i just looked at the Beethoven master works thread, and made me wonder- how many complete sets are there?
I know there are sets for Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, and Bartok, but who else? It seems like there should be one for Brahms as well, but there isn't! Not only that but a long time ago i tried searching to see if all of his works are even recorded and there was still a lot of stuff I couldn't find, mainly lieder.
Quote from: greg on September 06, 2007, 07:34:26 AM
i just looked at the Beethoven master works thread, and made me wonder- how many complete sets are there?
I know there are sets for Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, and Bartok, but who else? It seems like there should be one for Brahms as well, but there isn't! Not only that but a long time ago i tried searching to see if all of his works are even recorded and there was still a lot of stuff I couldn't find, mainly lieder.
It's actually funny that there isn't one for Brahms (if that is the case - I haven't checked), for Brahms's output is considerably smaller and more qualitatively consistent. One can easily live without early Mozart and nobody needs ALL of Bach's cantatas. But Brahms hardly allowed anything to get published that wasn't worth preserving.
Quote from: O Mensch on September 06, 2007, 07:44:57 AM
It's actually funny that there isn't one for Brahms (if that is the case - I haven't checked), for Brahms's output is considerably smaller and more qualitatively consistent. One can easily live without early Mozart and nobody needs ALL of Bach's cantatas. But Brahms hardly allowed anything to get published that wasn't worth preserving.
DG had actually a complete Brahms Edition on 46 discs - divided in 9 thematical volumes.
Especially the three volumes with vocal music (Choral works, Vocal ensembles, Lieder) were highly desireable
It looked like this:
(http://imagenta.zonealta.fr/disques/brahms1)
Q
Oh man, look at all those avs of yours!
I think if you buy this set from Brilliant you are well on your way:
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31V2GNJF7YL._AA240_.jpg)
It may or may not be complete but you get 40 CDs for under $50.
Quote from: greg on September 06, 2007, 07:34:26 AM
i just looked at the Beethoven master works thread, and made me wonder- how many complete sets are there?
I know there are sets for Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, and Bartok, but who else? It seems like there should be one for Brahms as well, but there isn't! Not only that but a long time ago i tried searching to see if all of his works are even recorded and there was still a lot of stuff I couldn't find, mainly lieder.
I'm waiting for a Prokofiev boxset ......
(and Elgar, of course .........)
Quote from: Que on September 06, 2007, 08:22:46 AM
DG had actually a complete Brahms Edition on 46 discs - divided in 9 thematical volumes.
Especially the three volumes with vocal music (Choral works, Vocal ensembles, Lieder) were highly diserable
It looked like this:
(http://imagenta.zonealta.fr/disques/brahms1)
Q
Que, you might have noticed the parenthetical in my post right after the stuff you bolded. BTW, do you know of a listing of the artists on the DG Brahms Edition? This does look very interesting.
Quote from: O Mensch on September 06, 2007, 09:45:20 AM
Que, you might have noticed the parenthetical in my post right after the stuff you bolded.
Yes did, and my reply was by no means intended to "correct" you - but just to inform! :)
QuoteBTW, do you know of a listing of the artists on the DG Brahms Edition? This does look very interesting.
Here is a listing on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Complete-Brahms-Edition/lm/R2RGPJN7YJ5KB4 (http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Complete-Brahms-Edition/lm/R2RGPJN7YJ5KB4)
All very much OOP or very expensive, sorry! :-\
Q
I'm waiting for the Complete Haydn Edition that somebody should release in 2009! ;)
I think there have been some complete Webern on 3 CD sets. Whether it was in an box I don't know.
Quote from: erato on September 06, 2007, 10:11:44 AM
I think there have been some complete Webern on 3 CD sets. Whether it was in an box I don't know.
Do you mean Boulez's
Complete Webern?
(http://muzyka.wysylkowa.pl/o/mu_du/3/108313.JPG)
And a very lovely box it is too 8).
Quote from: Novitiate on September 06, 2007, 10:21:39 AM
Do you mean Boulez's Complete Webern?
(http://muzyka.wysylkowa.pl/o/mu_du/3/108313.JPG)
Yes, I think he did that twice, there's another edition on Sony (though maybe not absolutely complete),
And a very lovely box it is too 8).
Quote from: Que on September 06, 2007, 10:01:45 AM
Yes did, and my reply was by no means intended to "correct" you - but just to inform! :)
Here is a listing on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Complete-Brahms-Edition/lm/R2RGPJN7YJ5KB4 (http://www.amazon.com/Deutsche-Grammophon-Complete-Brahms-Edition/lm/R2RGPJN7YJ5KB4)
All very much OOP or very expensive, sorry! :-\
Q
Thanks. I can still scour ebay and used CD stores. I would really like the vocal stuff and the chamber music. Does anyone know if the LaSalle Quartet's Brahms cycle is still available in any other form? I already have the Barenboim/Norman Brahms Lieder which are very fine. I see that the Sawallisch Liebeslieder Walzer are available separately. I may have to finally get those.
Quote from: erato on September 06, 2007, 10:11:44 AM
I think there have been some complete Webern on 3 CD sets. Whether it was in an box I don't know.
