Méditation de  Thais...
It definitely is a rather popular work : he remembers having heard it on an 78 rpm and was discouraged by his musicteacher to learn it: This is nothing for you, it is too difficumt...

Any ideas?

Peter
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Cato on February 01, 2017, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: pjme on January 30, 2017, 05:50:46 AM
https://soundcloud.com/raygunsound/nonkel-eddy-v1-ori


Mr. Demolder from Belgiuml apparently is looking for this violin+ orchestra work for more than 50 years! He'll be 86 soon and hopes to find this long lost (but never forgotten) melody.
It is not the slow movement from Mendelssohs violin concerto, nor the Méditation de  Thais...
It definitely is a rather popular work : he remembers having heard it on an 78 rpm and was discouraged by his musicteacher to learn it: This is nothing for you, it is too difficumt...

Any ideas?

Peter

Is it too obvious - since the man is from Belgium - to suggest the concerti of Vieuxtemps, Ysaye, and de Beriot as a starting point?

I have not heard all of them by any means, but the Adagio of the Vieuxtemps Violin Concerto has a melody similar to what he is remembering.  And who knows how reliable his memory may be?
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: pjme on February 02, 2017, 11:41:06 AM
Many thanks! Ill keep you informed.
And indeed - after so many years his memory easily could be ..rather unreliable.

Peter
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Brian on March 03, 2017, 06:44:27 AM
I am 100% certain I have heard this before. Let me do some checking...
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Brian on March 03, 2017, 07:22:59 AM
Yes, it is Henri Vieuxtemps' Violin Concerto No. 5 in A minor, "Gretry"
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: pjme on March 07, 2017, 09:13:37 AM
Many thanks. I'm waiting for a reply from mr. Demolder's family...

Au revoir,

Peter
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Cato on March 09, 2017, 03:52:46 AM
Quote from: Brian on March 03, 2017, 07:22:59 AM
Yes, it is Henri Vieuxtemps' Violin Concerto No. 5 in A minor, "Gretry"

I was wondering about that!  Do you also hear it in the slow movement?
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Karl Henning on March 09, 2017, 03:54:48 AM
Fascinating endeavor!
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Brian on March 09, 2017, 06:10:43 AM
Quote from: Cato on March 09, 2017, 03:52:46 AM
Do you also hear it in the slow movement?
Yes!

I had not listened to that concerto in many years. I associated it with an unfortunate event about a decade ago and tried to avoid it for some time after that...but listening to the concerto again this week (including once more, now), I am reminded that it really is a very good and very concise romantic piece with, as Mr. Demolder knows, beautiful melodies!
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Cato on March 09, 2017, 06:34:12 AM
Quote from: Cato on February 01, 2017, 10:43:32 AM
I have not heard all of them by any means, but the Adagio of the Vieuxtemps Violin Concerto has a melody similar to what he is remembering.  And who knows how reliable his memory may be?

Quote from: Brian on March 03, 2017, 07:22:59 AM
Yes, it is Henri Vieuxtemps' Violin Concerto No. 5 in A minor, "Gretry"



Quote from: Cato on March 09, 2017, 03:52:46 AM
I was wondering about that!  Do you also hear it in the slow movement?

Quote from: Brian on March 09, 2017, 06:10:43 AM
Yes!

I had not listened to that concerto in many years...

Probably 50 years have gone by in my case!  But the old  :o  memory for music is still working well! ;)

Anyway, I hope that "the quest of many years" has now come to a successful end!
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Brian on March 09, 2017, 06:58:11 AM
Quote from: Cato on March 09, 2017, 06:34:12 AM
Probably 50 years have gone by in my case!  But the old  :o  memory for music is still working well! ;)
Wow, I hope that my memory works that well in 50 years...heck, I hope it works that well in 5!
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Cato on March 09, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
Quote from: Brian on March 09, 2017, 06:58:11 AM
Wow, I hope that my memory works that well in 50 years...heck, I hope it works that well in 5!

Mrs. Cato has been known to wonder why my memory can recognize a tune after only a few notes, but failed  e.g. in remembering to pay the dentist! ;)

Perhaps if the dentist had played Lohengrin  :o :o :o  or Pelleas et Molarsande ??? ??? ???
I would have remembered to stop by and pay the bill! 0:)
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Karl Henning on March 09, 2017, 08:23:18 AM
Or the Bridge Variations
Title: Re: A quest of many years!
Post by: Monsieur Croche on March 11, 2017, 04:12:03 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 09, 2017, 08:23:18 AM
Or the Bridge Variations

Too,. there must be at least one stirring work song / folk tune from the blokes who hauled barges down the old Root Canal.