Yes just started. While I don't like men's World Cup, I like Women's World Cup. I'm rooting for Japan, Morocco, and Ireland.
I'll support Germany and Italy.
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on July 24, 2023, 02:00:52 PMI'll support Germany and Italy.
I heard that there is a 16 yo girl in the Italian team.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on July 24, 2023, 02:20:39 PMI heard that there is a 16 yo girl in the Italian team.
Indeed, Giulia Dragoni, she plays as midfielder for Barcelona Atlètic. She must be really good to be part of the Italian National Team at such a young age, I read she is the youngest Italian footballer ever called up.
Out of curiosity, why don't you like men's World Cup, Manabu?
Quote from: Lisztianwagner on July 24, 2023, 02:34:44 PMIndeed, Giulia Dragoni, she plays as midfielder for Barcelona Atlètic. She must be really good to be part of the Italian National Team at such a young age, I read she is the youngest Italian footballer ever called up.
Out of curiosity, why don't you like men's World Cup, Manabu?
First of all, I don't trust FIFA at all. Plus, I'm not thrilled by the racist and parochial behaviors of players and audience in Mens WC. Women's World Cup is not perfect, but the atmosphere is significantly better.
Philippines beat New Zealand.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/24/football/new-zealand-switzerland-norway-womens-world-cup-2023-spt-intl/index.html
Congrats to England for their win today! I caught a tiny bit of it here (rather early). Sorry though to see that one of your star(I believe?) players was taken off the field on a stretcher. :(
PD
Feel sorry for Haiti. Lost by a single goal to England and China despite playing well. Will be rooting for them when they play Denmark.
Quote from: Irons on July 28, 2023, 06:40:31 AMFeel sorry for Haiti. Lost by a single goal to England and China despite playing well. Will be rooting for them when they play Denmark.
0-1 to England is a pretty good result!
Iron, we share many similar interests and preferences, ie. tube amps, mono recordings, etc!
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on July 28, 2023, 02:38:19 PM0-1 to England is a pretty good result!
Iron, we share many similar interests and preferences, ie. tube amps, mono recordings, etc!
Blues too by any chance? ;)
What I should have added both goals scored against Haiti were penalties. Also they were denied a cast-iron one against Denmark.
Catching a bit of Sweden vs. Italy. Amazing how Sweden was running away with it in the first half and now 4-0. :o
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Quote from: Irons on July 29, 2023, 12:18:51 AMBlues too by any chance? ;)
What I should have added both goals scored against Haiti were penalties. Also they were denied a cast-iron one against Denmark.
Yes, I like Son House, Otis Rush, early Albert King, etc.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on July 29, 2023, 01:14:00 PMYes, I like Son House, Otis Rush, early Albert King, etc.
Albert King's "Born Under A Bad Sign" a classic. Chicago Blues are great also hardcore country from artists like Sleepy John Estes.
Blimey, Japan smashed it!
Quote from: Irons on July 31, 2023, 07:07:35 AMBlimey, Japan smashed it!
Just read the score...wow! :o
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O.k., a question for you all (from your mostly-not-following-footie-friend....moi), so, I'm currently looking at ESPN's website and the section on the women's world cup football and looking at the results. Trying to make sense of the numbers. Looking at Group E and trying to figure out some things. I figured out what the various abbreviations mean, but am confused by a couple of things like GD (which I get means "goal difference" and shows/indicates how well the teams were playing in terms of being aggressive and scoring goals and also in terms of how well they played defensively--as in defending their own goal, etc.). But how are the "P" as in points determined? Both the US and Netherlands currently have 4 points, so what does this mean? And how do they come up with this number?
Confused here,
PD
p.s. And how is it determined as to who advances?
p.p.s. Here's a link to what I'm looking at: https://www.espn.com/soccer/standings/_/league/FIFA.WWC/sort/pointsfor/dir/desc
PD,
GP: Games played
It is 3 pts for a Win (W), 1 pt for a draw (D), 0 pt for a loss (L).
Goal Difference is F minus A i.e. goals scored minus goals conceded.
Only the top two teams of each group after 3 games go through to the next stage.
In case of equal points between 2 teams after the pool games, I think it either the overall GD that separates the teams or their result in their specific pool match.
