Greatest/Favourite - up to you.
Greatest:
Bruckner: favourite recording: Horenstein Vox/Turnabout or BBC Legends
Shostakovich: favourite recording: Previn, LSO (EMI version)
Favourites:
Rubbra: a magical score: favourite recording, Del Mar (Lyrita)
Havergal Brian (Groves RLPO)
Glazunov (many good recordings)
Vagn Holmboe (Semkow: Vox/Turnabout - not on CD >:()
Rautavaara (Naxos but Ondine and BIS versions are all fine)
Pettersson: Commissiona Baltimore SO DGG LP - not on CD >:(
I currently only have 6 and a quarter.
Beethoven!
Schubert! (C Major)
Dvorak!
Rautavaara
Atterberg
Shostakovich
Bruckner (adagio only)
EDIT: added Atterberg
Hmm...eight eighths in relative order of preference...
Bruckner
Mahler
Beethoven
Haydn
Shostakovich
Dvorak
Sessions
Vaughan Williams
Havergal Brian (Groves)
Mahler (Chailly)
Bruckner (Maazel/Berlin)
Dvorak (Giulini/Chicago)
Arnold (Gamba)
Beethoven (Norrington/LCP)
Vaughan Williams (Haitink)
Atterberg (Rasilainen)
Quote from: Brian on March 09, 2017, 01:03:09 PM
I currently only have 6 and a quarter.
Beethoven!
Schubert! (C Major)
Dvorak!
Rautavaara
Atterberg
Shostakovich
Bruckner (adagio only)
EDIT: added Atterberg
I would choose the slow movement of the Atterberg which is wonderful.
Not a very adventurous list, but these are some real classics...
Haydn Kijken/La Petite Bande
Beethoven Vanska/Minn
Schubert Either Unfinished or Great C Major, whichever one works ;) Harnoncourt/RPO
Dvorak Kubelik/BPO
Bruckner Wand/BPO
Glass Davies/Bruckner Linz
Mahler Boulez/Staat.Berlin
Too bad Sibelius and Prokofiev didn't make it to 8.
Excellent lists, mine would be similar, but here is someone whose 8th Symphony, one of the greatest 20th century masterpieces, has not been chosen:
KARL AMADEUS HARTMANN!
https://www.youtube.com/v/U6MbSmJH4xQ
Bruckner (Giulini, DG)
Schubert (Giulini, DG if Unfinished; Hengelbrock if Great C Major)
Dvorak (Giulini, EMI)
Beethoven (Chailly)
Shostakovich (Mravinsky)
Mahler (Nagano)
Vaughn Williams (Previn)
Rautavaara (Franck)
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 09, 2017, 04:37:04 PM
Too bad Sibelius and Prokofiev didn't make it to 8.
No worries. One day someone will find a page and half of sketches and complete them.
Pettersson
Beethoven
Dvorak
Bruckner
Schubert
Atterberg
Aho
Rubbra
Beethoven - Krivine
Schubert C major - Bernstein NYPO, apparently
Dvořák - anyone
Bruckner - Jochum St Florian
Hartmann - Kubelík
I guess Mahler and RVW and Nørgård for the remainder but wow, there aren't really that many eighth symphonies >_>
These lists have become a classic :P
There aren't many options, so...
Dvorák
Shostakovich
Bruckner
Vaughan Williams
Rautavaara
Arnold
Schubert (B minor)
Glazunov
Mahler didn't blow me here :(
I need to listen to some of your favorites (Holmboe, Pettersson, Atterberg, Glass, Rubbra and possibly Miaskovsky)
Only Bruckner, RVW, Shostakovich, and Dvořák come to mind immediately, but that's about it. There's really not much to choose from here.
Quote from: SymphonicAddict on March 09, 2017, 08:00:30 PM
These lists have become a classic :P
There aren't many options, so...
Dvorák
Shostakovich
Bruckner
Vaughan Williams
Rautavaara
Arnold
Schubert (B minor)
Glazunov
Mahler didn't blow me here :(
I need to listen to some of your favorites (Holmboe, Pettersson, Atterberg, Glass, Rubbra and possibly Miaskovsky)
The slow movement of the Miaskovsky is very fine - once described as the music of 'A Russian Delius of the Steppes'. :)
Must listen to the Aho and Glass.
Thanks for all the replies - read with much interest.
