Aside from the big names and their warhorses, what other works of this kind are worth checking out? Do you have any favorites (big names and their warhorses included, this time)?
Obviously among my favourites: Ravel's Ma mère l'Oye and L'enfant et les sortilèges. Schumann's Kinderszenen too. And Berlioz's L'enfance du Christ 0:)
Elgar Wand of Youth, Dream Children and Nursery Suite.
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Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 01:32:59 AM
Aside from the big names and their warhorses, what other works of this kind are worth checking out? Do you have any favorites (big names and their warhorses included, this time)?
Assuming you mean the Prokofiev and Saint-Saens here (and not replicating what's already been said):
Tchaikovsky: Album pour enfants
Chaminade: Album pour enfants
Debussy: Children's Corner
Bizet: Jeux d'enfants
This album would be an ideal starting point for this sort of thing:
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Ligeti - Lontano (the opening and closing of "a window on long submerged dream worlds of childhood")
Stockhausen - Gesang der Jungling
But Kinderszenen is the first and greatest
Dallapiccola, Quaderno Musicale di Annalibera
http://www.youtube.com/v/Kb6PxV6f4C4
Thank you all for the recs, will check them asap.
By big names I meant Schumann, Faure, Ravel, Prokofiev, Saint-Saens, maybe even Bizet and Tchaikovsky.
Heitor Villa-Lobos has two nice piano suites titled A prole do bebe (The baby's family).
There's also Mendelssohn's Kinderstücke op. 72, Deodat de Severac's En vacances (premier recueil) and Le soldat de plomb --- I highly recommend them.
My all time favorites are Kinderszenen, Album fur de Jugend, Dolly, Jeux d'enfants (Bizet) and the above mentioned En vacances
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 18, 2017, 05:51:45 AM
Dallapiccola, Quaderno Musicale di Annalibera
http://www.youtube.com/v/Kb6PxV6f4C4
This is nice. It reminds me of
Mompou's
Musica callada.
Bartók, A Gyermekeknek, of course.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 18, 2017, 09:45:48 AM
Bartók, A Gyermekeknek, of course.
That should indeed be a beauty. Must check my
Kocsis set soon. 8)
got this one recently. Very nice
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and if you havent seen suzie tempelton anime on peter and the wolf, you must remedy this subito presto
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Quote from: Spineur on May 18, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
got this one recently. Very nice
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Wishlisted.
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and if you havent seen suzie tempelton anime on peter and the wolf, you must remedy this subito presto
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Wow! Looks like something my 4-year son who is quite fond of anime might be interested in! Thanks a lot for that!
Is there an age "window" ?
My 6th Graders have heard Mozart's Waisenhausmesse (composed when he was 11 or 12) and excerpts from his opera Apollo et Hyacinthus.
How about the Franz Von Suppe' overtures, which appeared in a good number of classic cartoons?
You could of course visit the Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, and Walter Lantz cartoons of the 1930's, 1940's and early 1950's for all kinds of Classical Kids stuff!
But if you just want them to hear the music, people have put together medleys on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/v/GrjxtNYhTCc
https://www.youtube.com/v/R7gNNA-GdsA
And of course...Bugs Bunny as Leopold!!!
https://archive.org/details/LongHairedHare (https://archive.org/details/LongHairedHare)
Quote from: Cato on May 18, 2017, 10:51:10 AM
My 6th Graders have heard Mozart's Waisenhausmesse (composed when he was 11 or 12) and excerpts from his opera Apollo et Hyacinthus.
This is music
by, not for or about, a child. ;D
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How about the Franz Von Suppe' overtures, which appeared in a good number of classic cartoons?
Were they written expressly for, or about, children? ;D
Quote from: Florestan on May 18, 2017, 10:58:50 AM
Were they written expressly for, or about, children? ;D
Well, as far as I know, the answer is yes for the
Mozart works (the opera was for a school play, and the
Mass was for the orphans and their new chapel, and apparently the music was sung at the premiere by a choir of orphans conducted by the 12-year old composer) and "sort of yes" $:) for the latter, as a number of
von Suppe overtures have found their way into children's cartoons. 0:)
Check out
John Zorn's Cat o' Nine Tails, influenced by cartoon music:
https://www.youtube.com/v/rLp_1xh34X0
a little darker, Dutilleux's Shadows of Time was written in memory of Anne Frank and other children lost in the Holocaust
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 18, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
a little darker, Dutilleux's Shadows of Time was written in memory of Anne Frank and other children lost in the Holocaust
Oh, that reminds me of
Hans Krása's
Brundibár (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brundib%C3%A1r) - children's opera performed by the children in Theresienstadt.
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
Quote from: DaveF on May 18, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
The golden vanity is really a piece for children. It is included in this CD which has Dutilleux carnet de bord also an easy choral work for children. Thee Daniel-Lesur on this disk is an adaptation of folk songs.
