Feel sad about this today - they reminded us on the radio today that at the end of WW2 Churchill said that he looked forward to 'a United States of Europe'. Can't help thinking that Brexit is a retrograde move, not in the interests of the country - but many will be celebrating. Perhaps I'll hold a two minute silence at 11.00pm.
:(
Tory MEP Daniel Hannan said in a speech at Brussels "You are losing a bad tenant and gaining a good neighbour". Politically Cameron and the EU made a huge miscalculation, between them they could have spiked Farage's guns. That they didn't has led to this. A genuine sadness on both sides I think, except of course the disgraceful behaviour of Farage and his gang.
Quote from: Irons on January 31, 2020, 12:39:18 AM
Tory MEP Daniel Hannan said in a speech at Brussels "You are losing a bad tenant and gaining a good neighbour". Politically Cameron and the EU made a huge miscalculation, between them they could have spiked Farage's guns. That they didn't has led to this. A genuine sadness on both sides I think, except of course the disgraceful behaviour of Farage and his gang.
I like the quote. Totally agree about Farage whom my daughter had the misfortune of interviewing.
Interesting to see what UK is going to do with it's new freedom from EU. My guess is the rights of the working class will be attacked so that the rich can enjoy even bigger profits on the expense of workers. I believe that was the reason why people in UK had to be brainwashed to vote for Brexit. Being a member of EU didn't allow crony enough capitalism for the rich. How long will it take before people in UK realize what's going on?
There is so much to love and to be proud of in this Great Britain. On this island of yours. Of ours, if i may, after 22 years here.
Democracy is what it is and you have to go with it. Even more so as a long term expat not being allowed to vote on such impacting matters. So be it.
I bloody love the UK but, by Jove, these last three years have been testing it. It was absolutely sickening waiting for that Leave to Remain approval, and even when granted, wondering what would/will come next.
I am French. I hope we kick the rosbeefs' proverbial behinds on the Rugby Crunch on Sunday (one can but dream) but I will still love the UK. After the game, I may have a Sunday pork roast (with crackling and lots of gravy) and a sticky toffee pudding with custard. And on Monday night I will raise a glass to the memory of Nicholas Parsons while laughing away at Paul Merton talking away for "Just a minute" without repetition, hesitation or deviation. then i might put a CD of Moeran or Rubbra on...Feeling so enriched for living an Entente Cordiale, with a foot on each side of La Manche...
There is a lot to love and to be proud of.
Tonight does not feel like it.
Quote from: vandermolen on January 30, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
Feel sad about this today - they reminded us on the radio today that at the end of WW2 Churchill said that he looked forward to 'a United States of Europe'. Can't help thinking that Brexit is a retrograde move, not in the interests of the country - but many will be celebrating. Perhaps I'll hold a two minute silence at 11.00pm.
:(
It is indeed really sad... and the writing on the wall, warning us of the dark times ahead.
But it is too early to tell whether Brexit itself will be a major disaster.
Perhaps Boris - out if necessity - will do a U-turn and will keep the UK closely aligned to the EU.
The risks for UK are substantial. Brexit has put its economy, geopolitical influence and even its territorial integrity on the line.
Let's hope Brexit has a soft landing.
After all, there is a lot that can happen in a year: a pandemic, a worldwide economic crisis (or both), a war in the Middle East, a climate crisis, you name it. All of which would make Brexit seem like a Sunday afternoon picnic.
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Really sorry to see this play out the way it has. The whole "Anglosphere" seems to be going nuts.
Quote from: Papy Oli on January 31, 2020, 08:00:37 AM
There is so much to love and to be proud of in this Great Britain. On this island of yours. Of ours, if i may, after 22 years here.
Democracy is what it is and you have to go with it. Even more so as a long term expat not being allowed to vote on such impacting matters. So be it.
I bloody love the UK but, by Jove, these last three years have been testing it. It was absolutely sickening waiting for that Leave to Remain approval, and even when granted, wondering what would/will come next.