That's still available:
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Webern-Anton-von/dp/B00004R9F0/ref=sr_1_1/103-6049469-2992618?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1189102809&sr=1-1
Though it would seem cheaper to assemble it from individual discs.
Quote from: Que on September 06, 2007, 08:22:46 AM
DG had actually a complete Brahms Edition on 46 discs - divided in 9 thematical volumes.
Especially the three volumes with vocal music (Choral works, Vocal ensembles, Lieder) were highly diserable
It looked like this:
(http://imagenta.zonealta.fr/disques/brahms1)
Q
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 06, 2007, 08:58:42 AM
I think if you buy this set from Brilliant you are well on your way:
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/31V2GNJF7YL._AA240_.jpg)
It may or may not be complete but you get 40 CDs for under $50.
ugggggh you two just made me drool all over my keyboard and now i can barely type :)
Quote from: D Minor on September 06, 2007, 09:37:50 AM
I'm waiting for a Prokofiev boxset ......
me too! Collecting his stuff is not an easy task, though prokofiev.org makes it easier to see what's out there
There's also the BIS Complete Sibelius when that gets done, I suppose.
And complete Varèse. LOL, even I have this one ;).
Complete Chopin x2:
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NY3GK7Z1L._AA240_.jpg)
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VQTiWZ2WL._AA240_.jpg)
(http://www.selections.com/images/products/picture1/BX950.jpg)
This 21-disc box sells for a paltry 35$ here, less than half the price it is advertised for in most places :o.
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on September 08, 2007, 06:29:25 AM
(http://www.selections.com/images/products/picture1/BX950.jpg)
This 21-disc box sells for a paltry 35$ here, less than half the price it is advertised for in most places :o.
Yeah but it's Grieg. Who can stand 21 CDs of Grieg? IT's not Stravinsky or Mahler or Chopin here.
Currently, 5 of the 10 most recently posted threads concern large box sets. ::)
Quote from: Don on September 08, 2007, 09:28:16 AM
Currently, 5 of the 10 most recently posted threads concern large box sets. ::)
Even multiple threads on the same set! Isn't it exciting? ;D
Q ;)
Quote from: Que on September 08, 2007, 09:35:01 AM
Even multiple threads on the same set! Isn't it exciting? ;D
Q ;)
No, but it's certainly interesting in offering a little profile.
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 08, 2007, 09:12:15 AM
Yeah but it's Grieg. Who can stand 21 CDs of Grieg? IT's not Stravinsky or Mahler or Chopin here.
My sentiments exactly. I doubt very much I'd ever hear it all, and most of it only once every blue moon.
The problem with these big boxes is that they tend to stay on the shelves BECAUSE they're too complete. When I scan my shelves I look for
something, not
everything at once...
Here's a Brahms set........
i don't think they had one before, did they?
http://www.amazon.com/BRAHMS-Edition-Complete-Works/dp/B0015XAT0M/ref=pd_sim_m_9
i do see one for a thousand bucks, but that shouldn't count......
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 08, 2007, 09:12:15 AM
Yeah but it's Grieg. Who can stand 21 CDs of Grieg?
*Raises hand.* ;D
Quote from: Sorin Eushayson on September 20, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
*Raises hand.* ;D
When the going gets tough, the tough gets going!
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 08, 2007, 09:12:15 AM
Yeah but it's Grieg. Who can stand 21 CDs of Grieg? IT's not Stravinsky or Mahler or Chopin here.
I doubt I could listen to 21 cds of Grieg. However, that would apply to any and all composers excepting Bach.
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on September 08, 2007, 12:07:30 PM
The problem with these big boxes is that they tend to stay on the shelves BECAUSE they're too complete. When I scan my shelves I look for something, not everything at once...
I have zero interest in complete editions; would involve a great deal of duplication of material I don't want multiple copies of.
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on September 08, 2007, 12:07:30 PM
The problem with these big boxes is that they tend to stay on the shelves BECAUSE they're too complete. When I scan my shelves I look for something, not everything at once...
A very interesting psychological observation
Lilas 8) and one that I can relate to with one notable exception of course: When it comes to
Wagner 0:) I want it all, at once, and I want it now ;D!
marvin
Any word on *complete* Haydn, Handel, or Vivaldi editions? I have heard reports of Haydn and Handel in the works, but when I try to find proof I come up short. :-\
Love my Mozart set Greg. Not all are the best recordings to be had, maybe none of them. But, it is great to have when you see a piece posted here on the board, or read about it in a book and be able to go right to that piece and play it. I am sure I will also get the Beethoven and Haydn sets down the road as well.
Well, at less than a dollar a CD.......... i'll have to get it, too, one day :D
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on September 21, 2008, 04:14:49 PM
Well, at less than a dollar a CD.......... i'll have to get it, too, one day :D
There's
that too.
Quote from: Sorin Eushayson on September 21, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Any word on *complete* Haydn, Handel, or Vivaldi editions? I have heard reports of Haydn and Handel in the works, but when I try to find proof I come up short. :-\
Any complete Haydn set will hinge on whether Decca allows their opera recordings to be licenced or not. I can't see one happening without those being involved. I also heard about Brilliant being interested in a Haydn box, so I presume talks have or will happen.