I have found this for group E outcomes :P
With their loss to Portugal on Thursday, Vietnam has been eliminated.
After their draw with the Netherlands, the United States is still in solid position to advance. With a win over Portugal on August 1, the United States would lock up a spot in the knockout round. They can also advance with a draw against Portugal. In terms of winning Group E, the US can do that with a win over Portugal and a loss by the Netherlands, or if both teams win, the US can still win the group based on goal differential. If the US and Portugal play to a draw, the US will only win the group if the Netherlands also lose or draw.
A loss to Portugal coupled with a Netherlands win or draw, and the United States is eliminated. The US can still get in with a loss, provided the Netherlands still lose as well, and the United States wins the tiebreaker.
Netherlands is in a similar situation, but with a slight twist. They advance with a win over Vietnam, regardless of what happens in the US-Portugal match. Should they win as well as Portugal, the Netherlands would win the group. If the Netherlands plays to a draw with Vietnam, they also advance to the knockout round, although they would not be able to win the group in this scenario. Should they draw and the US also draw, the US would have the tiebreaker advantage. Should they draw and Portugal win, then Portugal would win the group.
A loss to Vietnam coupled with a Portugal win would eliminate the Netherlands. They can still advance with a loss, provided the US wins. If Portugal and the US play to a draw, and the Netherlands lose, the Netherlands is likely eliminated as both teams would be sitting on four points, but in that scenario Portugal would have the better tiebreaker (both teams have a goal differential of +1 right now).
For Portugal, they advance with a win over the United States, or a draw and a loss by the Netherlands. A loss to the US would eliminate Portugal, as would a draw and a win or draw from the Netherlands.
Quote from: Irons on July 31, 2023, 07:07:35 AMBlimey, Japan smashed it!
When I switched the TV on this morning, Japan was 3-0 up with only 3 chances on target and only 22% possession. Efficient!!
Quote from: Papy Oli on July 31, 2023, 08:14:29 AMPD,
GP: Games played
It is 3 pts for a Win (W), 1 pt for a draw (D), 0 pt for a loss (L).
Goal Difference is F minus A i.e. goals scored minus goals conceded.
Only the top two teams of each group after 3 games go through to the next stage.
In case of equal points between 2 teams after the pool games, I think it either the overall GD that separates the teams or their result in their specific pool match.
Thanks, Papy. I did get what it meant by goal difference--which makes sense in that you would think that the better teams would be good at both scoring and defending and understood how they came up with the difference.
That is very helpful though to understand how the points are (or were) awarded. Nice to know about the top two going through. I suspect, like you conjectured that in terms of ties that it might go down to how did the tied teams do against each other--which is what I think that you were suggesting?
Another question: How is it determined which group plays the next group in the following rounds?
Full of questions :) ,
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 31, 2023, 08:32:37 AMThat is very helpful though to understand how the points are (or were) awarded. Nice to know about the top two going through. I suspect, like you conjectured that in terms of ties that it might go down to how did the tied teams do against each other--which is what I think that you were suggesting?
Yes. It can vary from tournament to another though, I am not sure in this particular case. Sometime they take first the overall goal difference over the 3 pool games, sometime it is the result of the tied teams when they met in the pool game. If still tied, it can also go down to number of red card received and number of yellow cards.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on July 31, 2023, 08:32:37 AMAnother question: How is it determined which group plays the next group in the following rounds?
That was determined at the setup of the tournament and initial group draw.
See that page for the Round of 16 stage, which is next when all the group games have been played.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup_knockout_stage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_FIFA_Women%27s_World_Cup_knockout_stage)
Quote from: Irons on July 31, 2023, 07:07:35 AMBlimey, Japan smashed it!
I had thought that they wouldn't want to beat Spain in order to finish 2nd in the group and fight with Switzerland rather than Norway. I was wrong. I still have a mixed feeling about this. I hope they won't regret this triumph.
P.s. Japan only had 22% possession. Its like Escher's paintings!
Watching England dismantle China today one player stood out, Lauran James younger sister of Chelsea fullback Reece James. This girl has an eye for goal! Only denied a hat trick by an offside decision.
Quote from: Irons on August 01, 2023, 06:32:38 AMWatching England dismantle China today one player stood out, Lauran James younger sister of Chelsea fullback Reece James. This girl has an eye for goal! Only denied a hat trick by an offside decision.