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Quote from: DaveF on May 18, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
The Michael Jackson of classical music
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Elgar Wand of Youth, Dream Children and Nursery Suite.
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Quote from: DaveF on May 18, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
NOYE'S FLUDDE !https://www.youtube.com/v/ughJeJ4LJD0
Two recordings spring immediately to mind :
Quote from: DaveF on May 18, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Britten - lots of Britten (all of Britten?)
Ooooooooppoo!
I'm really seriously going to be the first to mention Orff?
A vote from me for Ravel's 'Mother Goose' a charming and delightful work and Elgar's 'Nursery Suite', especially 'The Wagon Passes'. Plus 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' by Dukas.
The Wagon Passes:
https://youtu.be/97zWoAuNnOc
More stuff from France:
Florent Schmitt's delightful Une semaine du petit elfe Ferme-l'Oeil, Op.58, for piano four hands...
https://www.youtube.com/v/oC1NhcwGo3I
...and expanded into a ballet, Le petit elfe Ferme-l'Oeil, op. 73:
https://www.youtube.com/v/8KdHrjpPSTs
And, of course, from Romania, George Enescu's Impressions d'enfance, op. 28:
https://www.youtube.com/v/IfkDtg44soQ
Regards,
There's always Oliver Knussen's Where the Wild Things Are.
And from South America:
Heitor Villa-Lobos's A prole do bebê...
https://www.youtube.com/v/9hBKRv6Usdk
...and Alberto Ginastera's Piezas infantiles:
https://www.youtube.com/v/I2jMLiKETeo
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The Michael Jackson of classical music
Pure coincidence that he named a pet hedgehog "Muscles."
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Hey Cato haven't seen you in ages! :D
I'm very reluctant on that one, as it's more of an ode to a bunch of his influences at the time (including Stalling, Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, Ives, Xenakis and some sincere polka and country pastiches added too). I agree though that it is quite a "breezy" piece, I love it (as you'd know)
But he DOES have an album called (that's right): Music For Children
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And I don't quite know exactly what it has to do with children but he did compose a piece in 1996 of the same name (featured on that CD) for violin, piano and percussion. ;)
Cheers man, good to see you around 8)
It is the end of the school year, so all kinds of annoying duties are swirling around me. ???
Check your messages later! 8)
Modest Mussorgsky ~ The Nursery, song cycle
Igor Stravinsky ~ Trois pièces faciles & Cinq pièces faciles, piano four-hands / Pour les cing doigts piano solo.
[Technically, Stravinsky's intended the chorus for the Symphony of Psalms to be all male, i.e. boy trebles.]
Béla Bartók ~ Mikrokosmos, piano
Alexander Tcherepnin ~ Bagatelles, Op.5, piano
Francis Poulenc ~ L'Histoire de Babar, le petit éléphant, for narrator and piano (s'wonderful:-)
Robert Muczynski ~ Six Preludes, Op. 6., piano
Octavio Pinto ~ Scenas infantis, piano
Aram Katchaturian ~ The Adventures of Ivan, piano
Englebert Humperdinck ~ Hansel und Gretel
Aaron Copland ~ Down a country Lane, piano / The Second Hurricane, opera for school children.
Benjamin Britten ~ Curlew River about a (lost) child.
Gian-Carlo Menotti ~ Amahl and the Night Visitors
Someone has mentioned Orff; apart from his scads of utility music for children,
his cantata, Der Mond
Toru Takemitsu ~ Piano pieces for children
Michael Colgrass ~ As Quiet As, orchestra
"4th graders was asked by their teacher to complete the phrase, "As Quiet as...". The composer took seven of their answers: A Leaf Turning Colors; An Uninhabited Creek; An Ant Walking; Children sleeping; Time Passing; A Soft Rainfall; and The First Star Coming Out, basing the work on his imagined sounds for each simile/"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtKKoViSP_I
Sofia Gubaidulina ~ Musical Toys, piano
György Kurtág ~ Játékok (Games) several volumes,. piano four-hands and/or solo (includes improvisation, playing with the teacher, other students.) Wonderful pedagogic volumes of music for kids, listenable for anyone.
Menotti: Help! Help! The Globolinks!
Dvorak wrote his violin sonatina for his children (around 10-12 at the time).
Schumann has a whole bunch besides Kinderszenen: Album für die Jugend, 3 Sonatas "für die Jugend" op.118 and more.
Brahms has a volume "Volkskinderlieder" (arrangements/settings of popular/traditional children songs, I am not sure how many if any melodies are by Brahms) WoO 31 (a few of which are somewhat familiar to me from my own childhood)
Quote from: Monsieur Croche on May 19, 2017, 04:58:51 PM
Béla Bartók ~ Mikrokosmos, piano
Why not Bartok:
For children?
Quote from: Cato on May 18, 2017, 12:11:42 PM
Well, as far as I know, the answer is yes for the Mozart works (the opera was for a school play, and the Mass was for the orphans and their new chapel, and apparently the music was sung at the premiere by a choir of orphans conducted by the 12-year old composer)
Fair enough.