I am French. I hope we kick the rosbeefs' proverbial behinds on the Rugby Crunch on Sunday (one can but dream) but I will still love the UK. After the game, I may have a Sunday pork roast (with crackling and lots of gravy) and a sticky toffee pudding with custard. And on Monday night I will raise a glass to the memory of Nicholas Parsons while laughing away at Paul Merton talking away for "Just a minute" without repetition, hesitation or deviation. then i might put a CD of Moeran or Rubbra on...Feeling so enriched for living an Entente Cordiale, with a foot on each side of La Manche...
There is a lot to love and to be proud of.
Tonight does not feel like it.
Nice post Olivier. I must say that Brexit coming at the same time as the death of Nicholas Parsons does feel like Armageddon!
Quote from: vandermolen on January 31, 2020, 12:37:51 PM
Nice post Olivier. I must say that Brexit coming at the same time as the death of Nicholas Parsons does feel like Armageddon!
I am coping by watching Good Omens on bbc catch up by Pratchett and Gaiman... Armageddon somehow seems fitting >:D :laugh:
As an Anglophile I was glad when the UK joined the EU in 1973, but after 47 years of "half in, half out" I can't say I'm very sad to see it go.
Quote from: vandermolen on January 30, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
Feel sad about this today ..
+1
Have accepted it, but the impression of a bad/absurd dream remains. Hope I'm wrong. As an example of absurdity, Douglas Carswell, winner of UKIP's only seat in 2015, was interviewed on the radio today saying he didn't like triumphalism, but that now all the Brexit doomsayers who had claimed it would be a disaster, should admit they were wrong ... clearly a seer of extraordinary power knowing that it's all going to work out well before anything's even happened. ::)
But the recent election was very decisive, the Tory's look extremely comfortable and I can't imagine outside of a major surprise, that they won't ease into power at the next one too. The control of Brexit is in their hands, so it seems there's not much anyone can do about it now, apart from hope for the best.
Quote from: vandermolen on January 31, 2020, 12:37:51 PM
Nice post Olivier. I must say that Brexit coming at the same time as the death of Nicholas Parsons does feel like Armageddon!
For us, at the wrong but lucky side of the Pond, it is too. May G'd have mercy on the UK, as it will go from harrassment to harrassment over the next few years, with always one big victim first and for all til the bitter end: common people (losing their civil rights, homes, even country of birth & so much more). Hope and expect Scotland to re-join the European family ASAP and may the rest of the Blessed Isles follow soon after the removal of the Greedy & Totally Self-Centred Idiots in Westminster. #Amen :D
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The UK flag being removed at the European Concil building.
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Quote from: Que on February 01, 2020, 02:50:05 AM
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The UK flag being removed at the European Concil building.
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Do the EU flags all need to be remade with one less star or doesn't it match the number of countries? I haven't seen any here for years to count them.
Quote from: steve ridgway on February 01, 2020, 05:04:20 AM
Do the EU flags all need to be remade with one less star or doesn't it match the number of countries? I haven't seen any here for years to count them.
It has been always (since 1955) the symbolic number of twelve stars:
"Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars symbolise the peoples of Europe in a form of a circle, a sign of union. Their number is invariably twelve,
the figure twelve being the symbol of perfection and entirety. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_(number)#Ancient_Greek_religion)"
— Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955.
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Quote from: Que on February 01, 2020, 05:15:18 AM
It has been always (since 1955) the symbolic number of twelve stars:
"Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars symbolise the peoples of Europe in a form of a circle, a sign of union. Their number is invariably twelve, the figure twelve being the symbol of perfection and entirety. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_(number)#Ancient_Greek_religion)"
— Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955.
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Thanks for that. At least some further expense will be avoided.
Quote from: Que on February 01, 2020, 02:50:05 AM
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The UK flag being removed at the European Concil building.
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The gentleman removing the flag looks as if he's involved in some sinister one-legged masonic rite, perhaps consigning us to be crushed under the mighty EU heel for our apostasy. As if we haven't got enough problems.
Quote from: Iota on February 01, 2020, 07:17:43 AM
The gentleman removing the flag looks as if he's involved in some sinister one-legged masonic rite, perhaps consigning us to be crushed under the mighty EU heel for our apostasy. As if we haven't got enough problems.
He's taking it to be recycled according to EU rules, reduced to pulp to be used in the manufacture of toilet paper.
