Some of my paintings:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1433305810_b02c66aec8.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1240/1404865375_45e67a5be7_b.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1379/1394423478_dd215d50e0.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1197/1280569056_6edb62e88a_o.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1036/1278045173_6a12552e06_o.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1422/1397738906_adf11d1771_b.jpg)
What is the medium Saul? Are they computer illustrations designed to look like oil?
I like The Man, I must say :)
really nice! but using real oils would have been cooler.
this is kinda like playing korg triton's grand piano sound instead of playing a real grand piano.
Quote from: marazm1 on August 30, 2007, 07:16:00 AM
really nice! but using real oils would have been cooler.
this is kinda like playing korg triton's grand piano sound instead of playing a real grand piano.
I cant use real oil, Im allergic to it. cant stand the smell.
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
Quote from: Saul on August 30, 2007, 07:23:07 AM
I cant use real oil, Im allergic to it. cant stand the smell.
Not sure if not being able to stand the smell counts as 'allergic' ...
;)
Quote from: Mark on August 30, 2007, 07:24:16 AM
Not sure if not being able to stand the smell counts as 'allergic' ...
;)
I'm sensitive to it, call it whatever you want.
Quote from: Saul on August 30, 2007, 07:08:46 AM
I'm using a software called " Corel Painter IX" , and Im enjoying every minute of it.
Are you drawing the originals and playing around with them via the software?
Quote
Glad you liked "the man"... the things you can do these days its just so much fun.
Isn't it? I like playing around with photoshop, but mostly because I suck at taking photos ;D
The Mask is nice too.
Quote from: orbital on August 30, 2007, 07:31:06 AM
Are you drawing the originals and playing around with them via the software?
Isn't it? I like playing around with photoshop, but mostly because I suck at taking photos ;D
The Mask is nice too.
No, I do everything through the software.
Quote from: Saul on August 30, 2007, 07:51:36 AM
No, I do everything through the software.
May I ask where you get the originals?
Quote from: Saul on August 30, 2007, 08:29:12 AM
What are you asking?
I do the painting with this software and then I save it as Jpeg file and I post it here.
Here's another one:
Ancient place
http://www.flickr.com/photos/saulsmusic/1277943862/
Oh, I see. I thought you took photos then manipulated them.
Quote from: Mark on August 30, 2007, 08:35:03 AM
Oh, I see. I thought you took photos then manipulated them.
No, I did not.
Its all a painting.
The Guitar player
http://www.flickr.com/photos/saulsmusic/1278605140/
Africa
http://www.flickr.com/photos/saulsmusic/1278966971/
I liked them. Some are in a kind of Expressionist style. Your "The Man" reminded me a bit of one of Arnold Schoenberg's paintings; which I like:
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/schoenberg/painting/abstracthtms/ritter75.htm
Not so surprisingly, I enjoy your 'paintings' a good deal more than a lot of other modern and contemporary art that you might see, even in big galleries.
Pretty nice work, Saul.
Quote from: vandermolen on August 30, 2007, 02:02:45 PM
I liked them. Some are in a kind of Expressionist style. Your "The Man" reminded me a bit of one of Arnold Schoenberg's paintings; which I like:
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/schoenberg/painting/abstracthtms/ritter75.htm
Thanks alot and nice painting by Arnold, very cool.
Quote from: Norbeone on August 30, 2007, 02:26:30 PM
Not so surprisingly, I enjoy your 'paintings' a good deal more than a lot of other modern and contemporary art that you might see, even in big galleries.
Pretty nice work, Saul.
Thanks!
I enjoyed your paintings, Saul. Very nice. Will you be having an exhibition soon?
Quote from: Anne on August 30, 2007, 05:44:21 PM
I enjoyed your paintings, Saul. Very nice. Will you be having an exhibition soon?
Thanks Anne, glad you liked them!
Well I think that I need to print these artwork on canvas, and then we can think of exhibition. I will consult my uncle, he is a great artist in Israel , to see where to go with these art.
Best Wishes,
Saul
Quote from: Corey on August 30, 2007, 10:41:32 PM
On average, how long did it take you to do these?
I painted all of these yesterday.
Art is dead.
Why you say that?
Quote from: Saul on August 30, 2007, 05:48:44 PM
Thanks Anne, glad you liked them!
Well I think that I need to print these artwork on canvas, and then we can think of exhibition. I will consult my uncle, he is a great artist in Israel , to see where to go with these art.
Best Wishes,
Saul
Good luck Saul.
It's not that good art needs a long time to create, but you might be hard pressed to find a gallery in NYC (that's where you are right?) that would exhibit what they will automatically call "computer illustrations". They will, in the end, try to sell those pieces and it may not go very well with potential customers when they learn that it took 30 minutes to create them.
That being said, there is this street art vendor in Soho who sells those specially filtered huge photos of different sceneries. The photos themselcves are not very special, shots of the sea, a mountain ant the like. But he color filters them so they look shiny and almost monochromatic. They look very beautiful, but very simple too. I'd be inclined to buy them if I had a wall big enough. Some of them have a price tag of thousands of dollars and he has been in his spot (West Broadway bet Spring &Prince) for years now.
So you never know :)
Quote from: orbital on August 31, 2007, 05:49:50 AM
Good luck Saul.
It's not that good art needs a long time to create, but you might be hard pressed to find a gallery in NYC (that's where you are right?) that would exhibit what they will automatically call "computer illustrations". They will, in the end, try to sell those pieces and it may not go very well with potential customers when they learn that it took 30 minutes to create them.
That being said, there is this street art vendor in Soho who sells those specially filtered huge photos of different sceneries. The photos themselves are not very special, shots of the sea, a mountain ant the like. But he color filters them so they look shiny and almost monochromatic. They look very beautiful, but very simple too. I'd be inclined to buy them if I had a wall big enough. Some of them have a price tag of thousands of dollars and he has been in his spot (West Broadway bet Spring &Prince) for years now.
So you never know :)
Thanks for the advice, Orbital.
Painting with this software drastically reduces the time. Everything is so much easier and quicker. You don't need to set up a canvas nor, take the time for mixing colors and changing brushes and erasing mistakes. So, had I painted these paintings using conventail methods, I would have needed at least 3 or 4 hours for each painting instead the 45 minutes to an hour that it takes now. The are many examples of fine art that doesn't take too long to create.
Quote from: Saul on August 31, 2007, 10:09:33 AM
The are many examples of fine art that doesn't take too long to create.
Name one.
So, Saul, what are you trying to say with your art?
