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I compiled a list of violin concerti on YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGAaacGYZDr2u4FitRcmmpnyEUnyCmqa3

Now it's your time to vote!

Where is Skalkottas? 👮‍♂️

Crikey - I am very impressed but there's no way I'm listening to that lot! ???

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 14, 2021, 07:16:17 AM
In the dustbin, where it belongs. :)

You're wrong.

Pettersson's big 2nd should be there too, definitely in Top10 for me and others.
Some notable absentees include Bloch, Martinu, Rosenberg, Taktakishvili, Rawsthorne, Martin, Valen, Rochberg, etc.

Quote from: MusicTurner on June 14, 2021, 07:33:11 AM
You're wrong.

Pettersson's big 2nd should be there too, definitely in Top10 for me and others.
Some notable absenteers include Bloch, Martinu, Rosenberg, Taktakshvili, Rawsthorne, Martin, Valen, Rochberg, etc.

Most certainly.

Quote from: Uhor on June 14, 2021, 07:07:39 AM
I compiled a list of violin concerti on YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGAaacGYZDr2u4FitRcmmpnyEUnyCmqa3

Now it's your time to vote!

Missing Tommie Haglund's "Hymns of the Night" - one of the great 21st Century concertos for sure.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-M_fNt6d0

Quote from: MusicTurner on June 14, 2021, 07:33:11 AM
You're wrong.

Pettersson's big 2nd should be there too, definitely in Top10 for me and others.
Some notable absentees include Bloch, Martinu, Rosenberg, Taktakishvili, Rawsthorne, Martin, Valen, Rochberg, etc.

Not wrong --- just someone with an opinion that doesn't match your own. I agree about Martinů's VCs and the Martin and Bloch VCs are exceptionally fine works.

My favorite violin concertos of any era would probably be:

1. Sibelius
2. Barber
3. Shostakovich 1
4. Tchaikovsky
5. starts getting blurry or hard to rank after that

Vasks is another name for the "other/write-in" pile here. Before voting I'm going to relisten to the Salonen, which I remember thinking was awesome.

Tentatively (before voting), my favorite concerti from this era would include the three listed above plus Prokofiev 2, Salonen, Khachaturian, Leshnoff 2, Stravinsky, Korngold, Walton, Rautavaara, Vasks, Glass, Martinu 2, Martinu two violins, and Sebastian Fagerlund.

I am just going to listen to the Scelsi and not mention Glass at all.

Quote from: Wanderer on June 14, 2021, 07:10:39 AM
Where is Skalkottas? 👮‍♂️

Or:

https://www.youtube.com/v/jm5fXW_DAaE

Quote from: steve ridgway on June 14, 2021, 09:04:37 AM
I am just going to listen to the Scelsi and not mention Glass at all.

:P

It reminds me of this fun little meme I created:

(https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=304.0;attach=71109;image)

I once had the pleasure of seeing a live performance of the very short David Ives play, "Philip Glass Buys a Loaf of Bread." Worth looking up if you don't know it.

Quote from: Brian on June 14, 2021, 09:21:50 AM
I once had the pleasure of seeing a live performance of the very short David Ives play, "Philip Glass Buys a Loaf of Bread." Worth looking up if you don't know it.

I wish I hadn't now. :'(

Quote from: Wanderer on June 14, 2021, 07:10:39 AM
Where is Skalkottas? 👮‍♂️

Probably not the piece you mean, Tasos, but I found this, and like it (although the violin is softer than the piano here):
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZafNHk4yILg

Quote from: steve ridgway on June 14, 2021, 09:29:17 AM
I wish I hadn't now. :'(

;D you're welcome!

Quote from: Brian on June 14, 2021, 09:53:58 AM
;D you're welcome!

