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Title: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: schnittkease on July 20, 2017, 02:39:13 PM
A place to discuss composers from Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: Parsifal on July 20, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
Can't think of any?
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: NikF on July 20, 2017, 03:20:20 PM
I can only think of Howard Ferguson.

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Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: schnittkease on July 20, 2017, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on July 20, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
Can't think of any?

I was hoping you could!
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: kishnevi on July 20, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
Wiki to the rescue
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Composers_from_Northern_Ireland
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: vandermolen on July 20, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
The only one I know of is Archibald (A.J.) Potter who was a student if Vaughan Williams. I also have a Northern Irish
university friend called Derek Bell but I'm sure that he's not a composer!

There was a fine CD of Potter's music on Marco Polo including his uncharacteristically dark Sinfonia 'De Profundis' rather in the spirit of VW'4th and 6th symphonies. Unfortunately I can no longer find a trace of that CD online. Here is a link to one of the shorter and rather touching folk-music inspired works:
https://youtu.be/19vd0qSuLYA

PS I found the CD on the American Amazon site:
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Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: Christo on July 20, 2017, 11:02:39 PM
Nice to see Hamilton Harty considered 'Norhern Irish' in retrospect, unlike Protestant Dubliners like John Field and Stanford.
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: schnittkease on July 21, 2017, 08:37:33 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on July 20, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
The only one I know of is Archibald (A.J.) Potter who was a student if Vaughan Williams. I also have a Northern Irish
university friend called Derek Bell but I'm sure that he's not a composer!

There was a fine CD of Potter's music on Marco Polo including his uncharacteristically dark Sinfonia 'De Profundis' rather in the spirit of VW'4th and 6th symphonies. Unfortunately I can no longer find a trace of that CD online. Here is a link to one of the shorter and rather touching folk-music inspired works:
https://youtu.be/19vd0qSuLYA

PS I found the CD on the American Amazon site:
.

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I heard the YouTube video you linked - quite nice. It has a strong French impressionism influence...
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: vandermolen on July 22, 2017, 05:36:20 AM
Quote from: schnittkease on July 21, 2017, 08:37:33 AM
I heard the YouTube video you linked - quite nice. It has a strong French impressionism influence...
Potter's beautifully atmospheric 'Rhapsody under a High Sky' can be found on this very attractive CD:
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Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: lescamil on July 22, 2017, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: schnittkease on July 20, 2017, 02:39:13 PM
A place to discuss composers from Northern Ireland.

They might not like it, but why not just lump them in with all the Irish composers (sans "Northern")?
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: Mapman on September 15, 2023, 06:24:00 PM
I just saw a performance of Joan Trimble's Sonatina for 2 Pianos. It's an impressive work. As the graduate student who introduced the work nicely stated, it has "shadows" of Rachmaninoff and Debussy. The opening theme starts like Rachmaninoff, but has a dissonant twist.

(I wasn't sure which thread to put this in, but she was born in what is now Northern Ireland.)
Title: Re: Northern Irish Composers
Post by: calyptorhynchus on September 16, 2023, 03:10:46 PM
As a footnote to Potter, he was born in Belfast, lived and studied in London and served in the British Army in ww2, then went to live Dublin after the war and stayed there. I think the Northern Ireland description is not very applicable to anything except sectarianism.