Richard Widmark in 'Kiss of Death' (giggling psychopath)
Dennis Hopper in 'Speed' (deranged ex-cop)
Alan Rickman in 'Die Hard' ('Hans Gruber')
Frederic March in 'Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde' (as 'Mr Hyde' obviosly)
Robert Mitchum in 'Night of the Hunter' (deranged and murderous 'priest' - terrifying!)
In no particular order:
Darth Vader (Star Wars trilogy) voiced by James Earl Jones
T-1000 (T2: Judgment Day) played by Robert Patrick
The Joker (The Dark Knight) played by Heath Ledger
Lex Luthor (Superman movies with Christopher Reeve) played by Gene Hackman
Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal) played by Anthony Hopkins
Fred C. Dobbs (The Treasure of Sierra Madre), played by Humphrey Bogart
Darth Vader (Star Wars movies), voiced by James Earl Jones
Simon Gruber (Die Hard with a Vengeance), played by Jeremy Irons
René Emile Belloq (Raiders of the Lost Ark), played by Paul Freeman
Auric Goldfinger (Goldfinger), played by Gert Fröbe
Yes, I just placed Simon Gruber over Hans Gruber :D
Quote from: vandermolen on April 19, 2018, 04:51:08 AM
Frederic March in 'Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde' (as 'Mr Hyde' obviosly)
Haven't seen the film version but interestingly ever since I've read the book I've kind of seen Jekyll as the true villain. Yes, I know that they are the one and the same person (I hope this didn't spoil anyone ;)) and that's actually my point: I see Jekyll as a kind of hypocrite who thinks that morality is a prison and a burden and that all Hyde's vices are Jekyll's vices and he doesn't seem to admit this to even to himself.
Not meant as criticizing your opinion, just thought to share my views. :)
Quote from: Mirror Image on April 19, 2018, 05:51:40 AM
In no particular order:
Darth Vader (Star Wars trilogy) voiced by James Earl Jones
T-1000 (T2: Judgment Day) played by Robert Patrick
The Joker (The Dark Knight) played by Heath Ledger
Lex Luthor (Superman movies with Christopher Reeve) played by Gene Hackman
Hannibal Lecter (The Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal) played by Anthony Hopkins
Excellent choices John!
I nearly chose Darth Vader myself - my favourite scene is his redemption in 'Return of the Jedi' - the Emperor is another great villain. In regard to villains who obtain (sort of) redemption, James Cagney's Rocky from 'Angels with Dirty Faces' is, I believe, a great example.
:)
Quote from: Alberich on April 19, 2018, 06:50:04 AM
Fred C. Dobbs (The Treasure of Sierra Madre), played by Humphrey Bogart
Darth Vader (Star Wars movies), voiced by James Earl Jones
Simon Gruber (Die Hard with a Vengeance), played by Jeremy Irons
René Emile Belloq (Raiders of the Lost Ark), played by Paul Freeman
Auric Goldfinger (Goldfinger), played by Gert Fröbe
Yes, I just placed Simon Gruber over Hans Gruber :D
Also great choices. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre is a terrific film and Humphrey Bogart was brilliant in it as was Walter Huston. I'll have to have another look at 'Simon Gruber'.
Quote from: Alberich on April 19, 2018, 07:05:20 AM
Haven't seen the film version but interestingly ever since I've read the book I've kind of seen Jekyll as the true villain. Yes, I know that they are the one and the same person (I hope this didn't spoil anyone ;)) and that's actually my point: I see Jekyll as a kind of hypocrite who thinks that morality is a prison and a burden and that all Hyde's vices are Jekyll's vices and he doesn't seem to admit this to even to himself.
Not meant as criticizing your opinion, just thought to share my views. :)
A perfectly valid and interesting point. It is one of my favourite books (or long short-story) for its insight into the human condition. I especially like John Sanford's writings about the story of Dr J and Mr H.
I'll go with Rickman/Gruber and this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/v/opbi7d42s8E
Quote from: drogulus on April 19, 2018, 08:44:54 AM
I'll go with Rickman/Gruber and this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/v/opbi7d42s8E
Oh yes! He was terrific! The cattle prod OMG :o
Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) - No Country for Old Men
Hal 9000 (voiced by Douglas Rain) - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Antonio Salieri (played by F Murray Abraham) - Amadeus
Don Lope de Aguirre (played by Klaus Kinski) - Aguirre: The Wrath of God
Frank Booth (played by Dennis Hopper) - Blue Velvet
Quote from: vandermolen on April 19, 2018, 07:59:51 AM
Excellent choices John!
