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Title: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 08:16:32 AM
I don't think this has been done yet! So, here goes:

Grazyna Bacewicz: Concerto for String Orchestra
Amy Beach: Gaelic Symphony (or Piano Concerto or Piano Quintet)
Lili Boulanger: Psalm 130 for chorus and orchestra
Nadia Boulanger: Fantaisie for piano and orchestra
Cécile Chaminade: Thème variée for piano
Lūcija Garūta: Piano Concerto in F-sharp minor
Ruth Gipps: Horn Concerto (even better than her symphonies IMO)
Zara Levina: Piano Concerto no. 2
Moryfdd Llwyn Owen (great name!): Nocturne for Orchestra in D-flat major
Dora Pejačević: Piano Quintet in B minor

You don't have to come up with 10, BTW. :)
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: vandermolen on May 28, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
Ruth Gipps: Symphony 4
Nina Makarova: Symphony in D Minor
Grace Williams: Symphony 2
Ina Boyle: Symphony No.1 'Glencree' (In the Wicklow Hills)
Dorothy Howell: Symphonic Poem, Lamia (I hope to see it performed at the Proms this year)
Elisabetta Brusa: 'Merlin' Symphonic Poem
Lili Boulanger: For the Funeral of a Soldier
Doreen Carwithen: Bishop Rock Overture
Judith Bailey: 'Havas - a period of summer'
Zara Levina: Piano Concerto No.2
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Florestan on May 28, 2019, 09:25:46 AM
I can't even name 10 female composers, let alone their symphonies.  :laugh:
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Brian on May 28, 2019, 11:25:15 AM
alpha:

Lera Auerbach - 24 Preludes for cello and piano
Grazyna Bacewicz - Concerto for string orchestra (recently got to see this live)
Amy Beach - Suite francaise for solo piano
Louise Farrenc - Symphony No. 1
Gabriela Lena Frank - Leyendas: An Andean Walkabout for string quartet
Lillian Fuchs - Sixteen Fantasy Etudes for solo viola
Vivian Fung - Violin Concerto
Jennifer Higdon - Light Refracted for string quartet, clarinet, and piano
Elena Kats-Chernin - Ornamental Air, concerto for basset clarinet and orchestra
Caroline Shaw - Partita for eight voices

Can do a top 3 in order: 1. Shaw Partita 2. Auerbach preludes 3. Farrenc symphony

Just got the MDG recording of Chaminade's piano trios, eager to dive into that. Hon. mention to Farrenc's sextet.

Quote from: Florestan on May 28, 2019, 09:25:46 AM
I can't even name 10 female composers, let alone their symphonies.  :laugh:
You need to start working to correct that wrong!
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on May 28, 2019, 11:51:33 AM
I listened to this yesterday:

Amy Beach: Gaelic Symphony

To me it sounds pretty tedious, as in there really isn't any individual voice in it, just sounds like any other late Romantic symphony.

2 of my favorite are

1) Clara Schumann's Piano Concerto in A minor (coincidence?) If you close your eyes it always sounds like Robert's PC.
2) Jennifer Higdon's new Harp Concerto. OK it is not THAT great but the bar isn't terribly high nowadays, male or female. Sorry.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: amw on May 28, 2019, 12:38:16 PM
Maja S.K. Ratkje - Crepuscular Hour
Galina Ustvolskaya - Grand Duet
Rebecca Saunders - fletch
Éliane Radigue - Occam series
Liza Lim - Extinction Events and Dawn Chorus
Chaya Czernowin - Ayre "Towed Through Plumes, Thicket, Asphalt, Sawdust and Hazardous Air I Shall Not Forget The Sound Of"
Annea Lockwood - Thousand Year Dreaming
Elisabeth Jacquet de la Guerre - Pièces de clavecin 1687
Milica Djordjević - The Death of the Star-Knower
Rebecca Clarke - Viola Sonata
Olivia Block - 132 Ranks
Ruth Crawford Seeger - Quartet 1931