This one is called "The Flowers"
It took me about 45 minutes or so....
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1391/1287262605_50f62e276f.jpg)
Quote from: Corey on August 31, 2007, 10:31:16 AM
Three or four hours (not to mention 45 minutes) for a painting still seems slapped-together to me. Maybe you should just spend a few days on one painting instead of cranking out several inferior "paintings".
What time has to do with this?
When an artist feels that he expressed his ideas through art and it reached a certain level , then he can present it. You have no idea how this program makes things much quicker. I dont think that Just because the artist spend more time on his painting, it would be "better" then other art.
MAN, get a job ;D ! Painting, composition, blah!
Go work, serve your community.
The Visitor
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1103/1288563434_7a20f4eabb_o.jpg)
(c) Vishhhh
Quote from: Corey on August 31, 2007, 01:20:55 PM
It isn't simply a matter of taking longer to complete a work, but rather the amount of effort put into a work implied by the time it takes to make it. God, that's a fundamental aspect of art. I shouldn't have to spell it out for you. Throwing something together in a few minutes and foisting it off as "serious art" and styling yourself as a "serious artist" is laughable. Why do I bother? Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
Corey, I got feedback from my Uncle who happens to be a great Artist in Israel, a very accomplished one. He said that my art is serious. In fact he was the one that told me about this software.
You judge art by the amount of "time". Thats your opinion, but Artists disagree with your assertion. You have the right to say what you want, I dont mind it, but remember that your opinion is not fact.
Regards,
Quote from: Saul on August 31, 2007, 11:44:28 AM
Bob Ross, beautiful paintings in half an hour.
Then maybe you need to pick up the pace.
Quote from: Saul on August 31, 2007, 11:45:23 AM
This one is called "The Flowers"
It took me about 45 minutes or so....
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1391/1287262605_5bb5f73be3_o.jpg)
Is it just me, or does this one look suspiciously like two breasts poking through a black PVC catsuit?
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on August 31, 2007, 02:20:40 PM
Then maybe you need to pick up the pace.
Thanks Larry for not saying a word about the paintings and only have to offer silly comments.
Very nice of you.
Quote from: Mark on August 31, 2007, 02:24:50 PM
Is it just me, or does this one look suspiciously like two breasts poking through a black PVC catsuit?
Why Breasts? it could be eyes as well....
But I guess you were thinking about those hehe
Quote from: Saul on August 31, 2007, 02:26:18 PM
Why Breasts? it could be eyes as well....
Either way, they're a beautiful pair. ;D
Quote from: Saul on August 31, 2007, 02:25:21 PM
Thanks Larry for not saying a word about the paintings and only have to offer silly comments.
Very nice of you.
Be grateful.
Quote from: Mark on August 31, 2007, 02:27:28 PM
Either way, they're a beautiful pair. ;D
HAHA!!
yes they are!
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on August 31, 2007, 02:30:10 PM
Well, someone has to be. :D
But that someone needs to give others a chance as well.
be fair man... :D
Hey! This is fun!
Here's one I did - I call it, 'Stained Glass'.
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on August 31, 2007, 10:46:30 AM
Name one.
Duchamp's
Fountain? :P
At least, I guess it didn't take
him very long. Someone down at the bog factory probably laboured long and hard though ...
Saul -many of the 'images' that you show are certainly attractive & enjoyable, but I'm presuming that they are generated completely w/ computer-manipulated graphics - not objecting - this may be the future of art (unfortunately, IMO) - :-\
In any of these images that you present, did you actually take a 'brush' in hand and paint a 'wet liquid' on a canvas, or did you do some original print media (e.g. lithograph, etching, etc.) - if not, then you are producing 'computer-generated' art - not a great achivevement - but hey, I'm 'old fashion' - ;) :)
Quote from: SonicMan on August 31, 2007, 05:17:00 PM
Saul -many of the 'images' that you show are certainly attractive & enjoyable, but I'm presuming that they are generated completely w/ computer-manipulated graphics - not objecting - this may be the future of art (unfortunately, IMO) - :-\
In any of these images that you present, did you actually take a 'brush' in hand and paint a 'wet liquid' on a canvas, or did you do some original print media (e.g. lithograph, etching, etc.) - if not, then you are producing 'computer-generated' art - not a great achivevement - but hey, I'm 'old fashion' - ;) :)
The software gives me the tools to create these paintings, but I'm doing the paintings.
Sort of like the finale for composition. Gives you all the things you need to compose but you still need to do the "composing".
Quote from: Corey on August 31, 2007, 07:45:33 PM
By the way Saul, my comments are not personal attacks, but constructive criticism. If you can't handle comments aimed at improving your art, perhaps you're better off doing something that doesn't warrant any feedback, like becoming a meter-reader.
You began by asking "how long it took you to create these paintings?".
You were looking to build on some crack or a hole in order to get a hill to start your "constructive criticism". I also didn't like the tone that you used , certinly, I didn't get the impression that you were trying to assist me in creating "better" art.
You couldn't just look at the art that I presented here and judge it for what it was right there and that same moment that you viewed it? No.. you decided to build on some crack and ask questions so you could have a ramp to begin your "critic"...
Not an original move on your part Corey.
Quote from: Corey on September 01, 2007, 05:04:43 PM
I asked because it was pretty obvious right away that you spent very little time making them. They have very little depth or detail and seem pretty flat. It seems to me that you are using abstraction as a means to mask your sloppy work ethic, but go on doing what you do. Obviously you feel you are beyond criticism. That's all I'm going to say.
Im not using anything to mask anything.
Youre dreaming.
The Island
Took about 6 hours to create:
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1064/1298875227_458617e2c5_o.jpg)
Universal
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1269/1303973147_6fc450d50e_o.jpg)
Sagittarius
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1268/1304537193_fc820ad2c6_o.jpg)
The Hidden Mountains
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/1308672754_3aea3f1994_o.jpg)
Fer Chrissakes somebody tell this guy that this ain't 'Art.'
Computer daubs.
Sad, really.
Quote from: Hector on September 03, 2007, 05:39:43 AM
Fer Chrissakes somebody tell this guy that this ain't 'Art.'
Computer daubs.
Sad, really.
Get a hold of yourself , Hector...
Why can I only see the last one?
Latest painting
Lightning
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1326180582_1ad0bae618_b.jpg)
(c) Vishhh
Quote from: marazm1 on September 05, 2007, 06:25:29 PM
(c) Vishhh
You should post your "things" in your own personal thread.
You see, this one is called "My paintings".
