What pieces of music do you really want to see live before you "kick the bucket"? What pieces are you willing to travel to see?
I think my live bucket list currently looks like...
Berlioz - La Damnation de Faust
[edited to add] Chavez - Sinfonia india
Janacek - the operas
Kabelac - Mystery of Time
Lloyd - Symphony No 5
Martinu - Piano Concerto No 4
[edited to add] Mendelssohn - Octet
Roussel - Bacchus et Ariane (complete)
Widor - Organ Symphony No 5 but they don't rush the toccata
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I've been lucky enough to successfully tick off a number of "bucket list" pieces of music: Janacek's Glagolitic Mass (twice) and Sinfonietta (three times with a fourth canceled by covid), Nielsen's Fourth, the Gothic Symphony, Mahler 3, Sibelius 5, the Alexander Nevsky Cantata, Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra (twice), Dvorak's Te Deum, and Schubert's string quintet.
My list includes:
Nielsen 5
Mahler 9 (Tentatively scheduled for next spring!)
Sibelius 6
Bruch Double Concerto
Suk Asrael
Stanford 3 or 6
I'll probably think of more later.
In the past year, I was able to cross 2 works off my list: Mahler 7 and Lutosławski's Concerto for Orchestra.
Pli selon pli by Boulez
Gruppen for Three Orchestras by Stockhausen (at least a better performance than Alan Gilbert did in NYC some years ago)
Carré by Stockhausen
Concerto for Orchestra by Carter (which I've only heard live once, in a disappointing rendition under Leon Botstein)
The one time I met Boulez, I asked him whether he'd ever perform Gruppen in New York, and he replied there was no suitable hall. The Park Avenue Armory where Gilbert performed the work did not prove him wrong. But I foolishly neglected to ask why we've never heard Pli selon pli, which has no similar spatial requirements.
And for something completely different:
Les Huguenots by Meyerbeer
Utopia Limited by G+S (much the more interesting of the two late "orphans," the other being the dull Grand Duke)
I have heard all the "big five" Janacek operas live, and to redress the above, Gilbert's semi-staged concert performance of Vixen with the NY Phil was the highlight of my experience hearing him there.
I don't know if I'd say these are true bucket list items, since visiting a handful of natural wonders are the only things I place in that category, but performances I'd travel to see include:
Wozzeck and Lulu somewhere in Germany, or perhaps New York/Chicago/San Francisco/LA. (I want a big name cast.)
The Ring at Bayreuth. (I could see the cycle in Dallas in concert productions next year, and that could suffice?)
Parsifal at Bayreuth. (I would be willing to travel up and down the West Coast otherwise.)
Tristan at Bayreuth, or perhaps New York/Chicago/San Francisco/LA.
Il Trittico (complete) at La Scala, or perhaps New York/Chicago/San Francisco/LA.
Boris Godunov, Don Carlos, Falstaff, Life with an Idiot, Saint François d'Assise, Nozze, and La Boheme in a suitable production somewhere in North America.
There are a good number of artists I'd travel to see. Volodos, Schuch, YES, Mladic, Hinrichs, Gens, Bayrakdarian and a host of others warrant domestic travel. Volodos and Schuch may warrant crossing the pond. I'd also like to see Kit Armstrong perform in Sainte Thérèse de l'Enfant Jésus, just because.
Strauss: An Alpine Symphony
Berlioz: Requiem
Janacek: Glagolitic Mass
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 7 or No. 13
Schnittke: Cello Concerto No. 1
Puccini: Turandot
Walton: Symphony No. 1 Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin (complete ballet, of course)
Holmboe: Symphony No. 8
Poulenc: Organ Concerto
Atterbeg: Symphony No. 3
I already had the pleasure of hearing some works I really love (Nielsen's 4th and 5th, Mahler's 6th, Arnold's 5th, Verdi's Requiem, Prokoviev's Alexander Nevsky, Berlioz's La Damnation de Faust, Bruckner's 8th, Tchaikovsky's Piano Trio, Ravel's String Quartet and Piano Trio, Dvorak's String Quartet No. 13, etc.)