England looked solid. I also liked Japan in the game against Spain.
Quote from: Irons on August 01, 2023, 06:32:38 AMWatching England dismantle China today one player stood out, Lauran James younger sister of Chelsea fullback Reece James. This girl has an eye for goal! Only denied a hat trick by an offside decision.
England is a strong team!
Quote from: AnotherSpin on August 01, 2023, 07:47:56 AMEngland looked solid. I also liked Japan in the game against Spain.
England v Japan will be fascinating if it happens. Japan are a dangerous counter-attacking side.
Quote from: Irons on August 01, 2023, 11:30:27 PMEngland v Japan will be fascinating if it happens. Japan are a dangerous counter-attacking side.
These Japanese girls looked so tiny and cautious compared to the Spanish girls, their counterattacks so delicate, but the shots on goal super-efficient like dagger stabs.
Quote from: Irons on August 01, 2023, 11:30:27 PMEngland v Japan will be fascinating if it happens. Japan are a dangerous counter-attacking side.
The British girls destroyed Japanese girls with 4-0 in the friendly last year. Scary girls!
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 02, 2023, 01:48:49 PMThe British girls destroyed Japanese girls with 4-0 in the friendly last year. Scary girls!
A moving last post.
Morocco beats Colombia and advances to knockout. Sadly Germany is out.
I am rather glad we don't have to play Germany in the next round 8)
So, what do the women do during what looks to be a week's break? Mostly rest and light training?
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German girls are in shock.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66397169
Women's World Cup Power Rankings: 1. Japan 2. England 3. Sweden 4. USA.
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/womens-world-cup-power-rankings-japan-surge-to-top-struggling-uswnt-drop-to-fourth-ahead-of-knockout-stage/
Oh, that was a painful loss today. Ball was apparently in by a hair, but that's all that was needed. :(
Congrats to Sweden though! And, wow, your goal keeper did an amazing job today! You should be proud!
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 06, 2023, 06:53:28 AMOh, that was a painful loss today. Ball was apparently in by a hair, but that's all that was needed. :(
Congrats to Sweden though! And, wow, your goal keeper did an amazing job today! You should be proud!
PD
Amazing display by the Swedish keeper.
Good to see Sam Kerr back on the park.
Donald Trump gloats about USA's Women's World Cup elimination.
"Many of our players were openly hostile to America — no other country behaved in such a manner, or even close," "WOKE EQUALS FAILURE. Nice shot, Megan, the U.S. is going to Hell!!! MAGA."
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/07/trump-uswnt-world-cup-loss-rapinoe
England were forced to play more than half an hour with 10 players after Lauren James' dismissal.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66427469
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 07, 2023, 03:24:20 PMEngland were forced to play more than half an hour with 10 players after Lauren James' dismissal.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66427469
I was expecting better performance from England team in this match. Nigeria looked better and had more moments. I hope England will be more collected in a next game.
Quote from: AnotherSpin on August 07, 2023, 10:11:33 PMI was expecting better performance from England team in this match. Nigeria looked better and had more moments. I hope England will be more collected in a next game.
Totally agree - England were very lucky to win and Nigeria were the better team. Lauren James went 'from hero to zero' and was quite rightly sent off. All credit, however, to Chloe Kelly for scoring that crucial last penalty.
I like her dramatic run-up!
Sweet that she went over to console the Nigerian goalkeeper afterwards.
See 'Winning Penalty' (below)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66420237
Quote from: vandermolen on August 07, 2023, 11:07:30 PMTotally agree - England were very lucky to win and Nigeria were the better team. Lauren James went 'from hero to zero' and was quite rightly sent off. All credit, however, to Chloe Kelly for scoring that crucial last penalty.
I like her dramatic run-up!
Sweet that she went over to console the Nigerian goalkeeper afterwards.
See 'Winning Penalty' (below)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66420237
Yes, the moment with Nigerian goalkeeper was great!
Quote from: vandermolen on August 07, 2023, 11:07:30 PMTotally agree - England were very lucky to win and Nigeria were the better team. Lauren James went 'from hero to zero' and was quite rightly sent off. All credit, however, to Chloe Kelly for scoring that crucial last penalty.
I like her dramatic run-up!