Please create your own thread.
I think you can understand this simple request.
I saw your comment on my "Prelude In C sharp minor" on you tube.
Thanks for the complement. I think this was your first directed to me on this site.
You have been nasty towards me, and its nice to see that you are capeable of expressing positive things.
you called it "my paintings" and this is "my painting"
Quote from: marazm1 on September 05, 2007, 06:49:03 PM
you called it "my paintings" and this is "my painting"
Yes, but since when did you see anyone post their paintings here?
"My paintings" was meant to be a thread where I show the art that I created.
I have no problem at all if you post your things but please try to create your on personal thread.
Latest Painting
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1422/1397738906_adf11d1771_b.jpg
please Saul, go to an art school. Learn to draw from life. I know,you are brimming over with good intentions....but good intentions do not make good art.
Lear, learn,learn! Study, sketch, over and over again. Go to musea, have a good look at the old masters. have an even beter look at some contemporary masters. look at cats, dogs, pigeons,see how they move . use pencil, ink, a sharp pen, pastel. throw most of it away and start all over again.
Good luck;
Peter
I thought this thread would announce your six-week vacation from posting at GMG .........
Quote from: pjme on September 17, 2007, 11:39:55 AM
. . . good intentions do not make good art.
Excellent advice,
Peter!
Quote from: pjme on September 17, 2007, 11:39:55 AM
please Saul, go to an art school. Learn to draw from life. I know,you are brimming over with good intentions....but good intentions do not make good art.
Lear, learn,learn! Study, sketch, over and over again. Go to musea, have a good look at the old masters. have an even beter look at some contemporary masters. look at cats, dogs, pigeons,see how they move . use pencil, ink, a sharp pen, pastel. throw most of it away and start all over again.
Good luck;
Peter
Had you known that I did go to art school. I attended the art school where my uncle Merabi Gefen taught. In fact, after viewing some of my drawings, my uncle enrolled me to his art classes free of charge. I started drawing even before I studied music. The art school was located in Ashdod, Israel, the city that I grew up.
So next time, Mr. Peter, send me an email to find out some details about my art background before you compose your diatribe here.
Best Regards,
It is not a diatribe Saul.
If you publicly show your work on the Internet, do expect to encounter criticism.
I appreciate your energy and will to "perform", but your digital work does not convince .
Yet, I'm sure you can do better. Go , and find some real form. Think of skelettons.
Quote from: Corey on September 17, 2007, 12:54:10 PM
No use, PJ. It's Saul's world. We just live in it. ;D
No you dont live in it.
I know, I know....I shouldn't bother.
Here is a little gift, though.
(http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/dreamanatomy/images/400%20dpi/I-E-1-2.jpg)
Quote from: pjme on September 17, 2007, 01:19:47 PM
I know, I know....I shouldn't bother.
Here is a little gift, though.
(http://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/dreamanatomy/images/400%20dpi/I-E-1-2.jpg)
A bad case of over dieting.
Quote from: Saul on September 17, 2007, 12:25:24 PM
... my uncle Merabi Gefen ...
I could be wrong, but with a name like that, is he Jewish?
Quote... after viewing some of my drawings, my uncle enrolled me to his art classes free of charge.
And they said nepotism was dead.
Quote from: Mark on September 17, 2007, 01:42:14 PM
I could be wrong, but with a name like that, is he Jewish?
And they said nepotism was dead.
Merabi is a Georgian name while Gefen is a Hebrew for Vineyard or grape leaf.
I think of GMG as Saul's mother's refrigerator.
Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 17, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
I think of GMG as Saul's mother's refrigerator.
You need to get yourself some "Thinking" lessons.
The way you "think" now, makes me pity you, and no that wasn't a narcissistic comment.
Quote from: Saul on September 17, 2007, 01:51:17 PM
You need to get yourself some "Thinking" lessons.
The way you "think" now, makes me pity you, and no that wasn't a sciatic comment.
:o
Quote from: Saul on September 17, 2007, 01:51:17 PM
... and no that wasn't a narcissistic comment.
Definitions of sciatic on the Web:
relating to or caused by or afflicted with sciatica
of or relating to the ischium (or the part of the hipbone containing it); "sciatic nerve"
EDIT: Darn, you changed it.
Mark:
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jlv/lowres/jlvn317l.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on September 17, 2007, 01:36:14 PM
A bad case of over dieting.
No, simply a good example of a strong drawing.
Quote from: Corey on September 17, 2007, 01:54:17 PM
The new one hardly makes any more sense.
Corey,
You should seriously consider to go to some kind of a vacation , you know to get away from all the hazy ambiances...
Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 17, 2007, 01:57:43 PM
Mark:
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jlv/lowres/jlvn317l.jpg)
LMFAO!!! ;D ;D ;D
(My apologies, Saul.)
Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 17, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
I think of GMG as Saul's mother's refrigerator.
Good way of bringing your ideas to words.
Im very sure, that no one here guessed otherwise.
(http://www.oneblackgoat.com/funnyphotos/cartoon13.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on September 17, 2007, 02:05:05 PM
Good way of bringing your ideas to words.
Im very sure, that no one here guessed otherwise.
If I knew what you meant, I'd probably be very offended.
Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 17, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
I think of GMG as Saul's mother's refrigerator.
Just figured how you could've made this funnier: put the word 'door' after 'refrigerator'. I'd have got it straightaway then. ;)
Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 17, 2007, 02:06:24 PM
If I knew what you meant, I'd probably be very offended.
I even provided a visual picture of what I meant..
Here another one...
(http://www.crazylaughs.com/jkcartoons/139.jpg)
Quote from: Mark on September 17, 2007, 02:08:22 PM
Just figured how you could've made this funnier: put the word 'door' after 'refrigerator'. I'd have got it straightaway then. ;)
Well, the life's been sucked out of it by now anyway, so...
Quote from: Corey on September 17, 2007, 01:15:08 PM
What's this? You're evicting me? I swear I have the rent! I just gotta make the last payments on my Gremlin!
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/74
Quote from: Catison on September 17, 2007, 02:13:40 PM
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/74
I've seen that before. Too cute.
Quote from: Saul on September 17, 2007, 01:36:14 PM
A bad case of over dieting.
Whatever you may lack in artistic brilliance you compensate for with your keen sense of humor ........
Quote from: D Minor on September 17, 2007, 03:31:33 PM
Whatever you may lack in artistic brilliance you compensate for with your keen sense of humor ........
And as they say ' A bad compliment is worse then no compliment'.
Face the facts, Saul. You got no talent.