Henceforth, wiping your bum in an EU country is officially referred to as "Boris's salute."
:)
Projected onto white cliffs at Dover. Message to EU:
(//)
The day after...
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/63431ffd2a34ba549ff2b7d509539eabe3bfd5cf/0_0_4891_3159/master/4891.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=95cd2a77c46c710748d388a99db30959)
Apparently, the work is all done:
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZVYqB0uTKlE
Brexit feels bad.
And I do not trust the
good intentions of Boris Johnson and his club of
good ole Brittany gonna rule the waves again for one penny, so that makes me feel extra sad.
Democracy is awesome, but what if its taken over by a Circus of Fools?
Quote from: mc ukrneal on February 01, 2020, 11:04:02 AM
Apparently, the work is all done:
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZVYqB0uTKlE
But I still LOVE this! :laugh:
Let's all laugh about ourselves, that's probably the best.
Quote from: mc ukrneal on February 01, 2020, 11:04:02 AM
Apparently, the work is all done:
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZVYqB0uTKlE
Hilarious, but still sooo true! :)
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Happy Brexit Day.....
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dbd438ca677c2d4bccf2efcf23c5de3afa6b49ae/0_0_1536_2048/master/1536.jpg?width=1225&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=71f6c145d19553108be9b3fda75815b5)
"...the the the the the the Queens English is the spoken tongue here."
OK boomer. I hope these true patriots don't run out of toilet paper talking this much crap. ::)
Quote from: Que on February 01, 2020, 03:15:10 PM
Happy Brexit Day.....
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Let's also rid the language of Norman corruptions and return to the purity of 1065.
Quote from: Que on February 01, 2020, 03:15:10 PM
Happy Brexit Day.....
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That's what you get when cavemen crawl out of their hiding places... Thanks Boris.
Quote from: Que on February 01, 2020, 03:15:10 PM
Happy Brexit Day.....
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dbd438ca677c2d4bccf2efcf23c5de3afa6b49ae/0_0_1536_2048/master/1536.jpg?width=1225&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=71f6c145d19553108be9b3fda75815b5)
Grammar police duty, so the notice actually conforms to the Queen's English.
As we finally have our great country bac
k, we feel there is one rule which needs to be made clear to the Winchester Tower residents.
We
will not tolerate people speaking languages
other than English in
these flats.
We are now our own country again and
the Queen
's English is the spoken tongue here.
If you
wish to speak the mother tongue of
whatever country you came from
, we suggest you
go back there, and return your flat to the council so they can
allow British people
to live here
, and we can return to what was normality before you infected this once great island.
It's a simple choic
e: obey the rule of the majority or leave.
It won't be long until our government will implement rules that will put
Britain first. So, best evolve or leave.
God Save the Queen, her governmen
t, and all true patriots.
It could be real, it could be a hoax. It seems bizarre to suggest people could be restricted from saying what they please in their own flats.
Quote from: Ratliff on February 01, 2020, 07:33:45 PM
It could be real, it could be a hoax. It seems bizarre to suggest people could be restricted from saying what they please in their own flats.
It would be nice if it were a hoax. But perhaps the poster merely meant the halls, lobbies, and public areas.
Quote from: SimonNZ on February 01, 2020, 05:20:46 PM
Let's also rid the language of Norman corruptions and return to the purity of 1065.
Oh horrors! Will I have to learn Welsh? ???
In fact it's high time everyone of Norman descent was shipped back to France.
This means you, Lizzie.
Quote from: J.A.W. on February 01, 2020, 05:38:50 PM
That's what you get when cavemen crawl out of their hiding places... Thanks Boris.
+1
I hope that it's a hoax, but who knows in the current atmosphere.
Quote from: JBS on February 01, 2020, 06:55:39 PM
Grammar police duty, so the notice actually conforms to the Queen's English.
I see you apply the
Oxford comma (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma)! :)
The one that is conspicuously missing on the new Brext 50p coin:
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/6a09a527f298156d7679e7d10591bc7a334bb771/193_108_3130_1877/master/3130.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=b242d5920e7f9e04c4f36e004513cd03)
Philip Pullman calls for boycott of Brexit 50p coin over 'missing' Oxford comma (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jan/27/brexit-50p-coin-boycott-philip-pullman-oxford-comma)
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Quote from: vandermolen on February 01, 2020, 10:57:54 PM
+1
I hope that it's a hoax, but who knows in the current atmosphere.