Sweet that she went over to console the Nigerian goalkeeper afterwards.
See 'Winning Penalty' (below)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66420237
Yes, I liked that run-up too. The way she took a leap before commencing the run. Never seen that in the men's game.
A lot goes on during a game which can only explain the despicable behaviour of Lauren James. Her World Cup should be and I think will be over.
Quote from: Irons on August 08, 2023, 12:44:45 AMYes, I liked that run-up too. The way she took a leap before commencing the run. Never seen that in the men's game.
A lot goes on during a game which can only explain the despicable behaviour of Lauren James. Her World Cup should be and I think will be over.
Yes, I like that characteristic leap before commencing her run. I must try it out in the garden :o
PS Agree with you about James. What was she thinking?
Quote from: vandermolen on August 08, 2023, 02:31:16 AMYes, I like that characteristic leap before commencing her run. I must try it out in the garden :o
PS Agree with you about James. What was she thinking?
;D
The only thing I can think of is the Nigerian girl maybe goading James either or both verbally and physically during the game. If that the plan then it worked.
Is she suspended for one game or two games?
Asking for a gallic friend ;D
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 08, 2023, 08:37:28 AMIs she suspended for one game or two games?
Asking for a gallic friend ;D
It's in the adjudication process of FIFA now.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 08, 2023, 09:23:33 AMIt's in the adjudication process of FIFA now.
It was a REALLY bad stamping, wasn't it ! :P :D
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 08, 2023, 08:37:28 AMIs she suspended for one game or two games?
Asking for a gallic friend ;D
Possibly up to three games, which would mean missing the rest of the competition if England advance. I was wondering if England gets knocked out is James still prohibited from playing for any two more international matches if the ban is extended beyond one game. I see that she has now apologised to the Nigerian player who, all credit to her, has forgiven her.
Lauren James: England forward given two-game Women's World Cup ban after red card
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-66455220
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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 10, 2023, 06:22:10 AMLauren James: England forward given two-game Women's World Cup ban after red card
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oh diddums :P
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 10, 2023, 06:22:10 AMLauren James: England forward given two-game Women's World Cup ban after red card
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-66455220
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Count herself fortunate.
Quote from: Irons on August 10, 2023, 07:37:13 AMCount herself fortunate.
I suspect so too (from a mostly non-follower of football).
So, if England survives and gets into the final (from what I understand), she will be able then to play. When are they playing next?
PD
Edit: It looks like Saturday--early for me my time me thinks.
Article about the "unexpected" top scorer Miyazawa, Japan. Miyazawa is a good college student, and her brother has been an inspiration to her and he continues to be her mentor. Her lack of ego/aggressiveness is her strength.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/10/hinata-miyazawa-womens-world-cup-japan
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 10, 2023, 07:53:47 AMArticle about the "unexpected" top scorer Miyazawa, Japan. Miyazawa is a good college student, and her brother has been an inspiration to her and he continues to be her mentor. Her lack of ego/aggressiveness is her strength.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/10/hinata-miyazawa-womens-world-cup-japan
Nice article! Impressive that she hung in there and got a degree whilst still playing football!
I see that Japan will be playing Sweden on Friday; would like to watch that match, but boy is it early for me! :(
PD
Tight first half between the Matildas and Les Bleues. France had a good control of the game but had to weather an Aussie storm for the last 10 minutes of the half ???
Great game.
scrap that.
Fantastic game.
Not necessarily the result we wanted ;D
Nothing in it.
just maybe a tinge of home refereeing in it >:D
Quote from: Papy Oli on August 12, 2023, 02:09:18 AMGreat game.
scrap that.
Fantastic game.
Not necessarily the result we wanted ;D
Nothing in it.
just maybe a tinge of home refereeing in it >:D
I caught the very last bit of it (towards the end of the penalty kicks). Sorry Papy! I am rather happy for Australia though since they are hosting it.
Currently watching England vs. Columbia (Columbia scored a few minutes ago). Seems like some rather rough playing/blocking going on.
PD
Edit: Tied now--one all at the break!
On another note, the USWNT were seen as rather arrogant even before the football began. A number of players from other countries made comments about this after they were eliminated saying how glad they were to see them go.