Quote from: Sorin Eushayson on September 21, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
Any word on *complete* Haydn, Handel, or Vivaldi editions? I have heard reports of Haydn and Handel in the works, but when I try to find proof I come up short. :-\
Use Greg's link for Brahms' edition (above on this page here). Scroll down to section that says, "Customers Who Bought This Item also Bought..." At this section there are arrows pointing left and right. Use the right arrow to scroll sideways. There is a set for Handel there; I don't know if there is a larger set available. Just keep clicking on the right arrow; there are 16 pages there.
Quote from: Anne on September 21, 2008, 05:47:03 PM
Use Greg's link for Brahms' edition (above on this page here). Scroll down to section that says, "Customers Who Bought This Item also Bought..." At this section there are arrows pointing left and right. Use the right arrow to scroll sideways. There is a set for Handel there; I don't know if there is a larger set available. Just keep clicking on the right arrow; there are 16 pages there.
That's for the Masterworks edition. Haydn, Vivaldi, and Handel all have Masterworks editions out, which are different than Complete editions.
Quote from: Lethe on September 21, 2008, 05:01:58 PM
Any complete Haydn set will hinge on whether Decca allows their opera recordings to be licenced or not. I can't see one happening without those being involved. I also heard about Brilliant being interested in a Haydn box, so I presume talks have or will happen.
So the rumours may, indeed, be true... That's quite... well... Brilliant! ;D
Coming next month:
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/pages/product/product.asp?prod=4801333&utm_source=4801333&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=OCTNR08
Quote from: Wendell_E on September 24, 2008, 03:59:43 AM
Coming next month:
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/pages/product/product.asp?prod=4801333&utm_source=4801333&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=OCTNR08
Didn't they already have one for him? I know Corey sold his before......
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on September 24, 2008, 11:53:52 AM
Didn't they already have one for him? I know Corey sold his before......
That was organ works IIRC, 18 CDs.
Edit: ONO my memory fails me, it seems that the 18 CD one had lots of other stuff. It was just way less complete than this one (which I am gonna have to buy due to its cheapness ;_: ).
Ah, I've found the reason why one is 18 discs and one is 32 - the latter contains Saint-François d'Assise ;D
Another "Complete" hits the deck! 8)
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/5029365901321.jpg) (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/1824904?rk=classic&rsk=charts)
(click picture)
Q
w00t!
I might have to get that one, if the performances are worthwhile.
Performer listing (my comments/insertions in bold):
+Historische Aufnahmen: Klavierkonzert Nr. 2 (Rachmaninoff,
Philadelphia Orchestra, Stokowski / 1929 nice! but I have it already);Klavierkonzert Nr. 3
(Horowitz, London SO, Coates / 1930);Klavierkonzert Nr. 1 (Richter, USSR State SO, Agarkov / LA/1969);Klavierkonzert Nr. 2
Richter, Moscow Youth SO, Kondrashin / 1951 what about 4?!)
Earl Wild, Isoumov, Tischenko, Milnes (is that a misspelling of Milne, Hamish?), Lapina, Borusene, Hynninen,
Leiferkus, Howard Shelley, Borodin Trio (from Chandos?), Ivashkin, Lugansky,
Rodriguez, Michael Ponti, Groslot, Garrick Ohlsson, Franke, Thorson, Thurber,
Royal PO, USSR SO, London SO, St. Louis SO, Roshdestvensky,
Slatkin u. v.a.
So it looks like the symphonies and orchestral music are Leonard Slatkin's St. Louis set on VOX, and the concertos might be either Howard Shelley's or Earl Wild's. Any tips on these?
Why hasn't anyone released a complete Ravel?
By the way, Naxos is releasing boxes of Haydn's complete symphonies, piano sonatas, and concertos - plus a new box of the Kodaly Quartet's legendary Haydn string quartet cycle. Cool beans 8)
And Brilliant Classics seems to have released their big box set of Haydn. I accidently stumbled upon it while browsing amazon. :)
Quote from: Brian on November 21, 2008, 10:27:24 AM
By the way, Naxos is releasing boxes of Haydn's complete symphonies, piano sonatas, and concertos - plus a new box of the Kodaly Quartet's legendary Haydn string quartet cycle. Cool beans 8)
Absurd sale alert: these Naxos boxes are on deep discount for the moment from Naxosdirect.com. The piano sonatas on 10 discs are US$40, the string quartets, on 25 CDs, are $80, and the symphonies on 34 CDs are $120. Does anybody know Jando's Haydn performances? Because I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger.
Quote from: Brian on November 21, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Does anybody know Jando's Haydn performances? Because I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger.
I only have Jando's Volume 10 (the one classicstoday.com gave a 10/10 to). It is very enjoyable although I must say the music isn't really to my liking. The only comparison I have is Andre-Hamelin on Hyperion (a 2cd set) and I think Jando more than holds his own against his more expensive fellow artists. Not sure I would fork over $40 for Jando since you can get a 15cd set peformed by Brautigam on an actual fortepiano for under $50 from BIS.