Wagner: every opera at the Bayreuth Festival
Mahler: Symphonies No. 6 & 9
Liszt: Transcendental Etudes or Anneès de pelèrinage
Beethoven: Symphony No. 9
Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No. 2 or Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini
Schönberg: Erwartung, Verklärte Nacht or the Gurre-Lieder (I hope next year in Milan)
Holst: The Planets
Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie
New Year's Concert in Vienna
Ravel: Miroirs or Daphnis et Chloé
Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6
Quote from: Brian on June 27, 2023, 11:02:05 AMWhat pieces of music do you really want to see live before you "kick the bucket"? What pieces are you willing to travel to see?
I think my live bucket list currently looks like...
Berlioz - La Damnation de Faust
Janacek - the operas
Kabelac - Mystery of Time
Lloyd - Symphony No 5
Martinu - Piano Concerto No 4
Roussel - Bacchus et Ariane (complete)
Widor - Organ Symphony No 5 but they don't rush the toccata
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I've been lucky enough to successfully tick off a number of "bucket list" pieces of music: Janacek's Glagolitic Mass (twice) and Sinfonietta (three times with a fourth canceled by covid), Nielsen's Fourth, the Gothic Symphony, Mahler 3, Sibelius 5, the Alexander Nevsky Cantata, Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra (twice), Dvorak's Te Deum, and Schubert's string quintet.
Er, sorry, but by your own thread value, you don't get to lump all of Janacek's operas into one! :) Well, it's pushing it at least! ;-)
PD
In no order,
Koppel: Cello Concerto
Sauguet: Symphony No. 3
Scelci: Uaxuctum
Bax: Symphony No. 2
Diamond: Symphony No. 2
Arnold: Symphony No. 5
Pärt: Stabat Mater
Holmboe: Symphony No. 8
Taktakishvili: Violin Concerto No.1
Pettersson: Symphony No. 7
Chavez: Piano Concerto
Myaskovsky: Symphony No. 27
Mathias: Concerto for harp and orchestra
Kodaly: String Quartet No. 1(or just mvt. 3-Presto as an encore)
Villa-Lobos: Symphony No. 5 ::)
Two pieces that I can tick off my list are the Bax Symphony No. 3 and Villa-Lobos Choros no. 11. I did travel to London (from California) to hear the Bax with Vernon Handley conducting. The Villa-Lobos was performed with Christina Ortiz in Yokohama, Japan, where I just happened to be living at that time.
I tried several times to get the Pärt performed when I lived in Sacramento, but it always fell through.
I would be willing to travel to see most of those on my list. The Koppel, Sauguet and Taktakishvili pieces are probably rarely (never?) performed outside of their composer's respective country, so would require travel.
Some of mine (still working on my first cup of coffee):
Some Sibelius: Perhaps a selection of his tone poems played by the Lahti in Finland (and then being able to see the Northern Lights) Oh, happy day!
Don Carlos at La Scala
Vaughan Williams - Oh, boy...er Symphony No. 2 in London
Something by Britten in Aldeburgh - Maybe, Midsummer Night's?
Debussy - Images, somewhere in southern France during the spring or early summertime (not in August!)
Dvorak - Just about anything, played in the Czech Republic--Oh! His cello concerto! Perhaps at the Rudolfinum? :)
Janacek - Like the OP, hard to narrow it down...drat, Brian! Maybe his two string quartets? I imagine that there is a nice venue or two in Moravia? Would love to see his Sinfonietta performed. All of that brass! :o
Kodaly - His Concerto for Cello Solo..how about in Budapest?
Will think of others.
PD
Bruce's post about an upcoming livestream reminded me: Mendelssohn's Octet is DEFINITELY on my concert must-see list. Just from the last livestream he posted of that piece, it looks like so much fun to watch in person.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on June 28, 2023, 03:17:59 AMSome Sibelius: Perhaps a selection of his tone poems played by the Lahti in Finland (and then being able to see the Northern Lights) Oh, happy day!