On another note, our PM is going to declare a national holiday (a one off) if Australia win the World Cup. How about a six figure bonus instead? While the likes of Sam Kerr and Hayley Raso get well paid in the professional leagues surely this would be a better way to acknowledge their efforts.
Congrats to both Australia and England today!
Looks to be about 6 a.m. EST next Wednesday. Hope to catch it. :) Out of curiosity, who is favored to win this match?
PD
4 vs 10 according to FIFA world rankings so the Poms are favourites. However, don't write us Aussies off yet. In many sports they are our traditional (and sometimes hated) enemy. Also we just knocked off #5.
If we do beat them it will make a trifecta.
1 we retained the Ashes in cricket on their home turf last week.
2 We beat them in the Netball World Cup final on August 4
3....Roll on Number Three
Quote from: Holden on August 12, 2023, 01:29:38 PM4 vs 10 according to FIFA world rankings so the Poms are favourites. However, don't write us Aussies off yet. In many sports they are our traditional (and sometimes hated) enemy. Also we just knocked off #5.
If we do beat them it will make a trifecta.
1 we retained the Ashes in cricket on their home turf last week.
2 We beat them in the Netball World Cup final on August 4
3....Roll on Number Three
Great post! Not a cricket fan but the Ashes hold a special place in all sporting competition. Dominic Lawson writing his weekly column for the Sunday Times, told how his father Nigel, chancellor during the Thatcher government, last words on his deathbed were how are England doing in the Ashes?
I had to look up what "pom" meant!
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 13, 2023, 05:11:03 AMI had to look up what "pom" meant!
PD
Good old Aussie vernacular which also includes variations such as "pongolian".
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 13, 2023, 05:11:03 AMI had to look up what "pom" meant!
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PD, it is a fact, speaking of experience here, Americans confuse a cockney accent being Australian.
Well, that was exciting! What a way to wake up in the morning. Surprised to hear that it's the first time that England has made it to the finals. Felt for the Australian crowd...good fight by their team.
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 16, 2023, 04:09:36 AMWell, that was exciting! What a way to wake up in the morning. Surprised to hear that it's the first time that England has made it to the finals. Felt for the Australian crowd...good fight by their team.
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The English men made it to the final in 1966 in England (I was there as a tincy boy).
I thought that the Women's team were fantastic today and deserved their success. They play well as a team without the narcissistic individualism which sometimes characterises the men's game. Spain will be a tough challenge. The Australians can be proud of their 'Matildas'.
https://news.sky.com/story/england-v-australia-live-updates-englands-women-face-hostile-crowd-as-co-hosts-stand-in-way-of-first-ever-world-cup-final-12940590
Enjoyed the game enormously. The woman's game has improved beyond recognition in a very short time.
Quote from: Irons on August 16, 2023, 07:00:05 AMEnjoyed the game enormously. The woman's game has improved beyond recognition in a very short time.
One of the things that struck me: I was delighted to see the packed stadium and the support for the women's teams. :)
PD
Quote from: Irons on August 16, 2023, 07:00:05 AMEnjoyed the game enormously. The woman's game has improved beyond recognition in a very short time.
Totally agree Lol.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 16, 2023, 07:03:54 AMOne of the things that struck me: I was delighted to see the packed stadium and the support for the women's teams. :)
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Yes and although the fans were 99.9% rooting for the 'Matildas' there was still a very nice atmosphere - the crowd looked like they were having fun without any of the hostility and hooliganism which sadly characterises some aspects of the men's game in England at least. Australian and England fans were standing together in a mutually respectful way and there was none of the jeering at the National anthems which characterises England supporters at their worst.
No trifecta. We played well but we're beaten by the better side. Good luck Poms against Spain - you'll have my support.
Since I like all the teams, I'm glad about all the results in the quarter and semi finals. Final would be fun regardless which team will win. Very good energy and nice cosmopolitan atmosphere.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 16, 2023, 09:03:29 AMSince I like all the teams, I'm glad about all the results in the quarter and semi finals. Final would be fun regardless which team will win. Very good energy and nice cosmopolitan atmosphere.
Even my wife has got interested now!
Quote from: Holden on August 16, 2023, 07:57:19 AMNo trifecta. We played well but we're beaten by the better side. Good luck Poms against Spain - you'll have my support.