Quote from: sound67 on September 18, 2007, 01:43:17 AM
Face the facts, Saul. You got no talent.
Sounds like sounds67 made an untalented comment.
Latest Painting
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1402566620&size=m
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1402566620&size=l
Here is a better site for the topic Vacation:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDenT2n49tg
Saul: watch PBS for a show called Bob Ross and The Joy of Painting.
In 30 minutes you will be a new Leonardo! 0:)
Okay, so you paid attention in Geometry class!
Good start!
But, as I just mentioned under Vacation, you need the help of this man:
http://www.bobross.com/
tHANKS FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITIC.
Quote from: Saul on September 18, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
tHANKS FOR YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITIC.
"Criticism" and you are quite welcome! 8)
Graduates of the
Bob Ross School of Fine Painting are much in demand these days!
http://www.bobross.com/
Quote from: Cato on September 18, 2007, 11:13:59 AM
"Criticism" and you are quite welcome! 8)
Graduates of the Bob Ross School of Fine Painting are much in demand these days!
http://www.bobross.com/
You can apply first.
A new Painting
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1404865375&size=l
In this thread you can post your paintings.
New Painting
The Chairman:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1404865375&size=m
Cato wrote:
QuoteGraduates of the Bob Ross School of Fine Painting are much in demand these days!
Quote from: Saul on September 18, 2007, 11:30:28 AM
You can apply first.
Sorry, I already have a couple careers, one of them is advising people like you to sign up for the
Bob Ross School of Fine Painting!!! 8)
Quote from: Cato on September 19, 2007, 03:44:32 AM
Cato wrote:
Sorry, I already have a couple careers, one of them is advising people like you to sign up for the Bob Ross School of Fine Painting!!! 8)
Adviser?
Muahahaha
Quote from: Cato on September 19, 2007, 03:44:32 AM
Cato wrote:
Sorry, I already have a couple careers, one of them is advising people like you to sign up for the Bob Ross School of Fine Painting!!! 8)
Thinking of SNL-- now we just paint a little cabin over here... IT'S TOO BIG! ARG! Then Ross just loses it. Hilarious stuff. ;D
Actually Bob Ross was cool, well I don't paint, but my grandma and my sister both painted and watched everything of Ross' and I think it helped them maybe at least a little bit.
Bob Ross rooled the art world, dudes! 8)
Now he's up with that big easel in the sky!
Which reminds of that big weasel, a Bob Ross wannabe, on the street corner by the defunct gas station, with velvet, glow-in-the-dark paintings of Elvis shaking hands with 0:) Jesus in the sky with diamonds.
Now that's art! 0:)
Gouache on Japanese ricepaper and Damar varnish:
Quote from: uffeviking on September 19, 2007, 08:04:21 PM
Gouache on Japanese ricepaper and Damar varnish:
Why not start a contest to name the toad?
He/She deserves a name!
Sushi? Teriyaki? Tumuchsaki? 8)
Thank you! :-*
When I talk to him, I call him Toadie! He is definitely not for consumption, sale, yes! ;)
Quote from: uffeviking on September 19, 2007, 08:04:21 PM
Gouache on Japanese ricepaper and Damar varnish:
Very nice.
Thank you, appreciate your opinion :-*
Quote from: uffeviking on September 20, 2007, 07:57:36 AM
Thank you, appreciate your opinion :-*
I'm no expert, but it has an Asian quality to which I'm attracted.
Then you are attracted to this one, maybe:
Uffeviking wrote:
Then you are attracted to this one, maybe
Quote from: dtwilbanks on September 20, 2007, 09:13:23 AM
Yep. :)
Uffeviking: it looks like you have a sale!
Do I get a commission? ;D
Quote from: Cato on September 20, 2007, 10:05:40 AM
Uffeviking wrote:
Then you are attracted to this one, maybe
Uffeviking: it looks like you have a sale!
Do I get a commission? ;D
Hoooold on there. ;)
Quote from: Cato on September 20, 2007, 10:05:40 AM
Uffeviking wrote:
Uffeviking: it looks like you have a sale!
Do I get a commission? ;D
Yep! The usual 33%!
Quote from: Cato on September 20, 2007, 10:05:40 AM
Uffeviking wrote:
Do I get a commission? ;D
Don't spend it yet; customer changed his mind, Sorry! :'(
It isn't my painting, of course . . . . (http://www.geocities.com/maria_bablyak/news.html)
Quote from: karlhenning on September 22, 2007, 05:46:53 PM
It isn't my painting, of course . . . . (http://www.geocities.com/maria_bablyak/news.html)
You're like "in fact I've never even met the woman!" ;D ;D jeje
Please enlighten me, Karl: Is this batik? Or Maria's version of wax-resist?
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1433305810_b02c66aec8.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1433305810_b02c66aec8_b.jpg)
Quote from: uffeviking on September 22, 2007, 06:04:32 PM
Please enlighten me, Karl: Is this batik? Or Maria's version of wax-resist?
Batik in a broad sense,
Lis.
Maria doesn't use wax, but a modern resist with which she draws the outlines.
I call this "Stickman Can Fly":
(http://www.cdhb.govt.nz/waitlist/images/stickman/stickman.gif)
I dig the elation, Dave.
Quote from: karlhenning on September 24, 2007, 06:17:11 AM
I dig the elation, Dave.
Actually, I stole the image from an online site. But, y'know, I can draw better than that.
;D
Quote from: karlhenning on September 24, 2007, 05:53:29 AM
Batik in a broad sense, Lis. Maria doesn't use wax, but a modern resist with which she draws the outlines.
Thank you,
Karl! I was wondering - and worrying! - about your lovely Maria working in the potentially dangerous wax-resist medium. Didn't know of the modern and save, medium; I am kinda out of touch! :(
From Stephen King's short story "The Mangler:
(http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01109/13/41/1109911431_l.jpg)
Coeurl, from A.E. Van Vogt's classic sci-fi novel Voyage of the Space Beagle:
(http://b5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00984/55/68/984538655_l.jpg)
Another alien from A.E. Van Vogt's classic sci-fi novel Voyage of the Space Beagle, this one called Ixtl:
(http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01040/76/61/1040961667_l.jpg)
Quote from: karlhenning on September 22, 2007, 05:46:53 PM
It isn't my painting, of course . . . . (http://www.geocities.com/maria_bablyak/news.html)
nice, i like the style and all the decoration. Can't say i'm a big fan of birds and grass-paintings, but still, really nice
Quote from: Saul on September 24, 2007, 05:40:44 AM
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1433305810_b02c66aec8.jpg)
and this too!
wow, one of those paintings that just catches your eye, or at least mine. Very original, maybe even expressionist, dark, i could hardly believe that coming from you, Saul ;D
my new desktop 8)
Quote from: greg on September 24, 2007, 03:22:36 PM
nice, i like the style and all the decoration. Can't say i'm a big fan of birds and grass-paintings, but still, really nice
and this too!
wow, one of those paintings that just catches your eye, or at least mine. Very original, maybe even expressionist, dark, i could hardly believe that coming from you, Saul ;D
my new desktop 8)
Thanks alot Greg!