There is a "concert hall" in rural Finland that is a little valley between two mountains, and every summer they do a concert or two where orchestra musicians perch on the side of one mountain and everyone sits in the valley and listens outdoors. That might be a fun venue for this! (Details of it I learned in the booklet to Kalevi Aho's Symphony No. 12 (https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7786.msg1526386.html#msg1526386), which was written for this "venue".)
Quote from: Todd on June 27, 2023, 02:44:42 PMThe Ring at Bayreuth. (I could see the cycle in Dallas in concert productions next year, and that could suffice?)
Full schedule and partial cast is announced by the way. They are doing some of 'em twice.
Rheingold - Sun., Oct. 13, 2pm
Walkure - Tue., Oct. 15, 5pm
Siegfried - Thu., Oct. 17, 5pm, and also Sat., Oct. 5, 5pm
Gotterdammerung - Sun., Oct. 20, 5pm, and also Tue., Oct. 8, 5pm
"The star-studded cast list includes Lise Lindstrom (Brunnhilde), Sara Jakubiak (Sieglinde), Deniz Uzun (Fricka), Daniel Johanssohn (Siegfried), Mark Delavan (Wotan), and Tomas Tomasson (Alberich). The production will be led by staging director Alberto Triola, who also produced the DSO's opera-in-concert performances of Salome and Eugene Onegin."
Quote from: Mapman on June 27, 2023, 01:02:47 PMMy list includes:
Nielsen 5
Mahler 9 (Tentatively scheduled for next spring!)
Sibelius 6
Bruch Double Concerto
Suk Asrael
Stanford 3 or 6
I'll probably think of more later.
In the past year, I was able to cross 2 works off my list: Mahler 7 and Lutosławski's Concerto for Orchestra.
I have tickets for Mahler 9 in a couple months.
Detroit just announced next season, and they'll perform Bruch's Double Concerto. I'm not sure if I will still be in Michigan next spring, but I might travel to Detroit anyway.
Gurre-leider
Ralph Vaughan Williams - Symphony No. 1, 2, 3, ok all of them.
Empire Strikes Back - Live to Picture
Quote from: Mapman on June 27, 2023, 01:02:47 PMMahler 9 (Tentatively scheduled for next spring!)
Here's hoping! I got to hear the
BSO play this in
Symphony Hall. Fabulous!
Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on June 27, 2023, 01:05:11 PMPli selon pli by Boulez
Gruppen for Three Orchestras by Stockhausen (at least a better performance than Alan Gilbert did in NYC some years ago)
Carré by Stockhausen
Concerto for Orchestra by Carter (which I've only heard live once, in a disappointing rendition under Leon Botstein)
The one time I met Boulez, I asked him whether he'd ever perform Gruppen in New York, and he replied there was no suitable hall. The Park Avenue Armory where Gilbert performed the work did not prove him wrong. But I foolishly neglected to ask why we've never heard Pli selon pli, which has no similar spatial requirements.
And for something completely different:
Les Huguenots by Meyerbeer
Utopia Limited by G+S (much the more interesting of the two late "orphans," the other being the dull Grand Duke)
I have heard all the "big five" Janacek operas live, and to redress the above, Gilbert's semi-staged concert performance of Vixen with the NY Phil was the highlight of my experience hearing him there.
Great to 'see' you, Larry!
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on June 27, 2023, 04:15:32 PMEr, sorry, but by your own thread value, you don't get to lump all of Janacek's operas into one! :) Well, it's pushing it at least! ;-)
PD
Bring that hammer
down, PD!
Quote from: Brian on February 28, 2024, 05:29:09 AMThere is a "concert hall" in rural Finland that is a little valley between two mountains, and every summer they do a concert or two where orchestra musicians perch on the side of one mountain and everyone sits in the valley and listens outdoors. That might be a fun venue for this! (Details of it I learned in the booklet to Kalevi Aho's Symphony No. 12 (https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,7786.msg1526386.html#msg1526386), which was written for this "venue".)
