GMG Classical Music Forum

We have arrived at Round Two of The String Quartet Game.  As with the previous round, there are 20 string quartets for your voting consideration.  The 3 string quartets ending up with the highest scores will advance to the final round.

Voting Rules:

1.  You may vote once daily.

2.  When you vote, you will have 10 upward points to use as you please except that no work may receive more than 5 points.

3.  Round Two ends with the first work to reach 100 points.

4.  The Half-Time Adjustment is in effect.  With the first work to garner 50 points, the 7 works having the lowest scores will be eliminated from the game; this number could rise if there are ties toward the bottom of the board.

All Aboard:

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 0
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2 (+2)
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 0
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 0
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2 (+2)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 2 (+2)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 0

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 2 (+2)
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 0
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 0
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 2 (+2)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 0
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 2 (+2)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5 (+5)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 2
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 0

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 2 (+2)
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 0
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 3 (+3)
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 2 (+2)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 5
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 7
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 7 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 2
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 0
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 3
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 2

Sorry, guys, I removed my previous post because I wanted to change my votes.

:-[

I'm removing 5 from Arensky and 5 from Beethoven.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2 (+2)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 2
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 7
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4 (+2)
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3 (+3)
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 3
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5 (+3)

San Antone's totals are correct.

Please remember to remove the votes in parentheses from the previous board when you cast your votes.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 7 (+5)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 12 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 3
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0

Reply #5 deleted the Weinberg entry.

Corrected Board:

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 7
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 12
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 3
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8 (+1)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 2
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 12
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 5 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 0
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7 (+4)
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Quote from: Sammy on April 18, 2018, 11:50:02 AM
Reply #5 deleted the Weinberg entry.

Sorry....I should not play the game unless I'm completely sober  ;D

Sarge

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 18, 2018, 12:17:31 PM
Sorry....I should not play the game unless I'm completely sober  ;D

Sarge

Understood.  The only time I make mistakes is when I am sober and feeling rushed.

Quote from: Sammy on April 18, 2018, 11:50:02 AM
Reply #5 deleted the Weinberg entry.

Sergeant Zhdanov.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 5
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 7 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 12
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 5
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 5 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 10 (+5)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 9 (+2)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 12
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 8 (+3)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 0
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 0
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 5
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 10
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 14(+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 14(+2)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 8
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2(+2)
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1(+1)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 5
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

I was just thinking that if a Haydn quartet from each round made the finale, Haydn would have 10 of the thirty slots.  That is something to ponder.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 10
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 14
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 5 (+5)
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 14
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 5
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Quote from: Sammy on April 18, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
I was just thinking that if a Haydn quartet from each round made the finale, Haydn would have 10 of the thirty slots.  That is something to ponder.

Haydn quartets will cannibalize themselves. And the ABH crowd will push some avant-garde work with a vengence.  >:D

Quote from: André on April 18, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
Haydn quartets will cannibalize themselves. And the ABH crowd will push some avant-garde work with a vengence.  >:D

Insert BQ joke here.

What are ABH and BQ?

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 2
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 10
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 14
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 19  (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 10  (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 5 (+3)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 10
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 14
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10 (+5)
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 19
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 10
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 5 (+2)
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Quote from: jessop on April 18, 2018, 05:41:01 PM
What are ABH and BQ?

Anyone But Haydn. I think that means you  :)
Bloc Québécois. A political party in Quebec, but the joke isn't worth explaining.

Quote from: Ken B on April 18, 2018, 07:08:21 PM
Anyone But Haydn. I think that means you  :)
Bloc Québécois. A political party in Quebec, but the joke isn't worth explaining.

I am a big fan of Haydn but unfortunately I haven't listened to his music yet this year! I am certainly not part of the ABH crowd....... :P

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 5
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 11 (+3)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 12 (+2)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 14
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 19
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 15 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 5
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

I have always liked that here in GMG one could really feel to post freely on whatever kind of music. Now things are subtly changing...

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 5
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 5 (+3)
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 11
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2 (+2)
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 19 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 19
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 15
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 5
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Quote from: GioCar on April 18, 2018, 08:15:42 PM


I have always liked that here in GMG one could really feel to post freely on whatever kind of music. Now things are subtly changing...

I have never got the sense that this is changing....what makes you say this?

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 10 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 5
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 11
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 21 (+2)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 19
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 18 (+3)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 5
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 10
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10 (+5)
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 11
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 21
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 24 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 18
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 5
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Quote from: jessop on April 18, 2018, 09:42:01 PM
I have never got the sense that this is changing....what makes you say this?

Well, I could be wrong but some ironic posts...here and there...in this thread but also in the WAYLTN thread re. Adámek's SQ. Never seen them before here.
My feeling is that contemporary/avangarde music is somehow "tolerated" by the great majority of posters in GMG until certain thresholds are not crossed over, such as "rating" avangarde pieces in direct comparison with "traditional" ones.
But as I said, I could (and hope to) be wrong.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 13 (+3)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 11
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 21
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 24
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6 (+2)
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 18
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7 (+2)
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8 (+3)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 7 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 2
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 8
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 0
Crumb - Black Angels - 10
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 14
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 19  (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 4
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 15  (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 3
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 5

Florestan must have used the board at the bottom of the previous page for reference - not a good idea.  I'll take the most recent good board and add Florestan's votes.

Corrected Board:

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 11
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 21
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 24
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 23
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16 (+5)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 21
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 23
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Thanks, Sammy, indeed I hadn't noticed the last correct one on this page.