Guitar
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1438/1434905555_b605f23d1b.jpg)
Quote from: gomro on September 24, 2007, 03:19:05 PM
Another alien from A.E. Van Vogt's classic sci-fi novel Voyage of the Space Beagle, this one called Ixtl:
(http://b7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01040/76/61/1040961667_l.jpg)
The guy in the picture reminds me of Freeman from the Half-Life games. ;D
Quote from: DavidW on September 24, 2007, 05:22:08 PM
The guy in the picture reminds me of Freeman from the Half-Life games. ;D
While I had a specific character from the novel in mind - "Kent" - you aren't the first person to tell me that I ended up with Gordon Freeman meets Ixtl. So it goes! Nothing new under the sun and all that.
The picture that became my avatar, at least at present: Stockhausen, dozing, has a dream.:
(http://a619.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_8fb8e4f054f2e93d77a0184c65ae85e2.jpg)
[/quote]
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1148/1435126319_6a13ac301f.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1059/1438133190_880e7d33ce.jpg)
(http://www.artnet.com/magazine/news/artmarketwatch2/Images/artmarketwatch5-23-10.jpg)
this is how I feel ....Art on GMG is totally depressing.
Peter
There's art on GMG? Where?
Quote from: Corey on September 25, 2007, 04:46:33 AM
I like these, Gomro. They remind me of the old Sierra PC games like Space Quest.
They ought to, I guess; I'm using some freeware art stuff which is a
far cry from Photoshop or Coreldraw. I'll post a few more tonight, and maybe a couple that I drew (pen and ink) and then scanned, rather than using the software.
Pen and ink sketch of the title character from Lovecraft's Call of Cthulhu:
(http://b0.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00439/02/34/439844320_l.jpg)
Pen and ink sketch of the demon Chaugnar Faugn, from Frank Belknap Long's novelette Horror From The Hills:
(http://b4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00439/42/50/439920524_l.jpg)
Evil alien Glaaki, from Ramsey Campbell's early story The Inhabitant of the Lake:
(http://b3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00694/33/38/694308333_l.jpg)
I asked Campbell himself about the design of that creature, and he assured me that, despite appearances and the fact that the story states that the entity was made of metal, the Daleks from Dr. Who had no influence on his concept.
Sunset
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1187/1440780248_e7cec0aad0.jpg)
Quote from: Mark on September 25, 2007, 02:58:24 PM
There's art on GMG? Where?
You're right. Digital froth and childish pulp. It makes me sad.
Quote from: pjme on September 25, 2007, 11:25:14 PM
Digital froth and childish pulp. It makes me sad.
Ain't that the truth. ::)
Just returned from a long weekend trip to Wrightsville Beach near Wilmington, NC - we picked up a new 'limited edition' print by George Pocheptsov, who is now 15 y/o - he began drawing as an infant - the print below was done by George when he was 7 years old! Check out his WEBSITE (http://www.georgiepocheptsov.com/index.html) and the gallery for more of his art works (his original paintings are now in the $30,000 range depending on size & media used) - :D
(http://www.georgiepocheptsov.com/images/window_sally.jpg) (http://www.georgiepocheptsov.com/images/George%20on%20Stool%2072dpi(2).jpg)
that little kid must have been a goldmine for his mom! 100 grand a painting. wow!
The Escape
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1443553831&size=l
Midnight Moon
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1208/1460454425_b20922d060.jpg)
nvm
The Indian Chief
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1017/1470291583_842d37ae13_b.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on October 02, 2007, 04:24:11 PM
The Indian Chief
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1017/1470291583_842d37ae13_b.jpg)
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!! ;D
Quote from: Mark on October 02, 2007, 04:27:02 PM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!! ;D
Someone please try to cool him off.... ::)
Sorry Saul, but that is indeed the worst thing you've made until now....
Lack of form!: skull, nose, chin, neck ,shoulders....I'm sure you can do better.
Quote from: pjme on October 03, 2007, 01:51:56 AM
Sorry Saul, but that is indeed the worst thing you've made until now....
Lack of form!: skull, nose, chin, neck ,shoulders....I'm sure you can do better.
Actually I got some of the best comments about this painting in a differet website.
yeah, this one is very childish. I know some artists go for that "childish" look, but a self-respecting artist should be able to adequately represent reality, and then go for surrealism.
Quote from: marazm1 on October 04, 2007, 10:49:51 AM
yeah, this one is very childish. I know some artists go for that "childish" look, but a self-respecting artist should be able to adequately represent reality, and then go for surrealism.
I dont know what you want from me.
This is my painting.
Quote from: Saul on October 06, 2007, 03:46:47 PM
I dont know what you want from me.
Discussion of music? This is, after all, a classical music forum.
If you want to prove that you're amazing, and a great undiscovered genius, go to a museum, and sketch a statue with a pencil. Scan that sketch, and put it here. I dare you, Saul.
Quote from: marazm1 on October 06, 2007, 04:55:32 PM
If you want to prove that you're amazing, and a great undiscovered genius, go to a museum, and sketch a statue with a pencil. Scan that sketch, and put it here. I dare you, Saul.
::)
Dimitri, you just don't understand.
0:)Wahn, Wahn, überall Wahn! >:D
Peter
The Adventurer
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1465456962_e325662cd3.jpg)
The adventurous dog!
Quote from: pjme on October 07, 2007, 04:06:44 AM
The adventurous dog!
Thats not a painting.
Make your photo page and post it there.
Quote from: gomro on September 25, 2007, 05:22:53 PM
Pen and ink sketch of the title character from Lovecraft's Call of Cthulhu:
Sweet.
Quote from: Saul on October 07, 2007, 03:15:37 AM
The Adventurer
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1061/1465456962_e325662cd3.jpg)
All joking aside, I actually
like this one. :D
Quote from: Mark on October 07, 2007, 06:41:00 AM
All joking aside, I actually like this one. :D
Thanks Mark!
what, ::) ?