Quote from: Brian on November 21, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Absurd sale alert: these Naxos boxes are on deep discount for the moment from Naxosdirect.com. The piano sonatas on 10 discs are US$40, the string quartets, on 25 CDs, are $80, and the symphonies on 34 CDs are $120. Does anybody know Jando's Haydn performances? Because I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger.
Considering the spate of absurdly low-priced reissues one sees in stores these days, I'd bet Decca will step in with their own 'compleat Haydn' at half the price of the Naxos boxes. Waiting for the price to come down is what fuels deflation and recession. Are we bargain hunters ruining the economy? ::)
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on November 21, 2008, 11:49:48 AM
I only have Jando's Volume 10 (the one classicstoday.com gave a 10/10 to). It is very enjoyable although I must say the music isn't really to my liking. The only comparison I have is Andre-Hamelin on Hyperion (a 2cd set) and I think Jando more than holds his own against his more expensive fellow artists. Not sure I would fork over $40 for Jando since you can get a 15cd set peformed by Brautigam on an actual fortepiano for under $50 from BIS.
Jando does as well with Haydn as he does with Bach - not good enough. Brautigam is much better as is the Brilliant Classics box with different artists on fortepianos. For me, Brendel tops the list.
Quote from: Brian on November 21, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Absurd sale alert: these Naxos boxes are on deep discount for the moment from Naxosdirect.com. The piano sonatas on 10 discs are US$40, the string quartets, on 25 CDs, are $80, and the symphonies on 34 CDs are $120. Does anybody know Jando's Haydn performances? Because I'm really thinking about pulling the trigger.
Schornsheim's set is 20 Euro from JPC (though "deliverable within 3-4 weeks if available from supplier" does sound ominous.)
I became disenchanted with the Schornsheim set as I proceeded through it. It just doesn't seem to 'gel'. I understand this was a period of rapid changes (hence the use of clavichord, harpsichord and fortepiano), but I feel I'm hearing a history of 18th century keyboard playing instead of Haydn. I perefer smaller compendiums such as the Brendel or Hamelin discs. They offer more music, more keyboard, more personality.
Quote from: Corey on November 21, 2008, 09:19:54 AM
Why hasn't anyone released a complete Ravel?
I'm afraid not. There are separate complete sets of his orchestral, piano, violin, etc. works out there, though.
Quote from: Sorin Eushayson on November 21, 2008, 11:34:17 PM
I'm afraid not. There are separate complete sets of his orchestral, piano, violin, etc. works out there, though.
What we need is a Ravel complete Melodies. There used to be one on EMI (3 discs IIRC), but I've never succeeded in getting it, and despite EMIs apparant eagerness to reissue everything and its grandmother, this doesn't seem to be included.
Quote from: Bulldog on November 21, 2008, 08:31:20 PM
Jando does as well with Haydn as he does with Bach - not good enough.
Not to forget his heavy-handed Mozart.
But his Beethoven and his Bartok on the other hand I find rather convincing.
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on November 21, 2008, 09:03:35 PM
I perefer smaller compendiums such as the Brendel or Hamelin discs. They offer more music, more keyboard, more personality.
Coincidentally, I listened yesterday to BBC3 show called Building a Library, it lasts for about an hour and reviewer plays clips from various recordings of some piece comments on them and in the end chooses his favorites. Yesterday it was a Haydn sonata, No.60 I think, wasn't listening very attentively, he compared more than dozen recordings, from Lang Lang, Hamelin, Pletnev, Gould, Brendel to Lazic, Ranki, Brautigam on fp. He ended up choosing Schiff on piano and Bilson on fortepiano as the ones he recommends, with quite a bit of raving about Bilson, it's 2CD set of selected sonatas on Claves.
I liked Pletnev on piano and Ranki on fortepiano, but I'm completely unfamiliar with the music.
Quote from: Drasko on November 22, 2008, 07:46:39 AM
Coincidentally, I listened yesterday to BBC3 show called Building a Library, it lasts for about an hour and reviewer plays clips from various recordings of some piece comments on them and in the end chooses his favorites. Yesterday it was a Haydn sonata, No.60 I think, wasn't listening very attentively, he compared more than dozen recordings, from Lang Lang, Hamelin, Pletnev, Gould, Brendel to Lazic, Ranki, Brautigam on fp. He ended up choosing Schiff on piano and Bilson on fortepiano as the ones he recommends, with quite a bit of raving about Bilson, it's 2CD set of selected sonatas on Claves.
I liked Pletnev on piano and Ranki on fortepiano, but I'm completely unfamiliar with the music.
I figure the Bilson must be This one (http://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Haydn-Keyboard-Sonatas-Fortepiano/dp/B0009W5JDM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1227372681&sr=1-1) although that is a single disk. Anyway, have have always had a high opinion of Bilson (despite never having heard him in Haydn), and I think this is a good candidate for a download. Thanks for pointing it out. :)
BTW, I am very fond of Brautigam's Haydn, at least in the late sonatas, he injects them with plenty of the liveliness that other interpreters seem to miss out on. :)
8)
----------------
Listening to:
Haydn String Quartets Op 71 - Kodaly Quartet - Haydn Quartet in Bb for Strings No 54 Op 71 1 3rd mvmt
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 22, 2008, 07:56:31 AM
I figure the Bilson must be This one (http://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Haydn-Keyboard-Sonatas-Fortepiano/dp/B0009W5JDM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1227372681&sr=1-1) although that is a single disk.