Sorry for you loss Holden (and
@Dungeon Master and
@Madiel and to any other Australians or those who were rooting for the "Matildas" on this forum). They had an amazing run and I'm sure will achieve even better results in the future.
Best,
PD
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 16, 2023, 11:41:20 AMSorry for you loss Holden (and @Dungeon Master and @Madiel and to any other Australians or those who were rooting for the "Matildas" on this forum). They had an amazing run and I'm sure will achieve even better results in the future.
Best,
PD
They have punched above their weight as they were only ranked 10th by FIFA so we can be very proud of their accomplishment. Even more noteworthy is that every single player started in our national Women's A League. Giving players something to aspire to above the levels of local club football has paid off.
Let's hope that ALL the profits are ploughed back into grass roots level girl's/women's football. There is bound to be a big influx of players after our results. Hmmmm I wonder how many teams I'll have to coach next year?
Quote from: Holden on August 16, 2023, 02:57:06 PMThey have punched above their weight as they were only ranked 10th by FIFA so we can be very proud of their accomplishment. Even more noteworthy is that every single player started in our national Women's A League. Giving players something to aspire to above the levels of local club football has paid off.
Let's hope that ALL the profits are ploughed back into grass roots level girl's/women's football. There is bound to be a big influx of players after our results. Hmmmm I wonder how many teams I'll have to coach next year?
The Australian players were fantastic. The entire world saw it !
Having been tagged in this thread...
The tournament has been incredible. Last night is the highest rating TV broadcast in Australia since the current ratings system began in 2001. Of anything, not just sport. The peak audience was 11 million in a country of 26 million, and for various reasons that's a significant UNDERcount.
This is the 3rd women's World Cup I've watched, and the improvement in the standard has been fantastic. Now that the big European clubs take it seriously and there are proper professional leagues, it's every bit as good to watch as the men's edition.
Also I got Spain in the office sweep so I'm still having a good time. ;D
Moves afoot to change the licence rules for this Sunday only allowing pubs to serve customers at 11am (UK kick off time) instead of midday. The TV audience will be huge.
Quote from: Irons on August 17, 2023, 07:32:44 AMMoves afoot to change the licence rules for this Sunday only allowing pubs to serve customers at 11am (UK kick off time) instead of midday. The TV audience will be huge.
Excellent Lol!
I could be blind drunk by 11.30 AM ;D
Any possibility England decide to play without Lauren James?
Very probable, is the feeling here
Quote from: Holden on August 16, 2023, 02:57:06 PMThey have punched above their weight as they were only ranked 10th by FIFA so we can be very proud of their accomplishment. Even more noteworthy is that every single player started in our national Women's A League. Giving players something to aspire to above the levels of local club football has paid off.
Let's hope that ALL the profits are ploughed back into grass roots level girl's/women's football. There is bound to be a big influx of players after our results. Hmmmm I wonder how many teams I'll have to coach next year?
So, you're a coach? If so....cool!
PD
Quote from: vandermolen on August 17, 2023, 07:35:39 AMExcellent Lol!
I could be blind drunk by 11.30 AM ;D
;D
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 17, 2023, 09:09:20 AMAny possibility England decide to play without Lauren James?
Never change a winning team.
The English FA have announced that Sarina Wiegman is in the frame to succeed Southgate as manager of the men's team when his contract comes to an end next year.
Some nervousness at the FA that USA and their coach have parted company after being knocked out of the competition.
Quote from: Irons on August 18, 2023, 12:15:40 AM;D
Never change a winning team.
The English FA have announced that Sarina Wiegman is in the frame to succeed Southgate as manager of the men's team when his contract comes to an end next year.
Some nervousness at the FA that USA and their coach have parted company after being knocked out of the competition.
I'd use Lauren James as a substitute and keep Ella Toone in the team, especially after her spectacular goal v Australia.
Quote from: vandermolen on August 18, 2023, 01:37:50 AMI'd use Lauren James as a substitute and keep Ella Toone in the team, especially after her spectacular goal v Australia.
Agreed. An anecdote of Toone made me smile, Jeffrey. Unlike you and me she is from "up north". Recounting to the dressing room how she was paparazzied outside a bakery in Wigan enjoying a pasty. Sarina Wiegman asked what a pasty was? The whole room dissolved in laughter!
