There's no way temperatures are this high. It's time for an audit. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/30/record-temperatures-heat-wave-require-audit/)
This so-called "heat dome" seems extremely suspect and is driving temperatures up artificially, when they should be in the balmy 70s or, at most, the sweltering 90s. These thermometer readings are clearly skewed in some way, no doubt because of the indoctrination of our children in schools where they are taught that human actions can impact the planet's climate. Altering the temperatures is just a quick fix; to truly help future generations put this problem out of mind, we must change what children are taught about heat and the planet.
Quote from: drogulus on June 30, 2021, 02:57:21 PM
There's no way temperatures are this high. It's time for an audit. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/30/record-temperatures-heat-wave-require-audit/)
This so-called "heat dome" seems extremely suspect and is driving temperatures up artificially, when they should be in the balmy 70s or, at most, the sweltering 90s. These thermometer readings are clearly skewed in some way, no doubt because of the indoctrination of our children in schools where they are taught that human actions can impact the planet's climate. Altering the temperatures is just a quick fix; to truly help future generations put this problem out of mind, we must change what children are taught about heat and the planet.
?????
Are we now suggesting thermometers are rigged upwards?
Well, in any case BC Canada just broke a Canadian record two days ago, at 46.6C.
In any event, anything above 30C is unbearable for me. I'd rather have - 30C. :D
We need bipartisan thermometers.
Quote from: OrchestralNut on June 30, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
?????
Are we now suggesting thermometers are rigged upwards?
I'm just asking questions.
Quote from: drogulus on June 30, 2021, 03:42:39 PM
We need bipartisan thermometers.
I'm just asking questions.
LOL you need to switch to French degrees like we did, now it's not so obvious what the real temperature is. ::)
Sticking to a basement cellar with a fan, plenty of food/drinks and a computer is probably the only good environment to maintain a conspiracy theory in this case ... unless you're residing somewhere very far away from the alleged 'hot spot', of course.
Erwin Schulhoff - Hot Sonata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEINXjjcsNw
Quote from: OrchestralNut on June 30, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
?????
Are we now suggesting thermometers are rigged upwards?
Well, in any case BC Canada just broke a Canadian record two days ago, at 46.6C.
In any event, anything above 30C is unbearable for me. I'd rather have - 30C. :D
Me too re: 30C - I hate hot weather and prefer Winter to Summer.
By the way, Happy Canada Day to you and fellow Canadian GMG members. As I have a new Canadian son-in-law I am very clued up on these issues now!
:)
Quote from: OrchestralNut on June 30, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
Are we now suggesting thermometers are rigged upwards?
I don't know about "we", but the author of the article is dripping with irony.
I was listening to a podcast on Rachel Carson today and they were talking about the book she was working on about rising temperatures when she died - in the early sixties - and what action might have been taken if she'd finished it and it had been published.
20C or lower sounds good to me! I can handle it a bit warmer if the humidity is low, but I hate hot and sticky! I wilt in it. Temps are a bit cooler today after a storm moved through yesterday; the humidity, however, is still up there so the a/c is on. Speaking of which, are either portable or window a/cs getting to be more popular in the UK with the increasingly hot summers that you've been experiencing? What about in Canada?
Can't believe the temps that I've been hearing about in the Pacific NW--well, yes, I can (as in I don't believe that I am being lied to), but in another sense, it's so friggin' crazy and unheard of there! :o
PD
p.s. And I'd love to be at Wimbledon right now eating strawberries and cream and enjoying the cool weather! Oh, yes, and watching tennis. 8)
Quote from: vandermolen on June 30, 2021, 10:48:22 PM
Me too re: 30C - I hate hot weather and prefer Winter to Summer.
By the way, Happy Canada Day to you and fellow Canadian GMG members. As I have a new Canadian son-in-law I am very clued up on these issues now!
:)
Thank you, Jeffrey! Very thoughtful and kind of you. :)
Quote from: SimonNZ on July 01, 2021, 01:51:23 AM
I was listening to a podcast on Rachel Carson today and they were talking about the book she was working on about rising temperatures when she died - in the early sixties - and what action might have been taken if she'd finished it and it had been published.
Sounds like an interesting podcast! Can you provide a link to it?
Quote from: OrchestralNut on July 01, 2021, 03:11:06 AM
Thank you, Jeffrey! Very thoughtful and kind of you. :)
And Happy Canada Day to you O.N.! Any special celebrations at your end? Sunday is our big celebration. :)
PD
Quote from: SimonNZ on July 01, 2021, 01:51:23 AM
I was listening to a podcast on Rachel Carson today and they were talking about the book she was working on about rising temperatures when she died - in the early sixties - and what action might have been taken if she'd finished it and it had been published.
Unfortunate that it never made it to print. Silent Spring had a huge impact.
The Rachel Carson Wildlife Refuge in Maine is a place I frequently visit. It's a beautiful place to cool off!
Quote from: Szykneij on July 01, 2021, 03:30:46 AM
Unfortunate that it never made it to print. Silent Spring had a huge impact.
The Rachel Carson Wildlife Refuge in Maine is a place I frequently visit. It's a beautiful place to cool off!