Quite possibly, as I said, wasn't the most attentive listening on my part.
Quote from: premont on November 22, 2008, 07:01:29 AM
Not to forget his heavy-handed Mozart.
But his Beethoven and his Bartok on the other hand I find rather convincing.
I do love Jando's Liszt, but I don't listen to Liszt often enough to have any good reason for my opinion.
Quote from: Drasko on November 22, 2008, 07:46:39 AM
Coincidentally, I listened yesterday to BBC3 show called Building a Library, it lasts for about an hour and reviewer plays clips from various recordings of some piece comments on them and in the end chooses his favorites. Yesterday it was a Haydn sonata, No.60 I think, wasn't listening very attentively, he compared more than dozen recordings, from Lang Lang, Hamelin, Pletnev, Gould, Brendel to Lazic, Ranki, Brautigam on fp. He ended up choosing Schiff on piano and Bilson on fortepiano as the ones he recommends, with quite a bit of raving about Bilson, it's 2CD set of selected sonatas on Claves.
That's amusing about the Schiff preference; I find him to be a Brendel clone in this repertoire.
Quote from: Bulldog on November 22, 2008, 12:21:13 PM
That's amusing about the Schiff preference; I find him to be a Brendel clone in this repertoire.
Reviewer was very fond of Brendel as well, can't remember exactly why he opted for Schiff over him as his final modern piano choice.
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck! :o
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886974207221.jpg) (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/hnum/6725236/rk/classic/rsk/home)
Click picture for link to jpc.
Q
Quote from: Que on January 27, 2009, 04:30:53 AM
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck! :o
The Hanover Band and L'Archibudelli caught my eye in the item description... I wonder which pieces they're performing on the set...
Quote from: Que on January 27, 2009, 04:30:53 AM
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck! :o
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886974207221.jpg) (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/hnum/6725236/rk/classic/rsk/home)
Click picture for link to jpc.
Q
Nice! :D
I can't even say I like (or dislike) Mendelssohn, but my mouth is already watering.
This is definitely the flavour of the month - everybody (myself included) falls for those Big Boxes. The maths are easy to figure: if 2/3 of the lot is above average, how can you resist something that sells for 1/10 the price of its individual components ?
The Karajan Symphony Edition box is one such example. Individual sets (like the Bruckner symphonies) sell for about 40-100$. The whole 38 disc box sells for 70-80$ - and you get Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky thrown in for good measure. I wish they had gone one step further and included their Sibelius (4-7 plus tone poeams and Mahler as well (4-6 and 9, plus DLVDE). Maybe there should be another Karajan Symphony Edition made up of the leftovers ! :D. Say, Schubert, Berlioz, Dvorak, Mahler, Shostakowich, Prokofiev, Sibelius, Nielsen, Saint-Saens, Honegger - what else am I missing ?
Quote from: Que on January 27, 2009, 04:30:53 AM
And yet another "COMPLEAT" ;D hits the deck! :o
(http://www.jpc.de/image/w600/front/0/0886974207221.jpg) (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/lang/en/currency/EUR/hnum/6725236/rk/classic/rsk/home)
Click picture for link to jpc.
Q
Very interesting! At first glance I thought it was a repackaging of a similar Mendelssohn boxset issued by Brilliant some time ago. Is there a page where one can see who plays what?
Edit: Found one!
Tracklisting
CD 1-3
Streichersinfonien Nr. 1-12, Sinfoniesatz c-Moll (Streichersinfonie Nr. 13) (Roy Goodman, The Hanover Band)
CD 4-6
Sinfonien Nr. 1-5 (Kurt Masur, Celestina Casapietra, Adele Stolte, Peter Schreier, Rundfunkchor Leipzig, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig)
CD 7
Ouvertüren op. 10, 26, 27, 95, 74 und 101 (Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker) und ,,Athalia" – Kriegsmarsch der Priester (Leonard Bernstein, New York Philharmonic)
CD 8
Violinkonzert op. 64 (Isaac Stern, Eugene Ormandy, The Philadelphia Orchestra) und Violinkonzert d-Moll (Kyoko Takezawa, Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker)
CD 9
Die 2 Konzerte für 2 Klaviere (Gold & Fizdale, Philadelphia Orchestra, Eugene Ormandy)
CD 10
Klavierkonzerte Nr. 1-2 (Murray Perahia, Academy of St. Martin in the Fields, Neville Marriner), ,,Capriccio brillant" op. 22 und ,,Rondo brillant" op. 29 (Andrei Pisarev, Russian Philharmonic Orchestra, Samuel Friedmann)
CD 11
,,Ein Sommernachtstraum" (Bühnenmusik) (Erich Leinsdorf, Boston Symphony Orchestra and Chorus, Arlene Saunders, Helen Vanni, Inga Swenson)
CD 12-13
,,Paulus" op. 36 (Joshard Daus, Bach-Ensemble der EuropaChorAkademie, SWR Symphony Orchestra, Hellen Kwon, Elzbieta Ardam, Hans Peter Blochwitz, Peter Lika)
CD 14-15
,,Elias" op. 70 (Herbert Blomstedt, Gewandhausorchester Leipzig, Gewandhauskammerchor, Gewandhauschor, Christian Gerhaher, Sibylla Rubens, Nathalie Stutzmann, James Taylor uva.)
