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Title: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 22, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
Considering there is such a wealth of non-orchestral 1 per part chamber/ensemble works out there, especially since the 19th century, I thought I might start a Sammy-style game to see where our preferences lie. What I find most interesting about this repertoire is that there seem to be very few standard ensembles which composers write for. The closest ones I can think of is maybe a nonet with winds, horn and strings as well as the Pierrot ensemble and variations on that.

The guidelines in this game for what constitutes as a 'mixed ensemble' work is as follows:



In this thread I'm looking for maybe between 40 and 60 works to be nominated by members of GMG. I'll split up the final nominations into two rounds and then a final round to decide upon a ranking for the top 10 works as voted by us.

Guidelines for nominations (this thread) is as follows:



I hope we have fun with this and may it not cause any bickering.  ;D
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Sammy on April 22, 2018, 04:47:22 PM
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 22, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto
Beethoven - Septet
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: San Antone on April 22, 2018, 05:32:10 PM
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Trout on April 22, 2018, 05:39:45 PM
Boulez: Le marteau sans maître
Copland: Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 22, 2018, 05:57:53 PM
The first eight 8)

Beethoven - Septet
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Mirror Image on April 22, 2018, 06:25:10 PM
Today's choices:

Takemitsu: And then I knew 'twas Wind
Berg: Kammerkonzert
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Mahlerian on April 22, 2018, 06:59:12 PM
Schoenberg: Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg: Serenade, Op. 24
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 07:02:43 PM
Bartok MSPC
Stravinsky Agon


Oops, missed one per part bit.

Bartok Contrasts
Brahms Horn Trio
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: GioCar on April 22, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
Schubert: Octet
Grisey: Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on April 22, 2018, 08:48:09 PM
Martinu Nonet (H314)
Enescu Chamber Symphony Op 33.
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 22, 2018, 10:14:12 PM
Nominations so far:


Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Brahms - Horn Trio
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schubert - Octet
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind

Let's aim for 60 pieces I reckon
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: San Antone on April 23, 2018, 12:17:56 AM
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps

Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: San Antone on April 23, 2018, 12:19:02 AM
Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 07:02:43 PM
Bartok MSPC
Stravinsky Agon


Oops, missed one per part bit.

Bartok Contrasts
Brahms Horn Trio

Good ones; I had thought of them but you got there first.
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Crudblud on April 23, 2018, 12:49:22 AM
Varèse - Octandre
Carter - Triple Duo
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: amw on April 23, 2018, 01:38:25 AM
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: North Star on April 23, 2018, 02:11:58 AM
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Draško on April 23, 2018, 02:25:09 AM
Jean Cras - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio

Toru Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)

Gavriil Popov - Chamber Symphony (flute, trumpet, clarinet, bassoon, violin, cello and double bass)
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: North Star on April 23, 2018, 02:42:02 AM
Quote from: Draško on April 23, 2018, 02:25:09 AM
Jean Cras - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio

Toru Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)

Gavriil Popov - Chamber Symphony (flute, trumpet, clarinet, bassoon, violin, cello and double bass)
I think you'll have to save one for tomorrow, Draško. :)
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Ken B on April 23, 2018, 04:30:03 AM
Steve Martland, Horses Of Instruction
Partch Castor and Pollux — you might need to make a ruling on if this is eligible
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 23, 2018, 05:02:06 AM
Quote from: Ken B on April 23, 2018, 04:30:03 AM
Steve Martland, Horses Of Instruction
Partch Castor and Pollux — you might need to make a ruling on if this is eligible

Yeah I think the Harry Partch should count......it's in a little bit of a grey area because it's pretty much just a work that is almost simply a percussion ensemble work (well, it's in the spirit of a percussion ensemble considering these instruments are non-standard and wouldn't find them anywhere else except in the dreams of percussionists and Partch fans).
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 23, 2018, 05:06:54 AM
Not yet counting Draško's vote because the limit is 2 nominations per person per day, and I don't want to have to make any decisions for anyone else.

The nominations so far (corrected to include North Star's nominations, apologies!):

Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Partch Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Varèse - Octandre



Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Ken B on April 23, 2018, 05:16:18 AM
Quote from: jessop on April 23, 2018, 05:02:06 AM
Yeah I think the Harry Partch should count......it's in a little bit of a grey area because it's pretty much just a work that is almost simply a percussion ensemble work (well, it's in the spirit of a percussion ensemble considering these instruments are non-standard and wouldn't find them anywhere else except in the dreams of percussionists and Partch fans).
Bueno!
Yeah. Technically there is a keyboard and a stringed instrument ... Partch fits few pre existing categories!
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: North Star on April 23, 2018, 05:30:03 AM
Quote from: jessop on April 23, 2018, 05:06:54 AM
Not yet counting Draško's vote because the limit is 2 nominations per person per day, and I don't want to have to make any decisions for anyone else.