Somehow I missed this evil streak in you ere now, Brian 8)

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 14, 2021, 10:54:35 AM
Somehow I missed this evil streak in you ere now, Brian 8)

8) Got a troublemaking feeling in the soul lately.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 14, 2021, 09:09:07 AM
Or:

https://www.youtube.com/v/jm5fXW_DAaE

Another favourite. 😎

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 14, 2021, 09:34:35 AM
Probably not the piece you mean, Tasos, but I found this, and like it (although the violin is softer than the piano here):
https://www.youtube.com/v/ZafNHk4yILg

Oh, that's very fine, as well. 😎
Here's the Skalkottas Violin Concerto:

Violin Concerto, I. Molto appassionato (https://youtu.be/ISdLTuZEEeQ)
Violin Concerto, II. Andante con spirito (https://youtu.be/pAwZI0bg0AE)
Violin Concerto, III. Allegro vivo vivacissimo - Prestissimo (https://youtu.be/5mP2qe_MwB0)

...and a personal favourite, the exquisite Concerto for 2 Violins:

Concerto for 2 Violins, I. Allegro giocoso (https://youtu.be/QpI5ASYYjuI)
Concerto for 2 Violins, II. Variations sur un thème grec Rembetiko (https://youtu.be/Io9X2eYjs7M)
Concerto for 2 Violins, III. Finale and Rondo (https://youtu.be/RLkVn3_5ObI)

Looking at the list from the OP again and it's actually missing A LOT of great concerti from the 20th Century. I don't know much about 21st Century composers and I personally don't have the energy nor interest to actually delve into new music --- I'm very much a 19th and 20th listener Century through and through.

Quote from: Wanderer on June 14, 2021, 11:18:11 AM
Another favourite. 😎

Oh, that's very fine, as well. 😎
Here's the Skalkottas Violin Concerto:

Violin Concerto, I. Molto appassionato (https://youtu.be/ISdLTuZEEeQ)
Violin Concerto, II. Andante con spirito (https://youtu.be/pAwZI0bg0AE)
Violin Concerto, III. Allegro vivo vivacissimo - Prestissimo (https://youtu.be/5mP2qe_MwB0)

...and a personal favourite, the exquisite Concerto for 2 Violins:

Concerto for 2 Violins, I. Allegro giocoso (https://youtu.be/QpI5ASYYjuI)
Concerto for 2 Violins, II. Variations sur un thème grec Rembetiko (https://youtu.be/Io9X2eYjs7M)
Concerto for 2 Violins, III. Finale and Rondo (https://youtu.be/RLkVn3_5ObI)

Ευχαριστώ

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 14, 2021, 11:38:43 AM
Ευχαριστώ

Παρακαλώ!

This list makes me realize how much more I need to listen to! 

Anyways, my selections:
1) Siblelius
2) Elgar
3) Shostakovich
4) Berg
5) Gubaidulina
(Write in: Vasks)

Did Lutoslawski and Ravel write violin concertos? They wrote concertante works for the instrument, but they're not proper VCs at all.

Anyway, my list includes:

Szymanowski 2
Sibelius
Shostakovich 1
Stravinsky
Britten
Respighi Concerto gregoriano
Bartók 2
Castelnuovo-Tedesco 2
Khachaturian
Tubin 1
Pettersson 2
Penderecki 1
Peterson-Berger

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on June 14, 2021, 04:49:59 PM
Did Lutoslawski and Ravel write violin concertos? They wrote concertante works for the instrument, but they're not proper VCs at all.

Anyway, my list includes:

Szymanowski 2
Sibelius
Shostakovich 1
Stravinsky
Britten
Respighi Concerto gregoriano
Bartók 2
Castelnuovo-Tedesco 2
Khachaturian
Tubin 1
Pettersson 2
Penderecki 1
Peterson-Berger

I wondered about their inclusion as well. These works for violin and orchestra from Lutoslawski and Ravel are most definitely not violin concertos. Oh and I whole-heartedly agree with you about the Respighi. What an incredible piece --- so gorgeous and uplifting.

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 14, 2021, 05:16:02 PM
I wondered about their inclusion as well. These works for violin and orchestra from Lutoslawski and Ravel are most definitely not violin concertos. Oh and I whole-heartedly agree with you about the Respighi. What an incredible piece --- so gorgeous and upliftinng.

+1, the same goes for Poema autunnale. Unbearingly beautiful.

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on June 14, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
+1, the same goes for Poema autunnale. Unbearingly beautiful.

Ah yes, that is quite a nice piece as well. In fact, Poema autumnale has a kind of The Lark Ascending atmosphere to it in the beginning.

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 14, 2021, 06:12:23 PM
Ah yes, that is quite a nice piece as well. In fact, Poema autumnale has a kind of The Lark Ascending atmosphere to it in the beginning.