Quote from: marazm1 on October 07, 2007, 08:22:23 PM
what, ::) ?
He liked it. Thats what.
Whats not clear?
Now you can continue your table tennis game....
I asked you to go to museum and sketch a sculpture. and you rolled your eyes. explain.
Quote from: marazm1 on October 08, 2007, 08:13:54 AM
I asked you to go to museum and sketch a sculpture.
That's so 1790's, D.
The Flower
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2300/1538008844_b6a1c5ccd1_o.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on October 10, 2007, 04:55:41 PM
The Flower
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2300/1538008844_b6a1c5ccd1_o.jpg)
which sculpture was this?
Quote from: marazm1 on October 10, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
which sculpture was this?
What's with you and sculptures??
Change the subject... eat some popcorn. take a walk somewhere... read a book...
::)
Quote from: Saul on October 10, 2007, 05:47:07 PM
What's with you and sculptures??
Change the subject... eat some popcorn. take a walk somewhere... read a book...
::)
get a job ::)
(http://www.tussentaalenbeeld.nl/A05%20Agnes.jpg) >:D >:D ;D
Quote from: Saul on October 11, 2007, 03:01:08 PM
I have a Job, what do you do?
Nothing?
and what is your job?
what the hell do you do? You always evade the question. So tell me.
I'm a programmer/app support person at a pharmaceutical company.
(http://a146.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_7c173ddd774a3c70adb6594740ab86b9.jpg)
"O Science, You Hideous Thing"
Quote from: gomro on October 11, 2007, 05:07:51 PM
(http://a146.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_7c173ddd774a3c70adb6594740ab86b9.jpg)
"O Science, You Hideous Thing"
you drew that??? wow!
Quote from: marazm1 on October 11, 2007, 05:04:02 PM
and what is your job?
what the hell do you do? You always evade the question. So tell me.
I'm a programmer/app support person at a pharmaceutical company.
I don't have to tell you anything. But let me assure you that I have a very respectable well paying job thank g-d.
Reflective
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/1547877494_1005dbad0b.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on October 11, 2007, 05:37:04 PM
Reflective
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/1547877494_1005dbad0b.jpg)
I like this one quite a bit...
Quote from: Saul on October 11, 2007, 05:35:55 PM
I don't have to tell you anything. But let me assure you that I have a very respectable well paying job thank g-d.
'
are you a rebbeeeeee?
Anyone else like to play around with Chaospro?
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8831/69945747zh7.jpg)
Quote from: marazm1 on October 11, 2007, 05:46:43 PM
'
are you a rebbeeeeee?
No Marzam, you're not even close.
Why are you trying to make me answer something which I do not wish to share in this site. Everyone is entitled to some level of privacy and I think you can learn to respect that.
As I told you, I have a very respectable and well paying Job.
Quote from: Saul on October 11, 2007, 05:53:12 PM
No Marzam, you're not even close.
Why are you trying to make me answer something which I do not wish to share in this site. Everyone is entitled to some level of privacy and I think you can learn to respect that.
As I told you, I have a very respectable and well paying Job.
you can pm me. I'm dying of curiosity.
d.
Quote from: marazm1 on October 11, 2007, 06:00:07 PM
you can pm me. I'm dying of curiosity.
d.
But the question is , can I trust you that you wont go "public" about it?
How much is your "word" worth?
Candles
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2275/1547430661_d4e9392e40.jpg)
My latest painting: The Saul
I'm just joking. I admire your persistence amidst constant criticism.
Quote from: EmpNapoleon on October 11, 2007, 07:16:15 PM
I'm just joking. I admire your persistence amidst constant criticism.
Who's criticising?
I'm getting complements, people like my art.
Best Wishes,
Sorry Saul, not everybody agrees. I've told you before : when you go public with these works, expect some criticism.
What I see is stiff, formless and banal. Those digital tools are really too easy. Fast and easy, like doodles.
Yet I told you before : I'm sure you can do better.
Still, many appreciate your persistence, respect your convictions, have learned to understand your character.
Do amaze us with (less) and better art.
sincerely, Peter
Quote from: EmpNapoleon on October 11, 2007, 07:14:53 PM
My latest painting: The Saul
this is so awesome! sums it all!!
Quote from: Saul on October 11, 2007, 06:05:04 PM
But the question is , can I trust you that you wont go "public" about it?
How much is your "word" worth?
what a load of b.s. whatever.
Quote from: marazm1 on October 12, 2007, 03:12:05 AM
this is so awesome! sums it all!!
But what software did he use?
Quote from: pjme on October 11, 2007, 11:29:40 PM
Sorry Saul, not everybody agrees. I've told you before : when you go public with these works, expect some criticism.
What I see is stiff, formless and banal. Those digital tools are really too easy. Fast and easy, like doodles.
Yet I told you before : I'm sure you can do better.
Still, many appreciate your persistence, respect your convictions, have learned to understand your character.
Do amaze us with (less) and better art.
sincerely, Peter
"Better art"?
Oh... you're the one that will decide which one of my paintings is " better art"?
???
I create my art. Thats what I have to offer. Who ever likes it, great. Who ever doesn't like it, then thats that.
I don't produce "art on demand" to please everyone. I produce what I can, and love and there will always be those who will connect to it, and those who will not.
No artist or composer no matter how great, has ever summoned a universal following , even they had people that didn't like their art.
It's totally understandable.
(http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01362/99/24/1362944299_l.jpg)
Inspired by "Oslo Skyline" by Jaga Jazzist, which can be heard HERE:
http://www.myspace.com/sepultuba
Quote from: gomro on October 12, 2007, 05:16:14 AM
(http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01362/99/24/1362944299_l.jpg)
Inspired by "Oslo Skyline" by Jaga Jazzist, which can be heard HERE:
http://www.myspace.com/sepultuba
wow. i'd love to print that one and put it in my living room. can you send me a high-res of it??
Don't forget the sunglasses!
Quote from: marazm1 on October 12, 2007, 07:18:21 AM
wow. i'd love to print that one and put it in my living room. can you send me a high-res of it??
I don't like it at all. I'll never put it up my living room.
You have a strage sense of art, Marzamus.
Quote from: Saul on October 12, 2007, 09:46:11 AM
I don't like it at all. I'll never put it up my living room.
You have a strage sense of art, Marzamus.