Quote from: GioCar on April 18, 2018, 11:29:19 PM
Well, I could be wrong but some ironic posts...here and there...in this thread but also in the WAYLTN thread re. Adámek's SQ. Never seen them before here.
My feeling is that contemporary/avangarde music is somehow "tolerated" by the great majority of posters in GMG until certain thresholds are not crossed over, such as "rating" avangarde pieces in direct comparison with "traditional" ones.
But as I said, I could (and hope to) be wrong.

Well, I've been here 15 years now, and IMO, contemporary music is more 'tolerated' than ever before. There has always been a dichotomy between traditional and avant-garde, not violent like I've seen in other places, just a division of tastes. Now, we have more people who claim to enjoy both! Imagine that! :)

To your point, I like the hell out of Shostakovich and Ernest Bloch, to name two people who were writing in my lifetime (not avant-garde, I know, but just an example), but when forced to make a direct comparison with Haydn, Mozart or Beethoven, I have to go with the latter. It is the point of the game, to force you to make choices. I don't prefer Haydn because he makes me comfortable somehow, but because I really do like his music. The quartet on offer here, Op 77 #1 had a mate in F major and in 1799 when they were released, it was a stunner for the crowd. Just saying, everything is relative. I have no problem getting out of the here and now. Not least as self-defense. :)

8)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 5

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 13
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 10
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 10 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 18 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 12
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15 (+5)
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 10

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 23 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 7
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 14 (+2)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 15 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 23
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 10 (+3)
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 19 (+5)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 15

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 25 (+2)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13 (+3)
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 19, 2018, 04:36:25 AM
Well, I've been here 15 years now, and IMO, contemporary music is more 'tolerated' than ever before. There has always been a dichotomy between traditional and avant-garde, not violent like I've seen in other places, just a division of tastes. Now, we have more people who claim to enjoy both! Imagine that! :)

To your point, I like the hell out of Shostakovich and Ernest Bloch, to name two people who were writing in my lifetime (not avant-garde, I know, but just an example), but when forced to make a direct comparison with Haydn, Mozart or Beethoven, I have to go with the latter. It is the point of the game, to force you to make choices. I don't prefer Haydn because he makes me comfortable somehow, but because I really do like his music. The quartet on offer here, Op 77 #1 had a mate in F major and in 1799 when they were released, it was a stunner for the crowd. Just saying, everything is relative. I have no problem getting out of the here and now. Not least as self-defense. :)

8)

As well, from the 250 year history of Quartet writing I see several on this list of 20 from living composers.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7 (+5)
Crumb - Black Angels - 14
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 20 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 23
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 10
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

North Star did not account for the votes of Crudblud.

Corrected Board:

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 19
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 20

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 25
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 24 (+5)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 20

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 30 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Quote from: Ken B on April 19, 2018, 07:04:53 AM
As well, from the 250 year history of Quartet writing I see several on this list of 20 from living composers.

Yes. Just as it should be. :)

8)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 24
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 34 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 20

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 30
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 33 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

You've been voting without me!

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 24
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 34
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 25 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 30
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7 (+5)
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 33
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 21 (+5)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 24
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 34
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 25

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 30
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 23 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 21
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 24
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 34
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 30 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 30
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 23
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 21
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 24
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5 (+5)
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 34
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 30
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 23
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 21
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29 (+5)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 34
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 35 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 23
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 21
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 31 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 39 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 35
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26 (+3)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 21
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 31
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 39
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 35
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9 (+3)
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 9 (+2)
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10 (+2)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26 (+5)
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 31
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 44 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 35
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 9
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 31
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 20 (+5)
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 44
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 35
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 38
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14 (+5)
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 36 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 20
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 44
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 35

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 35
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 43 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 36
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 20
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 44
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 40 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 43
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 36
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25 (+5)
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 44
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45 (+5)
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 43
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 41(+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 49(+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 43
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 7
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 41
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 5
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54  (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 7
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 9
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 48  (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

This is the moment for the Half-Time Adjustment.  The 7 works in single digits are eliminated from the game.

Fresh Board:

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 26
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 41
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54 
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 48 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 31 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 41
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 36 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 26
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 46 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 40
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 36
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31 (+5)
Crumb - Black Angels - 29
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 46
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 45 (+5)
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 45
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 36
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 31 (+2)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 49 (+3)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 45
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 50 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 41 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 31
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 54 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 45
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 50
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 41
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 (+5)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 54
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 54
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 45
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 55 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 41
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 59 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 59 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 45
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 55
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 14
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 59
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 59
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 45
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 55
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19 (+5)
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 10

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 59
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 59
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50 (+5)
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 55
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 53
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15 (+5)

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 31
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 59
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 55
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 58 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 36 (+5)
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 59
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 60 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 58
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 36
Crumb - Black Angels - 36 
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 64 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 60
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  63 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 41 (+5)
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 69 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 60
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  63
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 13
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44 (+3)
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 69
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 65 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  63
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15 (+2)
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 25

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 74 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 65
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  68  (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 46
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 64
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30 (+5)

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 74
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 70 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  68 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 51 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 69 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 74
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 50
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 70
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  68 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 51
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 49 (+5)
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 69
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 74
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55 (+5)
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 70
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  68 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 51
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 49
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 74(+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 79(+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 70
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  68 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15
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Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 51
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44 (+5)
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 74
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 79
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 75 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  68 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44
Crumb - Black Angels - 36
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 74
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 79
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 75
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  73 (+5) 
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 44
Crumb - Black Angels - 37 (+1)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 78 (+4)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 79
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 80 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  73
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 47 (+3)
Crumb - Black Angels - 39 (+2)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 78
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 79
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 80
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  78 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Crudblud raised Beethoven to 54 points, not 44.

