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Title: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mirror Image on October 01, 2021, 07:58:00 PM
I'll refrain from answering right now as I'd like to read some other people's responses. Please give us your honest opinion: do you have any regrets during your time on GMG? This could be concerning another member, a missed opportunity to buy a recording that slipped through the cracks, etc.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Brian on October 01, 2021, 08:01:38 PM
There are some recordings I regret not buying before they went out of print, but no regrets about my time at GMG that I can recall. Maybe regret at not getting to meet a couple of Euro-based members while I lived in England, but we had good practical reasons for not being able to meet up, so it's more like wistfulness than genuine regret.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 03:09:40 AM
I often think about if being here is a blessing or a curse. Being here is so different from what I thought* it would be. After coming to this forum I was totally amazed by how much people know. It shattered my self-confidence and I think I am still struggling with it. Now I am trying to learn to live my life knowing I will never be an expert of anything, because I am smart enough to be an expert. I will never be good enough for anything. I can be good, but not good enough. Admitting these horrible truths to myself are making things easier for me.

Recently I have been pleased to see Karl Henning friendly towards me.  0:)

As for regreting not buying something I don't know... ...for some time now I have felt my classical music collection is large enough. I feel I don't have enough time to listen to it properly. If I am missing something so be it!

It is pros and cons.  :P


* Now, years and years later after getting into personality types and knowing my cognitive functions better I understand better why: Since I am strongly intuitive person, my mind generates vivid predictions of how things will turn out and because of lack of better information my mind handles these predictions as reliable information! That's why it is a shock for me when things turn out very different from what my intuitive mind predicts. Non-intuitive sensing-type of people rely on information from outside as it is and don't have as specific predictions. For me it is this bad: If I go to a dentist for the first time, my mind generates intuitive predictions of what the waiting room will look like, how much other people will be there, what kind of smells will be there, how much reverberation, how bright lighting, etc. When these things turn out to be different, I feel cheated and confused. I believe for autistic people this is 1000 times worse, but I feel these things.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mandryka on October 02, 2021, 04:50:14 AM
My biggest regret on GMG was the demise of snyprrr
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: steve ridgway on October 02, 2021, 05:16:58 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 03:09:40 AM
Now I am trying to learn to live my life knowing I will never be an expert of anything, because I am smart enough to be an expert.

On the other hand, not specialising to that degree leaves more capacity to appreciate the larger picture. I feel happier understanding the general story of the universe, planets, life, geology, geography, history, art, music etc. than knowing every minute detail of one particular subject.

Very interesting about your intuitive mind by the way, I didn't realise you had such strong expectations of how things would be.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: steve ridgway on October 02, 2021, 05:18:22 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on October 02, 2021, 04:50:14 AM
My biggest regret on GMG was the demise of snyprrr

Oh yes, he was great fun. ;D
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: steve ridgway on October 02, 2021, 05:20:44 AM
I don't think I really regret anything myself, I've learned a lot on here and discovered far more enjoyable music than I expected when I joined. :)
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 06:36:11 AM
Quote from: steve ridgway on October 02, 2021, 05:16:58 AM
On the other hand, not specialising to that degree leaves more capacity to appreciate the larger picture. I feel happier understanding the general story of the universe, planets, life, geology, geography, history, art, music etc. than knowing every minute detail of one particular subject.

Well, the shock for me has been that specializing to something doesn't quarantee becoming an expert. It requires other stuff too: Luck, extremely high intelligence, certain preference of cognitive functions, attractive appearance (handsome and beautiful people are regarded as experts easier than ugly people) etc. Had I known this decades ago, I wouldn't have wasted my life trying to become an expert. I have an university degree, but I have never enjoyed the pay of a person with a degree. Education gives a good well paying job? My ass it does! I was lied to!

Quote from: steve ridgway on October 02, 2021, 05:16:58 AMVery interesting about your intuitive mind by the way, I didn't realise you had such strong expectations of how things would be.

Well, for me this is natural and normal. I though all people are like this, but now I have learned this is not the case. People are different in fundamental ways and this explains a lot for me. I finally understand why other people are so different. Their cognitive functions work differently. The sad thing for me is that this is the World of extroverts even in introverted cultures such as Finland. I am as introverted as they come. I have a lot of INTP personality type in me and for this personality type not advanging in work life to well paying positions is typical. I am best off living inside my own mind where I have a very rich inner World. Extroverted people typically do not have a rich inner World, instead their rich life happens in "reality" with other people. This explains why I don't care about traveling. Why bother traveling to Barcelona, when I can just go into my inner mind and experience equally interesting things! Most people can't do that, at least naturally, so they need to travel to Barcelona! I am nowadays aware of how my connection to the "outer World" is cumbersome (somewhat autistic) compared to most people. This explains so well my experiencies in life. If I just had know these things decades ago instead of being confused about what is wrong!
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 06:41:34 AM
Quote from: steve ridgway on October 02, 2021, 05:20:44 AM
I don't think I really regret anything myself, I've learned a lot on here and discovered far more enjoyable music than I expected when I joined. :)