That could be cool!
PD
La fanciulla del West. But maybe that's not enough: I want a specific production by Vilppu Kiljunen which probably isn't performed any more and which I had a chance to see some 10+ years ago but I didn't. So I don't entertain high hopes of ever seeing that one. Maybe some other production will suffice?
There are countless other operas I would like to see but Fanciulla is currently number uno. There are other operas I like even more (such as Wagner's Ring) but I didn't list those because after the upcoming Götterdämmerung in May, I have seen not one but two different performances of it already. My first Ring was the famed Götz Friedrich production in 2011. The second one I have almost finished is Finnish-made. Granted I would like to see Ring and other Wagner operas at Bayreuth very much but I would probably have to wait for a looooong time and pay an extraordinary amount, besides. I've heard acoustics there are quite special, though.
Quote from: relm1 on February 28, 2024, 05:44:38 AMGurre-leider
Ralph Vaughan Williams - Symphony No. 1, 2, 3, ok all of them.
Empire Strikes Back - Live to Picture
Now that you mention it, I have only seen one RVW symphony live (5) and it was by a student orchestra (albeit students being conducted by Vladimir Ashkenazy).
Quote from: relm1 on February 28, 2024, 05:44:38 AMGurre-leider
Delighted to report that we've had that at
Symphony Hall, too.
Quote from: Brian on February 28, 2024, 08:31:42 AMNow that you mention it, I have only seen one RVW symphony live (5) and it was by a student orchestra (albeit students being conducted by Vladimir Ashkenazy).
Paavo Berglund led the
BSO in the
RVW Sixth. What a great evening!
Quote from: Brian on February 28, 2024, 05:29:09 AM"The star-studded cast list includes Lise Lindstrom (Brunnhilde), Sara Jakubiak (Sieglinde), Deniz Uzun (Fricka), Daniel Johanssohn (Siegfried), Mark Delavan (Wotan), and Tomas Tomasson (Alberich).
There appears to be a different understanding between myself and the DSO marketing folks as to what "star-studded" means. This is partially offset by Dallas weather in October.
Quote from: Brian on February 28, 2024, 08:31:42 AMNow that you mention it, I have only seen one RVW symphony live (5) and it was by a student orchestra (albeit students being conducted by Vladimir Ashkenazy).
I've been lucky, I've managed to hear four (4) RVW symphonies since 2013, but they were all at the Grant Park Festival, where VW-loving Carlos Kalmar was in charge. (3 of them were under Kalmar, and the other under Martyn Brabbins.)
The CSO also did a couple of VW syms during that time, but I missed them.
Quote from: Ganondorf on February 28, 2024, 06:50:56 AMLa fanciulla del West. But maybe that's not enough: I want a specific production by Vilppu Kiljunen which probably isn't performed any more and which I had a chance to see some 10+ years ago but I didn't. So I don't entertain high hopes of ever seeing that one. Maybe some other production will suffice?
This one? https://www.vilppukiljunen.fi/la-fanciulla-del-west-the-girl-of-the-west-2001/
I noticed that there are a couple of email contacts listed there (including one for Vilppu Kiljunen). You might try writing him(?) and asking him if they had ever released it on dvd or if there's a place/way that you could view it? Out of curiosity, why did you particularly want to see this production?
PD
Quote from: Karl Henning on February 28, 2024, 08:41:18 AMPaavo Berglund led the BSO in the RVW Sixth. What a great evening!
8) When (approximately) was this?
The only work that I've seen performed of his live was Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis.
Would love to see more!
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on February 28, 2024, 09:30:13 AMWhen (approximately) was this?
The only work that I've seen performed of his live was Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis.
Mebbe 20 years ago. And the
Tallis Fantasia is delicious live! Heard it in neighboring Arlington.