The police are investigating:
Happy Brexit Day' signs at Norwich flats say 'only speak English' (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-51341735)
I initially thought it might well be a anti-Brexit prank.
But now I'm reading that the flat is designated for people over 55, I'm wondering..... ::)
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When in Rome...
(https://i.imgur.com/oUFKFAh.jpg)
'Our European ties of history and culture, of hearts and kinship, cannot be severed with a tawdry light show, a smirking boast and a toast. They are vital bonds that will endure and that we hope, one day, with good grace and rediscovered wisdom, will be reinvigorated.'
Front page of the Observer newspaper today.
Quote from: J.A.W. on February 01, 2020, 05:38:50 PM
That's what you get when cavemen crawl out of their hiding places... Thanks Boris.
Thanks David Cameron as well.
Quote from: Todd on February 08, 2020, 05:39:49 AM
Excellent news for the world. Hopefully, this leads to an accelerated demise of the EU.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS INSANE. WHY DID YOU COME BACK?
What good can this bring to the World? Putin smiles of course, but YOU ARE NOT Russian ARE YOU??
:-X
Quote from: Todd on February 08, 2020, 05:39:49 AM
Excellent news for the world. Hopefully, this leads to an accelerated demise of the EU.
Hahahahaha! :laugh:
Quote from: Christo on February 08, 2020, 11:56:16 AM
:-X
Hahahahaha! :laugh:
Todd was away for so long my IGNORE TODD-mode had gone off by itself! I replied to some of his posts accidentally. Now the IGNORE TODD-mode it's engaged again. :)
One group of people who are very happy with Brexit are Britain's farmers.
One group who might not be happy are European footballers from the EU. A work permit will soon be required before any transfer takes place under the conditions of the system. Meeting those criteria will become harder. Hopefully this will reduce the ludicrously inflated prices being paid for footballers. The EPL leads the stats in the average amount of transfer money paid.
Quote from: Holden on February 08, 2020, 10:31:12 PM
One group of people who are very happy with Brexit are Britain's farmers.
They are, and there is a lot of justified criticism of the EU agricultural policies.
But I do wonder if they thought the whole thing through. The risks they run due to loss of subidies and free access to markets could be considerable. They are also protected from having to compete against cheap imports produced against lower environmental or health standards, or just being price dumped, for instance from the US.
Anyway, the EU-subsudies are gone but the UK govt has decided to continue paying them till the end of the year.
So, even for farmers things will stay the same for now. Like the rest of the UK, they know what they left (or rather: will leave) behind but do not know what they will get in exchange:
British farmers fear Boris Johnson will surrender UK food standards to Trump in talks with 'fearsome' US negotiators (https://www.businessinsider.nl/british-farmers-fear-boris-johnson-surrender-trump-brexit-trade-talks-2020-2?international=true&r=US) (Business Insider)
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Quote from: Que on February 09, 2020, 12:05:04 AM
They are, and there is a lot of justified criticism of the EU agricultural policies.
But I do wonder if they thought the whole thing through. The risks they run due to loss of subidies and free access to markets could be considerable. They are also protected from having to compete against cheap imports produced against lower environmental or health standards, or just being price dumped, for instance from the US.
Anyway, the EU-subsudies are gone but the UK govt has decided to continue paying them till the end of the year.
So, even for farmers things will stay the same for now. Like the rest of the UK, they know what they left (or rather: will leave) behind but do not know what they will get in exchange:
British farmers fear Boris Johnson will surrender UK food standards to Trump in talks with 'fearsome' US negotiators (https://www.businessinsider.nl/british-farmers-fear-boris-johnson-surrender-trump-brexit-trade-talks-2020-2?international=true&r=US) (Business Insider)
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Yes the issue of the chlorine washed chicken is a complicated one and I don't know what to think. I don't know if there's any evidence that allowing it will lead to a reduction in hygiene standards, maybe you've got some access to data. Are American chicken production methods known to be dirtier than ours? Are there more human infectious diseases associated with eating American meat?