I nearly chose Darth Vader myself - my favourite scene is his redemption in 'Return of the Jedi' - the Emperor is another great villain. In regard to villains who obtain (sort of) redemption, James Cagney's Rocky from 'Angels with Dirty Faces' is, I believe, a great example.
:)
Thanks! Yeah, Emperor Palpatine could have made my list, but, for some reason, Darth Vader always seemed to be a much more 'human' kind of evil and an evil I, in some strange way, found sympathy in. He always kind of felt torn between darkness and light to me. This vulnerability in the character gave his 'wickedness' a whole new dimension.
Salieri - Amadeus
Frank Booth - Blue Velvet
Jeremy Prokosch (Jack Palance) - Contempt
Dr. Otto Octavious - Spider-Man 2
Oil - There Will Be Blood
Quote from: Trout on April 19, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) - No Country for Old Men
Hal 9000 (voiced by Douglas Rain) - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Antonio Salieri (played by F Murray Abraham) - Amadeus
Don Lope de Aguirre (played by Klaus Kinski) - Aguirre: The Wrath of God
Frank Booth (played by Dennis Hopper) - Blue Velvet
Nice,
Trout. I intentionally didn't look at other's lists to avoid being influenced. But we share Frank Booth and Salieri.
Great choices!
Cheers!
Quote from: Trout on April 19, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
Anton Chigurh (played by Javier Bardem) - No Country for Old Men
Hal 9000 (voiced by Douglas Rain) - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Antonio Salieri (played by F Murray Abraham) - Amadeus
Don Lope de Aguirre (played by Klaus Kinski) - Aguirre: The Wrath of God
Frank Booth (played by Dennis Hopper) - Blue Velvet
Don't know the last two but others are inspired choices and HAL is brilliant -why did I not think of him? ('Aren't you going to find that rather difficult without your space helmet Dave?')
Chigurh and Salieri were both terrific villains.
Thanks to everyone for responses so far - more than I expected. :)
Quote from: TheGSMoeller on April 19, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
Salieri - Amadeus
Frank Booth - Blue Velvet
Jeremy Prokosch (Jack Palance) - Contempt
Dr. Otto Octavious - Spider-Man 2
Oil - There Will Be Blood
Only know the first one - a wonderful performance but Jack Palance is always a great villain - I didn't realise that it was his real-life his daughter playing the nanny who hangs herself in full view of the children's party in the first (and best) 'Omen' film.
PS on that topic - only a male cast so far, so let me add:
'Mrs Baylock' (Billie Whitelaw) from the original 'Omen' film and
'Phyllis Dietrichson' (Barbara Stanwyck) from 'Double Indeminty'.
I thought of including Hal on my list but I really don't see him as a true villain - he's a victim of a program error.
Some comedic villains and some modern femme fatales
Dr. Evil (Douglas "Dougie" Powers) played by Mike Myers in Austin Powers
Catherine Tramell played by Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct
Matty Tyler Walker played by Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
Gen. Garcia played by Richard Libertini in The In-Laws
The Joker played by Jack Nicholson in Batman
Quote from: Alberich on April 20, 2018, 03:06:34 AM
I thought of including Hal on my list but I really don't see him as a true villain - he's a victim of a program error.
Also a good point plus the fact that (spoiler alert) he redeems himself in the film '2010', which I rather liked despite negative reviews.
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 20, 2018, 03:37:15 AM
Some comedic villains and some modern femme fatales
Dr. Evil (Douglas "Dougie" Powers) played by Mike Myers in Austin Powers
Catherine Tramell played by Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct
Matty Tyler Walker played by Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
Gen. Garcia played by Richard Libertini in The In-Laws
The Joker played by Jack Nicholson in Batman
I like the 'Dr Evil' choice. I'm not so familiar with the Batman films and so 'my Joker' is Cesar Romero from the Adam West TV series whom I don't think would count as one of the great screen villains. However, Frank Gorshin's 'Riddler' is another matter. 8)
First that come to mind:
Harry Lime from The Third Man
Marquise de Merteuil and Vicomte de Valmont from Dangerous Liaisons
Liberty Walance
Quote from: Draško on April 20, 2018, 07:23:32 AM
First that come to mind:
Harry Lime from The Third Man
Marquise de Merteuil and Vicomte de Valmont from Dangerous Liaisons
Liberty Walance
Don't know the Marquise but Liberty and Harry Lime are great choices.
I like Liberty too but my favorite scene of the movie is actually after he is shot. The doctor orders whisky as if it were a medical order. And then he drinks it! :D
Great choices from everyone!