offhand anyway. 1 per composer to prevent list inflation
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Ken B on May 28, 2019, 12:52:39 PM
I doubt I could name 10 "favorite " ones. I do like this Canadian Symphony though, http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2018/11/a-canadian-symphony.html (http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2018/11/a-canadian-symphony.html)
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on May 28, 2019, 12:59:28 PM
My 10 favorite pieces by female composers are all by Bacewicz.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: schnittkease on May 28, 2019, 02:22:19 PM
Chin: Violin Concerto
Clarke: Viola Sonata
Crawford Seeger: String Quartet (1931)
Gubaidulina: Offertorium
Gubaidulina: String Quartet No. 4
Gubaidulina: Viola Concerto
Saariaho: Lichtbogen
Saariaho: Sept papillons
Ustvolskaya: Piano Sonata No. 5
Ustvolskaya: Piano Sonata No. 6
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on May 28, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
Ruth Gipps: Symphony 4
Nina Makarova: Symphony in D Minor
Grace Williams: Symphony 2
Ina Boyle: Symphony No.1 'Glencree' (In the Wicklow Hills)
Dorothy Howell: Symphonic Poem, Lamia (I hope to see it performed at the Proms this year)
Elisabetta Brusa: 'Merlin' Symphonic Poem
Lili Boulanger: For the Funeral of a Soldier
Doreen Carwithen: Bishop Rock Overture
Judith Bailey: 'Havas - a period of summer'
Zara Levina: Piano Concerto No.2

Great list, Jeffrey. I could've easily chosen Gipps' Symphony 4 or Makarova's Symphony, which gets off to a rather slow start but eventually becomes quite an impressive work.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: Brian on May 28, 2019, 11:25:15 AM
alpha:

Lera Auerbach - 24 Preludes for cello and piano
Grazyna Bacewicz - Concerto for string orchestra (recently got to see this live)
Amy Beach - Suite francaise for solo piano
Louise Farrenc - Symphony No. 1
Gabriela Lena Frank - Leyendas: An Andean Walkabout for string quartet
Lillian Fuchs - Sixteen Fantasy Etudes for solo viola
Vivian Fung - Violin Concerto
Jennifer Higdon - Light Refracted for string quartet, clarinet, and piano
Elena Kats-Chernin - Ornamental Air, concerto for basset clarinet and orchestra
Caroline Shaw - Partita for eight voices

Can do a top 3 in order: 1. Shaw Partita 2. Auerbach preludes 3. Farrenc symphony

Just got the MDG recording of Chaminade's piano trios, eager to dive into that. Hon. mention to Farrenc's sextet.

Great list, Brian! Some new composers for me to explore there.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 28, 2019, 11:51:33 AM
I listened to this yesterday:

Amy Beach: Gaelic Symphony

To me it sounds pretty tedious, as in there really isn't any individual voice in it, just sounds like any other late Romantic symphony.

Sure, it's no masterpiece, and is influenced by Dvorak and (to a lesser extent) Brahms, but I find it a very enjoyable work. It's one of those rare symphonies where the first movement is actually the weakest (IMO) - I find the subsequent three movements more engaging.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 02:32:20 PM
Quote from: amw on May 28, 2019, 12:38:16 PM
Maja S.K. Ratkje - Crepuscular Hour
Galina Ustvolskaya - Grand Duet
Rebecca Saunders - fletch
Éliane Radigue - Occam series
Liza Lim - Extinction Events and Dawn Chorus
Chaya Czernowin - Ayre "Towed Through Plumes, Thicket, Asphalt, Sawdust and Hazardous Air I Shall Not Forget The Sound Of"
Annea Lockwood - Thousand Year Dreaming
Elisabeth Jacquet de la Guerre - Pièces de clavecin 1687
Milica Djordjević - The Death of the Star-Knower
Rebecca Clarke - Viola Sonata
Olivia Block - 132 Ranks
Ruth Crawford Seeger - Quartet 1931

offhand anyway. 1 per composer to prevent list inflation

I could've easily chosen Clarke's Viola Sonata as well. Great piece.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
Without wishing to turn this thread down a pessimistic route, it seems that Lili Boulanger's premature death was a double blow. Not only did it mean we'd have no more music from her, but it also apparently discouraged her sister Nadia from pursuing composition any further - and she was a very talented composer as well on the basis of her beautiful Fantaisie for piano and orchestra. How very sad! Well, at least she went on to become one of the most influential teachers of the 20th century.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: relm1 on May 28, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
Hannah Lash: Music for Loss
Ruth Gipps: Symphony 4
Grace Williams: Symphony 2
Anna Clyne: Abstractions (Seascape)
Kaija Saariaho: Chateau de l'ame
Kaija Saariaho: Orion
Elisabetta Brusa: "Florestan" per grande orchestra
Lili Boulanger: Faust et Helene
Hildegard von Bingen: Ordo Virtutum
Amy Beach: Gaelic Symphony

These are works any man would be deeply honored to have composed.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on May 28, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
Sure, it's no masterpiece, and is influenced by Dvorak and (to a lesser extent) Brahms, but I find it a very enjoyable work. It's one of those rare symphonies where the first movement is actually the weakest (IMO) - I find the subsequent three movements more engaging.
Could have been influenced by Dvorak's 9th if you really listen to it. Anyway nothing that stamps "American" on it, which is the reason I don't enjoy music by American composers from this era. The so-called Boston Six more or less sound like each other and can easily be mistaken for some second-rate Austro-German late Romantic music.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: schnittkease on May 28, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 28, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Could have been influenced by Dvorak's 9th if you really listen to it. Anyway nothing that stamps "American" on it, which is the reason I don't enjoy music by American composers from this era. The so-called Boston Six more or less sound like each other and can easily be mistaken for some second-rate Austro-German late Romantic music.