Another variation on a familiar theme. Agree with many of you, but think nobody mentioned Tournemire and Tubin so far:
Arnold (Handley)
Brian (Groves)
Bruckner (Kubelik)
Holmboe (Hughes)
Shostakovich (Haitink)
Tournemire (Bartholomée)
Tubin (Järvi père)
Vaughan Williams (Thomson)
Wild card: Röntgen (Porcelijn)
Dvořák | Giulini, CSO (was listening to this just a couple of days ago — coincidence?_?_?) 8)
Bruckner | Wand, Berliner Philharmoniker
Langgaard « Minder ved Amalienborg » | Dausgaard, Danish Radio
Hartmann | Metzmacher, Bamberger
Schuman | Lenny, NY Phil
Wuorinen « Theologoumena » | Levine, BSO 8)
Shostakovich | Jansons, Pbgh
Vaughan Williams | Bakels, Bournemouth
Honorable Mention:
Mennin | Columbus Symphony
Tubin | Järvi, Swedish Radio
For those who hold there's little choice - not mentioned so far, AFAIK:
Englund
Sallinen
Rosenberg
Piston
Frankel
Søderlind
Tüur
Sæverud
Wellesz
Tansman
Kinsella
Schuman
Panufnik
Hoddinott
Marttinen
Schnittke
Simpson
Diamond
Malipiero
Villa-Lobos
Moyzes
Josephs
Fernström
Hill
Lloyd
Nørholm
Milhaud
Harris
Santoro
Meulemans
Badings
Douglas
Langgaard
Coates
Weinberg
Cowell
Ivanovs
Bentzon
Kozeluch
Mozart
Fordell
Hovhaness
Bourgeois
Haydn
Dittersdorf
Segerstam
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 10, 2017, 01:04:08 AM
Langgaard « Minder ved Amalienborg » | Dausgaard, Danish Radio
:-)
Hi, Karl. :-[
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 10, 2017, 08:41:30 AMDidn't mean to pile on, old bean!
:D Should have mentioned the Schuman 8 myself - his most impressive IMHo.
Quote from: Todd on March 09, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
Bruckner (Giulini, DG)
Schubert (Giulini, DG if Unfinished; Hengelbrock if Great C Major)
Dvorak (Giulini, EMI)
Beethoven (Chailly)
Shostakovich (Mravinsky)
Mahler (Nagano)
Vaughn Williams (Previn)
Rautavaara (Franck)
The Previn VW is by far the greatest IMHO as are his LSO versions of 2 and 3.
Quote from: Christo on March 10, 2017, 02:28:52 AM
For those who hold there's little choice - not mentioned so far, AFAIK:
Englund
Sallinen
Rosenberg
Piston
Frankel
Søderlind
Tüur
Sæverud
Wellesz
Tansman
Kinsella
Schuman
Panufnik
Hoddinott
Marttinen
Schnittke
Simpson
Diamond
Malipiero
Villa-Lobos
Moyzes
Josephs
Fernström
Hill
Lloyd
Nørholm
Milhaud
Harris
Santoro
Meulemans
Badings
Douglas
Langgaard
Coates
Weinberg
Cowell
Ivanovs
Bentzon
Kozeluch
Mozart
Fordell
Hovhaness
Bourgeois
Haydn
Dittersdorf
Segerstam
Thanks for this. The Lloyd is one of his best and the first on LP I seem to remember - it created quite a stir when released.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 10, 2017, 12:02:49 PM
Thanks for this. The Lloyd is one of his best and the first on LP I seem to remember - it created quite a stir when released.
I'm a fan of Lloyd's symphonies but the 8th is my least favorite (which is one reason it didn't make my list). I think the last movement is too long, unvaried and frantic. But I should give it another chance.
Sarge
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 10, 2017, 01:04:08 AM
Dvořák | Giulini, CSO (was listening to this just a couple of days ago — coincidence?_?_?) 8)
That's my favorite Dvorak Eighth too.
Sarge
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 10, 2017, 02:06:37 PM
That's my favorite Dvorak Eighth too.
Sarge
Better than Giulini and Philharmonia? I've always liked that one, never heard the CSO recording.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 10, 2017, 02:23:38 PM
Better than Giulini and Philharmonia?
I don't know. Haven't heard his Philharmonia performance.
Sarge
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 10, 2017, 02:05:15 PM
I'm a fan of Lloyd's symphonies but the 8th is my least favorite (which is one reason it didn't make my list). I think the last movement is too long, unvaried and frantic. But I should give it another chance.
Sarge
Has a moving and memorable slow movement though.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 09, 2017, 04:37:04 PM
Glass Davies/Bruckner Linz
+1. I think this is one of his most varied and impressive scores.
Against all odds, this work succeeds in adding something certifiably new to the overstuffed annals of the classical symphony. There are three sections: a twenty-minute movement in moderate tempo, a twelve minute passacaglia slow movement, and a final movement that is slightly slower than the second and about half as long. The musical material is cut from familiar fabric, but it's striking that the composer forgoes the expected bustling conclusion and instead delves into a mood of deepening twilight and unending night." -
Alex Ross
Quote from: aesthetic on March 11, 2017, 02:22:18 AM
+1. I think this is one of his most varied and impressive scores.