Quote from: Monsieur Croche on May 19, 2017, 04:58:51 PM
Modest Mussorgsky ~ The Nursery, song cycle
Igor Stravinsky ~ Trois pièces faciles & Cinq pièces faciles, piano four-hands / Pour les cing doigts piano solo.
[Technically, Stravinsky's intended the chorus for the Symphony of Psalms to be all male, i.e. boy trebles.]
Béla Bartók ~ Mikrokosmos, piano
Alexander Tcherepnin ~ Bagatelles, Op.5, piano
Francis Poulenc ~ L'Histoire de Babar, le petit éléphant, for narrator and piano (s'wonderful:-)
Robert Muczynski ~ Six Preludes, Op. 6., piano
Octavio Pinto ~ Scenas infantis, piano
Aram Katchaturian ~ The Adventures of Ivan, piano
Englebert Humperdinck ~ Hansel und Gretel
Aaron Copland ~ Down a country Lane, piano / The Second Hurricane, opera for school children.
Benjamin Britten ~ Curlew River about a (lost) child.
Gian-Carlo Menotti ~ Amahl and the Night Visitors
Someone has mentioned Orff; apart from his scads of utility music for children,
his cantata, Der Mond
Toru Takemitsu ~ Piano pieces for children
Michael Colgrass ~ As Quiet As, orchestra
"4th graders was asked by their teacher to complete the phrase, "As Quiet as...". The composer took seven of their answers: A Leaf Turning Colors; An Uninhabited Creek; An Ant Walking; Children sleeping; Time Passing; A Soft Rainfall; and The First Star Coming Out, basing the work on his imagined sounds for each simile/"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtKKoViSP_I
Sofia Gubaidulina~ Musical Toys, piano
yörgy Kurtág ~ Játékok (Games) several volumes,. piano four-hands and/or solo (includes improvisation, playing with the teacher, other students.) Wonderful pedagogic volumes of music for kids, listenable for anyone.
Quote from: Jo498 on May 20, 2017, 12:45:27 AM
Menotti: Help! Help! The Globolinks!
Dvorak wrote his violin sonatina for his children (around 10-12 at the time).
Schumann has a whole bunch besides Kinderszenen: Album für die Jugend, 3 Sonatas "für die Jugend" op.118 and more.
Brahms has a volume "Volkskinderlieder" (arrangements/settings of popular/traditional children songs, I am not sure how many if any melodies are by Brahms) WoO 31 (a few of which are somewhat familiar to me from my own childhood)
Good ones, gents! Thank you!
Off topic but it fits...
I was at the library today. A young girl was there with her mother, she was 8 or 10. She is learning the cello. There was a binder full of CDs, not sure how many but a goodly number, all classical. They were looking through it, and the girl wanted it, so she bought it ($10, a SDCB) with her own money. Quite marvelous.
Music for one child at least!
Strauss Schlagobers (Whipped Cream), Op. 70. A ballet in two acts. The story is about a group of children celebrating their confirmation in a Konditorei or Viennese pastry shop, where the confections come to life, with marzipan marches and cocoa dances. Having overindulged, one boy falls ill and hallucinates, leading to the party of Princess Pralinée, a trio of amorous liquors, and a riot of cakes pacified by beer.
Sarge
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on May 20, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
Strauss Schlagobers (Whipped Cream), Op. 70. A ballet in two acts. The story is about a group of children celebrating their confirmation in a Konditorei or Viennese pastry shop, where the confections come to life, with marzipan marches and cocoa dances. Having overindulged, one boy falls ill and hallucinates, leading to the party of Princess Pralinée, a trio of amorous liquors, and a riot of cakes pacified by beer.
Sarge
8)
Bayer: Die Puppenfee/The Fairy Doll.
"...a wonderful fairytale, pure Hoffmann" - Alexandre Benois.
Some guy takes his children to a toy shop to buy them a doll. The owner of the shop shows them his stock of mechanical dolls, like a Chinese doll, a Japanese doll, a baby doll, a Spanish doll, a Hungarian(?) a harlequin and also the Fairy Doll, the most special (;))
The guy buys the Fairy Doll for his children. For some reason she stays in the shop overnight. When everyone goes to sleep it's the usual Hoffmann stuff and the Fairy Doll comes to life and brings the others to life along with a chess board and toymaking tools and kitchen appliances and they all dance.
The one time I've seen it (think it was a youth ballet production) it was certainly aimed at children and they made up most of the audience.
The pas de trois is especially charming and humourous, but also appealing to adults because they can see how the Fairy Doll is frankly, kind of a
teaser.
Here's Lara 'Legs' Lezhnina dancing it at the Mariinsky with two dudes I can't remember the name of.
https://www.youtube.com/v/3lduZ7Zsv8c
Low-res but worth ten minutes of your time. Really, give it a try.
e: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3lduZ7Zsv8c