David Lo Pan
Inspector Frank Butterman
Commander Kruge
General Jack D. Ripper
And Harry Gibson's character from The Blues Brother
Quote from: vandermolen on April 20, 2018, 07:19:20 AM
I like the 'Dr Evil' choice. I'm not so familiar with the Batman films and so 'my Joker' is Cesar Romero from the Adam West TV series whom I don't think would count as one of the great screen villains. However, Frank Gorshin's 'Riddler' is another matter. 8)
Nicholson as the Joker is among the best performances in movies. The script gives enough backstory to make him a sympathetic character, and in some ways he's more the central figure of the film than Batman himself.
Batman 2 was not quite at that level. But Danny DiVito probably did better as the Penguin than Burgess Meredith did in the TV series. (I was a kid when the TV series aired, but from what I remember, Gorshin as the Riddler was indeed the best of the best.)
Quote from: Draško on April 20, 2018, 07:23:32 AM
Vicomte de Valmont from Dangerous Liaisons
Quote from: motoboy on April 20, 2018, 11:20:25 AM
General Jack D. Ripper
And Harry Gibson's character from The Blues Brother
Great choices, guys. Villains from three of my favorite films.
Sarge
Quote from: vandermolen on April 20, 2018, 07:19:20 AM
I'm not so familiar with the Batman films and so 'my Joker' is Cesar Romero from the Adam West TV series whom I don't think would count as one of the great screen villains. However, Frank Gorshin's 'Riddler' is another matter. 8)
Which reminds me of another great Batman villain: Julie Newmar's Catwoman 8)
Sarge
For me Villain = Vincent Price
Some of his most famous performance
house of wax
house of Usher
The Pit and the Pendulum
The Raven
The Masque of the Red Death
The abominable Dr. Phibes
plus all the Dracula movies he did.
None of my villains is all bad.
HAL Really no-one can top HAL. The rest are also-fans.
Sydney Greenstreer as Casper Gutman in the Maltese Falcon
Adolph Menjou in Paths Of Glory
Tony Perkins in Psycho
Olson Welles as Charles Foster Kane
Quote from: Spineur on April 20, 2018, 01:09:39 PM
For me Villain = Vincent Price
Some of his most famous performance
house of wax
house of Usher
The Pit and the Pendulum
The Raven
The Masque of the Red Death
The abominable Dr. Phibes
plus all the Dracula movies he did.
What about Ratigan? That was evidently Price's favorite role.
Quote from: Spineur on April 20, 2018, 01:09:39 PM
For me Villain = Vincent Price
Some of his most famous performance
house of wax
house of Usher
The Pit and the Pendulum
The Raven
The Masque of the Red Death
The abominable Dr. Phibes
plus all the Dracula movies he did.
Not forgetting the 'Tomb of Ligeia' where, unless I've confused it with the House of Usher, the Vincent Price character has 'a morbid aversion to sunlight' great stuff!
A vote from me for the TV Catwoman as well.
My favorite Vincent Price role was Reavis in The Baron of Arizona. This was one of those late show movies people my age in NY would happen upon after midnight. There was also a late late show and even a late late late show. Yeah, it was channel 2, the CBS station.
https://www.youtube.com/v/CISqPsA80fU
Quote from: Alberich on April 19, 2018, 06:50:04 AM
Fred C. Dobbs (The Treasure of Sierra Madre), played by Humphrey Bogart
Does this count as a spoiler? 8)
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 20, 2018, 03:37:15 AM
Gen. Garcia played by Richard Libertini in The In-Laws
My doctor told me to stay away from all marinated bird.
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 20, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
Which reminds me of another great Batman villain: Julie Newmar's Catwoman 8)
Sarge
She is also the evil bargainer in the
Twilight Zone episode, "Of Late I Think of Cliffordville." I mean, what a cast there: ALbert Salmi, Julie Newmar, & John Anderson.
Khan (Ricardo Montalban), Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Phillip van Damm (Jas Mason), North by Northwest
Jean-Pierre Thibodoux (David Suchet), The In-Laws (2003)
Jeffrey Lebowski (David Huddleston), The Big Lebowski
Nurse Diesel (Cloris Leachman), High Anxiety
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 21, 2018, 11:48:07 AM
My doctor told me to stay away from all marinated bird.
We have no blindfolds senor, we are a poor country!
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 20, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
Which reminds me of another great Batman villain: Julie Newmar's Catwoman 8)
Sarge
Lee Meriwether!
Meow.