Against all odds, this work succeeds in adding something certifiably new to the overstuffed annals of the classical symphony. There are three sections: a twenty-minute movement in moderate tempo, a twelve minute passacaglia slow movement, and a final movement that is slightly slower than the second and about half as long. The musical material is cut from familiar fabric, but it's striking that the composer forgoes the expected bustling conclusion and instead delves into a mood of deepening twilight and unending night." - Alex Ross
Agreed, and great quote from Ross. The structure and tone of the 3 mvts has always fascinated me, which Ross so perfectly describes. And for that I often consider it Glass' best symphony.
Thanks for the post, aesthetic.
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on March 11, 2017, 02:29:49 AM
The structure and tone of the 3 mvts has always fascinated me ...
Good stuff. :)
btw, an interesting quote from Glass himself:
"At first I wrote symphonies because Dennis Russell Davies asked me to. Now I write symphonies to see what they sound like."
http://philipglass.com/glassnotes/glass-notes-new-interview-with-philip-glass-in-advance-of-the-the-premiere-of-his-new-symphony/
Quote from: aesthetic on March 11, 2017, 02:42:38 AM
Good stuff. :)
btw, an interesting quote from Glass himself:
"At first I wrote symphonies because Dennis Russell Davies asked me to. Now I write symphonies to see what they sound like."
http://philipglass.com/glassnotes/glass-notes-new-interview-with-philip-glass-in-advance-of-the-the-premiere-of-his-new-symphony/
Thanks for the article!
I was at Carnegie Hall in January for the premiere of Glass' 11th Symphony, such a memorable event.
Well, I started to compile a list, and I don't think I've even heard eight 8th Symphonies. Many of my favourite composers never got anywhere near that many symphonies. I mean, how many French examples of a Symphony No. 2 are there, let alone No. 8?!
Quote from: Mirror Image on March 09, 2017, 08:04:51 PM
Only Bruckner, RVW, Shostakovich, and Dvořák come to mind immediately, but that's about it. There's really not much to choose from here.
I think you only forgot about Schnittke's 8th here, or? ;)
I remember we agreed that this is his best symphony, despite there are some strong contenders in his oeuvre.
Holmboe.
I'm not sure I need any more. Though Beethoven and Schubert (I'm calling the C major no.8 these days) and Dvorak are excellent. And from a first listen I think that was one of Tubin's finest. But Holmboe's 8th is flat out essential as a piece of Holmboe.
Quote from: ørfeo on March 17, 2017, 04:01:07 AM
Holmboe.
I'm not sure I need any more. Though Beethoven and Schubert (I'm calling the C major no.8 these days) and Dvorak are excellent. And from a first listen I think that was one of Tubin's finest. But Holmboe's 8th is flat out essential as a piece of Holmboe.
Goldarnit, I always miss somebody . . . .
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 17, 2017, 04:14:35 AM
Goldarnit, I always miss somebody . . . .
It was right there in the opening post of the thread, too.
Quote from: ørfeo on March 17, 2017, 04:16:36 AMIt was right there in the opening post of the thread, too.
And in mine:
Quote from: Christo on March 10, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Another variation on a familiar theme. Agree with many of you, but think nobody mentioned Tournemire and Tubin so far:
Arnold (Handley)
Brian (Groves)
Bruckner (Kubelik)
Holmboe (Hughes)
Shostakovich (Haitink)
Tournemire (Bartholomée)
Tubin (Järvi père)
Vaughan Williams (Thomson)
Wild card: Röntgen (Porcelijn)
Quote from: Christo on March 10, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Another variation on a familiar theme. Agree with many of you, but think nobody mentioned Tournemire and Tubin so far:
Arnold (Handley)
Brian (Groves)
Bruckner (Kubelik)
Holmboe (Hughes)
Shostakovich (Haitink)
Tournemire (Bartholomée)
Tubin (Järvi père)
Vaughan Williams (Thomson)
Wild card: Röntgen (Porcelijn)
I increasingly appreciate Haitink's Shostakovich recordings, especially symphonies 8 and 13. I saw him conduct No.8 in London and remember it as a great performance.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 18, 2017, 04:33:50 AM
I increasingly appreciate Haitink's Shostakovich recordings, especially symphonies 8 and 13. I saw him conduct No.8 on London and remember it as a great performance.
Excellent!
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 18, 2017, 05:16:41 AM
Excellent!
It's a concert that really stands out in my memory. Another one was John Pritchard conducting Symphony 11 'The Year 1905' which eventually appeared on a BBC Radio Classics CD.
Quote from: vandermolen on March 18, 2017, 04:33:50 AM
I increasingly appreciate Haitink's Shostakovich recordings, especially symphonies 8 and 13. I saw him conduct No.8 in London and remember it as a great performance.
Totally agree. His no 15 is a particular personal favorite.