Quote from: Irons on August 18, 2023, 06:59:34 AMAgreed. An anecdote of Toone made me smile, Jeffrey. Unlike you and me she is from "up north". Recounting to the dressing room how she was paparazzied outside a bakery in Wigan enjoying a pasty. Sarina Wiegman asked what a pasty was? The whole room dissolved in laughter!
She's quite a character, famous for wearing false-eyelashes during a match ('without them I think that I look about 12')
The Guardian view on the Women's World Cup: the best so far.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/18/the-guardian-view-on-the-womens-world-cup-the-best-so-far
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 18, 2023, 09:48:50 AMThe Guardian view on the Women's World Cup: the best so far.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/18/the-guardian-view-on-the-womens-world-cup-the-best-so-far
Couldn't agree more about financial parity. What's more, FIFA already has the money! I'll quietly carry on doing my bit as a coach at our local School competition while encouraging all the girls I work with to join a local club to help further improve their skills.
Quote from: Holden on August 18, 2023, 01:41:26 PMCouldn't agree more about financial parity. What's more, FIFA already has the money!
I want Megan Rapinoe to become FIFA president.
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 18, 2023, 09:48:50 AMThe Guardian view on the Women's World Cup: the best so far.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/18/the-guardian-view-on-the-womens-world-cup-the-best-so-far
I do find it slightly amusing that the author is upset the women are as ruthlessly competitive as the men, pining for a supposed time when women played
nicely.
Elite sportspeople play to win. Choosing when and where to commit fouls is literally part of the game.
Quote from: Holden on August 18, 2023, 01:41:26 PMCouldn't agree more about financial parity. What's more, FIFA already has the money! I'll quietly carry on doing my bit as a coach at our local School competition while encouraging all the girls I work with to join a local club to help further improve their skills.
Wow! From that article: " The disparity in Fifa's prize money – £86m for the Women's World Cup against £344m for last year's men's contest in Qatar – remains both huge and indefensible." :o
And wish you well in your coaching. That's really nice of you to do that. :)
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I was surprised to read that no one either in terms of British royalty nor any of the higher ups in British politics will be attending the final. In contrast, the queen of Spain will be there. My understanding is that Prince William is the head of the FA too. He did send a nice recorded message to the Lionesses (with Charlotte by his side). King Charles also issued a statement.
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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 20, 2023, 12:52:19 AMI was surprised to read that no one either in terms of British royalty nor any of the higher ups in British politics will be attending the final. In contrast, the queen of Spain will be there. My understanding is that Prince William is the head of the FA too. He did send a nice recorded message to the Lionesses (with Charlotte by his side). King Charles also issued a statement.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. It's a poor show. He should be there (although I realise that Australia is a long way away - but it's also a long way away from Spain).
PS: COME ON ENGLAND!
Quote from: vandermolen on August 20, 2023, 01:36:15 AMYes, I totally agree with you. It's a poor show. He should be there (although I realise that Australia is a long way away - but it's also a long way away from Spain).
I wonder whether or not these days that it's a case of damned if you do attend (Why are they spending the taxpayers money on this?) and damned if you don't (What, no support for the lionesses!)?
Are you watching from home with your wife, Jeffrey?
Just poured my first cup of morning coffee here.
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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 20, 2023, 01:44:20 AMI wonder whether or not these days that it's a case of damned if you do attend (Why are they spending the taxpayers money on this?) and damned if you don't (What, no support for the lionesses!)?
No, I think most Brits are shocked they're not going (and yet can find time and money for so much else).
Quote from: Luke on August 20, 2023, 02:31:23 AMNo, I think most Brits are shocked they're not going (and yet can find time and money for so much else).
Thanks for the added perspective.
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Great job by La Roja! I was amazed at how good they were in terms of keeping and getting possession of the ball in particular. Certainly, the better of the two teams won today. But a valiant fight by the Lionesses 'til the end.
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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 20, 2023, 12:52:19 AMI was surprised to read that no one either in terms of British royalty nor any of the higher ups in British politics will be attending the final. In contrast, the queen of Spain will be there. My understanding is that Prince William is the head of the FA too. He did send a nice recorded message to the Lionesses (with Charlotte by his side). King Charles also issued a statement.
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The UK foreign secretary was there.
Excellent final. And I've won the office sweep too!