Corrected Board (includes my votes):

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 83 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 84 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 80
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  78
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Whoops, sorry about that!

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 86 (+3)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 86 (+2)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 80
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  83 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

It appears that the Dvorak/Haydn/Ligeti/Schubert Quartets are competing for the 3 works that will advance to the final round - good luck to each.

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 91 (+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 91 (+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 55
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 80
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  83
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 91
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 91
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 60 (+5)
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 85 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  83
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 56
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 91
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 91
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65 (+5)
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 90 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  83
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 61 (+5)
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 91
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 91
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 90
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  88 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 61
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 91
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 91
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 95 (+5)
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  93 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 61
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 96(+5)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 96(+5)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 95
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  93
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 61
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 99 (+3)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 98 (+2)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 95
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  98 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 61
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 102 (+3)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 100 (+2)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 95
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  103 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Clear enough where this is going...

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on April 22, 2018, 06:24:53 AM

Clear enough where this is going...

Yeah, people are going to shut out anything the least bit modern, no matter how much of a masterpiece it is.

We appear to be complete in this round.

8)

These three works will advance:

Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz"
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz"

Great choices!  The final group of 30 works are going to make for some hard voting choices. 

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 06:25:48 AM
Yeah, people are going to shut out anything the least bit modern, no matter how much of a masterpiece it is.

How many votes did you cast for Glass or Nyman?

It is the early bird that catches the worm. ;) Just opened this thread to cast my vote for today, but too late already !

Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 06:51:18 AM
How many votes did you cast for Glass or Nyman?

As many as you cast for Ligeti.  But I certainly have cast more votes for Haydn and Beethoven than you have for Ligeti or Schoenberg.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 07:00:13 AM
As many as you cast for Ligeti.  But I certainly have cast more votes for Haydn and Beethoven than you have for Ligeti or Schoenberg.

Did I post a snarky whine about how others voted?

And btw the Nyman and the Glass are both more modern than the Ligeti. Trying to shut out the modern stuff were you?  ::)

Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 07:02:40 AM
Did I post a snarky whine about how others voted?

And btw the Nyman and the Glass are both more modern than the Ligeti. Trying to shut out the modern stuff were you?  ::)

If Glass or Nyman ever writes a piece on the level of Ligeti's Second Quartet, I'd be happy to vote for it.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 07:08:58 AM
If Glass or Nyman ever writes a piece on the level of Ligeti's Second Quartet, I'd be happy to vote for it.

If they were at the level of Ligeti 2 I wouldn't have nominated them.

WHAT? TASTES DIFFER? WHY WASN'T I TOLD?

If Ligeti ever wrote a Quartet on the level of the Dvorak a lot of us would be happy to vote for it. You are the one imputing motives here.

Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 07:15:17 AM
If they were at the level of Ligeti 2 I wouldn't have nominated them.

WHAT? TASTES DIFFER? WHY WASN'T I TOLD?

You say it's merely personal taste, but Ligeti's Second Quartet is by any measure one of the most widely admired pieces in the genre of the last 50 years.  It's been recorded more often than any quartet by Nyman or Glass, and is probably performed more often too, though I don't have any data at hand to examine on that front.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 07:19:50 AM
You say it's merely personal taste, but Ligeti's Second Quartet is by any measure one of the most widely admired pieces in the genre of the last 50 years.  It's been recorded more often than any quartet by Nyman or Glass, and is probably performed more often too, though I don't have any data at hand to examine on that front.

Interesting. Were we supposed to vote for what we like or what we were told to like?

It's a shame. If one of the most popular post-war composers can't get through with one of their finest works, then Schoenberg, Ives, Webern etc. don't stand a chance. The prospect of a finale along the lines of "Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Beethoven vs. Haydn vs. Mozart vs. Haydn vs. Schubert vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Dvorak" doesn't make me particularly excited to participate in the rest of the game. I mean, it's a forum game, it doesn't really impact my life if that's how it ends up, but it does seem to be a foregone conclusion.

Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 07:28:21 AM
Interesting. Were we supposed to vote for what we like or what we were told to like?

I don't remember anyone telling me to like the Ligeti quartet, but evidently you do.  When did that happen?

IIRC, Sammy requested that we not make negative comments about other member's votes.  It's a good rule of thumb.

Quote from: Crudblud on April 22, 2018, 07:28:35 AM
It's a shame. If one of the most popular post-war composers can't get through with one of their finest works, then Schoenberg, Ives, Webern etc. don't stand a chance. The prospect of a finale along the lines of "Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Beethoven vs. Haydn vs. Mozart vs. Haydn vs. Schubert vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Haydn vs. Dvorak" doesn't make me particularly excited to participate in the rest of the game. I mean, it's a forum game, it doesn't really impact my life if that's how it ends up, but it does seem to be a foregone conclusion.

Exactly.  It's just frustrating to see music that I love and admire thrown out of consideration as beyond the pale by others.

The split is not between people who only love the traditional (some mostly diatonic/triadic post-tonal examples like Glass aside) and people who only love the modern, but between people who are interested in the whole range of the tradition and those to whom tradition means something closed off to certain developments.