The nominations so far:

Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Partch Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Varèse - Octandre
I think you missed my nominations

Quote from: North Star on April 23, 2018, 02:11:58 AM
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 23, 2018, 05:35:28 AM
Quote from: North Star on April 23, 2018, 05:30:03 AM
I think you missed my nominations


Sorry about that. I edited the post.
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 23, 2018, 06:12:52 AM
Boulez: Derive II pour onze instruments
Nyman: And Do They Do
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Mirror Image on April 23, 2018, 06:20:55 AM
Today's picks:

Falla: Harpsichord Concerto
Villa-Lobos: Quinteto Instrumental
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Mahlerian on April 23, 2018, 06:43:04 AM
Schoenberg: Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Stravinsky: Septet
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Trout on April 23, 2018, 07:23:29 AM
Mozart: Gran Partita Serenade
Mozart: Quintet for Piano and Winds
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Draško on April 23, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
Quote from: jessop on April 23, 2018, 05:06:54 AM
Not yet counting Draško's vote because the limit is 2 nominations per person per day, and I don't want to have to make any decisions for anyone else.

Ok, count the first two.
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on April 23, 2018, 09:18:18 AM
Janacek Concertino
Boulez Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 23, 2018, 04:20:56 PM
40 nominations so far, 20 left to go

Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Boulez - Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Falla - Harpsichord Concerto
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Janacek - Concertino
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
Nyman - And Do They Do
Partch - Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Stravinsky - Septet
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Varèse - Octandre
Villa-Lobos - Quinteto Instrumental
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: amw on April 23, 2018, 04:48:54 PM
Barrett (Richard) - Dark Matter
Kurtág - Messages of the late Miss R. V. Troussova
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Crudblud on April 23, 2018, 10:31:19 PM
Wuorinen - Horn Trio
Feldman - For Philip Guston
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: GioCar on April 24, 2018, 03:15:29 AM
Donatoni - Hot
Romitelli - Professor Bad Trip
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ritter on April 24, 2018, 03:22:07 AM
Stockhausen - Kontra-Punkte
Webern- Concerto op. 24
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Ken B on April 24, 2018, 05:02:18 AM
Lou Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Mahler/Schoenberg - Das Lied, chamber version
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 24, 2018, 05:20:01 AM
Quote from: Ken B on April 24, 2018, 05:02:18 AM
Lou Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Mahler/Schoenberg - Das Lied, chamber version

Not so interested in arrangements of orchestral works by other composers, sorry! Maybe pick another piece?
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Ken B on April 24, 2018, 05:49:36 AM
Quote from: jessop on April 24, 2018, 05:20:01 AM
Not so interested in arrangements of orchestral works by other composers, sorry! Maybe pick another piece?
Mozart Kegelstatt Trio K498
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Mirror Image on April 24, 2018, 06:13:13 AM
Today's picks:

Ravel: Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Copland: Sextet
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 24, 2018, 06:13:20 AM
Stravinsky - L'histoire du soldat (original version for narrator, dancers and ensemble)
Xenakis - Phlegra, for 11 instruments
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on April 24, 2018, 06:15:11 AM
Hindemith Kammermusik No 1
Saint-Saens Septet Op 65
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 24, 2018, 06:20:01 AM
Barrett, Richard - Dark Matter
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Boulez - Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Copland - Sextet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Donatoni - Hot
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Falla - Harpsichord Concerto
Feldman - For Philip Guston
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Janacek - Concertino
Kurtág - Messages of the late Miss R. V. Troussova
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Mozart - Kegelstatt Trio K498
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Nyman - And Do They Do
Partch - Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Romitelli - Professor Bad Trip
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Saint-Saens - Septet Op 65
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stockhausen - Kontra-Punkte
Stravinsky - L'histoire du soldat (original version)
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Stravinsky - Septet
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Varèse - Octandre
Villa-Lobos - Quinteto Instrumental
Webern - Concerto op. 24
Wuorinen - Horn Trio
Xenakis - Phlegra, for 11 instruments

Four more selections and I will start the first voting round
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Baron Scarpia on April 24, 2018, 06:22:19 AM
You missed my recent selections.
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: San Antone on April 24, 2018, 06:53:49 AM
PIAZZOLLA: Maria de Buenos Aires Suite
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: North Star on April 24, 2018, 07:00:31 AM
Feldman - Crippled Symmetry
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Mahlerian on April 24, 2018, 07:15:22 AM
Enough room for  Webern: Quartet Op. 22?
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: Trout on April 24, 2018, 07:50:12 AM
And Glass's Music in 12 Parts?
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 24, 2018, 04:17:35 PM
Quote from: Baron Scarpia on April 24, 2018, 06:22:19 AM
You missed my recent selections.

I edited the post
Title: Re: Mixed Ensemble Game (selection thread)
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 24, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
Final list:

Barrett, Richard - Dark Matter
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Boulez - Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Copland - Sextet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Donatoni - Hot
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Falla - Harpsichord Concerto
Feldman - Crippled Symmetry
Feldman - For Philip Guston
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Glass - Music in 12 Parts
Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Janacek - Concertino
Kurtág - Messages of the late Miss R. V. Troussova
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Mozart - Kegelstatt Trio K498
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Nyman - And Do They Do
Partch - Castor and Pollux
Piazzola - Maria de Buenos Aires Suite
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Romitelli - Professor Bad Trip
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Saint-Saens - Septet Op 65
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stockhausen - Kontra-Punkte
Stravinsky - L'histoire du soldat (original version)
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Stravinsky - Septet
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Varèse - Octandre
Villa-Lobos - Quinteto Instrumental
Webern - Concerto op. 24
Webern - Quartet Op. 22
Wuorinen - Horn Trio
Xenakis - Phlegra, for 11 instruments


I'll start round 1 in a little bit, gotta have some breakfast