CD 16
,,Die erste Walpurgisnacht" op. 60 (Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker, Chor der Bamberger Symphoniker, Jadwiga Rappe, Deon van der Walt) und ,,Leise zieht durch mein Gemüth" – 12 Lieder von Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy für hohe Stimme und Orchester in der Bearbeitung von Siegfried Matthus (Claus Peter Flor, Bamberger Symphoniker, Deon van der Walt)
CD 17
,,Wie der Hirsch schreit" – Psalm 42 (Andreas Hantke, Münchner Oratorienchor, RSO Pilsen), Lieder op. 59 Nr. 1-6 (Claus Bantzer, Harvestehuder Kammerchor) und ,,Hear my prayer" (O for the wings of a dove) (Richard Marlow, The Choir of Trinity College, Cambridge)
CD 18
Oktett op. 20 (Ross Pople, London Festival Orchestra Ensemble), Sonate für Klarinette und Klavier Es-Dur (Charles Neidich, Robert Levin), ,,Auf Flügeln des Gesanges", Lied op. 34, Nr. 2 (Jascha Heifetz, Emanuel Bay), Lied ohne Worte op. 19, Nr. 6 und ,,Canzonetta" (aus dem Streichquartett op. 72) (Julian Bream)
CD 19
Streichquintette Nr. 1-2. op. 18 und 87 (L'Archibudelli)
CD 20-22
Sämtliche Streichquartette (Henschel Quartett)
CD 23
Klaviertrios Nr. 1-2, op. 49 und 66 (Isaac Stern, Leonard Rose, Eugene Istomin)
CD 24
Werke für Violoncello und Klavier (Steven Isserlis, Melvyn Tan)
CD 25
Klaviermusik (Murray Perahia und Matthias Kirschnereit)
CD 26
,,Lieder ohne Worte" und andere Klavierstücke (Matthias Kirschnereit, Glenn Gould, Alicia de Larrocha, Rudolf Serkin und Vladimir Horowitz) und Musik für Klavier zu 4 Händen (Tal & Groethuysen)
CD 27-29
Sämtliche Orgelwerke (Stefan Johannes Bleicher)
CD 30
Lieder und Duette (Barbara Bonney, Angelika Kirchschlager und Malcolm Martineau – Paul Armin und Peter Edelmann und Phillip Moll – Judith Raskin und George Schick – Christoph Prégardien und Andreas Staier)
Nota Bene: That Mendelssohn box is NOT "complete"; there would otherwise be 5+ discs of piano music and a flute concerto, among other things. (Or maybe it was a flute, violin and piano concerto. I forget.)
Quote from: Brian on January 28, 2009, 04:43:39 PM
Nota Bene: That Mendelssohn box is NOT "complete"; there would otherwise be 5+ discs of piano music and a flute concerto, among other things. (Or maybe it was a flute, violin and piano concerto. I forget.)
It is not suppose to be complete. The title is "Complete Masterpieces" much like the 60 cd Beethoven "Complete Masterpieces" box from SONY. Obviously the pieces you mentioned are not masterpieces according to SONY.
And yet there are readily available Perahia recordings of Songs Without Words, and a few important solo works (Variations sérieuses, sonata)... ::)
BTW I've mentioned the String symphonies by Goodman some time ago. Excellent recordings (much to my surprise).
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on January 27, 2009, 04:20:48 PM
The Karajan Symphony Edition box is one such example. Individual sets (like the Bruckner symphonies) sell for about 40-100$. The whole 38 disc box sells for 70-80$ - and you get Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Tchaikovsky thrown in for good measure. I wish they had gone one step further and included their Sibelius (4-7 plus tone poeams and Mahler as well (4-6 and 9, plus DLVDE). Maybe there should be another Karajan Symphony Edition made up of the leftovers ! :D. Say, Schubert, Berlioz, Dvorak, Mahler, Shostakowich, Prokofiev, Sibelius, Nielsen, Saint-Saens, Honegger - what else am I missing ?
You are right that the Symphony Edition is far complete - your "alternative edition" sounds much more attractive to me!