Quote from: Madiel on August 20, 2023, 05:46:57 AMThe UK foreign secretary was there.
Excellent final. And I've won the office sweep too!
Oh, good! And on both accounts. More new CDs on the way? ;)
By the way, I noticed that Billie Jean King was there too...pretty cool! :)
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I don't know what I'll do with my $100 prize, but that idea has some merit...
Spain deserved to win. They were sharper and more incisive than England.
Was a mistake to substitute Russo at half-time.
Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on August 20, 2023, 01:44:20 AMI wonder whether or not these days that it's a case of damned if you do attend (Why are they spending the taxpayers money on this?) and damned if you don't (What, no support for the lionesses!)?
Are you watching from home with your wife, Jeffrey?
Just poured my first cup of morning coffee here.
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I watched at home with my wife occasionally dropping in whilst doing the gardening and jumping up and down during exciting moments in the match (usually whilst standing directly between myself and the TV screen ::))
Quote from: Luke on August 20, 2023, 02:31:23 AMNo, I think most Brits are shocked they're not going (and yet can find time and money for so much else).
I agree.
The Guardian Editorial: The Guardian view on the Lionesses: making a nation proud (again).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/20/the-guardian-view-on-the-lionesses-making-a-nation-proud-again
Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on August 20, 2023, 03:08:31 PMThe Guardian Editorial: The Guardian view on the Lionesses: making a nation proud (again).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/20/the-guardian-view-on-the-lionesses-making-a-nation-proud-again
Very good article Manabu - thanks for posting it.
A whole lot of sponsors, and governments for that matter, need to get off their behinds and recognise that there is a massive appetite for women's sport.
As a work colleague put it, the male football fans will watch it because it's football. The female fans will watch it because it's their game. And a hell of a lot of girls want to play.
Was sorry to hear that the Spanish captain and goal-scorer's father died - but they sensibly kept the news from her until after the match.
Quote from: vandermolen on August 20, 2023, 10:45:08 PMWas sorry to hear that the Spanish captain and goal-scorer's father died - but they sensibly kept the news from her until after the match.
Before hearing that, I had posted on social media asking whether anyone in the world had had a better week than Olga Carmona.
Just think. Only 23 and ends up being the on-field captain (the squad captain wasn't picked for the last few games). Scores the winning goal in a World Cup semifinal. Then scores the only goal in a World Cup final and voted player of the match. The biggest matches of her life are a roaring success.
Only to be told afterwards that her father died in between those 2 matches.
Apparently he'd been unwell for a long time, so his death might not be as colossal shock as if it had been sudden. But still, what a sad situation when she should be on top of the world.
Her mother and brothers had been in New Zealand for some of the earlier matches, then went back to Spain - presumably because of how unwell her father was. And then they came back for the final. So they were there, watching the match unfold. And not telling her what had happened.
Quote from: Madiel on August 21, 2023, 12:20:51 AMBefore hearing that, I had posted on social media asking whether anyone in the world had had a better week than Olga Carmona.
Just think. Only 23 and ends up being the on-field captain (the squad captain wasn't picked for the last few games). Scores the winning goal in a World Cup semifinal. Then scores the only goal in a World Cup final and voted player of the match. The biggest matches of her life are a roaring success.
Only to be told afterwards that her father died in between those 2 matches.
Apparently he'd been unwell for a long time, so his death might not be as colossal shock as if it had been sudden. But still, what a sad situation when she should be on top of the world.
Her mother and brothers had been in New Zealand for some of the earlier matches, then went back to Spain - presumably because of how unwell her father was. And then they came back for the final. So they were there, watching the match unfold. And not telling her what had happened.
That's so sad but am pleased that her mother and brothers were there for her. I didn't realise that the usual captain had been dropped! The apparent dysfuncionality within the squad makes Spain's achievement even greater.
Quote from: vandermolen on August 21, 2023, 01:15:20 AMI didn't realise that the usual captain had been dropped!
Neither did I until the trophy presentation. The captain was the one who picked up the trophy at the end.
BBC: England Lionesses' success will have lasting legacy.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66567147
Poor show:
https://news.sky.com/story/lionesses-return-from-defeat-in-world-cup-and-disappoint-waiting-fans-by-making-private-airport-exit-12944580