Who asked you? Your art, especially "the indian", i'd use to decorate my house for halloween. :P haha
Quote from: marazm1 on October 12, 2007, 01:52:23 PM
Who asked you? Your art, especially "the indian", i'd use to decorate my house for halloween. :P haha
Know, they dont need to be sacred away.. they get that just by looking at you.
;D
Quote from: Saul on October 12, 2007, 01:53:39 PM
Know, they dont need to be sacred away.. they get that just by looking at you.
;D
I'd be too. that nose, man! I can practically lift food and put it in my mouth with it.
6:15 AM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2240/1564958780_0ef60fdae3.jpg)
Technically the bottom hand would be slightly to the left... ;)
Quote from: Lethe on October 13, 2007, 06:46:53 PM
Technically the bottom hand would be slightly to the left... ;)
Youre right ;D
The Secret Path
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/1565350064_90bd0b44f0.jpg)
The city and the wall
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2243/1573752671_b2fae3e955.jpg)
The falling mirrors
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2109/1581984099_6360ef9033.jpg)
The Gallery Viewer
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/1593346290_5308580c01.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on October 16, 2007, 04:57:32 PM
The Gallery Viewer
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/1593346290_5308580c01.jpg)
Reminds me of Don Quixote and Sancho except now D.Q. is walking and Sancho is riding.
Quote from: Anne on October 16, 2007, 05:22:11 PM
Reminds me of Don Quixote and Sancho except now D.Q. is walking and Sancho is riding.
Wow, great observation, Anne.
Thanks. I like your paintings.
(c) Vishhh
Quote from: marazm1 on October 17, 2007, 06:42:30 PM
(c) Vishhh
I don't know why you like to play it stupid.
The Walled City
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/1663097484_6569dae132.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on October 20, 2007, 06:02:21 PM
The Walled City
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/1663097484_6569dae132.jpg)
is this a bad translation?
Quote from: marazm1 on October 20, 2007, 09:32:36 PM
is this a bad translation?
You have any comment about the painting?
If yes, let me know.
Thanks.
The Pyramid
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/1881544899_5c2821e822.jpg)
Leopard's stone
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/1888670622_f3035dcf13.jpg)
Some Place
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2043/1909475611_7630b8788d.jpg)
i don't know, i like Saul's modernistic paintings ;D
he has a few that are definetely weak, but i have a hard time convincing myself that this is also weak:
Quote from: Saul on November 06, 2007, 04:18:37 AM
Leopard's stone
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/1888670622_f3035dcf13.jpg)
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on November 07, 2007, 03:52:42 PM
i don't know, i like Saul's modernistic paintings ;D
he has a few that are definetely weak, but i have a hard time convincing myself that this is also weak:
Thanks for your comments, Greg.
I'm doing some experimental art here, this particular one as well.
Quote from: Saul on November 07, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
Thanks for your comments, George.
I'm doing some experimental art here, this particular one as well.
That isn't
G...E...O...R...G...E..., its
G...R...E...G... ;D
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on November 07, 2007, 04:37:15 PM
That isn't G...E...O...R...G...E..., its G...R...E...G... ;D
T...H...A...N...K...S ;D
Quote from: Saul on November 06, 2007, 04:18:37 AM
Leopard's stone
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/1888670622_f3035dcf13.jpg)
Fred Flintstone Descending a Staircase?
Quote from: Saul on November 05, 2007, 06:13:23 PM
The Pyramid
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/1881544899_5c2821e822.jpg)
Study for Windows Media Player Visualizer No. 1
Quote from: Saul on November 07, 2007, 03:31:24 PM
Some Place
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2043/1909475611_7630b8788d.jpg)
Metaphysical Interior with Christmas Tree
Quote from: Corey on November 07, 2007, 05:29:27 PM
Metaphysical Interior with Christmas Tree
you're hilarious!! omfGOD!
Quote from: Corey on November 07, 2007, 05:29:27 PM
Metaphysical Interior with Christmas Tree
Corey Chips... munch'em and bunch 'em.... ;D
Corey, brilliant titles for Saul's 'art'. ;D
Quote from: Mark on November 08, 2007, 12:08:54 AM
Corey, brilliant titles for Saul's 'art'. ;D
he too liked Corey Chips.
Flower Field
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2344/1924574069_1870e49e41.jpg)
The Hunter's Sword
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/1977138995_3e6be53466.jpg)
Quote from: Saul on November 11, 2007, 08:44:02 PM
The Hunter's Sword
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/1977138995_3e6be53466.jpg)
Why not call this one "The Housewife's Ironing Board" :P
Quote from: beer on November 11, 2007, 11:20:30 PM
Why not call this one "The Housewife's Ironing Board" :P
Looks like a cigar IMO.
Quote from: beer on November 11, 2007, 11:20:30 PM
Why not call this one "The Housewife's Ironing Board" :P
And the answer is?
Because swords are cooler than doing the laundry
How about "Broken Hearted?"
Quote from: Anne on November 12, 2007, 08:28:01 AM
How about "Broken Hearted?"
How about "Let's just keep the original title" ?
lol ;D
i'm not sure about the last two......
Quote from: Saul on November 11, 2007, 08:44:02 PM
The Hunter's Sword
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/1977138995_3e6be53466.jpg)
is this sexual in nature?
What's the pink thing at the left with the red stripes?
(http://thebeautybrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/012407nail-polish-barbie.jpg)
These girls use it and they love it!
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on November 12, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
What's the pink thing at the left with the red stripes?
Its an oval shaped Zebra.
Sunrise over Folgenart
Latest Work
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2043741663_febc688bee.jpg)
Shouldent there be shadows on this side of the wall
Quote from: Saul on November 11, 2007, 08:44:02 PM
The Hunter's Sword
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/1977138995_3e6be53466.jpg)
Le Roi Arthus dans le Lumière Rouge
Quote from: beer on November 18, 2007, 11:12:09 AM
Shouldent there be shadows on this side of the wall
You can add them in your imagination.
(http://www.lehmannmaupin.com/files/6752b58d.jpg)
Barbara Cartland with dog, dreaming of pink interiors and a nail polishing set.
Quote from: pjme on November 18, 2007, 01:37:26 PM
(http://www.lehmannmaupin.com/files/6752b58d.jpg)
Barbara Cartland with dog, dreaming of pink interiors and a nail polishing set.
Dont you have anything else to do?
Just to "Make fun"?
Are you a clown?
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on November 18, 2007, 03:50:15 PM
what's fun ???
Ok.
Its like if I told you that you look like a squeaky squirrel.
That would be considered as "Making Fun" of you....
Quote from: Saul on November 18, 2007, 03:56:03 PM
Ok.
