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Title: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 10, 2024, 12:29:30 AM
Tom Krause - heroic tenor non plus ultra - came my way and I am completely knocked out by it.

(https://i.discogs.com/6C2J9B3nQKhdzupPjWiE3IeTGv52k201iMc5ztcXit0/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:595/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTY0NDc1/MzUtMTQxOTQ1MDk5/MC0yNzMzLmpwZWc.jpeg)

In case anyone wants to buy the transfer, it's here

https://www.amazon.de/Schubert-Schwanengesang-Tom-Krause/dp/B0000268CC
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: LKB on March 10, 2024, 03:00:18 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on March 10, 2024, 12:29:30 AMTom Krause - heroic tenor non plus ultra - came my way and I am completely knocked out by it.

(https://i.discogs.com/6C2J9B3nQKhdzupPjWiE3IeTGv52k201iMc5ztcXit0/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:595/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTY0NDc1/MzUtMTQxOTQ1MDk5/MC0yNzMzLmpwZWc.jpeg)

In case anyone wants to buy the transfer, it's here

https://www.amazon.de/Schubert-Schwanengesang-Tom-Krause/dp/B0000268CC

Actually, Tom Krause was a bass- baritone:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Krause

I saw him perform in San Francisco, very late in his career. I can easily believe that his Schubert would be worthwhile, thanks for the link.  8)

Here's another lower-voice Schwanengesang:

https://www.amazon.com/Schubert-Schwanengesang-10-favourite-Lieder/dp/B000001HPG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3UCIFNNHEG5RA&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nIHXCe4-mmnvzPte_o2YlHuk2Km5wy5AFo2g8wyM4SjSLZ48McC4MbAWZRjGjYVg2eleTl-JoOPEMzHcBXV45yeGvuBonLpWpoJdUHzoMLCEGh5JBqVKRO7PJdkUsWBCcvRIC6zgP_mpQ2a-fBS2PjtWWzJvdEnls6LFXIVqZBCC-G7ri-mGSM7wzfB2M3-3.Mh56LGMqBVVnptI9gWNKKKcHPImnfC_meierVDjNPKA&dib_tag=se&keywords=Shirley-Quirk+Schubert+CD&qid=1710068228&sprefix=shirley-quirk+schubert+cd%2Caps%2C177&sr=8-1

Geez, long link... anyway, Shirley-Quirk 's Schubert is an acquired taste, but it's a good recording to have.
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: (poco) Sforzando on March 10, 2024, 07:04:30 AM
My absolute favorite was recorded in the 1950s on Westminster mono by the Romanian tenor Petre Munteanu. His control over phrasing and dynamics is exquisite. Fortunately it's been transferred to CD, along with somewhat less satisfactory other work by Schubert and Schumann (a disappointing Dichterliebe).
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 10, 2024, 07:38:06 AM
(https://i.discogs.com/AOWe_8SzKycfQsUkSfCONhroq_lkNbgBFFhAiqF82Ss/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:539/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE1NDQ1/ODM0LTE1OTE2NDQ0/NjYtNDk5My5qcGVn.jpeg)

Lots of speech-song from Thomas Bauer, and Immerseel's fortepiano is quiet. The effect is pretty remarkable I think, haunting. Well worth a listen unless you insist on cantabile!

Thanks to @(poco) Sforzando and @LKB for suggestions.

One thing I have definitely noticed in this little private Schubert festival I've been having is how many singers resort to some sort of sprechgesang - Max von Ergmond is another example. It's like Wotan singing Schubert! Whether it's a result of their singing ability failing or a deliberate choice I don't know, but the results are interesting.
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Jo498 on March 10, 2024, 09:59:04 AM
sorry, got the cycles mixed up again...
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 14, 2024, 01:19:53 AM
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Amazing diction. Florian Boesch can make the words sound like meaningful poetry. Really good judgements about the balance between restraint and expressiveness. He is singing to himself. He creates a beautiful moving vocality, a magic combination of story telling and declamatatory speech song. I like his style a lot.
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 15, 2024, 02:02:42 PM
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Lyrical, colourful, great sensitivity to the poems, nuance, dramatic, authoritative and confident - everything feels natural, easy. Operatic, but that seems a perfectly valid approach in these songs. Not overdone and not underdone - just right, as Goldilocks would have said! This is a top tier Schwanengesang from Håkan Hagegård, he's an irresistible force in these songs . And Emanuel Ax is not bad either!