My taste is such that I rarely discover music due to recommendation from other people, but Haydn's Op. 20 thanks to GMG was a great discovery after struggling so much with Opp. 64 and 76.  :P
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: amw on October 02, 2021, 08:37:29 AM
I probably should regret signing up here, but I don't. I do regret giving away too much personal information. I do also regret the process of building a music library, although joining this site was just a symptom of that desire, and the resulting effect of me no longer having any desire to write music because everything interesting has already been written and I can listen to it anytime. That may, however, have just been an inevitable consequence of ageing.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2021, 09:05:24 AM
My biggest regret has been being nasty or just downright boorish to those whose opinions I have come to hold in high esteem, but most of all respect: Karl, Poju, Spotted Horses (aka Scarpia), Kyle, Madiel, Wanderer and the list goes on and on. For this, I'm truly sorry, but the sad reality of all of this is I'm not quite like this in real life, it's just that my writing style can be abrasive and off-putting, but, again, I apologize to all who I have wronged or mistreated. I wish to be more positive and less negative, but when the world is beating you down day after day, it can be difficult to be this way. I'm thankful for every friendship I've formed here even if we don't talk as much as we used to for whatever the reason. All my best to everyone here.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Karl Henning on October 02, 2021, 09:29:22 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on October 02, 2021, 09:05:24 AM
My biggest regret has been being nasty or just downright boorish to those whose opinions I have come to hold in high esteem, but most of all respect: Karl, Poju, Spotted Horses (aka Scarpia), Kyle, Madiel, Wanderer and the list goes on and on. For this, I'm truly sorry, but the sad reality of all of this is I'm not quite like this in real life, it's just that my writing style can be abrasive and off-putting, but, again, I apologize to all who I have wronged or mistreated. I wish to be more positive and less negative, but when the world is beating you down day after day, it can be difficult to be this way. I'm thankful for every friendship I've formed here even if we don't talk as much as we used to for whatever the reason. All my best to everyone here.

We all make mistakes, we don't always learn from them.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Florestan on October 02, 2021, 09:31:39 AM
My biggest regret is not having been able to stick to music and arts only and having involved myself in lots of pointless and toxic political polemics and quarrels. Politics is the bane of mankind and I should have known better. Sigh...
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2021, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 02, 2021, 09:29:22 AM
We all make mistakes, we don't always learn from them.

This is true, indeed. :)
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 10:25:33 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on October 02, 2021, 09:05:24 AM
My biggest regret has been being nasty or just downright boorish to those whose opinions I have come to hold in high esteem, but most of all respect: Karl, Poju, Spotted Horses (aka Scarpia), Kyle, Madiel, Wanderer and the list goes on and on. For this, I'm truly sorry,...

Well, thanks! Appreciated. ;)

Quote from: Florestan on October 02, 2021, 09:31:39 AM
My biggest regret is not having been able to stick to music and arts only and having involved myself in lots of pointless and toxic political polemics and quarrels. Politics is the bane of mankind and I should have known better. Sigh...

I blame Trump's victory in 2016 for my interest in the US politics. I just needed to understand how a reality tv buffoon can become the president. I got sucked into all the madness known as the US politics.  ;D Sure, my knowledge and understanding of the US society increased a lot and Trump's victory became clear for me, but all of this came with a big price tag: Wasting my time on pondering the problems thousands of miles away on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean and getting into feuds on internet discussion boards.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mirror Image on October 02, 2021, 10:48:15 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 10:25:33 AM
Well, thanks! Appreciated. ;)

You're most welcome, Poju. :)
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on October 02, 2021, 01:25:47 PM
Quote from: amw on October 02, 2021, 08:37:29 AM
I probably should regret signing up here, but I don't. I do regret giving away too much personal information. I do also regret the process of building a music library, although joining this site was just a symptom of that desire, and the resulting effect of me no longer having any desire to write music because everything interesting has already been written and I can listen to it anytime. That may, however, have just been an inevitable consequence of ageing.
I greatly appreciate you sharing your music with us.  I was truly impressed by one of your works in particular (as I posted elsewhere); have only listened to a couple of your uploads (that's my issue not yours).  Please don't give up composing!  Yes, it's wonderful to listen to other people's music, but that certainly does NOT mean that you don't have something to create of your own that's of value and could also be something truly special and could touch/inspire folks.  If nothing else, do it just for you.  Trust your own voice/intuitions and experiences, strengths, etc.  Yes, you DO have something to offer...believe in that.

And I truly thank you for contributing here.