Quote from: Crudblud on April 22, 2018, 07:28:35 AM
It's a shame. If one of the most popular post-war composers can't get through with one of their finest works, then Schoenberg, Ives, Webern etc. don't stand a chance.

Well, they certainly won't have a chance if you quit the game. I love the music of those composers and will be voting for them.

Sarge

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 22, 2018, 07:57:54 AM
Well, they certainly won't have a chance if you quit the game. I love the music of those composers and will be voting for them.

Sarge

I'm not intending to quit, just giving my view on the game so far. I might be less active here in the coming weeks, but if that is the case it will be for quite different reasons.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
Exactly.  It's just frustrating to see music that I love and admire thrown out of consideration as beyond the pale by others.

The split is not between people who only love the traditional (some mostly diatonic/triadic post-tonal examples like Glass aside) and people who only love the modern, but between people who are interested in the whole range of the tradition and those to whom tradition means something closed off to certain developments.

This is a very manichaean, B&W view. I listened to both the Adamek and the Ligeti. I didn't dislike them, but didn't have an epiphany either. I don't care one bit if they are « one of the most admired pieces in the genre in the last 50 years ». I had submitted Dusapin, but nobody followed me on that. I didn't make a fuss about it.

Quote from: André on April 22, 2018, 08:10:51 AM
This is a very manichaean, B&W view. I listened to both the Adamek and the Ligeti. I didn't dislike them, but didn't have an epiphany either. I don't care one bit if they are « one of the most admired pieces in the genre in the last 50 years ». I had submitted Dusapin, but nobody followed me on that. I didn't make a fuss about it.

The Takemitsu piece, Landscape, was also my submission, and I fully expected that it would not go very far.  I'm even happy that it made it past the mid-round culling.

There are certainly contemporary pieces I can respect but don't really care for, so I understand that, but we've gone two rounds and so far we've seen the elimination of both of Ligeti's quartets and Schoenberg's Fourth.  I'm not very hopeful about the final list.

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 06:45:50 AM
These three works will advance:

Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz"
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz"

Splendid!

I think by choosing 3 from each list, where in each list there are Haydn and Beethoven (et al) quartets, the repertoire that is recorded more often and that people generally have more exposure to will probably be the top 3 that get selected. This is 3 out of 20, that's a really tough game!

Just another thought: I think the string quartet one of the most controversial repertoires within classical music. I once said that the current era of music is the era where string quartets as a medium for composition and string quartets as an ensemble have probably never been so good. However, the implication that the wealth of string quartets in the last couple of decades can outshine the amazing achievements of composers such as Haydn, Mozat and Beethoven and even all the way up to Bartók and Schoenberg, was probably too bold a statement for some.

Quote from: jessop on April 22, 2018, 08:26:46 AM
Just another thought: I think the string quartet one of the most controversial repertoires within classical music. I once said that the current era of music is the era where string quartets as a medium for composition and string quartets as an ensemble have probably never been so good. However, the implication that the wealth of string quartets in the last couple of decades can outshine the amazing achievements of composers such as Haydn, Mozat and Beethoven and even all the way up to Bartók and Schoenberg, was probably too bold a statement for some.

And probably not an accurate assessment.  Some voters appear to be biased against older works and towards more contemporary composers.  Ageism does not make for a convincing argument, imo.

;)

Quote from: jessop on April 22, 2018, 08:26:46 AM
Just another thought: I think the string quartet one of the most controversial repertoires within classical music. I once said that the current era of music is the era where string quartets as a medium for composition and string quartets as an ensemble have probably never been so good. However, the implication that the wealth of string quartets in the last couple of decades can outshine the amazing achievements of composers such as Haydn, Mozat and Beethoven and even all the way up to Bartók and Schoenberg, was probably too bold a statement for some.

I think the original list of nominations was a very good reflection of the history and diversity of this genre, while the shortlist that's developing will depressingly homogeneous by comparison if current voting patterns continue.

After waking up and reading the bickering posts, I have four things to say.

1.  Advancing to the final round:

Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz"
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz"

2.  Game outcomes reflect the preferences of the GMG members who participated in the voting; it's that simple.  Arguing over the merits of particular works won't change anything.  Further, preference rules the day, not perceived merit.

3.  Ligeti's Quartet missed out on going to the final round by the smallest of margins, and I don't consider it a foregone conclusion that no modernist works will advance to the finale.  Just on my own, I could insure modernist works will advance and I'm only one voter.

4.  Round Three will begin later today - stay cool.

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 08:51:17 AM
And probably not an accurate assessment.  Some voters appear to be biased against older works and towards more contemporary composers.  Ageism does not make for a convincing argument, imo.

For me it's more that I don't vote for the "old masters" because I know everyone else will. They're secure. I'm convinced we will see a Haydn quartet advance in each of these primary rounds, and Beethoven, Mozart, Schubert etc. are pretty much guaranteed to go through with multiple entries also. Whether I think it's wonderful music or not (and by and large I do) I'd rather go to bat for stuff I love that also needs help.

Quote from: Crudblud on April 22, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
For me it's more that I don't vote for the "old masters" because I know everyone else will. They're secure. I'm convinced we will see a Haydn quartet advance in each of these primary rounds, and Beethoven, Mozart, Schubert etc. are pretty much guaranteed to go through with multiple entries also. Whether I think it's wonderful music or not (and by and large I do) I'd rather go to bat for stuff I love that also needs help.

I didn't vote for them either, choosing to support Arensky, Weinberg and Shostakovich - but they did worse than Ligeti.