It is really well recorded - and loud!
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 17, 2024, 01:39:47 AM
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Pensive, melancholy lyrical singing from Goerne, and lots of sensitive fresh ideas from Brendel. Top tier Schwanengesang. This is a recording which brings something new I think, and I think the pervasive brooding desolate sadness and the scrupulous avoidance of melodramatic showmanship really works for the good here. Even in Die  Taubenpost there's a sense of world weariness here I think. Schwanengesang as sequel to Winterreise - we need a Schoene Mullerin which makes it a prequel, which it probably isn't, but let's not let that get in the way!

They have two live recordings of Schubert cycles from Wigmore Hall, this and a Winterreise. Both major contributions I think - this somehow comes across as more spontaneous, less studied, but I could be doing an injustice to their Winterreise.
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 17, 2024, 01:51:24 AM
Quote from: LKB on March 10, 2024, 03:00:18 AMGeez, long link... anyway, Shirley-Quirk 's Schubert is an acquired taste, but it's a good recording to have.

I have it now. JSQ has such a characterful voice. I found an interview where he says that the high point of his career was a Schwanengesang concert with Pears and Britten at Alderburgh, and I could well imagine that their voices work beautifully together.

Have you heard JSQ's Italienisches Liederbuch with Janet Baker? I'm tempted to order it. (Too late. Just took the leap in the dark.)
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: LKB on March 17, 2024, 02:59:15 AM
Quote from: Mandryka on March 17, 2024, 01:51:24 AMI have it now. JSQ has such a characterful voice. I found an interview where he says that the high point of his career was a Schwanengesang concert with Pears and Britten at Alderburgh, and I could well imagine that their voices work beautifully together.

Have you heard JSQ's Italienisches Liederbuch with Janet Baker? I'm tempted to order it. (Too late. Just took the leap in the dark.)

I haven't heard that recording of the Wolf. Indeed, l didn't even know it existed until your post above- thanks for the tip. 😎
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on March 21, 2024, 07:03:39 AM
Quote from: LKB on March 17, 2024, 02:59:15 AMI haven't heard that recording of the Wolf. Indeed, l didn't even know it existed until your post above- thanks for the tip. 😎

Well worth hearing, though it's divisive - a friend of mine thinks it's terrible. But music's like that! I even enjoyed Steuart Bedford's rather polite contribution. If I were there that night at Alderburgh, I would have definitely not have regretted the cost and trouble, on the contrary, I'd have been on my feet shouting bravo at the end.
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on April 22, 2024, 01:28:14 AM
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Stephan Genz has a smooth and seductive voice, a voice of chocolate and purple velvet. I'm tempted to use a word which could be considered pejorative - I think he's a crooner. It's as if there's something self conscious about the way he sings, showy-offy about his lovely timbre and his "deep" reading. Voluptuous.


Still, for all that you can't help but like it!
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on April 23, 2024, 07:48:34 AM
(https://i.discogs.com/JgICBXNKF9owrMHGzPUh0dmesDY-WKcsDiKSUGJ6_fI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTc3OTg1/MjMtMTQ0ODk5ODU4/Mi03NDA3LmpwZWc.jpeg)  (https://i.discogs.com/5H4qqTWIojB_DSW_GvwZeTlQbU9twWvbXrOWCYKlcvA/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE2NjY2/MTYxLTE2MDkxNTY2/NzctNTgxNS5qcGVn.jpeg)

What a pleasant surprise - I like both of Holzmair's Schwanengesang recordings very much. Light barytone, both very nuanced and expressive, the second one (2014) is more "vocal" - the effect is of a suave and velvety vocal timbre and a lyrical style. The second also takes more time due, I would say, to tasteful and expressive suspensions.


Top tier Schwanengesænge.
Title: Re: Landmark performances of Schwanengesang on record
Post by: Mandryka on April 26, 2024, 12:15:08 AM
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Unbelievable and admirable sensitivity and complexity, on both Pappano's and Bostridge's part. They have both assimilated the music and poetry, all their ideas (and there are loads of them) have ripened, matured. Top tortured Brit style Schwanengesang.