Considering there is such a wealth of non-orchestral 1 per part chamber/ensemble works out there, especially since the 19th century, I thought I might start a Sammy-style game to see where our preferences lie. What I find most interesting about this repertoire is that there seem to be very few standard ensembles which composers write for. The closest ones I can think of is maybe a nonet with winds, horn and strings as well as the Pierrot ensemble and variations on that.
The guidelines in this game for what constitutes as a 'mixed ensemble' work is as follows:
- 1 player per part.
- The ensemble must cover at least three families of instruments, therefore giving us a minimum of three instruments in a piece of music we might want to nominate. If it is for a larger, non-standard instrumentation then I guess two families of instruments should be fine as a minimum. I just want to avoid an oversaturation of piano quintets, piano quartets, piano trios, solo+piano duos etc.
- The instruments must be specified by the composer—or at least there should be some guideline about recommended instrumentation from the composer to make it eligible for selection in this game.
- The families are: wind, brass, percussion, keyboard, plucked/struck strings, voice, bowed strings.
- Horns count as brass in this game despite historical associations with the wind section.
- Keyboard instruments are a family in their own right and I don't care whether piano is technically percussion or harpsichord is technically a plucked string instrument. :P
- Harps, guitars, mandolins, dulcimer are in the plucked/struck string category.
- Works with electronics are allowed but if there are any grey areas as to whether it constitutes as a sufficient 'third instrument' then I will decide on a case by case basis.
- Works requiring a conductor is allowed, but a conductor ain't an instrument even if the score calls for them to make some sound.
- Works requiring more than one of any instrument are allowed as long as they have separate parts.
In this thread I'm looking for maybe between 40 and 60 works to be nominated by members of GMG. I'll split up the final nominations into two rounds and then a final round to decide upon a ranking for the top 10 works as voted by us.
Guidelines for nominations (this thread) is as follows:
- You may nominate up to two pieces per day.
- You may only nominate each piece once. If a piece has already been nominated, choose a different one.
- As soon as a piece of music has been nominated then it's in the running and will be in one if the voting rounds.
I hope we have fun with this and may it not cause any bickering. ;D
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto
Beethoven - Septet
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Boulez: Le marteau sans maître
Copland: Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
The first eight 8)
Beethoven - Septet
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Today's choices:
Takemitsu: And then I knew 'twas Wind
Berg: Kammerkonzert
Schoenberg: Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg: Serenade, Op. 24
Bartok MSPC
Stravinsky Agon
Oops, missed one per part bit.
Bartok Contrasts
Brahms Horn Trio
Schubert: Octet
Grisey: Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Martinu Nonet (H314)
Enescu Chamber Symphony Op 33.
Nominations so far:
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Brahms - Horn Trio
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schubert - Octet
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Let's aim for 60 pieces I reckon
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Quote from: Ken B on April 22, 2018, 07:02:43 PM
Bartok MSPC
Stravinsky Agon
Oops, missed one per part bit.
Bartok Contrasts
Brahms Horn Trio
Good ones; I had thought of them but you got there first.
Varèse - Octandre
Carter - Triple Duo
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux
Jean Cras - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Toru Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Gavriil Popov - Chamber Symphony (flute, trumpet, clarinet, bassoon, violin, cello and double bass)
Quote from: Draško on April 23, 2018, 02:25:09 AM
Jean Cras - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Toru Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Gavriil Popov - Chamber Symphony (flute, trumpet, clarinet, bassoon, violin, cello and double bass)
I think you'll have to save one for tomorrow,
Draško. :)
Steve Martland, Horses Of Instruction
Partch Castor and Pollux — you might need to make a ruling on if this is eligible
Quote from: Ken B on April 23, 2018, 04:30:03 AM
Steve Martland, Horses Of Instruction
Partch Castor and Pollux — you might need to make a ruling on if this is eligible
Yeah I think the Harry Partch should count......it's in a little bit of a grey area because it's pretty much just a work that is almost simply a percussion ensemble work (well, it's in the
spirit of a percussion ensemble considering these instruments are non-standard and wouldn't find them anywhere else except in the dreams of percussionists and Partch fans).
Not yet counting Draško's vote because the limit is 2 nominations per person per day, and I don't want to have to make any decisions for anyone else.
The nominations so far (corrected to include North Star's nominations, apologies!):
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Partch Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Varèse - Octandre
Quote from: jessop on April 23, 2018, 05:02:06 AM
Yeah I think the Harry Partch should count......it's in a little bit of a grey area because it's pretty much just a work that is almost simply a percussion ensemble work (well, it's in the spirit of a percussion ensemble considering these instruments are non-standard and wouldn't find them anywhere else except in the dreams of percussionists and Partch fans).
Bueno!
Yeah. Technically there is a keyboard and a stringed instrument ... Partch fits few pre existing categories!
Quote from: jessop on April 23, 2018, 05:06:54 AM
Not yet counting Draško's vote because the limit is 2 nominations per person per day, and I don't want to have to make any decisions for anyone else.
The nominations so far:
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Partch Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Varèse - Octandre
I think you missed my nominations
Quote from: North Star on April 23, 2018, 02:11:58 AM
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux
Quote from: North Star on April 23, 2018, 05:30:03 AM
I think you missed my nominations
Sorry about that. I edited the post.