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 09:39:58 AM
I didn't vote for them either, choosing to support Arensky, Weinberg and Shostakovich - but they did worse than Ligeti.

I'd say they did equally well in terms of advancing to the next round.

Having only 3 of 20 advances means only strong consensus candidates will make it. Every game has its rules, which shape the outcome. Maybe a future game for quartets written after 1900 will allow us to express our preference for more modern works.

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on April 22, 2018, 09:45:01 AM
Having only 3 of 20 advances means only strong consensus candidates will make it. Every game has its rules, which shape the outcome. Maybe a future game for quartets written after 1900 will allow us to express our preference for more modern works.

There was a strong consensus among a group of voters that Ligeti's Second Quartet was worthy of inclusion.  The problem is not that it didn't get sufficient support, but that there was an equal push on the other side to ensure it didn't get in at all.  Forcing post-1900 works into a different group is not a good solution.  I want to see a list that captures the full vitality of the repertoire, and this list is shaping up to be anything but that.

I love the works of Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven, I nominated pieces by all three, and I think that a string quartet list without them is as poor as one without Ligeti or Schoenberg or Webern.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 09:47:40 AM
There was a strong consensus among a group of voters that Ligeti's Second Quartet was worthy of inclusion.  The problem is not that it didn't get sufficient support, but that there was an equal push on the other side to ensure it didn't get in at all.

You must be kidding.   People voted for the works they wished to support.  Just as you spread your votes around to certain works you neglected others.  Get over it.  And Ligeti got more than four times as many votes as Weinberg.

I don't think there was an "other side" trying in "ensure" Ligeti didn't get in. There were people who loved Haydn. I'm starting to dispair of any Mozart' getting in!

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 09:50:59 AM
You must be kidding.   People voted for the works they wished to support.  Just as you spread your votes around to certain works you neglected others.  Get over it.  And Ligeti got more than four times as many votes as Weinberg.

Just for the record here's the final board:

Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 61
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 57
Crumb - Black Angels - 39
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 102 (+3)
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 30

Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 100 (+2)
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 65
Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 95
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" -  103 (+5)
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 19
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 15
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 15

Ligeti got 95 votes - 6X Weinberg and Takemitsu; nearly 5X Shostakovich  - how can you complain that Ligeti was shunned when he got the fourth highest total? 

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on April 22, 2018, 09:55:08 AM
I don't think there was an "other side" trying in "ensure" Ligeti didn't get in. There were people who loved Haydn. I'm starting to dispair of any Mozart' getting in!

You and San Antone suddenly shifted your voting patterns at the last second to ensure its defeat.

Neither of you had voted for Schubert, Dvorak, or Haydn until the last votes when you pushed them above Ligeti.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
You and San Antone suddenly shifted your voting patterns at the last second to ensure its defeat.

Neither of you had voted for Schubert, Dvorak, or Haydn until the last votes when you pushed them above Ligeti.

I hate to say it but you sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2018, 10:04:43 AM
I hate to say it but you sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Here are the votes until today:

Baron Scarpia
Beethoven +10
Janacek +15
Mozart +5

San Antone
Arensky +13
Myaskovsky +7
Shostakovich +12
Weinberg +8

Mahlerian
Beethoven +4
Crumb +2
Janacek +15
Ligeti +10
Takemitsu +9


Then, today, Baron Scarpia and San Antone decide to vote for works they have not thus far supported, pushing them above Ligeti and Ligeti out of the game.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
You and San Antone suddenly shifted your voting patterns at the last second to ensure its defeat.

Neither of you had voted for Schubert, Dvorak, or Haydn until the last votes when you pushed them above Ligeti.

Yes; I voted for composers I actually listen to.  I don't listen to Ligeti - so shoot me. 

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 09:39:58 AM
I didn't vote for them either, choosing to support Arensky, Weinberg and Shostakovich - but they did worse than Ligeti.

Shostakovich not doing so well is pretty surprising, I always thought him among the most popular 20th century composers, but maybe the 12th just isn't a very popular quartet, I don't know—since the list was made up of single vote nominations in the first place it's hard to tell what outside of the tried and true is going to get the most support, though we've already seen that nominations don't always equate to votes, I've even had to neglect composers I nominated because I felt others were more deserving of votes. Ligeti is very popular among 20th century composers of a "progressive" stripe, maybe the most popular of all, and the 2nd quartet is his most major and most well known work in the genre, both of which probably count a great deal towards it being the most strongly supported of the modern selections in this round. But it's also the case that one voter can't hold up more than two selections on their own, whichever way you split it someone's going to have to get two points, maybe even one, but even then it's no guarantee, even with a consistent stream of fives advancement is not assured, as we see with Ligeti in this case. Them's the breaks; with only three in every twenty making it through to the next stage it's very exclusive.

Just to be clear: At no point in this discussion has it been my intent to complain about other people's voting, I'm just making the observation that the way things are going I don't think it's going to be a very exciting list going into the next stage of the game.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:06:53 AM
Here are the votes until today:

Baron Scarpia
Beethoven +10
Janacek +15
Mozart +5

San Antone
Arensky +13
Myaskovsky +7
Shostakovich +12
Weinberg +8

Mahlerian
Beethoven +4
Crumb +2
Janacek +15
Ligeti +10
Takemitsu +9


Then, today, Baron Scarpia and San Antone decide to vote for works they have not thus far supported, pushing them above Ligeti and Ligeti out of the game.

Do you imply that they had a hidden anti-Ligeti agenda and just waited for the right time to push it?