Completely agree. The obvious exceptions are Ives and perhaps Gottschalk.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: vandermolen on May 28, 2019, 09:34:08 PM
Quote from: kyjo on May 28, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
Without wishing to turn this thread down a pessimistic route, it seems that Lili Boulanger's premature death was a double blow. Not only did it mean we'd have no more music from her, but it also apparently discouraged her sister Nadia from pursuing composition any further - and she was a very talented composer as well on the basis of her beautiful Fantaisie for piano and orchestra. How very sad! Well, at least she went on to become one of the most influential teachers of the 20th century.
Yes, her premature death was such a loss to music. I could also have selected her 'Psalm 130' but was trying not to replicate too many of your choices Kyle. Also I'd actually heard the work I selected in concert - very moving in the context of the centenary of the end of World War One last year.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: vandermolen on May 28, 2019, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: relm1 on May 28, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
Hannah Lash: Music for Loss
Ruth Gipps: Symphony 4
Grace Williams: Symphony 2
Anna Clyne: Abstractions (Seascape)
Kaija Saariaho: Chateau de l'ame
Kaija Saariaho: Orion
Elisabetta Brusa: "Florestan" per grande orchestra
Lili Boulanger: Faust et Helene
Hildegard von Bingen: Ordo Virtutum
Amy Beach: Gaelic Symphony

These are works any man would be deeply honored to have composed.
Nice choices, not that I know them all. I must listen to 'Florestan' by Elisabetta Brusa. I've enjoyed everything I've heard by her.
Am currently enjoying this CD:
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Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Daverz on May 28, 2019, 10:56:32 PM
Farrenc: Symphonies
Zara Levina: Piano Concertos
Bacewicz: VC 1; Piano Quintet 1
Judith Lang Zaimont: Symphony No. 1
Rebecca Clarke: Viola Sonata
Pejačević: Piano Concerto
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Christo on May 29, 2019, 01:29:14 AM
Off the top of my head:

Ina Boyle: Symphony No. 1 'Glencree'
Elizabeth Maconchy: Symphony For Double String Orchestra
Ruth Gipps: Symphony No. 4
Grace Williams: Symphony No. 2
Germaine Tailleferre: Concertino for Harp and Orchestra
Cécile Chaminade: Concertino for flute and orchestra
Lili Boulanger: Du fond de l'abîme
Ester Mägi: Symphony
Anne-Marie Ørbeck: Pastorale and Allegro for Flute and String Orchestra
Grażyna Bacewicz: Concerto for String Orchestra
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: amw on May 29, 2019, 02:11:49 AM
I did some math and music by women composers makes up only ~3.7% of my collection (and only ~13% of my collection of composers born after 1940) so I'm glad to see lots of unfamiliar names and works in this thread to explore.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: kyjo on May 29, 2019, 05:49:17 AM
Quote from: Christo on May 29, 2019, 01:29:14 AM
Off the top of my head:

Ina Boyle: Symphony No. 1 'Glencree'
Elizabeth Maconchy: Symphony For Double String Orchestra
Ruth Gipps: Symphony No. 4
Grace Williams: Symphony No. 2
Germaine Tailleferre: Concertino for Harp and Orchestra
Cécile Chaminade: Concertino for flute and orchestra
Lili Boulanger: Du fond de l'abîme
Ester Mägi: Symphony
Anne-Marie Ørbeck: Pastorale and Allegro for Flute and String Orchestra
Grażyna Bacewicz: Concerto for String Orchestra

I nearly included the Maconchy and Tailleferre works myself. I also greatly enjoy Tailleferre's 1st Piano Concerto.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Brian on May 29, 2019, 06:02:19 AM
Shoot, I forgot about Tailleferre. It's exciting to see the huge stylistic diversity in this thread. Only surprise is just one mention for Hildegard and zero for Barbara Strozzi.