Boulez: Derive II pour onze instruments
Nyman: And Do They Do
Today's picks:
Falla: Harpsichord Concerto
Villa-Lobos: Quinteto Instrumental
Schoenberg: Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Stravinsky: Septet
Mozart: Gran Partita Serenade
Mozart: Quintet for Piano and Winds
Quote from: jessop on April 23, 2018, 05:06:54 AM
Not yet counting Draško's vote because the limit is 2 nominations per person per day, and I don't want to have to make any decisions for anyone else.
Ok, count the first two.
Janacek Concertino
Boulez Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
40 nominations so far, 20 left to go
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Boulez - Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Falla - Harpsichord Concerto
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Janacek - Concertino
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
Nyman - And Do They Do
Partch - Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Stravinsky - Septet
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Varèse - Octandre
Villa-Lobos - Quinteto Instrumental
Barrett (Richard) - Dark Matter
Kurtág - Messages of the late Miss R. V. Troussova
Wuorinen - Horn Trio
Feldman - For Philip Guston
Donatoni - Hot
Romitelli - Professor Bad Trip
Stockhausen - Kontra-Punkte
Webern- Concerto op. 24
Lou Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Mahler/Schoenberg - Das Lied, chamber version
Quote from: Ken B on April 24, 2018, 05:02:18 AM
Lou Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Mahler/Schoenberg - Das Lied, chamber version
Not so interested in arrangements of orchestral works by other composers, sorry! Maybe pick another piece?
Quote from: jessop on April 24, 2018, 05:20:01 AM
Not so interested in arrangements of orchestral works by other composers, sorry! Maybe pick another piece?
Mozart Kegelstatt Trio K498
Today's picks:
Ravel: Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Copland: Sextet
Stravinsky - L'histoire du soldat (original version for narrator, dancers and ensemble)
Xenakis - Phlegra, for 11 instruments
Hindemith Kammermusik No 1
Saint-Saens Septet Op 65
Barrett, Richard - Dark Matter
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Boulez - Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Copland - Sextet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Donatoni - Hot
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Falla - Harpsichord Concerto
Feldman - For Philip Guston
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Janacek - Concertino
Kurtág - Messages of the late Miss R. V. Troussova
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Mozart - Kegelstatt Trio K498
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Nyman - And Do They Do
Partch - Castor and Pollux
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Romitelli - Professor Bad Trip
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Saint-Saens - Septet Op 65
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stockhausen - Kontra-Punkte
Stravinsky - L'histoire du soldat (original version)
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Stravinsky - Septet
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Varèse - Octandre
Villa-Lobos - Quinteto Instrumental
Webern - Concerto op. 24
Wuorinen - Horn Trio
Xenakis - Phlegra, for 11 instruments
Four more selections and I will start the first voting round
You missed my recent selections.
PIAZZOLLA: Maria de Buenos Aires Suite
Feldman - Crippled Symmetry
Enough room for Webern: Quartet Op. 22?
And Glass's Music in 12 Parts?
Final list:
Barrett, Richard - Dark Matter
Bartok - Contrasts
Beethoven - Septet
Berg - Kammerkonzert
Boulez - Dérive 2 for 11 instruments
Boulez - Le marteau sans maître
Boulez - Memoriale for flute and 8 instruments
Brahms - Clarinet Trio in A minor, Op. 114
Brahms - Horn Trio
Carter - Triple Duo
Copland - Appalachian Spring (original chamber version)
Copland - Sextet
Cras, Jean - Quintet for flute, harp and string trio
Debussy - trio for Flute, Viola and Harp
Donatoni - Hot
Enescu - Chamber Symphony Op 33
Falla - Harpsichord Concerto
Feldman - Crippled Symmetry
Feldman - For Philip Guston
Grisey - Quatre chants pour franchir le seuil
Glass - Music in 12 Parts
Harrison - Main Bersama Sama
Hindemith - Kammermusik No 1
Ligeti - Chamber Concerto for 13 Instrumentalists
Ligeti - Trio for violin, horn and piano
Janacek - Concertino
Kurtág - Messages of the late Miss R. V. Troussova
Martinu - Nonet (H314)
Martland, Steve - Horses Of Instruction
Messiaen - Quatuor pour la fin du temps
Mozart - Kegelstatt Trio K498
Mozart - Quintet for Piano and Winds
Mozart - Serenade no. 10 "Gran Partita"
Nyman - And Do They Do
Partch - Castor and Pollux
Piazzola - Maria de Buenos Aires Suite
Poulenc - Sextet for Piano, Flute, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon and Horn
Ravel - Introduction et Allegro for harp, flute, clarinet & string quartet
Ravel - Trois Poèmes de Stéphane Mallarmé
Romitelli - Professor Bad Trip
Saint-Saëns - Le carnaval des animaux (version for 11 instruments)
Saint-Saens - Septet Op 65
Schoenberg - Pierrot lunaire, Op. 21
Schoenberg - Serenade, Op. 24
Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony in E major Op. 9
Schubert - Octet
Schumann - Andante & Variations for two pianos, two cellos & horn
Stockhausen - Kontra-Punkte
Stravinsky - L'histoire du soldat (original version)
Stravinsky - Pastorale for Violin, Oboe, English Horn, Clarinet and Bassoon
Stravinsky - Ragtime for eleven instruments
Stravinsky - Septet
Takemitsu - And then I knew 'twas Wind
Takemitsu - Rain Spell (flute, clarinet, harp, piano and vibraphone)
Varèse - Octandre
Villa-Lobos - Quinteto Instrumental
Webern - Concerto op. 24
Webern - Quartet Op. 22
Wuorinen - Horn Trio
Xenakis - Phlegra, for 11 instruments
I'll start round 1 in a little bit, gotta have some breakfast