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2018, 10:09:49 AM
Do you imply that they had a hidden anti-Ligeti agenda and just waited for the right time to push it?

I am not implying that at all, I am saying that they took the opportunity to push Ligeti out of the game rather than continue to support the works they had supported before.  Surely you see that this is effectively voting against Ligeti's work?

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:11:54 AM
I am not implying that at all, I am saying that they took the opportunity to push Ligeti out of the game rather than continue to support the works they had supported before.  Surely you see that this is effectively voting against Ligeti's work?

I didn't even know how many votes Ligeti had, I only looked at his total to see how many more votes he got than Weinberg.  I ignored Ligeti throughout the game since I knew I wasn't voting for him under any circumstances.  I didn't push him out of the game - I forgot he was even there.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:11:54 AM
I am not implying that at all, I am saying that they took the opportunity to push Ligeti out of the game rather than continue to support the works they had supported before.  Surely you see that this is effectively voting against Ligeti's work?

Why single out Ligeti? There were 16 others that didn't make it to the final round, many with far fewer votes than Ligeti. Do you really feel that frustrated because in an innocuous and inconsequential game (game!) your favorite didn't win a place in the final?

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2018, 10:14:51 AM
Why single out Ligeti? There were 16 others that didn't make it to the final round, many with far fewer votes than Ligeti. Do you really feel that frustrated because in an innocuous and inconsequential game (game!) your favorite didn't win a place in the final?

He wasn't my favorite.  My favorite work in this round, the one I voted for most, was Janacek.  I was irked by the fact that Ligeti's work was pushed out of contention at the last second.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:16:16 AM
He wasn't my favorite.  My favorite work in this round, the one I voted for most, was Janacek.

Then why all the fuss about Ligeti?

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
Then why all the fuss about Ligeti?

Because I think it's a masterpiece and a list of string quartets without it is poorer for it, and because of the way it was shoved out of the way at the last second.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:17:56 AM
Because I think it's a masterpiece and a list of string quartets without it is poorer for it, and because of the way it was shoved out of the way at the last second.

You tend to take the GMG things much more seriously than they should be taken (in general, not only in this thread). Relax, man, there are far worse things that can happen in real life than Ligeti being "shoved out" in an internet forum. You could use a little bit of nonchalance and detachment.

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2018, 10:23:18 AM
You tend to take the GMG things much more seriously than they should be taken (in general, not only in this thread). Relax, man, there are far worse things that can happen in real life than Ligeti being "shoved out" in an internet forum. You could use a little bit of nonchalance and detachment.

Your ad hominems aside, why should I apologize for loving music enough to take it seriously on a music forum?

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
Your ad hominems aside

What ad hominems, pray tell?

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:17:56 AM
Because I think it's a masterpiece and a list of string quartets without it is poorer for it, and because of the way it was shoved out of the way at the last second.

Let's assume that you are correct that the last two or three voters were trying to insure that the Ligeti didn't advance.  There's nothing wrong with that - a voter's motivation is his/her own business as long as the game rules are followed.  One of the basic voter motivations is to try to influence game outcomes; I do it quite often.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
Your ad hominems aside, why should I apologize for loving music enough to take it seriously on a music forum?

If you should apologize for anything, it would be for accusing me of purposely denying Ligeti a spot among the final three. 

As I have said I was ignoring Ligeti, did not know how close he was to 100 and did not vote for Schubert and Haydn instead of Ligeti (I forgot he was even there), but because I like those works and knew Weinberg, Arensky and Shostakovich were not going to make it, and wanted to advance those works that I liked the best to the final round.

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 10:33:03 AM
If you should apologize for anything, it would be for accusing me of purposely denying Ligeti a spot among the final three. 

As I have said I was ignoring Ligeti, did not know how close he was to 100 and did not vote for Schubert and Haydn instead of Ligeti (I forgot he was even there), but because I like those works and knew Weinberg, Arensky and Shostakovich were not going to make it, and wanted to advance those works that I liked the best to the final round.

I'm sorry.  I guess I'm feeling cranky today.  I shouldn't have gone off on you or Baron Scarpia like that.  It was my own frustration more than anything else.

Apology accepted.

Now on to Round Three ...

;)

Tough result for Ligeti. I think we should direct all our frustrations toward Sammy for implementing such a draconian cutoff. ;)

Quote from: Crudblud on April 22, 2018, 10:09:39 AM
Shostakovich not doing so well is pretty surprising, I always thought him among the most popular 20th century composers, but maybe the 12th just isn't a very popular quartet, I don't know—since the list was made up of single vote nominations in the first place it's hard to tell what outside of the tried and true is going to get the most support, though we've already seen that nominations don't always equate to votes, I've even had to neglect composers I nominated because I felt others were more deserving of votes. Ligeti is very popular among 20th century composers of a "progressive" stripe, maybe the most popular of all, and the 2nd quartet is his most major and most well known work in the genre, both of which probably count a great deal towards it being the most strongly supported of the modern selections in this round. But it's also the case that one voter can't hold up more than two selections on their own, whichever way you split it someone's going to have to get two points, maybe even one, but even then it's no guarantee, even with a consistent stream of fives advancement is not assured, as we see with Ligeti in this case. Them's the breaks; with only three in every twenty making it through to the next stage it's very exclusive.

Just to be clear: At no point in this discussion has it been my intent to complain about other people's voting, I'm just making the observation that the way things are going I don't think it's going to be a very exciting list going into the next stage of the game.