Quote from: Karl Henning on February 28, 2024, 09:38:03 AMMebbe 20 years ago. And the Tallis Fantasia is delicious live! Heard it in neighboring Arlington.
Nice! By the way, have you heard the recording of the Fantasia with Andrew Davis? It was included along with Walton's Belshazzar on a BBC Music Magazine CD (believe that it was also released on DVD?).
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on February 28, 2024, 09:46:41 AMNice! By the way, have you heard the recording of the Fantasia with Andrew Davis? It was included along with Walton's Belshazzar on a BBC Music Magazine CD (believe that it was also released on DVD?).
PD
That recording, I have not.
I would love to hear most any of the big orchestral works by Xenakis. But that is unlikely to happen since performing them requires basically learning a new language, using his graphic scores. Last fall the Berlin Philharmonic did Jonchaies (1977), with strong echoes of The Rite of Spring, and it was marvelous. Likely still available on their Digital Concert Hall.
Would also travel for a complete Grisey Les espaces acoustiques, another big work that is unlikely to be performed in the United States. I just found out that the Frankfurt version, performed a few weeks ago, is on their website (https://www.hr-sinfonieorchester.de/livestreams/cresc-biennale-2024--espaces-acoustiques-v1,livestream-16-02-2024-100.html), so I will find a time soon to watch it that way.
-Bruce
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on February 28, 2024, 09:26:27 AMThis one? https://www.vilppukiljunen.fi/la-fanciulla-del-west-the-girl-of-the-west-2001/
I noticed that there are a couple of email contacts listed there (including one for Vilppu Kiljunen). You might try writing him(?) and asking him if they had ever released it on dvd or if there's a place/way that you could view it? Out of curiosity, why did you particularly want to see this production?
PD
Yeah, that one. Thanks for the suggestion. Partly because of OCD. Cue extremely rambling explanation: I had the chance to see that production and now I shall always rack my brains about what that production was like, apart from a couple of photographs you may find online. I know that isnt very logical since quite realistically I could see any production abroad. But OCD is rarely logical. I guess the "reason" would be twofold: number 1: I recall to have strongly considered back then going to that performance yet for some reason or other I didn't so OCD says I never quite "finished" with it, so to speak. The second reason is more problematic: I am greatly interested in Finnish performances. Not merely but sometimes. It's true that I haven't yet seen, for example, the first Finnish production of Ring in it's entirety (though I have seen Götz Friedrich one) since Götterdämmerung is in May. But unless the real Götterdämmerung comes before that day in May (although I won't deny that it IS possible) or something completely unexpected happens, I am most likely going to see it. I have even the ticket already. But seeing that Finnish performance of Fanciulla that I never "finished" with is not nearly as likely. I do realize this may sound very bigoted ultra-nationalistic crap, I certainly didn't intend for it to be so. I may just as likely give way to ocd obsession with foreign production as likely as Finnish one. Living with OCD is not always easy.
Apologizing for a wall of text and any typos (I wrote this on cell phone). Btw, the similarity of the words "Finnish" and "finish" which greatly featured in my two points were completely accidental. :) thanks for the advice though. I actually several years ago made a request at Finnish National Opera's home page for return of Fanciulla but so far no luck. Simon Boccanegra is in April though (one of my favorite Verdi Operas) and Finnish production of Götterdämmerung in May though.
P.s. also because I saw a superb production of Gounod's Faust in Savonlinna many summers ago. That was by Kiljunen.
Thought it might be fun to bump this thread now that John is back ;D
Quote from: Brian on May 24, 2024, 08:14:30 AMThought it might be fun to bump this thread now that John is back ;D
Thanks,
@Brian.
Some of my bucket list concerts would be seeing Mahler's 8th, Shostakovich's
Babi Yar and Schoenberg's
Gurre-Lieder. In other words, works that require quite massive forces. What a spectacle it would be!
Bernstein - Mass
Stravinsky - L'Historie du Soldat
Duruflé - Requiem
Boulez - Sur incises
Cage - a concert of several of the number pieces.