Celibidache - The Complete EMI edition
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Bartók: Concerto for Orchestra, Sz.116
Beethoven:
Symphony No. 2 in D major, Op. 36
Symphony No. 4 in B flat major, Op. 60
Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica'
Symphony No. 4 in B flat major, Op. 60
Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67
Symphony No. 6 in F major, Op. 68 'Pastoral'
Leonore Overture No. 3, Op. 72b
Symphony No. 7 in A major, Op. 92
Symphony No. 8 in F major, Op. 93
Symphony No. 9 in D minor, Op. 125 'Choral'
Brahms:
Ein Deutsches Requiem, Op. 45
Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 68
Symphony No. 2 in D major, Op. 73
Symphony No. 3 in F major, Op. 90
Symphony No. 4 in E minor, Op. 98
Variations on a theme by Haydn, Op. 56a 'St Anthony Variations'
Bruckner:
Symphony No. 3 in D minor 'Wagner Symphony'
Symphony No. 4 in Eb Major 'Romantic'
Symphony No. 5 in B flat major
Symphony No. 6 in A major
Symphony No. 7 in E Major
Symphony No. 8 in C minor
Symphony No. 9 in D Minor
including rehearsal footage
Te Deum in C Major
Mass No. 3 in F minor
Debussy
La Mer
Images pour orchestre
Haydn:
Symphony No. 103 in E flat major 'Drum Roll'
Symphony No. 104 in D major 'London'
Symphony No. 92 in G major 'Oxford'
Mozart: Symphony No. 40 in G minor, K550
Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
Ravel: Boléro
Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C major, D944 'The Great'
Schumann:
Symphony No. 2 in C major, Op. 61
Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Op. 97 'Rhenish'
Symphony No. 4 in D minor, Op. 120
Tchaikovsky:
Symphony No. 5 in E minor, Op. 64
Symphony No. 6 in B minor, Op. 74 'Pathétique'
Wagner:
Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg - Overture
Siegfried Idyll
Siegfried's Funeral March from Götterdämmerung
Tannhäuser - Overture
Helen Donath, Doris Soffel, Siegfried Jerusalem, Peter Lika, Arleen Augér, Margaret Price, Thomas Hölle
Münchner Philharmoniker, Sergiu Celibidache
Live recordings made between 1979 and 1996
EMI 33cds 5677322
Now $132.95 at MDT
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//5677322.htm
Mind you, though, George: that is still half (or around 2/3) the total of Celi recordings on EMI.
There's also another box set, despite the "complete" claim. :)
Quote from: Renfield on January 28, 2009, 06:11:53 PM
Mind you, though, George: that is still half (or around 2/3) the total of Celi recordings on EMI. Despite the "complete" claim, there's also another box set. :)
Do you have a link to it?
I wonder why they left them off? ???
Never mind, think I found it:
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BACH: Mass in B minor (2CDs)
Barbara Bonney, Ruxandra Donose-Danila, Cornelia Wulkopf, Peter Schreier, Yaron Windmüller, Anton Scharinger
Bach-Chor des Johannes Gutenberg Universität Mainz
5578442
MOZART: Requiem
Caroline Petrig, Christel Borchers, Peter Straka, Mathias Hölle
Philharmonischer Chor München
5578472
VERDI: Requiem (2CDs)
Elena Filipova, Reinhild Runkel, Peter Dvorsky, Kurt Rydl
Philharmonischer Chor München
5578482
FAURÉ: Requiem
Margaret Price, Alan Titus
Philharmonischer Chor München
STRAVINSKY: Symphony of Psalms
Philharmonischer Chor München
5578512
TCHAIKOVSKY: Symphony No. 4 in F minor (2CDs)
Nutcracker Ballet - Suite
5578522
RIMSKY-KORSAKOV: Scheherazade
5578532
PROKOFIEV: Symphony No. 1 in D, Op. 25 "Classical", Symphony No. 5 in B flat, Op. 100
5578542
SHOSTAKOVICH: Symphony No. 1 in F minor, Op. 10, Symphony No. 9 in E flat, Op. 70
BARBER: Adagio for Strings
5578552
MILHAUD: Concerto for Marimba, Vibraphone and Orchestra, Op. 278
Peter Sadlo
Suite française, Op. 248
ROUSSEL: Petite Suite, Op. 39, Suite in F, Op. 33
5578562
ITALIAN OPERA OVERTURES
ROSSINI: Guillaume Tell; La scala di seta, Semiramide; Le gazza ladra
VERDI: La forza del destino
MOZART: Don Giovanni
5578572
BERLIOZ: Le Carnaval romain, Op. 9
MENDELSSOHN: Midsummer Night's Dream, Op. 21
The Hebrides (Fingal's Cave), Op. 26
SCHUBERT: Rosamunde, D. 797
SMETANA: Vltava (Má Vlást),
STRAUSS, J. II: Die Fledermaus
5578582
BONUS CD NOT AVAILABLE SEPARATELY – ONLY AS PART OF BOX SET
WAGNER: Tristan und Isolde – Prelude to Act 1 and Liebestod
Parsifal – Karfreitagsmusik
WEBER: Oberon - Overture
EMI 15cds 5578612
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//5578612.htm
Yes, that's the one. :)
And a shame, too, as I might've been tempted to buy a big (big) set with everything, but as it is, I can either buy a set with many interesting choral and "peripheral" (for my listening) works but miss out on the Tchaikovsky, the Beethoven and Schumann recordings I don't have, etc....
Or I buy a still-not-cheap box set that duplicates a lot of discs I have, and then have to spend even more for another one. ::)
Psychologically speaking, I am not encouraged, EMI!