Quote from: Mandryka on February 09, 2020, 01:33:34 AM
Yes the issue of the chlorine washed chicken is a complicated one and I don't know what to think. I don't know if there's any evidence that allowing it will lead to a reduction in hygiene standards, maybe you've got some access to data. Are American chicken production methods known to be dirtier than ours? Are there more human infectious diseases associated with eating American meat?
I was looking at the farmers' perspective, not the consumers'.
I'm certainly not an expert in the matter and perhaps there is some scare mongering about "infectious diseases" that is to be taken with a grain of salt. But the way I understand it is that although US food standards are very high if you compare internationally, EU standards are stricter in certain respects. We are mainly talking about the use of certain additives and genetically modified crops, chemical washes (hence the "chlorinated chicken"), the use of certain pesticides, and of hormones in meat production.
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Quote from: Que on February 09, 2020, 02:12:23 AM
I was looking at the farmers' perspective, not the consumers'.
I'm certainly not an expert in the matter and perhaps there is some scare mongering about "infectious diseases" that is to be taken with a grain of salt. But the way I understand it is that although US food standards are very high if you compare internationally, EU standards are stricter in certain respects. We are mainly talking about the use of certain additives and genetically modified crops, chemical washes (hence the "chlorinated chicken"), the use of pesticides, and of hormones in meat production.
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Luckily British produce is usually prominently marked as such and some chains of stores specialise in it so it's OK for those of us who (have somebody to) cook actual meat and vegetables.
Quote from: steve ridgway on February 09, 2020, 02:55:49 AM
Luckily British produce is usually prominently marked as such and some chains of stores specialise in it so it's OK for those of us who (have somebody to) cook actual meat and vegetables.
The problem is school and hospital meals, processed foods etc.
Anyway the devil's always in the details and I think it's potentially a good thing that things like this are put on the table for a public discussion. Now we're going to need an incicive, courageous, well informed and independent press.
Quote from: Mandryka on February 09, 2020, 01:33:34 AM
Yes the issue of the chlorine washed chicken is a complicated one and I don't know what to think. I don't know if there's any evidence that allowing it will lead to a reduction in hygiene standards, maybe you've got some access to data. Are American chicken production methods known to be dirtier than ours? Are there more human infectious diseases associated with eating American meat?
We (British) wash our salad leaves in chlorine treated water, what's the difference?
The UK is returning to the old blue passport (to be made in France ;D) replacing the current burgundy EU passport. A friend just forwarded this to me:
(//)
Quote from: vandermolen on February 23, 2020, 01:25:34 AM
The UK is returning to the old blue passport (to be made in France ;D) replacing the current burgundy EU passport. A friend just forwarded this to me:
(//)
I was doing well with 1-4-6-8 until the bottom line. Not poor or rich and where is "good looking" 8) As for colour of passport it could be pink for all I care.
Crisis, what Crisis....
The Union flag has been flying outside Parliament upside down, according to claims Jacob Rees-Mogg described as "deeply troubling".
Raising the issue in the Commons, Conservative MP Robert Courts suggested that the national flag had been on display incorrectly outside Portcullis House for "some time".
He said that while he didn't want to be "too much of a stickler" he felt that it should be brought to the House's attention.
Flying the flag upside down is famously a coded signal for "danger and distress" in the military.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/05/union-flag-has-flying-outside-parliament-upside/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/05/union-flag-has-flying-outside-parliament-upside/)
Quote from: Papy Oli on March 05, 2020, 07:33:55 AM
Crisis, what Crisis....
The Union flag has been flying outside Parliament upside down, according to claims Jacob Rees-Mogg described as "deeply troubling".
Raising the issue in the Commons, Conservative MP Robert Courts suggested that the national flag had been on display incorrectly outside Portcullis House for "some time".
He said that while he didn't want to be "too much of a stickler" he felt that it should be brought to the House's attention.