I didn't support the 12th because I focused on 2 works I really wanted to see going to the next round. Two more DSCH quartets will come up later (8 and 15) and one of them will have my vote on every single day. Which means one of the two I supported in this round might not get my vote.  It's a tactical game. In order to win the battle you must lose some soldiers, however good they are.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 19, 2018, 06:06:39 AM
Arensky - String Quartet no. 2 in A minor, op. 35 - 18
Bax - String Quartet no. 1 in G major - 10
Beethoven - String Quartet no. 16 in F major, op. 135 - 16
Brahms - String Quartet no. 3 in B flat major, op. 67 - 2
Crumb - Black Angels - 14 (+2)
Dvořák - String Quartet no. 13 in G major, op. 106 - 26
Ferneyhough - String Quartet no. 6 - 15
Haydn - String Quartet in D major, op. 20/4 - 0
Haydn - String Quartet in G major, op. 77/1 "Lobkowitz" - 29
Janácek - String Quartet no. 2 "Intimate letters" - 15 (+5)

Ligeti - String Quartet no. 2 - 23
Mozart - Adagio and Fugue in C minor, K 546 - 2
Myaskovsky - String Quartet no. 4 in F minor, op. 33/4 - 6
Post (David) - String Quartet no. 2 - 0
Rubbra - String Quartet no. 2 in E flat major, op. 73 - 1
Schubert - String Quartet no. 12 in C minor, D 703 "Quartettsatz" - 28
Shostakovich - String Quartet no. 12 in D flat major, op. 133 - 7
Takemitsu - Landscape for String Quartet - 10 (+3)
Toldrà - Vistes al mar - 0
Weinberg - String Quartet no. 11, op. 89 - 8

Mahlerian, it's obviously your fault that Ligeti didn't win ;)  You wasted five valuable points (which would have put Ligeti over the top) on Takemitsu and Crumb.

Sarge

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:16:16 AM
He wasn't my favorite.  My favorite work in this round, the one I voted for most, was Janacek.  I was irked by the fact that Ligeti's work was pushed out of contention at the last second.

FWIW, I voted Janacek (Kreutzer Sonata) all the way in the last round. I have to tell you though, it never even occurred to me that anyone was voting against certain composers. Any vote I wasted doing that would be one I couldn't cast for a favorite. :-\

8)

Quote from: André on April 22, 2018, 11:24:30 AM
I didn't support the 12th because I focused on 2 works I really wanted to see going to the next round. Two more DSCH quartets will come up later (8 and 15) and one of them will have my vote on every single day. Which means one of the two I supported in this round might not get my vote.  It's a tactical game. In order to win the battle you must lose some soldiers, however good they are.

vis-à-vis DSCH, I agree. I am going to back 15 when it comes around. We'll see what else is on the list... you can't push ALL your faves over the top.  :-\

8)

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 22, 2018, 11:38:00 AM
Mahlerian, it's obviously your fault that Ligeti didn't win ;)  You wasted five valuable points (which would have put Ligeti over the top) on Takemitsu and Crumb.

Sarge

Guess I'll have to own up to that one!   :laugh:

I did get to listen to two works I'd not have known otherwise: the Adamek and Ligeti. That was time well spent.

Quote from: André on April 22, 2018, 11:54:18 AM
I did get to listen to two works I'd not have known otherwise: the Adamek and Ligeti. That was time well spent.

Yes, time well spent. I wasn't familiar with either Quartet and was glad to have heard them. Really enjoyed the Adamek, especially the "percussive" first movement.

Sarge

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 11:49:09 AM
Guess I'll have to own up to that one!   :laugh:

But seriously, I feel your pain. My favorite Beethoven Quartet (op.135) didn't make it either. I can't believe it! Muss es sein? Yeah, es muss sein  :(

Sarge

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 22, 2018, 11:46:01 AM
vis-à-vis DSCH, I agree. I am going to back 15 when it comes around.

And I'll be voting for 2 and 3 (probably...but I don't know the competition yet...but probably).

Sarge

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:06:53 AM
Here are the votes until today:

Baron Scarpia
Beethoven +10
Janacek +15
Mozart +5

San Antone
Arensky +13
Myaskovsky +7
Shostakovich +12
Weinberg +8

Mahlerian
Beethoven +4
Crumb +2
Janacek +15
Ligeti +10
Takemitsu +9


Then, today, Baron Scarpia and San Antone decide to vote for works they have not thus far supported, pushing them above Ligeti and Ligeti out of the game.

I was pulling for Mozart and Janacek. When Mozart got wiped out I was pulling for Janacek and Beethoven, and Beethoven was initially not doing so well. When I saw Janacek in a hopeless position and Beethoven at the top I wanted to be done with it.

If I wanted to sabotage anyone it would have been Haydn, due to my annoyance at the fact that the finale is looking like a lineup with multiple Haydn works and no Mozart at all. If I had noticed that Ligeti was so close I might have voted for him in the hope of sinking Haydn (sorry Gurn).

And now I see I misread Beethoven's score. :(
With family obligations I had all of 15 seconds to vote.

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on April 22, 2018, 12:30:48 PMIf I had noticed that Ligeti was so close I might have voted for him in the hope of sinking Haydn (sorry Gurn).

You would have wanted to sink my favorite Haydn quartet? Thanks a lot, dude!!!  ;D

Sarge

Run out of ordnance for you bazooka, Sarge?

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on April 22, 2018, 12:50:09 PM
Run out of ordnance for you bazooka, Sarge?