I hear ya, Renfield. The 33CD set is a damn good bargain at $132.95. The second one, the 15CD set for $125.76 is not nearly as nice of a bargain. :-\
So, if I understand EMI's concept (if any) correctly, the big 33-disc set comprises volumes 1-3 of their Celibidache edition whereas the other 15-disc set is the separately available volume 4?
Quote from: George on January 28, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
I hear ya, Renfield. The 33CD set is a damn good bargain at $132.95.
Just found out the shipping is $35! This seems high. :-\
Quote from: Wanderer on January 29, 2009, 01:10:49 AM
So, if I understand EMI's concept (if any) correctly, the big 33-disc set comprises volumes 1-3 of their Celibidache edition whereas the other 15-disc set is the separately available volume 4?
Presumably. That, or they figured they might issue more recordings than originally intended, and had already planned the 33-disc box set by that moment.
Quote from: George on January 29, 2009, 04:09:35 PM
Just found out the shipping is $35! This seems high. :-\
Exorbitant shipping is one of the reasons I've never been able to take advantage of an MDT "sale". In the case of box sets the shipping is often higher than the price of the box itself!
(Of course, this only goes for "second category" EU countries and probably also overseas.)
Quote from: Maciek on January 30, 2009, 02:47:53 AM
Exorbitant shipping is one of the reasons I've never been able to take advantage of an MDT "sale". In the case of box sets the shipping is often higher than the price of the box itself!
(Of course, this only goes for "second category" EU countries and probably also overseas.)
I suppose the fact that the CDs are in jewel cases helps to explain the cost. A friend on another forum pointed out that the shipping is just a little over $1 per disc and ordering them separately would cost $3 or more each to ship.
Quote from: Que on November 21, 2008, 06:53:49 AM
Another "Complete" hits the deck! 8)
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(click picture)
Q
I was wondering if anyone had listened to these and had an opinion of them... Thanks!! :)
Quote from: haydnguy on January 30, 2009, 06:09:55 AM
I was wondering if anyone had listened to these and had an opinion of them... Thanks!! :)
I'm sure most of it has been released before, if you know which recordings were used, I can offer my opinions of the stuff I have heard.
Quote from: George on January 30, 2009, 02:53:31 AM
I suppose the fact that the CDs are in jewel cases helps to explain the cost. A friend on another forum pointed out that the shipping is just a little over $1 per disc and ordering them separately would cost $3 or more each to ship.
I don't know about that. Berkshire charges a flat fee and then adds a per disc cost. It's reasonable if the delivery is in the States, but outragous if not. And yet when you receive the shipment, jewel case hinges are broken, centre prongs are all over the place except in the center, etc. In my experience single disc shipments come in better shape than multi disc ones. Why, oh, why ??
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on January 30, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
In my experience single disc shipments come in better shape than multi disc ones. Why, oh, why ??
In mine it entirely depends upon the seller. Some sellers ship in a sturdy box with air padding and some don't.
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on January 30, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
I don't know about that. Berkshire charges a flat fee and then adds a per disc cost. It's reasonable if the delivery is in the States, but outragous if not. And yet when you receive the shipment, jewel case hinges are broken, centre prongs are all over the place except in the center, etc. In my experience single disc shipments come in better shape than multi disc ones. Why, oh, why ??
Why, oh, why, indeed. It's certainly a crap-shoot. ;D
But with Berkshire I've had nothing but good luck. Rigid, well insulated boxes with nary a cracked CD case or broken prong. Knock on wood...
It's the cold. It has to be the cold. It's a well known fact that jewel cases crack and prongs litterally explode when temperature drops precipitously (airbags failed to protect the latest shipment).
But I'm a grown man, I can take it. My heart bleeds, but I brace myself. It's the music that counts (repeated as a mantra).
Preach it, brother. ;D
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 06, 2007, 08:58:42 AM
I think if you buy this set from Brilliant you are well on your way:
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It may or may not be complete but you get 40 CDs for under $50.
But there is also a complete 60 CD Brahms box from Brilliant as well, at least in Germany, for 50 Euros.
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Regards
Martin
I've been watching the Haydn set on Tower records, as it's been considerably cheaper there than any other US site I've found. I pulled the trigger yesterday with the arrival of some birthday money and got it for 141$, less than a dollar a cd. It had crept up a couple dollars the past weeks. Then today I check again just for kicks and it's jumped to 157$. This is still cheaper than other US sites but what would cause these price swings? Now I'm waiting for a good deal on the Brahms set. amazon.de had several of these Brilliant boxes for 50 pounds but they've jumped to 80 in the last week. Missed my chance.
Ryan
Quote from: Lilas Pastia on January 30, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
I don't know about that. Berkshire charges a flat fee and then adds a per disc cost. It's reasonable if the delivery is in the States, but outragous if not. And yet when you receive the shipment, jewel case hinges are broken, centre prongs are all over the place except in the center, etc. In my experience single disc shipments come in better shape than multi disc ones. Why, oh, why ??
I had some recent horrible shipping experience with Amazon, which in the past has always been one of the best. Two out of the three CD's I ordered arrived with a busted CD jewel case ...