Its like if I told you that you look like a squeaky squirrel.
That would be considered as "Making Fun" of you....
don't be dissin' my squirrel culture, yo :-[
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on November 18, 2007, 04:20:07 PM
don't be dissin' my squirrel culture, yo :-[
"Dissin"?
Aight....
Quote from: Saul on November 18, 2007, 04:21:30 PM
"Dissin"?
Aight....
you missed a comma in A'ight. I be dissin' your culture, now
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on November 18, 2007, 04:24:29 PM
you missed a comma in A'ight. I be dissin' your culture, now
Whateva
SAUL MALL
did i hurt your feelings yet?
Quote from: Saul on November 18, 2007, 02:03:31 PM
Dont you have anything else to do?
Just to "Make fun"?
Are you a clown?
Could we not ask you the same?
We could but he wouldent reply because he is busy making fine art.
Or something
Quote from: Catison on November 18, 2007, 08:35:43 PM
Could we not ask you the same?
You could do whatever you want,
CAT MIAO MIAO
Quote from: Saul on November 18, 2007, 05:44:18 PM
No you didnt.
SAUL PAULthere. Now I hurt your feelings and dissed your culture. yo yo yo! 8)
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on November 19, 2007, 06:15:10 AM
SAUL PAUL
there. Now I hurt your feelings and dissed your culture. yo yo yo! 8)
No you didnt.
Quote from: Saul on November 19, 2007, 08:36:13 AM
No you didnt.
:'(
what can i do to hurt your feelings?....... :'( :'( :'(
(http://emeurant.googlepages.com/biennez_BienNez_2.jpg)
Yes, a clown - that's a good idea.
Quote from: pjme on November 19, 2007, 11:09:11 AM
(http://emeurant.googlepages.com/biennez_BienNez_2.jpg)
Yes, a clown - that's a good idea.
Are your feelings hurt now, Saul?
(http://groovyvic.mu.nu/archives/images/boy-g.jpg)
Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to make me cry?
What are you doing?
Stop this stupid nonsense, please.
Actually, of course, the Schlegels' irony had also an objective side, one that was less reassuring, however, than Hegel's objective moral truth. Friedrich had found it "strikingly ironic" that der grosse Maschinist behind the chaos "finally discloses himself as a contemptible betrayer." In riot quite so disillusioned a way, this objective source of irony moved to the foreground in Solger's aesthetic. In Solger's view, the human artist created a beautiful work "just as the essence of God, in its non-actuality, reveals itself intact as the very core" of a human being. In both cases the idea inhabits a particular "thing." For Solger the situation was ironic, because, on the one hand, although the "thing" appeared to suggest the infinite, it was really only a thing, and on the other hand, although the "infinite" appeared to transcend the thing, it could not really do so—it must inhabit finite reality. Schlegel's tension of opposites had become the "concrete universal," the ironic symbol of a universe which intimated meanings that could not be reached in an eternal form. But at least in the artistic symbol "all contradictions annihilate themselves": irony is a unifying structure.
"Without irony," then, "there is no art." Considering the tension of opposites as moving rather than static, Solger found that irony "begins with the contemplation of the world's fate in the large": "we suffer when we see the most elevating and noble ideals dissipated through their necessary earthly existence." A. W. Schlegel had barred irony from the "proper tragic," but for Solger satiric and "tragic irony" were simply different aspects of the irony common to all art: in the first, false ideals were destroyed; in the second, admirable ones, and the audience is not detached: "we suffer." Although the dominant movement in both satiric and tragic irony was toward defeat, Solger saw an opposing comic movement arising out of destruction, as had Friedrich Schlegel in his "self-creating alteration." The very moment that breaks the brief union of idea and thing affirms both the value of the idea and the necessity of its embodiment. When Hamlet dies, Fortinbras must appear. (For discussions of and references to Solger's statements about irony, see Wellek, Mueller, pp. 225-26, Sedgewick, p. 17, and Strohschneider-Kohrs.) :)
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on November 18, 2007, 04:48:13 PM
SAUL MALL
did i hurt your feelings yet?
Quote from: pjme on November 19, 2007, 01:55:35 PM
Actually, of course, the Schlegels' irony had also an objective side, one that was less reassuring, however, than Hegel's objective moral truth. Friedrich had found it "strikingly ironic" that der grosse Maschinist behind the chaos "finally discloses himself as a contemptible betrayer." In riot quite so disillusioned a way, this objective source of irony moved to the foreground in Solger's aesthetic. In Solger's view, the human artist created a beautiful work "just as the essence of God, in its non-actuality, reveals itself intact as the very core" of a human being. In both cases the idea inhabits a particular "thing." For Solger the situation was ironic, because, on the one hand, although the "thing" appeared to suggest the infinite, it was really only a thing, and on the other hand, although the "infinite" appeared to transcend the thing, it could not really do so—it must inhabit finite reality. Schlegel's tension of opposites had become the "concrete universal," the ironic symbol of a universe which intimated meanings that could not be reached in an eternal form. But at least in the artistic symbol "all contradictions annihilate themselves": irony is a unifying structure.
"Without irony," then, "there is no art." Considering the tension of opposites as moving rather than static, Solger found that irony "begins with the contemplation of the world's fate in the large": "we suffer when we see the most elevating and noble ideals dissipated through their necessary earthly existence." A. W. Schlegel had barred irony from the "proper tragic," but for Solger satiric and "tragic irony" were simply different aspects of the irony common to all art: in the first, false ideals were destroyed; in the second, admirable ones, and the audience is not detached: "we suffer." Although the dominant movement in both satiric and tragic irony was toward defeat, Solger saw an opposing comic movement arising out of destruction, as had Friedrich Schlegel in his "self-creating alteration." The very moment that breaks the brief union of idea and thing affirms both the value of the idea and the necessity of its embodiment. When Hamlet dies, Fortinbras must appear. (For discussions of and references to Solger's statements about irony, see Wellek, Mueller, pp. 225-26, Sedgewick, p. 17, and Strohschneider-Kohrs.) :)
that was an excellent response to my post :)
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Quote from: marazm1 on December 17, 2007, 12:04:43 PM
curb after your dog
Nice guitar leash, Marazm... ;D ;)
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Quote from: Saul on December 19, 2007, 03:50:33 PM
Nice guitar leash, Marazm... ;D ;)
you mean the strap?
I have this one: (http://www.feelmusic.fr/upload/3293_pt.jpg)
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There are plenty of "apprentices of the Universe" in this world!