My list may prove to be provocative, so fire away. :D
Severus Snape
Khan
Darth Vader
The Wicked Witch of the West
The Terminator ( original )
I'll be back,
LKB
Quote from: Alberich on April 20, 2018, 03:06:34 AM
I thought of including Hal on my list but I really don't see him as a true villain - he's a victim of a program error.
Precisely. Frank Poole was, ultimately, killed by coders in Urbana, Illinois.
And now l have the opportunity to remind readers that my favorite film is back in theaters on May 18th, in 70mm. If you've never seen
2001, or haven't seen it as it was originally presented, try to take advantage of this exquisite opportunity.
C G C,
LKB
Quote from: LKB on April 21, 2018, 06:23:42 PM
Precisely. Frank Poole was, ultimately, killed by coders in Urbana, Illinois.
And now l have the opportunity to remind readers that my favorite film is back in theaters on May 18th, in 70mm. If you've never seen 2001, or haven't seen it as it was originally presented, try to take advantage of this exquisite opportunity.
C G C,
LKB
I agree - you have to see it in the cinema.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 21, 2018, 11:41:08 AM
Does this count as a spoiler? 8)
Well, I've already spoiled in this thread like 3 or 4 times. :P Wouldn't Hal count as a spoiler too, technically?
Quote from: Alberich on April 22, 2018, 02:22:04 AM
Well, I've already spoiled in this thread like 3 or 4 times. :P Wouldn't Hal count as a spoiler too, technically?
Right you are.
If we're counting TV too, then I want to include Ben Horne of "Twin Peaks.'
And how about Scar in The Lion King? 8)
Milady de Winter. Pretty much any version. Every actress seems to love getting into it.
Cardinal Richelieu from the same source.
Off the top of my head..
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(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWE.jpg)
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWF.jpg)
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWH.jpg)
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a bonus villain from the movie Spalovač mrtvol (The Cremator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremator)), one of the best Czechoslovakian movies of all time – highly recommended, although be prepared for a very dark ride.
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWJ.jpg)
Rinaldo,
Bladerunner! Yes! That brought The Kurgen to mind.
I think everyone involved in the making of "Jaws 3D" was pretty villainous, too.
Quote from: Rinaldo on April 22, 2018, 05:53:25 PM
Off the top of my head..
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWG.jpg)
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWI.jpg)
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWE.jpg)
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWF.jpg)
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWH.jpg)
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a bonus villain from the movie Spalovač mrtvol (The Cremator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cremator)), one of the best Czechoslovakian movies of all time – highly recommended, although be prepared for a very dark ride.
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWJ.jpg)
Great choices, I especially like Robert Patrick from the Terminator 2 film.
Quote from: Rinaldo on April 22, 2018, 05:53:25 PM
Off the top of my head..
(https://i.nahraj.to/f/1ZWG.jpg)
Yes!
Sarge
A young Dame Helen Mirren as Morgana in 'Excalibur' - one of my very favourite films:
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Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 23, 2018, 04:25:42 AM
Yes!
Sarge
Frank is a great choice but somehow I still like more the other main villain of the movie, Mr. Morton, played by Gabriele Ferzetti.
The Borg
Quote from: vandermolen on April 23, 2018, 05:02:46 AM
A young Dame Helen Mirren as Morgana in 'Excalibur' - one of my very favourite films:
I should try that one again. For whatever reason, I just could not remain in the cinema to watch through to the end.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 23, 2018, 05:36:49 AM
I should try that one again. For whatever reason, I just could not remain in the cinema to watch through to the end.
Bit of an acquired taste I think
Karl. My daughter refuses to watch it due to the violence and rape of Igrayne near the start but I find it an incredibly humane and moving film. Nicol Williamson's performance as Merlin is the highpoint of the film. Great music by Wagner, Orff and Trevor Jones. I also like Nigel Terry's understated performance as Arthur. The real love story is not between Arthur and Quinevere or even Lancelot and Quinevere but between Arthur and Merlin.
Apparently the director John Boorman saw the story as an allegory of mankind's loss of spirituality in the blind pursuit of progress and, as such, with a timeless relevance.
Jack Palance, Shane (1953)
Gian Maria Volonte, For a Few Dollars More (1965)
Robert Mitchum, Cape Fear (1962)
Thayer David, Journey to the Center of the Earth (1959)
Torin Thatcher, The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958)
Robert Shaw, Robin and Marian (1976)
James Mason, North by Northwest (1959)
Peter Lorre, The Maltese Falcon (1941), M (1931)
George Sanders in anything.
George Zucco in anything.
My favorite minor villain: That kid from Dark City.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmW-fj2yVVo