Flying the flag upside down is famously a coded signal for "danger and distress" in the military.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/05/union-flag-has-flying-outside-parliament-upside/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/03/05/union-flag-has-flying-outside-parliament-upside/)
I never would have thought there was the possibility of the Union Jack being upside down, but now I notice that the Saint Patrick's Cross isn't exactly centred within the Saint Andrew's cross so, yes, for someone with a very sharp eye (and/or lots of time in his or her hands) this could be an issue...
Quote from: Que on January 31, 2020, 11:16:35 AM
It is indeed really sad... and the writing on the wall, warning us of the dark times ahead.
But it is too early to tell whether Brexit itself will be a major disaster.
Perhaps Boris - out if necessity - will do a U-turn and will keep the UK closely aligned to the EU.
The risks for UK are substantial. Brexit has put its economy, geopolitical influence and even its territorial integrity on the line.
Let's hope Brexit has a soft landing.
After all, there is a lot that can happen in a year: a pandemic, a worldwide economic crisis (or both), a war in the Middle East, a climate crisis, you name it. All of which would make Brexit seem like a Sunday afternoon picnic.
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Sometimes I hate to be right.... ::)
Anyway, I'm putting my money on an extension of the transition period for now.
And the longer a final economic divorce with the EU is delayed and the harsher general economic circumstances become, the harder it becomes politically to push through a hard Brexit.
The grandstanding by Brexiteers has just it the wall of reality, not the usual brick one but one made of the granite of the Corona virus.
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Quote from: Que on March 18, 2020, 12:33:49 AM
Sometimes I hate to be right.... ::)
Anyway, I'm putting my money on an extension of the transition period for now.
And the longer a final economic divorce with the EU is delayed and the harsher general economic circumstances become, the harder it becomes politically to push through a hard Brexit.
The grandstanding by Brexiteers has just it the wall of reality, not the usual brick one but one made of the granite of the Corona virus.
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Extension or no extension, deal or no deal. It seems of little consequence now.
Quote from: Irons on March 18, 2020, 01:16:29 AM
Extension or no extension, deal or no deal. It seems of little consequence now.
I beg to disagree. The more precarious the situation, the more impact choices on Brexit will have.
If you mean that there are at this moment more
urgent matters at hand, off course....
But if anything, this crisis raises the stakes on Brexit.
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Quote from: Que on March 18, 2020, 04:05:06 AM
I beg to disagree. The more precarious the situation, the more impact choices on Brexit will have.
If you mean that there are at this moment more urgent matters at hand, off course....
But if anything, this crisis raises the stakes on Brexit.
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You could well be right, but with what the world is facing at present it seems, to me at least, an irrelevance. This health crises has killed discussion of Brexit stone dead in the UK and I would be very surprised if not the same outcome in the EU. When this is over, I firmly believe the world will be a different place, and Brexit will be a footnote in history books. Something will be worked out for sure but arguing, deadlines and all the other crap must surely be over. Time to move on.
Quote from: Irons on March 18, 2020, 07:38:28 AM
I firmly believe the world will be a different place, and Brexit will be a footnote in history books.
I absolutely agree. :)
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Fruit and veg 'will run out' unless Britain charters planes to fly in farm workers from eastern Europe
UK urgently needs 90,000 labourers to pick crops that will otherwise die in the fields, warns charity (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/28/fruit-and-veg-will-run-out-unless-britain-charters-planes-to-fly-in-farm-workers-from-eastern-europe)
Quote from: SimonNZ on March 28, 2020, 04:00:32 PM
Fruit and veg 'will run out' unless Britain charters planes to fly in farm workers from eastern Europe
UK urgently needs 90,000 labourers to pick crops that will otherwise die in the fields, warns charity (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/28/fruit-and-veg-will-run-out-unless-britain-charters-planes-to-fly-in-farm-workers-from-eastern-europe)
An odd article. I checked the date to see if is current. As if any country would arrange charter flights for foreign workers is beyond belief under the present world-wide lock down. The article goes on "
Some large farms have already been chartering planes to bring in labour from eastern Europe." I think they must be using Meghan and Harry's private jet after it transported the couple from Canada to LA!
Food and essentials are now readily available although shopping is slow due to social distancing. The major shortage I read this morning is seeds. Seed suppliers websites are collapsing due to heavy demand from the general public.