Nice and nice tribute to her!
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 01, 2021, 03:14:02 AM
Sounds like an interesting podcast! Can you provide a link to it?
I've been catching up with last year's season of historian Jill Lepore's The Last Archive.
Here is the episode on Rachel Carson:
For The Birds (https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5tZWdhcGhvbmUuZm0vbGFzdGFyY2hpdmU/episode/ZjE2ZTBlMzItOTQ2Yi0xMWVhLWE1MjctMWY1Mzk4YTUwYmM3?sa=X&ved=0CAUQkfYCahcKEwiIp52DysLxAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBQ)
Quote from: vandermolen on June 30, 2021, 10:48:22 PM
Me too re: 30C - I hate hot weather and prefer Winter to Summer.
By the way, Happy Canada Day to you and fellow Canadian GMG members. As I have a new Canadian son-in-law I am very clued up on these issues now!
:)
Thank you Jeffrey !
Your latest clue on the matter should be that this year dozens of cities have cancelled celebrations, all canadian government flags are at half-mast and nobody is in any mood to celebrate... :-X
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-day-political-reaction-1.6087370 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-day-political-reaction-1.6087370)
But we'll gladly take hugs all the same :)
Gosh!
Hugs all 'round!
As of July 2 pm, 719 deaths have been attributed to the heat wave in British Columbia. 🥵
We seem to have escaped dangerously high temperatures here in inland San Diego so far, but our summers are muggier than they used to be. I could only take about 15 minutes or so of 80F in the sun with a 60F dew point.
https://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-humidity-on-the-rise-in-recent-years#:~:text=San%20Diego%20is%20more%20humid,and%20anomalous%20high%20moisture%20values.&text=Relative%20humidity%20is%20the%20difference,NWS%20expert%20Alex%20Tardy%20explains.
Still nowhere near as bad as I remember the oven-like North Carolina summer humidity, though.
For the first time I'm feeling a real sense of dread about what the next few years could be like. I thought we had more time.
Quote from: André on July 01, 2021, 11:31:43 AM
Thank you Jeffrey !
Your latest clue on the matter should be that this year dozens of cities have cancelled celebrations, all canadian government flags are at half-mast and nobody is in any mood to celebrate... :-X
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-day-political-reaction-1.6087370 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-day-political-reaction-1.6087370)
But we'll gladly take hugs all the same :)
Yes indeed André - I've been following those dispiriting stories on the news, including the pulling down of statues of Queen Victoria and QE2 in protest.
Quote from: André on July 02, 2021, 04:55:41 PM
As of July 2 pm, 719 deaths have been attributed to the heat wave in British Columbia. 🥵
Oh my word! When did the heat wave officially start? Any idea when they think that it will end?
We've had a big cool down with lots of rain lately. The cooler temps are nice, but need sunshine again for my plants--particularly the veggies.
PD
It's a heat dome that's also affected NW USA states, Oregon and Washington in particular. BC is just north of there. The dome is slowly moving east.
Quote from: drogulus on July 02, 2021, 07:04:45 PM
For the first time I'm feeling a real sense of dread about what the next few years could be like. I thought we had more time.
Soylent Green was a documentary!
I went to a political sight with a lot of right wing loons I watch to see how they were spinning this, expecting "just a blip" or still nothing definitive".
I shouldn't have caught off guard but somehow was when I read that god is punishing west coast liberal elites for their irreligious ways.
Quote from: André on July 03, 2021, 05:18:52 PM
It's a heat dome that's also affected NW USA states, Oregon and Washington in particular. BC is just north of there. The dome is slowly moving east.
Yes, thanks André. I did know where *BC is and about the US states being effected. ;) Just haven't kept up with certain areas of the news as much as I probably should have lately. Think that it's been going on for something like a week? 10 days? In terms of over 100...? I have been hearing from acquaintances and on the radio about drought conditions in a number of areas. And, recently, a story on NPR about worsening conditions re the Colorado River and how that is/will be effecting various states.
*One of your provinces in particular that I'd really love to visit someday...the Fates allowing it. :)
Best wishes,
PD
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2021, 05:29:11 PM
Soylent Green was a documentary!
Soylent Green was people! :)
(one of the best uses of classical music in a film's plotline)
Just ran across this shocking article: "Extreme heat cooked mussels, clams and other shellfish alive on beaches in Western Canada"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/10/weather/heat-sea-life-deaths-trnd-scn/index.html
PD
Quote from: SimonNZ on July 03, 2021, 06:30:15 PM
I went to a political sight with a lot of right wing loons I watch to see how they were spinning this, expecting "just a blip" or still nothing definitive".
I shouldn't have caught off guard but somehow was when I read that god is punishing west coast liberal elites for their irreligious ways.
Every bit as frightening as the heat and drought: the amazing stupidity of Trumpers and the Christian Right.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 11, 2021, 08:28:37 AM
Just ran across this shocking article: "Extreme heat cooked mussels, clams and other shellfish alive on beaches in Western Canada"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/10/weather/heat-sea-life-deaths-trnd-scn/index.html
PD
That is shocking, sadly the human species has overwhelmed the world. :(