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Title: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Alina on September 25, 2020, 12:14:44 AM
Hi :) I've been looking for tone poems with either exotic or oriental themes, something similar in sound to Borodin's Dance of the Polovtsian Maidens and his tone poem, In the Steppes of Central Asia. I hope you'll share some of your recommendations with me. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: relm1 on September 25, 2020, 06:29:28 AM
Definitely Rachmaninoff's early tone poems like "The Rock" and "Prince Rostislav".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhba_tVHH6Y

Seek out the opera suites from Rimsky-Korsakov most of Liadov, or Mussorgsky's orchestral works.  There is a rich tradition of music of this style.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Symphonic Addict on September 25, 2020, 07:16:06 AM
Balakirev's Tamara, Lyapunov's Hashish, Glière's Shakh Senem come to my mind.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Biffo on September 25, 2020, 07:20:24 AM
There is that perennial favourite - Rimsky-Korsakov's Sheherazade
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: MusicTurner on September 25, 2020, 08:02:39 AM
Some good listening options, but widening the associations somewhat, are

- Nielsen, Aladdin Suite //  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylYzX3Mnbzg
- Hovhaness, And God Created Great Whales // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgESUPnCQ5o
- Respighi, Belkis Suite // chandos recording with Geoffrey Simon preferable
- Hovhaness, Symphony (no.9), St. Vartan // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQbOSq0Mdi0
- Villa-Lobos, Uirapuru // many recordings available
- Holmboe, Symphony 1 opus 4  // Hughes
- Arif Melikov, such as Fairy Tale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l637bbPf9us
- Armen Tigranian, Anush, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smgQoaD58Yg

In general, try exploring for example Hovhaness and Khachaturian.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Daverz on September 25, 2020, 08:04:15 AM
I'd suggest music by Fikret Amirov and Kara Karayev.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Jo498 on September 25, 2020, 08:10:30 AM
Try the Jungle book cycle by Charles Koechlin for something a bit  different.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: vandermolen on September 26, 2020, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: Daverz on September 25, 2020, 08:04:15 AM
I'd suggest music by Fikret Amirov and Kara Karayev.
+1
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Biffo on September 27, 2020, 01:42:39 AM
Quote from: Jo498 on September 25, 2020, 08:10:30 AM
Try the Jungle book cycle by Charles Koechlin for something a bit  different.

Les heures persanes from the same composer is well worth hearing. I prefer the piano original but there is also an orchestral version. Despite its title it was originally inspired by North Africa.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Christo on September 27, 2020, 07:52:43 AM
Some of the tone poems by Turkish composer Cemal Reşit Rey, e.g. the posthumously discovered 'Türkiye'.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: pjme on September 28, 2020, 03:31:53 AM
Exoticism in music...
Since you are only 18 years old, Alina, I hope you are willing to look a bit further than Borodin.

You may know some of these :

Ravel :Shéhérazade for soprano and orchestra + the early (1898) "Ouverture de féérie "Shéhérazade"
Debussy : Pagodes from "Estampes", orchestrations by André Caplet and Percy Grainger
Paul Dukas: La Péri
Henri Rabaud: Maroûf, savetier du Caire/ danses pour orchestre.
Albert Roussel: Evocations ( 3 Indian cities : with soloists and chorus in the last movement).

Further (and on Youtube):
Percy Grainger: ballet The warriors
many South American composers wrote exiting, exotic & exuberant music: Villa Lobos (already mentioned) - Choros nr. 10 for chorus and orchestra is a personal favorite, Alberto Ginastera's Estancia and Panambi,
Silvestre Revueltas Sensemayà and la Noche de los Mayas
Oscar Lorenzo Fernandez: "Reisado do Pastoreio " - the last movement, Batuque is a great dance.
Julian Orbon : Tres versiones symphonicas
Miguel Bernal Jimenez: tres cartas de mexico
Carlos Chavez: symphonia India
In 2004 CHANDOS issued a nice cd with (symphonic) argentinian music. Luis Gianneo, Astor piazzola, Carlos Guastavino and the short but beautiful poem Salmo al Parana by Oscar Giudice.
https://youtu.be/ZeSpvkztOMY
Italo-Brazilian Francisco Mignone: check out the BIS cd with Festa das igrejas, Sinfonia tropical and Maracatu de Chico rei

Leo Smit : Schemselnihar - ballet : https://youtu.be/ZYbuzJWrqMQ
Colin Mac Phee: Tabu Tabuhan : https://youtu.be/UnWHYnIuftU
André Jolivet: Suite Delphique
Yasuhide Ito: Gloriosa for large wind band https://youtu.be/HL0htrubtgc
Yuzo Toyama's 外山雄三 Rhapsody for orchestra: https://youtu.be/t0SGuzfywzw
Kiyoshige Koyama [小山清茂]: "Ubusuna" for Orchestra (1985): https://youtu.be/kYeSdMXrSTk

.....etc;




Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: vandermolen on September 29, 2020, 04:50:44 AM
Although a ballet rather than a tone poem this might fit the bill:
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Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: brunumb on September 30, 2020, 01:31:39 AM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/May06/ranjbaran_DE3336.jpg)

Behzad RANJBARAN (b. 1955)
The Persian Trilogy (1991-2000)
1. Seven Passages (2000) [13:39]
2. Seemorgh (1991) [22:07]
(The Mountain; The Moonlight; The Sunrise)
3. The Blood of Seyavash (1994) [42:28]
(The Young Prince and Heir; Seduction by Betrayal; Trial by Fire; Tormented Loyalties; Seeds of Envy; Idyllic Love; Prophecy Fulfilled)
London Symphony Orchestra/JoAnn Falletta


Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: vandermolen on September 30, 2020, 01:40:37 AM
Quote from: brunumb on September 30, 2020, 01:31:39 AM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/May06/ranjbaran_DE3336.jpg)

Behzad RANJBARAN (b. 1955)
The Persian Trilogy (1991-2000)
1. Seven Passages (2000) [13:39]
2. Seemorgh (1991) [22:07]
(The Mountain; The Moonlight; The Sunrise)
3. The Blood of Seyavash (1994) [42:28]
(The Young Prince and Heir; Seduction by Betrayal; Trial by Fire; Tormented Loyalties; Seeds of Envy; Idyllic Love; Prophecy Fulfilled)
London Symphony Orchestra/JoAnn Falletta
Looks like an interesting release.

PS it's fun. I discovered a clip on You Tube - a bit 'Star Wars' in places but v enjoyable. CD on my wish list  ::)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3lPTBgOyUc4
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: brunumb on September 30, 2020, 05:50:07 AM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2012/Oct12/Gliere_ALC2019.jpg)

Reinhold GLIÈRE (1875-1956)
Symphony No. 3 in B minor Ilya Muromets Op. 42 (1911) [93:02]

Royal Philharmonic Orchestra/Harold Farberman

Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: relm1 on September 30, 2020, 06:16:39 AM
Quote from: brunumb on September 30, 2020, 01:31:39 AM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/May06/ranjbaran_DE3336.jpg)

Behzad RANJBARAN (b. 1955)
The Persian Trilogy (1991-2000)
1. Seven Passages (2000) [13:39]
2. Seemorgh (1991) [22:07]
(The Mountain; The Moonlight; The Sunrise)
3. The Blood of Seyavash (1994) [42:28]
(The Young Prince and Heir; Seduction by Betrayal; Trial by Fire; Tormented Loyalties; Seeds of Envy; Idyllic Love; Prophecy Fulfilled)
London Symphony Orchestra/JoAnn Falletta

Excellent disc in excellent performances perfectly captured.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: vandermolen on September 30, 2020, 06:40:39 AM
Quote from: brunumb on September 30, 2020, 05:50:07 AM
(http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2012/Oct12/Gliere_ALC2019.jpg)

Reinhold GLIÈRE (1875-1956)
Symphony No. 3 in B minor Ilya Muromets Op. 42 (1911) [93:02]

Royal Philharmonic Orchestra/Harold Farberman
Excellent choice!

I hope that Alina gets to see the recommendations.
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: relm1 on September 30, 2020, 04:20:23 PM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 30, 2020, 06:40:39 AM
Excellent choice!

I hope that Alina gets to see the recommendations.

LOL!  Yikes I just realized it was this posters first and only post.  Hope we didn't overwhelm.  ???
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Cato on September 30, 2020, 05:54:16 PM
Charles Ives: The Fourth of July!  Exotica Americana!    $:)

https://www.youtube.com/v/YTCF52GQSnA



Alexander Tcherepnin: Symphony #3, "Chinese"


https://www.youtube.com/v/mcwOcuo7oFg



Julian Carrillo: Preludio Cristobal Colon (Christopher Columbus Prelude)


https://www.youtube.com/v/vQRtYEb4tqQ



Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: vandermolen on September 30, 2020, 10:15:49 PM
Quote from: relm1 on September 30, 2020, 04:20:23 PM
LOL!  Yikes I just realized it was this posters first and only post.  Hope we didn't overwhelm.  ???

+1  :)

At least I got to discover Ranjbaran thanks to this thread!
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: André on October 01, 2020, 09:40:46 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on September 30, 2020, 10:15:49 PM
+1  :)

At least I got to discover Ranjbaran thanks to this thread!

+1. It's on my wish list, one click away from the actual cart  ;D
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Cato on October 02, 2020, 12:26:23 PM
Quote from: André on October 01, 2020, 09:40:46 AM
+1. It's on my wish list, one click away from the actual cart  ;D


MUST...CONTROL....FINGER!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: André on October 02, 2020, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: Cato on October 02, 2020, 12:26:23 PM

MUST...CONTROL....FINGER!!!   ;)

Too late... ::)
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Cato on October 06, 2020, 02:32:01 AM
Quote from: André on October 02, 2020, 06:07:58 PM
Too late... ::)

0:)  Ah well, you gave it your best shot, Andre'!  0:)
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: vandermolen on October 06, 2020, 06:02:29 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 06, 2020, 02:32:01 AM
0:)  Ah well, you gave it your best shot, Andre'!  0:)

HAHAHA  :)
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Roy Bland on October 19, 2020, 07:35:27 AM
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Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Peter Power Pop on October 19, 2020, 03:01:22 PM
I can recommend Holst's Beni Mora:

https://www.youtube.com/v/VA5CImEv7UI
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: relm1 on October 19, 2020, 04:30:13 PM
Maybe my tone poem with exotic sound qualifies.  Here is an excerpt.
https://clyp.it/soyefiqs
Title: Re: Tone Poem Recommendations, with Exotic Sound
Post by: Scion7 on October 19, 2020, 06:03:09 PM
Mongolian composer Luvsanjambyn Mördorj (1919–1996) piece My Motherland might be added to your list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQjCxC3La2s