I'm becoming a pacifist in my old age.

Sarge

Quote from: Crudblud on April 22, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
For me it's more that I don't vote for the "old masters" because I know everyone else will. They're secure. I'm convinced we will see a Haydn quartet advance in each of these primary rounds, and Beethoven, Mozart, Schubert etc. are pretty much guaranteed to go through with multiple entries also. Whether I think it's wonderful music or not (and by and large I do) I'd rather go to bat for stuff I love that also needs help.

That is an excellent strategy that I often use.  In one particular game, I never voted for my favorite work because of all the votes it was collecting.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
You and San Antone suddenly shifted your voting patterns at the last second to ensure its defeat.

Neither of you had voted for Schubert, Dvorak, or Haydn until the last votes when you pushed them above Ligeti.

And there's nothing wrong with that - I call it game strategy.

Quote from: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 10:33:03 AM
If you should apologize for anything, it would be for accusing me of purposely denying Ligeti a spot among the final three. 

As I have said I was ignoring Ligeti, did not know how close he was to 100 and did not vote for Schubert and Haydn instead of Ligeti (I forgot he was even there), but because I like those works and knew Weinberg, Arensky and Shostakovich were not going to make it, and wanted to advance those works that I liked the best to the final round.

Sounds like a good strategy to me.

Quote from: Sammy on April 22, 2018, 01:14:39 PM
And there's nothing wrong with that - I call it game strategy.

Start the next round! Mozart better win this one or I'm reporting you to the United Nations for crimes against humanity!

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 22, 2018, 12:19:14 PM
But seriously, I feel your pain. My favorite Beethoven Quartet (op.135) didn't make it either. I can't believe it! Muss es sein? Yeah, es muss sein  :(

Sarge

For what it's worth, the Beethoven would have been in my own top 3 choices (with Ligeti and Janacek), despite my giving Takemitsu more points.  I had also expected it to do better.

I feel like if anyone is at fault for giving the opportunity for Ligeti to miss the top spot it would be me when I last-minute voted for Schubert to bump him up into the 90s. Otherwise Ligeti would have been closer to the top and Baron Scarpia would have probably said something like 'looks like this is where votes are going' and pushed Ligeti up to 100 along with the two quartets that were ahead of Ligeti.

Honestly, I love Schubert's string quartets and I was happy to support one of them even just a little. I did that also because I thought a closer game would have been a more exciting game no matter who the outcome. Because of that, ther was no clear top 3 or top 4 as they were often neck and neck, overtaking each other by only a few points.

Quote from: Crudblud on April 22, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
For me it's more that I don't vote for the "old masters" because I know everyone else will. They're secure. I'm convinced we will see a Haydn quartet advance in each of these primary rounds, and Beethoven, Mozart, Schubert etc. are pretty much guaranteed to go through with multiple entries also. Whether I think it's wonderful music or not (and by and large I do) I'd rather go to bat for stuff I love that also needs help.

Let me get this straight. You vote for the moderns as a policy not as a matter of your musical judgment. Then you complain others (you imagine) are voting for older composers as a policy.

Quote from: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
You and San Antone suddenly shifted your voting patterns at the last second to ensure its defeat.

Neither of you had voted for Schubert, Dvorak, or Haydn until the last votes when you pushed them above Ligeti.

Jibbers crabst. You are limited in what you can vote for. So you might vote for one Quartet today and another tomorrow. I did that on the innovative thread, voting eventually for all of the top 4 but mostly for Monteverdi. As that reflects my judgment.

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 22, 2018, 12:55:19 PM
I'm becoming a pacifist in my old age.

Sarge

Szell sucks ass!

>:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

We are getting hung up on voter motivation; that's a bad thing for my games.

Voter motivation is nobody's business except for the person casting his/her particular votes!!!!

I only concern myself with my own motivation.  I don't care what yours might be; I just want you to cast votes however you like as long as you adhere to the voting rules.

While we are on the subject of motivation, these are usually my reasons for voting as I do:

1.  I vote for my favored entries (especially in the early stages of a game).

2.  When it becomes clear to me that a favored entry will not receive sufficient votes, I move on to the next best entry which has some legs.

3.  My main goal is to maximize my influence on game outcomes, and that might well include a strategy to deny an entry I don't care advancement to the final round.

4.  I like to strike at the right time.  It's a great feeling to end a game by voting my favorite entry into the winner's position while also making sure that a not-liked entry doesn't move forward.

5.  As the game-runner, I sometimes vote purposely to tighten a game and make it more competitive/interesting. 

6.  There are times when I vote for low-point entries before half-time to insure that I don't end up with an excessive number of drop-outs.  In one game, there were likely to be 6 ties toward the bottom of the board.  I waited for the right moment, put one entry into the 50 points region and gave votes to 3 losers to insure a decent number of entries continuing in the game.

My point is that we are playing a game, not merely giving votes to favorites.  Games involve strategies; otherwise, you might as well just have a poll, make your votes and move on to other subjects - one and done.  In a game, I get to vote every day and the numbers I'm looking at are never the same.

Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 05:04:44 PM
Let me get this straight. You vote for the moderns as a policy not as a matter of your musical judgment. Then you complain others (you imagine) are voting for older composers as a policy.

Who's complaining? I'm talking about strategy. It is a game, you know...

Man, you guys are a tough crowd ::) Over at TalkClassical there's hardly any of this bickering involving the games (which is why I spend most of my time there nowadays)...