All the best,

PD
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Brahmsian on October 02, 2021, 02:01:03 PM
Quote from: Mandryka on October 02, 2021, 04:50:14 AM
My biggest regret on GMG was the demise of snyprrr

Yes, that is a member I miss.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on October 02, 2021, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Florestan on October 02, 2021, 09:31:39 AM
My biggest regret is not having been able to stick to music and arts only and having involved myself in lots of pointless and toxic political polemics and quarrels. Politics is the bane of mankind and I should have known better. Sigh...

If you haven't said what you wanted to say on those issues, you would have regretted much more. Go on Florestan!
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: SimonNZ on October 02, 2021, 07:41:13 PM
Every time I slap down a cover image, be it a cd a film or a book, without also making at least a token effort to say what I thought about it I regret my laziness or tiredness, usually the former. I don't think it's entirely worthless, someone may comment and I'll reply to their comment, but each time I'm aware I should at least try.

That's not a rule or requirement or judgment  for anyone else's posts, that's just for me.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: vandermolen on October 03, 2021, 01:35:35 AM
Membership of this group has cost me a fortune and caused exchanges such as the following at home - 'OMG YOU'RE NOT ONLINE TO YOUR 'CAT GROUP' AGAIN?' - 'IS THAT ANOTHER CD IN THE POSTBOX?' etcetc). Having said that I have learnt so much and discovered some great new composers and made new friends. I have also been the recipient of great generosity (John/MI, André, 'J' and many others - thank you all). As to regrets, the abrupt and unexplained disappearance of cilgwyn (Iestyn) still puzzles me. He introduced me to Fricker's 'Vision of Judgment' for which I shall forever be grateful. No other real regrets though - a highlight was the meal I had with the two Johan's (Christo and Herrenberg) with my wife and daughter when my daughter was 'studying' for a year in Leiden in the Netherlands and more recently the visit of Johan/Christo to my house (get well soon Johan if you are reading this).
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: steve ridgway on October 03, 2021, 04:41:35 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on October 02, 2021, 10:25:33 AM
I just needed to understand how a reality tv buffoon can become the president.

Well just look on YouTube for boris johnson have i got news for you from 20 years ago. :laugh:
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mirror Image on October 03, 2021, 07:29:49 AM
Quote from: vandermolen on October 03, 2021, 01:35:35 AM
Membership of this group has cost me a fortune and caused exchanges such as the following at home - 'OMG YOU'RE NOT ONLINE TO YOUR 'CAT GROUP' AGAIN?' - 'IS THAT ANOTHER CD IN THE POSTBOX?' etcetc). Having said that I have learnt so much and discovered some great new composers and made new friends. I have also been the recipient of great generosity (John/MI, André, 'J' and many others - thank you all). As to regrets, the abrupt and unexplained disappearance of cilgwyn (Iestyn) still puzzles me. He introduced me to Fricker's 'Vision of Judgment' for which I shall forever be grateful. No other real regrets though - a highlight was the meal I had with the two Johan's (Christo and Herrenberg) with my wife and daughter when my daughter was 'studying' for a year in Leiden in the Netherlands and more recently the visit of Johan/Christo to my house (get well soon Johan if you are reading this).

Thank you for this post, Jeffrey. You've been a great friend to me and for that I am eternally grateful.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: vandermolen on October 04, 2021, 04:48:41 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on October 03, 2021, 07:29:49 AM
Thank you for this post, Jeffrey. You've been a great friend to me and for that I am eternally grateful.
:)
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Artem on October 04, 2021, 06:07:59 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on October 02, 2021, 04:50:14 AM
My biggest regret on GMG was the demise of snyprrr
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Spotted Horses on October 04, 2021, 06:24:25 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 02, 2021, 09:29:22 AM
We all make mistakes, we don't always learn from them.

+1
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: T. D. on October 04, 2021, 07:25:16 AM
Mainly (1) too much posting and time spent on political (and other non-music) threads.
To a lesser degree (2) Too much posting on off-the-run and largely inactive music threads.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Ganondorf on October 04, 2021, 11:34:30 AM
Quote from: Mirror Image on October 02, 2021, 09:05:24 AM
For this, I'm truly sorry, but the sad reality of all of this is I'm not quite like this in real life

Kind of same thing with me, I am much nicer person in real life and my more abrasive nature on this forum may be result of my being almost completely unable to express my negative emotions in any way in real life. Not that it excuses bad behavior.
Title: Re: Your Biggest Regret On GMG?
Post by: Mirror Image on October 04, 2021, 11:43:34 AM
Quote from: Ganondorf on October 04, 2021, 11:34:30 AM
Kind of same thing with me, I am much nicer person in real life and my more abrasive nature on this forum may be result of my being almost completely unable to express my negative emotions in any way in real life. Not that it excuses bad behavior.

Nothing excuses bad behavior whether in real life or on the internet. It's a learning process and I'm just trying to do better. That's all.