Yeah, I've always felt that both works share a similar nostalgic pastoral soundworld.

Thank you for your mentions! I've added most of them to the YouTube playlist.

Quote from: MusicTurner on June 14, 2021, 07:33:11 AM
You're wrong.

Pettersson's big 2nd should be there too, definitely in Top10 for me and others.
Some notable absentees include Bloch, Martinu, Rosenberg, Taktakishvili, Rawsthorne, Martin, Valen, Rochberg, etc.

Absolutely (re: Pettersson and Bloch) and Williamson as well.
+ Concerto Gregoriano by Respighi, No.2 'Prophets' by Castelnuovo-Tedesco, Peterson-Berger, Khachaturian, Glazunov.

Added all the suggestions to the poll so now you can alter your votes.

Quote from: Uhor on June 15, 2021, 02:29:40 PM
Added all the suggestions to the poll so now you can alter your votes.

I can't alter my votes because I've already voted. The only way to do re-do the voting would be to wipe the board clean.

Done

Quote from: Uhor on June 15, 2021, 02:40:59 PM
Done

8)

Quote from: Uhor on June 15, 2021, 02:40:59 PM
Done

Good, thank you.
Unfortunately I was too quick for votes to Rochberg and Martin to be carried through.

A strong recommendation from me for Malcolm Williamson's Violin Concerto, which has a particularly poignant last movement.

I should have mentioned the very fine one by David Morgan (not included on list). CD recordings (EMI/Lyrita) exist of both concertos:
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Actually I didn't expect Nielsen to do so comparatively well. Nice. My own appreciation of that concerto came quite late, partly depending on hearing several recordings.

Quote from: MusicTurner on June 19, 2021, 12:01:59 AM
Actually I didn't expect Nielsen to do so comparatively well. Nice. My own appreciation of that concerto came quite late, partly depending on hearing several recordings.

Aye, a mighty fine piece!

Missing and important:

Bacewicz (I tend to prefer the earlier concertos, so I'd include No. 1)
KA Hartman: Concerto funebre
Bernstein: Serenade

A few more, of perhaps less importance in the repertoire:

Alwyn (a very beautiful concerto)
The 2 Piston concertos
Benjamin Lees
Fricker (coupled with the previously mentioned Dan Morgan concerto on a Lyrita CD).  One of Fricker's more appealing works.

I'm sure there are more that I've forgotten.

I chose the traditional top 5  :)

Sibelius, Berg, Elgar, Pettersson and Carter.

Bloch and Tischchenko 2 wait in the antechamber.

Quote from: MusicTurner on June 19, 2021, 12:01:59 AM
Actually I didn't expect Nielsen to do so comparatively well. Nice. My own appreciation of that concerto came quite late, partly depending on hearing several recordings.

When I first listened to the Nielsen VC, I thought it was too "light" and lacking in substance compared to his symphonies. But, recently, my affection for music on the "lighter" side of the spectrum has increased, and now I love the work! It's so quirky and full of energy and good humor. Vilde Frang's recording is particularly fantastic.

Quote from: Daverz on June 19, 2021, 04:28:15 PM
Missing and important:

Bacewicz (I tend to prefer the earlier concertos, so I'd include No. 1)
KA Hartman: Concerto funebre
Bernstein: Serenade

A few more, of perhaps less importance in the repertoire:

Alwyn (a very beautiful concerto)
The 2 Piston concertos
Benjamin Lees
Fricker (coupled with the previously mentioned Dan Morgan concerto on a Lyrita CD).  One of Fricker's more appealing works.

I'm sure there are more that I've forgotten.

A big thumbs up for the K. A. Hartmann, Bacewicz and Bernstein! Fabulous works.

Yes, the Hartmann and Bernstein were nec. additions.

Quote from: Mirror Image on June 14, 2021, 09:10:43 AM
:P

It reminds me of this fun little meme I created:

(https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=304.0;attach=71109;image)

Many years ago, when BBC Radio 3 used to have a Christmas quiz, contestants one year were asked to compose a limerick whose first line was "There was a composer named X".  David Owen Norris's contribution was:

There was a composer named Glass,
There was a composer named Glass,
There was a composer,
There was a composer,
There was a composer named Glass.

And shouldn't we have Davies and Janáček on the list?  Max definitely wrote a violin concerto and Janáček sort-of might have done.