Quote from: schnittkease on May 28, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
Completely agree. The obvious exceptions are Ives and perhaps Gottschalk.
Definitely Gottschalk - a few jazz musicians in New Orleans still play his tunes.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: pjme on May 29, 2019, 07:04:29 AM
A most interesting theme. Only 20th century choices. There are many more, of course:

Elisabeth Lutyens - I remember a quite extraordinary cantata "O saisons, o chateaux". And "Quincunx".
On YT many scores she wrote for horrorfilms!
and this charming romp:
https://youtu.be/2CYL8P0TlLg
On Belgian radio I heard many years ago the second pianoconcerto by French composer / pianist Odette Gartenlaub.
https://youtu.be/r-rXnYtBIlg
Belgo/British Pianist/composer Denise Tolkowsky was also a respected paedagogue. After the suicide of her husband piano virtuoso Alex Devries she devoted her life to helping young musicians. Her pianoconcerto is an exuberant concoction of Bartok, Liszt and Kachaturian...and a dash of jazz!
https://youtu.be/R7k1LH4aCW0
Dutch composer Henriette Bosmans is definitely not an expressionist.
It is easy to understand why Pierre Monteux loved her lovely pianoconcertino.
https://youtu.be/69QT3cwSXhI

Germaine Tailleferre (I love her harpconcertino) is definitely not the only French "compositrice":

Yvonne Desportes wrote two percussionconcertos for her son Vincent Geminiani (plenty of educational & chamber music on YT)
Elsa Barraine wrote two symphonies (1930-1938).
https://youtu.be/yPnUkjjfpp0
Adrienne Clostre.
Suzanne Demarquez 
Betsy Jolas : the Boston SO will play her Letters from Bachville.
Ginette Keller:
https://youtu.be/1FlX2gkwzL8
Marcelle de Manziarly
https://youtu.be/QcDW8pR6MO0
Composer-organist Henriette Puig-Roget wrote some large scale works I'd love to hear: Montanyas del rosello, Sinfonia Andorrana, a cello and a pianoconcerto...
Jeannine Rueff: several concertos, a Symphonietta, a ballet "Gargouilles"...

In Belgium Nini Bulterijs: a very expressionistic Symphony (used to be available on LP) and pianoconcerto.
Jacqueline Fontyn: https://youtu.be/Qygy4knO-5w

I almost forgot the quite extraordinary Symphony by Minna Keal (1909- 1999), which she wrote at 80! On cd it is coupled with (a gentler...) Cantilliation for violin and orchestra.
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: some guy on May 29, 2019, 12:44:15 PM
I'm looking forward to the day when this isn't even a thing. But since that day has not come, yet, here goes. Also note that these are pieces that do not simply rework genres from the 18th and 19th centuries, but make new things. (Composers, male or female, who do other things besides string trios and symphonies, don't get much traction on boards of this sort. That's another day I'm looking forward to. And since I already have 67 years, I do wish everyone would just hurry the hell up.)

Maryanne Amacher, Sound Characters
Michèle Bokanowski, L'étoile Absinthe
Anna Clyne, Choke
Beatriz Ferreyra, Un fil invisible
Emmanuelle Gibello, Labyrinthe|c104 goto N901
Christine Groult, Pierres Cantabiles
Elsa Justel, Gwerz
Christina Kubisch, Sechs Spiegel
Bérangèr Maximin, Bicéphale Ballade
Katsura Mouri (1/2 of "Busratch"), Memorium
Eliane Radigue, Trilogie de la Mort
Sachiko M, 1:2
Alice Shields, Coyote

A baker's dozen being "10 (or so)."

Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: Trout on June 05, 2019, 03:27:44 PM
Limiting myself to 1 per composer:

Chin: Cello Concerto
Crawford Seeger: String Quartet 1931
Czernowin: MAIM
Gubaidulina: In Tempus Praesens
Hildegard: Ordo Virtutum
Monk: Dolmen Music
Neuwirth: Lost Highway
Saariaho: L'amour de loin
Soper: Voices from the Killing Jar
Wolfe: Anthracite Fields
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: vandermolen on June 27, 2019, 12:42:57 PM
New addition to my list:
'Slatta' Piano Concerto by Jorunn Vidar (Icelandic composer 1918-2017)
Title: Re: 10 (or so) favorite compositions by female composers
Post by: musicrom on August 24, 2019, 06:06:23 PM
Auerbach: 24 Preludes for Violin and Piano
Auerbach: Piano Trio
Chaminade: 6 Romances sans paroles
Clarke: Viola Sonata
Clyne: A Wonderful Day
Crawford Seeger: Theme and Variations, for piano
Gubaidulina: Concerto for Viola and Orchestra
Musgrave: The Seasons
Schumann: Piano Trio in G minor
Viardot: Violin Sonatina

... this was honestly more difficult to come up with than I expected. I should fix that!