Quote from: Mirror Image on May 24, 2024, 08:29:59 PMThanks, @Brian.
Some of my bucket list concerts would be seeing Mahler's 8th, Shostakovich's Babi Yar and Schoenberg's Gurre-Lieder. In other words, works that require quite massive forces. What a spectacle it would be!
We have a performance of that later this year, Andrey Boreyko conducting the LPO in a program also including Schoenberg's
A Survivor from Warsaw, plus Gidon Kremer in Weinberg's
Violin Concerto. 8)
The one piece above all others that I would dearly like to hear in concert but never have is Gavriil Popov's
Septet a.k.a. Chamber Symphony for Seven Instruments.
Quote from: ultralinear on May 25, 2024, 04:36:42 AMWe have a performance of that later this year, Andrey Boreyko conducting the LPO in a program also including Schoenberg's A Survivor from Warsaw, plus Gidon Kremer in Weinberg's Violin Concerto. 8)
Wow! Just...wow!
Quote from: ultralinear on May 25, 2024, 04:36:42 AMWe have a performance of that later this year, Andrey Boreyko conducting the LPO in a program also including Schoenberg's A Survivor from Warsaw, plus Gidon Kremer in Weinberg's Violin Concerto. 8)
Yes, that is a "would travel for" caliber concert.
-Bruce
Quote from: Brian on June 27, 2023, 11:02:05 AMWhat pieces of music do you really want to see live before you "kick the bucket"? What pieces are you willing to travel to see?
I think my live bucket list currently looks like...
Berlioz - La Damnation de Faust
[edited to add] Chavez - Sinfonia india
Janacek - the operas
Kabelac - Mystery of Time
Lloyd - Symphony No 5
Martinu - Piano Concerto No 4
[edited to add] Mendelssohn - Octet
Roussel - Bacchus et Ariane (complete)
Widor - Organ Symphony No 5 but they don't rush the toccata
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I've been lucky enough to successfully tick off a number of "bucket list" pieces of music: Janacek's Glagolitic Mass (twice) and Sinfonietta (three times with a fourth canceled by covid), Nielsen's Fourth, the Gothic Symphony, Mahler 3, Sibelius 5, the Alexander Nevsky Cantata, Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra (twice), Dvorak's Te Deum, and Schubert's string quintet.
I assume you saw Gothic when performed by Brabbins? Those performance(s?) that became the Hyperion disc.
Quote from: lordlance on May 25, 2024, 01:12:50 PMI assume you saw Gothic when performed by Brabbins? Those performance(s?) that became the Hyperion disc.
Yes, standing in the front with fellow GMGer Luke!
Quote from: Brian on June 27, 2023, 11:02:05 AMWhat pieces of music do you really want to see live before you "kick the bucket"? What pieces are you willing to travel to see?
I think my live bucket list currently looks like...
Berlioz - La Damnation de Faust
[edited to add] Chavez - Sinfonia india
Janacek - the operas
Kabelac - Mystery of Time
Lloyd - Symphony No 5
Martinu - Piano Concerto No 4
[edited to add] Mendelssohn - Octet
Roussel - Bacchus et Ariane (complete)
Widor - Organ Symphony No 5 but they don't rush the toccata
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I've been lucky enough to successfully tick off a number of "bucket list" pieces of music: Janacek's Glagolitic Mass (twice) and Sinfonietta (three times with a fourth canceled by covid), Nielsen's Fourth, the Gothic Symphony, Mahler 3, Sibelius 5, the Alexander Nevsky Cantata, Lutoslawski's Concerto for Orchestra (twice), Dvorak's Te Deum, and Schubert's string quintet.
I think we both know you are not going to see Lloyd 5 and Chavez Sinfonia India live Brian. :laugh:
Kabelac Mystery of Time was performed by BPO recently. So there's a chance that you see it with Hrusa live.
I am not sure of Roussel's fortunes presently in performances. But everything else on your list seems manageable.